How To Beat Tyson

[garymcfall]

- Boxer Should be physically strong, in the sense of being able to be dominant in clinches and being able to push tyson back.

- A good strong jab, combined with intelligent lateral movement will give Mike trouble if employed well.

- Backwards movements should be kept to a minimum, move sideways to avoid attacks

- The boxer must be prepared mentally to lose early rounds, and to weather a storm

- Ability to tie Tyson up when he gets inside is useful

- Boxer should have superb stamina, Tyson has a great chin and will need to be worn down over a period of time

- Chin should be good, and defense should be tight and consistent

- The ability to earn Mikes respect with some power shots is intergral, it may come in handy for making Mike quit mentally

-Counterpunching superbly is important, in order to disrupt mikes rhythm and timing coming forward.

- This may lead to Mike throwing single shots in the later rounds, which is when the boxer should attempt to take control

- Superb body conditioning essential


Right, posters, Edit this (add to it, take away things from it, change it, whatever) so that we have the best gameplan to beat a prime Mike Tyson

[Rumsfeld]

Sounds like you you covered everything. Well-done!

:cheers

[josak]

You forgot probably the most important factor in any fight

- Don't be scared or intimidated.

Though this alone isn't going to save you against a prime Tyson.

[janitor]

You forgott the most important rule of all.

Dont let him do any work ad mid range.

Any efective strategy for beating him will be a variant of this rule one way or another.

[pryorgatti]

That's right

[jonesjrp4p1]

fight him after 1988

[Dempsey1238]

be

185 pounds
5 foot ten
have a reach of 68.
And you can beat Mike Tyson. Also need Godlike stimia and power.

[C. M. Clay II]

be

185 pounds
5 foot ten
have a reach of 68.
And you can beat Mike Tyson. Also need Godlike stimia and power.

:tired

[janitor]

If you want to draw up a strategy to beat a given fighter the first thing you look at is their punching envelope.

There are three distinct zones. The outside, the mid range, and the inside. If you can find one of these zones where he cannot fight well, then you have the bones of a fight plan to beat him.

[Robbi]

this is akin to saying "how to prove the exsistence of god"
it cant be done

It was done, on more than one occassion as well. You fool.

He was only 23 years old and in his prime when Douglas smoked him. Tyson was beatable at his best, just needed the right fighter to prove it thats all.

[ironchamp]

It was done, on more than one occassion as well. You fool.

He was only 23 years old and in his prime when Douglas smoked him. Tyson was beatable at his best, just needed the right fighter to prove it thats all.

Douglas wasnt the right fighter. He was just there at the right time.

[Robbi]

this is akin to saying "how to prove the exsistence of god"
it cant be done

Nuthugger. The vast majority of knowledgeable posters on this forum don't have Tyson as a top 10 ATG heavyweight. He maybe sneaks in at the bottom end of some lists, but thats the best placing people can give him.

He came back to prove nothing of any real significance after Douglas handed him his ass. Probably the best results he achieved were against Ruddock and when he regained the title against Bruno.

Tyson was a freak show throughout the 90's, and his excuses as he continued to dodge Lewis were a joke. After each fight he said "I need another couple of fights". These comments followed after many post fight interviews.

Your man lacked confidence when up against it, and panicked like no other great heavyweight when in trouble. Biting ears, punching after the bell, and trying to break arms in clinches.

[mattress]

It was done, on more than one occassion as well. You fool.

He was only 23 years old and in his prime when Douglas smoked him. Tyson was beatable at his best, just needed the right fighter to prove it thats all.

He was finished at 23. I can't think of any HWs in the last 20 years who would have beat a 21 year old Tyson.

[josak]

He wasn't finished at 23, but he wasn't trainng, he lacked focus, he had a huge ego. It's his fault but the fact is he wasn't at his best post 88' after he fired Rooney. You can spin it any way you want, but that's the truth.

[Robbi]

You fucking cry too much, get a life faggot.

Looks like the truth hurt your feelings. Instead of counter-punching back with an in-depth response, you instead decide to get personal.

[Bill1234]

- Boxer Should be physically strong, in the sense of being able to be dominant in clinches and being able to push tyson back.

- A good strong jab, combined with intelligent lateral movement will give Mike trouble if employed well.

- Backwards movements should be kept to a minimum, move sideways to avoid attacks

- The boxer must be prepared mentally to lose early rounds, and to weather a storm

- Ability to tie Tyson up when he gets inside is useful

- Boxer should have superb stamina, Tyson has a great chin and will need to be worn down over a period of time

- Chin should be good, and defense should be tight and consistent

- The ability to earn Mikes respect with some power shots is intergral, it may come in handy for making Mike quit mentally

-Counterpunching superbly is important, in order to disrupt mikes rhythm and timing coming forward.

