Props to the new heavy weight hope Solis

[Odo]

Solis ' outstandingly amazing performance against a teak tough opponent on yesterday's undercard of Sam vs McCall deserves admiration and respect.
In his second outing to a pro box ring he stopped an opponent who had never been stopped before and whose chin can be called quite decent.
Solis' Ukranian foe Mazikin had won every round in his previous fight against Sedrick Fields winning a lopsided point decision against that excellent journeyman from the USA who had defeated Shannon Briggs,and had lost a split decision to yesterday's main fighter McCall-when McCall was in his prime by the way.
Mazikin also had a bloody close fight with very promising and talented fellow Ukranian Taras Bidenko who had made the water very hot for both Valuev and Virchis,two present top heavies.
Mazikin is a good boxer with a vast experience and a long and quite successful amateur career.I for my part thought that Solis would have had too much on his plate with Mazikin.Lets not forget that it was the Cuban#s second pro fight.
Damn! He proved me wrong in a very impressive fashion.Props to Solis!
It was totally crazy matchmaking to match him with such a decent foe in his second pro fight,but he passed the test in a very impressive way.
Solis and Povetkin-two future pro superstars??!!

[Illmatic]

That guy is beasting so far...he should fight Briggs.

[jimmie]

Im not sure this guy even needs the usually 25-30 fights before a title shot. His amatuer career is among the best ever and he actually has top Heavyweights on his win resume already from the amatuers. The dudes walking threw decent fighters in 43 secounds. Who knows maybe we finally got the next big thing and lets just hope he has a chin unlike some next big things we know.

[left hook 75]

Im not sure this guy even needs the usually 25-30 fights before a title shot. His amatuer career is among the best ever and he actually has top Heavyweights on his win resume already from the amatuers. The dudes walking threw decent fighters in 43 secounds. Who knows maybe we finally got the next big thing and lets just hope he has a chin unlike some next big things we know.:yep

[Illmatic]

do you mean that he's good?

i thought povetkin was the next heavyweight hope?

Well, Briggs is terrible and Solis is an incredible prospect...I give Solis a big chance..and Ive never seen him fight

[pipe wrenched]

Never seen Solis but have never heard anything bad from anyone, anywhere about him.

[El Bombasto]

fat bastard

[aliwasthegreatest]

any one video of the fight by chance?

[Shpion]

This guy is awsome. If he contninues with such performances with such tough opposition, he might even overshado Povetkin's achievements. Povetkin and Solis appear on the route to tak control over the HW division in couple of years.

[left hook 75]

The question is,who would you put Solis in with next?

[Brickhaus]

Next - Maybe someone like Kendrick Relaford? Someone who he should be able to beat easily, but who can get him a few pro rounds under his belt. Relaford has a heck of a chin and knows a few tricks, but should still lose most rounds. For someone with a similar profile, if you want a tougher challenge than Relaford, someone like Tank Williams would make a lot of sense - probably shouldn't win, but has a good chin and knows a lot of veteran tricks that Solis is going to encounter on his way up. Fighting someone like Williams still puts him on track to get a title shot in 15 fights or less, if that's how quickly his management wants to push him (and it looks like that's how quickly they are pushing him).

[Amsterdam]

Next - Maybe someone like Kendrick Relaford? Someone who he should be able to beat easily, but who can get him a few pro rounds under his belt. Relaford has a heck of a chin and knows a few tricks, but should still lose most rounds. For someone with a similar profile, if you want a tougher challenge than Relaford, someone like Tank Williams would make a lot of sense - probably shouldn't win, but has a good chin and knows a lot of veteran tricks that Solis is going to encounter on his way up. Fighting someone like Williams still puts him on track to get a title shot in 15 fights or less, if that's how quickly his management wants to push him (and it looks like that's how quickly they are pushing him).

What if he managed to get Releford in a round?:lol:

Hell, Mazikin's chin is comparable to Releford's and Mazikin is a much better fighter. A KO 1 over Releford will mean more to the American fanbase.

