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the_phoenix
10-23-2007, 04:28 PM
what should i be eating and how much weights should i be lifting without hindering my boxing performance?
at the moment im about 124 pounds but would like to get to about 132 -135..
any tips on nutrition?
Zhaakal
10-23-2007, 04:47 PM
Generally big weights are not good for boxers. Low weight but many reps is good. Eat meat, but don't over eat. Maybe 3 times a week ( meat ), i aint realy an expert on that, i bet someone could give you better advice.
viru§™
10-23-2007, 05:48 PM
Generally big weights are not good for boxers. Low weight but many reps is good.
Why? If the OP wants to gain muscle at least make it functional muscle. 3x10 reps (a basic hypertrophy range) is ok for size, but won't gain much strength, which would obviously be better.
Just curious. Why do you think you need more mass?
To weigh more?
Great answer. Why would you want to weigh more? Just learn how to box, eat well, and see where your body ends up. If you're too weak you will gain muscle, if not you're at a good weight.
Trodai
10-24-2007, 12:38 AM
Chicken, eggs, protein shake, turkey, 1% milk. Best building blocks that I can think of.
If you want to get bigger, there are a few supplements that are out there that I have found to be worth the money.
Creatine
Amino acid
Fish oil
Best advice I could give you.
I gained 5 lbs. of pure muscle within 3 weeks because of those 3 things right there (and working my butt off).
littleguy
10-24-2007, 01:27 AM
Chicken, eggs, protein shake, turkey, 1% milk. Best building blocks that I can think of.
If you want to get bigger, there are a few supplements that are out there that I have found to be worth the money.
Creatine
Amino acid
Fish oil
Best advice I could give you.
I gained 5 lbs. of pure muscle within 3 weeks because of those 3 things right there (and working my butt off).
I'm not saying you didn't get stronger, but most of that 5 pounds was probably water weight from the creatine. No one adds five pounds of muscle in 3 weeks.
And personally I would stay away from creatine. The jury is still out on the long term effect.
cardstars
10-24-2007, 03:31 AM
I'm not saying you didn't get stronger, but most of that 5 pounds was probably water weight from the creatine. No one adds five pounds of muscle in 3 weeks.
And personally I would stay away from creatine. The jury is still out on the long term effect.
True statement but some of the newer creatine out there adds more like 90% muscle mass and 10% water. I was on cell tech hardcore for a month (during this last winter) and gained 10 pounds that month with probably 9 of it being muscle. And no im not kidding, people commented on how much bigger I looked so quickly and it really showed on the weights in the gym. Trust me it wasn't water weight. I also added amino acid and glutamine pills for that month and ate well.....but anyways like you stated in your post the jury is still out on possible effects of that stuff. There was something ridiculous like 75 grams of sugar per serving to spike your insulin levels so that you could absorb all of the creatine,,,,or something along those lines. Spikes like that cannot possibly be without some sort of side effects (if used enough of course). I'm no expert, but just my 2 cents.
viru§™
10-24-2007, 07:23 AM
The human body cannot produce 10lbs of pure muscle per month, that's 120lbs per year. If that were true bodybuilders wouldn't need steroids. From what I've read with a good diet, good genetics and weight routine the average guy can gain .25-.75lbs of dry muscle tissue per week. That's 1-4lbs per month, 12-26lbs in a year.
knockout
10-24-2007, 11:02 AM
what should i be eating and how much weights should i be lifting without hindering my boxing performance?
at the moment im about 124 pounds but would like to get to about 132 -135..
any tips on nutrition?Lift a little heaver eat or drink alot of protein.
You dont need more mass, like RDJ says just train and you body will fall where its supposed to be.
Strength is not derived from muscle mass, it come from how quickly your central nervous system fires.
Actually overtraing maximal strength will NOT help your punching power
All it will do is get you in the wrong weight class with people who actually punch hard.
knockout
10-25-2007, 10:57 AM
All it will do is get you in the wrong weight class with people who actually punch hard.Yeah like Ricky Hatton.:yep
Yeah like Ricky Hatton.:yep
I think you're confusing "more strength" with "more mass".
Relentless
10-25-2007, 11:04 AM
Yeah like Ricky Hatton.:yep
ricky hatton isn't putting on mass.
knockout
10-25-2007, 11:22 AM
ricky hatton isn't putting on mass.sure he is he needs to make 147 right? or will he gain it in fat?
sure he is he needs to make 147 right? or will he gain it in fat?