- This may lead to Mike throwing single shots in the later rounds, which is when the boxer should attempt to take control

- Superb body conditioning essential


Right, posters, Edit this (add to it, take away things from it, change it, whatever) so that we have the best gameplan to beat a prime Mike Tyson

So pretty much Ali, Holmes, and Lewis had the perfect styles in their primes to beat Mike.

[Robbi]

So pretty much Ali, Holmes, and Lewis had the perfect styles in their primes to beat Mike.

Agreed Bill. It seems the criteria on how to beat a prime Tyson fits Holmes' strengths as a fighter.

[Vanboxingfan]

Holyfield, Foreman and Liston, all have some kind of chance as well, but I agree Ali, Holmes and Lewis would have the best chance.

[RoccoMarciano]

be

185 pounds
5 foot ten
have a reach of 68.
And you can beat Mike Tyson. Also need Godlike stimia and power.

Great post :good

[RoccoMarciano]

:tired

Problems with the truth, or did you just eat something that didn't agree? :lol:

[werety]

A powerful uppercut may not be completely necessary but definitely would be a helpful asset as well.

[JohnThomas1]

Go by the name of Lewis, Holyfield, Foreman or Ali to be certain.

[Holmes' Jab]

Go by the name of Lewis, Holyfield, Foreman or Ali to be certain.

Almost agree. Swap Foreman with Liston and you're there. I'd actually take Tyson to defeat big George prime-for prime (and during the 90's), though I'm sure others will beg to differ.


Tyson vs Lewis at their best is 50/50, in my view. :good

[JohnThomas1]

Almost agree. Swap Foreman with Liston and you're there. I'd actually take Tyson to defeat big George prime-for prime (and during the 90's), though I'm sure others will beg to differ.


Tyson vs Lewis at their best is 50/50, in my view. :good

I very much like Foreman's chances, as did Cus D. He stated no swarmer in history beats Foreman, and again i agree. Foreman's strength and size would enable him to push Tyson out of his fabled mid range when ned be and at other times he'd be easing his huge uppercut into the mix. He also had a fantastic chin. Tyson's aggression goes against him in this one IMO. As for Lewis, i am very confident he'd handle any version of Tyson, with Tyson always being dangerous of course. Lewis had that inner fire, confidence and willingness as witnessed by his seeking out and axing of the two men who happened to stop him. Coming back to beat a fighter that has already stopped you has always been a great measuring stick. Lennox had the self confidence and guts to do it not once, but twice. Tyson was always easily tied up given his status and Lewis' size adds to this woe. Factor in the Lewis jab and thunderous uppercut and things look quite fair for the big Brit.

[Holmes' Jab]

I very much like Foreman's chances, as did Cus D. He stated no swarmer in history beats Foreman, and again i agree. Foreman's strength and size would enable him to push Tyson out of his fabled mid range when ned be and at other times he'd be easing his huge uppercut into the mix. He also had a fantastic chin. Tyson's aggression goes against him in this one IMO. As for Lewis, i am very confident he'd handle any version of Tyson, with Tyson always being dangerous of course. Lewis had that inner fire, confidence and willingness as witnessed by his seeking out and axing of the two men who happened to stop him. Coming back to beat a fighter that has already stopped you has always been a great measuring stick. Lennox had the self confidence and guts to do it not once, but twice. Tyson was always easily tied up given his status and Lewis' size adds to this woe. Factor in the Lewis jab and thunderous uppercut and things look quite fair for the big Brit.


A prime Tyson is the only swarmer I think has good chance at beating Foreman.

I don't think Tyson has to pressurize Foreman on the front foot. If he stays at mid-range, bobbing n' weaving, make Foreman miss lumbering foward with most of his slow looping punches the openings would appear for counterpunching. Tyson was a master counterpuncher and those big fast hooks to the body and head would be a potent weapon here. Tyson wouldn't be hanging 'round on the inside too long just enough to land and move away. I think he'd keep out of trouble, start to gain the upperhand after the mid-rounds and stop a tiring Foreman late on.


Mikey possessed faster combos, faster bobbing and weaving, a better defence, more power in both hands, a better chin and more variety in his shots than Frazier. In addition he had under-rated heart in his 80's pomp.


In a brawl I tend to favour the more complete puncher of the two, especially if that guy has faster hands. Tyson holds the advantage in both these areas. :good

[mattress]

He wasn't finished at 23, but he wasn't trainng, he lacked focus, he had a huge ego.

Looking back on his career and you have to say that his best days were gone at 23 years of age. It doesn't matter if it was down to lack of focus, lack of training or whatever, he was on the slippery slope and he kept sliding.