[brooklyn1550]

I've heard he's overweight, but other than that, I haven't heard anything bad about him. It should be interesting to see how he and Povetkin's careers progress. Both are stepping it up real fast.

[deram]

Solis is looking promising.

[emanuel_augustus]

You'd think he'd care enough to get himself in some kind of shape. I'm not sold on these Cubans. Everyone thought JL Gonzalez was the second coming too, and look how he turned out.

[Odo]

You'd think he'd care enough to get himself in some kind of shape. I'm not sold on these Cubans. Everyone thought JL Gonzalez was the second coming too, and look how he turned out.

You cant seriously compare Gonzalez with Solis,can you,emanuel.Of course both stem from Cuba,but unlike Gonzalez who played in third division before the turned pro in the USA Solis is an outstanding Cuban amateur top gun.
Solis plays in a totally different league.Gonzalez couldnt hold a candle to him in terms of talent,firepower,and merits at the amateurs.
I am not sold on Solis' coach and his new pro management at all.
It was totally crazy to match him with a such a decent heavy like Mazikin in his second pro fight.
Solis and Povetkin make the heavy weight divsion once more a fairly interesting one.

[achillesthegreat]

Him and Povetkin aren't having any of it. Must come from their roots. They must have literal hunger unlike many of todays guys who claim to come from the projects and all that bullshit. They get a payday and their hearts never in it. Povetkin and Solis are just going nuts. I really want to see them succeed. They got the amateur pedigree and the balls for the pro.

I want to see them spark EVERYONE and in a showdown unify all four belts! They'd probably only have 20 fights between them at that point!!!

[Max Molyneux]

He didn't look overweight as an amateur making normal Heavy and not Super Heavy.

[Mrboogie23]

wow, beating someone like Mazikin in his second pro fight in impressive fashion.


Its fucking beautiful man... it brings a tear to my eye. We have two up and coming prospects that just may be the real deal.


*sigh*

[WestSideBoxer]

first 2 pro fights

Andreas Sidon
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MazikinXvdfGKL60RI

[The Italarican]

It's a good sign that he didn't lay off too long between his first and second fights. My skepticism has been of the weight gain and relative time it took him to get to this first pro fight. He could be great, but he could also just waste his talents like Gomez.

[Darthmage]

he looks in a bit better shape then his first fight. I hope he gradually gets back into the shape he used to be in, maybe not exactly but close at least.

[Shpion]

first 2 pro fights

Andreas Sidon
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MazikinXvdfGKL60RI

Thank you for the video.

Is it me or the KO looked strange as the punch landed on Mazikin's shoulder before touching the side of his head.

[WestSideBoxer]

Thank you for the video.

Is it me or the KO looked strange as the punch landed on Mazikin's shoulder before touching the side of his head.

Yeah it was akward the way it landed.

[seb melmoth]

He doesn't look so fat.

[WestSideBoxer]

But maybe Mazikin was already stunned, and he couldn't keep on fighting.

[Odo]

first 2 pro fights

Andreas Sidon
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MazikinXvdfGKL60RI


Thanks for the video,mate!

[stake501]

Wait for my boy to get in shape

this is a guy who has a winning recod against the great Felix Savon.
and let savon fight for his third olympic gold rather than go himself (sydney)

he is tough as nails....let him fight haye or ibragimov.....the highly rated pros who he beat to the world championships

GO SOLIS

[Shpion]

But maybe Mazikin was already stunned, and he couldn't keep on fighting.

That is what I thought but I cannot find a complete vid of the fight.

[DamonD]

Solis' Ukranian foe Mazikin had won every round in his previous fight against Sedrick Fields winning a lopsided point decision against that excellent journeyman from the USA who had defeated Shannon Briggs,and had lost a split decision to yesterday's main fighter McCall-when McCall was in his prime by the way.
Props to Solis, but I'd call foul on that.

First off, obviously McCall wasn't in his prime. In addition, from the fight reports, the crowd was very surprised at the Split Decision annoucement as it seemed to everyone (apart from one judge) that McCall had won handily. And finally, McCall broke his right hand in about the 2nd or 3rd round and had to mainly box with just his left. I doubt even Sedrick himself would try to claim this as a genuinely close fight.