Neither, he just won't drain as much as he normally does.
Relentless
10-25-2007, 11:25 AM
he said he will come in at around 143
knockout
10-25-2007, 11:36 AM
:think ic i guess hes gonna take it easy on the weights.
cardstars
10-25-2007, 07:03 PM
The human body cannot produce 10lbs of pure muscle per month, that's 120lbs per year. If that were true bodybuilders wouldn't need steroids. From what I've read with a good diet, good genetics and weight routine the average guy can gain .25-.75lbs of dry muscle tissue per week. That's 1-4lbs per month, 12-26lbs in a year.
I'm not trying to start an argument but it also depends on the person. Everyone is different; genetics come into play as well as millions of other factors. You can't categorize everyone. Plus the first gains are the easiest
I'm not trying to start an argument but it also depends on the person. Everyone is different; genetics come into play as well as millions of other factors. You can't categorize everyone. Plus the first gains are the easiest
I'm pretty sure we can generalize on this one. A pound of muscle every three days is not possible.
cardstars
10-25-2007, 10:15 PM
I'm pretty sure we can generalize on this one. A pound of muscle every three days is not possible.
Even on roids? LOL
Mr.SelfDestruct
11-02-2007, 03:31 PM
im in the same situation. im 21 5'8" and i weigh 125 and ive been trying to gain weight for a while now(about 4 years). high calorie, high protein, weight gainer(i actually lost weight while taking GNC Gold Weightgainer 2200 or whatever the number is)....ive listened to many....many peoples advice on how to gain weight, but the fact is, my metabolism cuts right through whatever i eat and if i force myself to eat more, which i have also done, i end up throwing up. ive just decided to start working out harder and just use the body that i got. looking at divisions i would be a pretty big featherweight with a 6ft reach. hell everyone tells me once i turn 25 ill gain an extra 50 lbs anyways lol then maybe ill move up to lightweight
viru§™
11-02-2007, 04:11 PM
im in the same situation. im 21 5'8" and i weigh 125 and ive been trying to gain weight for a while now(about 4 years). high calorie, high protein, weight gainer(i actually lost weight while taking GNC Gold Weightgainer 2200 or whatever the number is)....ive listened to many....many peoples advice on how to gain weight, but the fact is, my metabolism cuts right through whatever i eat and if i force myself to eat more, which i have also done, i end up throwing up. ive just decided to start working out harder and just use the body that i got. looking at divisions i would be a pretty big featherweight with a 6ft reach. hell everyone tells me once i turn 25 ill gain an extra 50 lbs anyways lol then maybe ill move up to lightweight
You can make any excuse you like, if you aren't gaining weight you're not eating enough. It's as simple as calories in vs calories out.
I weigh 165lbs, if I eat more I gain weight, it's the same for everyone.
Sagefrancis
11-03-2007, 08:32 AM
You can make any excuse you like, if you aren't gaining weight you're not eating enough. It's as simple as calories in vs calories out.
I weigh 165lbs, if I eat more I gain weight, it's the same for everyone.
if you read what he's said he already eats as much as he can, of course its calories in and calories out but some people have a very hard tim eating enough food to even maintain their current weight.
Mr.SelfDestruct
11-04-2007, 01:31 PM
i wish i was making up an excuse, then i could just fix that simple problem and gain weight. maybe my blood has helium in it lol
younghypnotiq
11-04-2007, 02:00 PM
The human body cannot produce 10lbs of pure muscle per month, that's 120lbs per year. If that were true bodybuilders wouldn't need steroids. From what I've read with a good diet, good genetics and weight routine the average guy can gain .25-.75lbs of dry muscle tissue per week. That's 1-4lbs per month, 12-26lbs in a year.
not true. when you first start training its posible to gain 10 lbs of muscle. if you went from like eating terrible food not frequenlty to eating a lot of healthy food nd lifting hard etc etc.
viru§™
11-04-2007, 02:27 PM
not true. when you first start training its posible to gain 10 lbs of muscle. if you went from like eating terrible food not frequenlty to eating a lot of healthy food nd lifting hard etc etc.
That's different, I'm talking about consistent gains per month, not newbie gains.
younghypnotiq
11-04-2007, 03:13 PM
oo sorry. i didnt no
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