Not that it matters really for Solis...

[boxeo#1]

You cant seriously compare Gonzalez with Solis,can you,emanuel.Of course both stem from Cuba,but unlike Gonzalez who played in third division before the turned pro in the USA Solis is an outstanding Cuban amateur top gun.
Solis plays in a totally different league.Gonzalez couldnt hold a candle to him in terms of talent,firepower,and merits at the amateurs.
I am not sold on Solis' coach and his new pro management at all.
It was totally crazy to match him with a such a decent heavy like Mazikin in his second pro fight.
Solis and Povetkin make the heavy weight divsion once more a fairly interesting one.

hey! I saw Solis debute in Hamburg, I was sitting ringside. Obvious he is way fatter then he was in the olympics.
I am also not sold at all on his trainer and management as well.

What imo as well affects him, and the other cubans (barthelemy and gamboa), is that they are drowned in gold watches, luxury, etc etc. That might sound stupid, but they come from a pretty poor environment..

[David B]

Solis comes from poverty to wealth.
The big question is can he handle it?
The weight gain so early on in his pro career is a very negative sign.
Another question mark is does he have a chin?
Talented cuban fighters like Jorge Luis Gonzales,Gomez and Hurtado proved to be very good technical fighters but were all knocked out, only Casamayor seems to be the exception.

[Butch Coolidge]

His amatuer exploits indicate he's going to be a top pro. Hopefully he can avoid the distractions that come from having money in a land of plenty. Thus far he is moving at an impressive rate. His team must have a lot of confidence in him.

[Alcaldemb]

He looks more solid than his weight gain would indicate, that said I'd still like him to get back down to around 230, not his amateur weight but only about ten pounds north of it.

Sidon was a good first fight but remember Andreas is 44 and has been KO'd before, and not by huge punchers so put that in perspective. As for the Mazikin KO it just strikes me as odd. Solis did not have leverage on that punch and it clearly glanced off his should before hitting his head, Mazikin may have been legitimately knocked down, but to me it looks like he laid down in that fight.

Odo I am not sure Mazikin is as tough as you say. He did go the full route with Bidenk but Bidenko has power on par with Byrd, not much, and Mazikin also came into that fight weighing 236, he came into this fight weighing 251.5. Solis is a good fighter, and he does have two very good first wins. That said give Sidon's age and chin and given Mazikin's shape and how the punch landed I would caution against overrating him based on these wins.

[WestSideBoxer]

He looks more solid than his weight gain would indicate, that said I'd still like him to get back down to around 230, not his amateur weight but only about ten pounds north of it.

Sidon was a good first fight but remember Andreas is 44 and has been KO'd before, and not by huge punchers so put that in perspective. As for the Mazikin KO it just strikes me as odd. Solis did not have leverage on that punch and it clearly glanced off his should before hitting his head, Mazikin may have been legitimately knocked down, but to me it looks like he laid down in that fight.

Odo I am not sure Mazikin is as tough as you say. He did go the full route with Bidenk but Bidenko has power on par with Byrd, not much, and Mazikin also came into that fight weighing 236, he came into this fight weighing 251.5. Solis is a good fighter, and he does have two very good first wins. That said give Sidon's age and chin and given Mazikin's shape and how the punch landed I would caution against overrating him based on these wins.
We know what he's capable to do, based on his amateur career (one of the all-time best amateurs)

[WestSideBoxer]

Solis comes from poverty to wealth.
The big question is can he handle it?
The weight gain so early on in his pro career is a very negative sign.
Another question mark is does he have a chin?
Talented cuban fighters like Jorge Luis Gonzales,Gomez and Hurtado proved to be very good technical fighters but were all knocked out, only Casamayor seems to be the exception.

He has one of the Best chins right now in the Pro ranks, in his 14 loses in the Amateurs (he had 227 wins), he was never stopped.

In the final of the World Championships, Haye throwed a vicious punch that landed on his chin, he was stunned, but recover really great and quick and later stopped Haye.

[Alcaldemb]

We know what he's capable to do, based on his amateur career (one of the all-time best amateurs)

While a stellar amateur career does hold promise for future professional success one must remember the two games are very different.

[David B]

He has one of the Best chins right now in the Pro ranks, in his 14 loses in the Amateurs (he had 227 wins), he was never stopped.

In the final of the World Championships, Haye throwed a vicious punch that landed on his chin, he was stunned, but recover really great and quick and later stopped Haye.

if you are getting stunned by a cruiserweight imagine what Wladimir could do .Let's wait and see,the jury is out there.It is nice however his level of competition is so high so early,so you got to give him respect for that.

[Shpion]

He has one of the Best chins right now in the Pro ranks, in his 14 loses in the Amateurs (he had 227 wins), he was never stopped.



That's what they said about Vlad, and look what happened.

Lets wait and see, ok.

[WestSideBoxer]

if you are getting stunned by a cruiserweight imagine what Wladimir could do .Let's wait and see,the jury is out there.It is nice however his level of competition is so high so early,so you got to give him respect for that.

Haye packs and increidible punch on his right hand and that uppercut was right on the chin, and he was just stunned like 2 seconds and had an amazing recovery.

Also, he was never stopped in the amateurs, and he faced big punchers in the Heavyweight and in the SuperHeavyweight division.

[WestSideBoxer]

While a stellar amateur career does hold promise for future professional success one must remember the two games are very different.

I know that, just look at Tyrell Biggs.

But if people overrate Povetkin because of his amatuer career, and difficult opponents in the beggining of his Pro career.

Why not, do the same with Odlanier Solis? :huh

[David B]

Haye packs and increidible punch on his right hand and that uppercut was right on the chin, and he was just stunned like 2 seconds and had an amazing recovery.

Also, he was never stopped in the amateurs, and he faced big punchers in the Heavyweight and in the SuperHeavyweight division.

Let's wait and see how he reacts when tagged on the chin and body in the later rounds.fighting 3 or 4 rounds is a different game because in the pros fatigue also plays a role. I'm looking forward to his first 10-rounder.

[Alcaldemb]

I know that, just look at Tyrell Biggs.

But if people overrate Povetkin because of his amatuer career, and difficult opponents in the beggining of his Pro career.

Why not, do the same with Odlanier Solis? :huh

People are really getting on Povetkin's bandwagon because he beat Friday Ahunanya, Richard Bango and David Bostice in convincing fashion. The most converts to Povetkin's cause seem to have comeon after his destruction of Bostice in two rounds, previously to that it took Brock twelve rounds and Krasniqi ten rounds to win a decision versus him.

If Povetkin beats Donald, even more impressively if he stops him, he will be considered easily the number one prospect at heavyweight.

Solis is very good, and Sidon was a good first win and Mazikin a good second but you need more than two fights to be the next great heavyweight.

[Vantage_West]

im actually worried the fans put him in too fast he should fight solid fighters and with the best modern heavywieght amatuer career he should fight 20 more times against really tough opposition.

im really rooting for this guy. jah bless to solis

[Vantage_West]

i know this is wiered but becuase he is fighting in europe and lives and has a visa in germany.....do you think he will fight for the european title?

if so there are loads of decent heavies to fight with out rising to the top too quickly

[Alcaldemb]

im actually worried the fans put him in too fast he should fight solid fighters and with the best modern heavywieght amatuer career he should fight 20 more times against really tough opposition.

im really rooting for this guy. jah bless to solis

This is simply not true as Povetkin has just as many major tournament wins, and more of his tournament wins were at the international level, in less time and less fights than Solis. Also, if you include his kickboxing titles, he has more wins in a comparable period of time, once again at mostly the international level.

[boxeo#1]

Him and Povetkin aren't having any of it. Must come from their roots. They must have literal hunger unlike many of todays guys who claim to come from the projects and all that bullshit. They get a payday and their hearts never in it. Povetkin and Solis are just going nuts. I really want to see them succeed. They got the amateur pedigree and the balls for the pro.

I want to see them spark EVERYONE and in a showdown unify all four belts! They'd probably only have 20 fights between them at that point!!!

I don't agree completely with this. Most of the Cubans are so well schooled that even when their heart or will is not 100% there they can still win (easily) just because they are just like machines.

For example take Yoan Pablo Hernandez. Cuban heavy champ 2005 and lost to a tough makarenko in the olympics. he turned pro in germany, I saw his last fight (among others), he thinks he the man, fighting sloppy, the only way he keeps on wiining is because his whole arsenal of evrything is just monstrous.

Peace!

[WestSideBoxer]

I don't agree completely with this. Most of the Cubans are so well schooled that even when their heart or will is not 100% there they can still win (easily) just because they are just like machines.

For example take Yoan Pablo Hernandez. Cuban heavy champ 2005 and lost to a tough makarenko in the olympics. he turned pro in germany, I saw his last fight (among others), he thinks he the man, fighting sloppy, the only way he keeps on wiining is because his whole arsenal of evrything is just monstrous.

Peace!

Good post!

[Alcaldemb]

I don't agree completely with this. Most of the Cubans are so well schooled that even when their heart or will is not 100% there they can still win (easily) just because they are just like machines.

For example take Yoan Pablo Hernandez. Cuban heavy champ 2005 and lost to a tough makarenko in the olympics. he turned pro in germany, I saw his last fight (among others), he thinks he the man, fighting sloppy, the only way he keeps on wiining is because his whole arsenal of evrything is just monstrous.

Peace!

It is because his last fight was against Avila, who mind you got blown out by Alekseev in one.

Former Olympians should beat journeymen, it is when they step up that this attitude you are talking about lets you down. If you think you are too good but don't put in the work to be in shape or improve as a fighter when you step up you will fall down.

This is why I have grown increasily pessimistic about Cuban fighters. Once they leave Cuba they seem to fall apart.

[boxeo#1]

Once they leave Cuba they seem to fall apart.

yeah too bad huh:-( The main reason is I guess they can't handle the wealth. Especially when things are changing too fast.

Their perfect technique can bring them very far.. but in the end you also need heart and will to stay at the top... I hope Solis can do it.. but unfortunately I doubt it...

Ps: I acually trained in Cuba for 3,5 weeks in case you might want to know anything about something.. maybe I know it:good

[Odo]

This is simply not true as Povetkin has just as many major tournament wins, and more of his tournament wins were at the international level, in less time and less fights than Solis. Also, if you include his kickboxing titles, he has more wins in a comparable period of time, once again at mostly the international level.

You are right,alcademb!
Very difficult to top Povetkin in terms of merits at the amateurs,isnt it!
Solis was a great amateur,too.
And so far he has even been matched tougher than Povetkin at the pros-and Povetkin has been matched bloody toughly.
Both Solis and Povetkin have proven track records at the amateurs,and both seem to be on the way to make a lot of noise at the pros ,too.
Watch out,Wlad! The hungry lions are approaching and on the way to get you!

[Alcaldemb]

yeah too bad huh:-( The main reason is I guess they can't handle the wealth. Especially when things are changing too fast.

Their perfect technique can bring them very far.. but in the end you also need heart and will to stay at the top... I hope Solis can do it.. but unfortunately I doubt it...

Ps: I acually trained in Cuba for 3,5 weeks in case you might want to know anything about something.. maybe I know it:good

I think the problem is that they are used to a very regimented system and many of them, once outside of it, lose that forced discipline. As far as Solis I think he is one of those people that just put on weight. If you look at pictures of him at 200 or 215-220 he had a fat face and neck, a little hard to hide those neck folds. This is why the Cubans kept him busy, they knew if he fought less often he would go up in weight. Look at it like this, Chagaev fought 95 times, Povetkin 132, Solis 241, I think that was clearly done to keep his weight down.

[Sonny in Dallas]

Jimmy is correct. I believe Solis comes to America and feasts on the journeymen in 6-8 more fights and then goes after top 1o talent.