Hatton offers Mayweather 5 million (UK POUNDS - not $) to come to england.

[Theo]

Ricky wants a home comming fight and he has offered mayweather 5 million uk pounds to come to england, whats that? about 12 million bucks?

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/theo

[Smith]

$9,999,999.00 (ish)

[Nawfal]

nah mayweather shouldnt take that

[roly]

nah mayweather shouldnt take that

if it's such an easy fight for mayweather, as every one make out, $10million is fair, apart from dlh what does he usually get?

[Nawfal]

yeah but he could make 10mil in the us

why should he go to the uk

and belive me i am NOT a fan of mayweather

[achillesthegreat]

Let's not be stupid, Ricky can't offer Floyd what DLH can. $10mil is a very nice figure. Let's not forget sponsorship, gate money, tv money etc He could go home with 20mil maybe.

Hatton got paid 2.5 for Castillo but ended up with 10.5!

You don't know if you can handle the crowd until you've handle a British crowd. I think to a degree Tszyu, Lacy and Manfredo failed. Tszyu the least but I think Lacy and Manfredo were affected.

[Nawfal]

how do you know its not 5 mill all in

and how do you know hatton got paid 2.5 and ended up with 10.5

that sounds too much

[David UK]

I posted a thread a couple of days ago saying that Ricky wanted his next fight to be in UK!! Mayweather should come here if he's serious about fighting Hatton. $9million is a massive payday and Mayweather would be getting the larger %

[PowerPuncher]

Its only US$9m, Hatton would take US$20m, theres enough for $15m each but Mayweather sells more PPVs so he should get the bigger share, would Hatton take $10m in Vegas?

Bullshit offer from Hatton

[Nawfal]

mayweather should get more than hatton

60-40 i think

[Danny Ocean]

he made 20million vs oscar why half that for his next fight

he should make around 13million dollars

[Theo]

how is 10 million $ a bullshit offer?

TV rights and ppv are ALWAYS negotiated seperately by both ****** and hobson, so its not all in, its a signing and fighting fee.

[Danny Ocean]

bluff offer he knows like we all do floyd will and shud reject it

[PowerPuncher]

how is 10 million $ a bullshit offer?

TV rights and ppv are ALWAYS negotiated seperately by both ****** and hobson, so its not all in, its a signing and fighting fee.

Because the fights worth $40m gross and Hatton would take $20m and he wants Mayweather to goto Britain for 30%? Mayweather should at least get 60%

[ajc1984]

£5m = $10,011891

[PowerPuncher]

£5m = $10,011891

Actually slightly under $10m according to exchangerate.com

[1-Ton]

This wouldn't be enough to get Floyd to fight in his own backyard. I hope this isn't a serious offer.

[Theo]

Because the fights worth $40m gross and Hatton would take $20m and he wants Mayweather to goto Britain for 30%? Mayweather should at least get 60%

well, i guess we need to see the break down, buti very much think this does not inculed a US ppv split.

/Theo

[Taffyy]

Its only US$9m, Hatton would take US$20m, theres enough for $15m each but Mayweather sells more PPVs so he should get the bigger share, would Hatton take $10m in Vegas?

Bullshit offer from Hatton
If the fights as easy as the loudmouth is saying it is....................Well fuck me its an easy 9mill..............:roll:
Lets see Floyd over here in front of the most vocal & intimidating fans in the world coupled with the fact he's underestimating Hatton big time.........That would have the makings of a very interesting fight indeed.....:hey

[dwilson]

Wow £5mill that must be nearly 100,000,000,000 dollars.

[PowerPuncher]

If the fights as easy as the loudmouth is saying it is....................Well fuck me its an easy 9mill..............:roll:
Lets see Floyd over here in front of the most vocal & intimidating fans in the world coupled with the fact he's underestimating Hatton big time.........That would have the makings of a very interesting fight indeed.....:hey

Because Hatton would make twice that amount which is bullshit

Floyd can make $9m fighting Baldomir again in Vegas, why bother going to England for the same money?

[PowerPuncher]

well, i guess we need to see the break down, buti very much think this does not inculed a US ppv split.

/Theo

It does include the US PPV - where do you think the $9m would come from other than the PPV? He may get bonuses if it sells over 500k, but not much

[Richel Hersisia]

Floyd made 7,5 milion fighting baldomir. and 20 milion fighting floyd.

This fight should be in the states. way more money, it will do big PPV numbers if they market this right ( 24/7 ).

800 k? I think in america floyd could get 20 and hatton 10. that looks fair to me.

In England, if ****** promotes it's probably 10 for floyd and 10 for hatton

[Guru_Too_You]

LOL.

Hatton demanded more than that to fight in the United States.

Bull shit offer.

[Strike]

People seem to be ignoring that there is gate money. If it is a £5million purse for Mayweather but with rights to some of the gate money and PPV money, he will get a lot more.

They could sell out the City of Manchester stadium EASILY and that is a seated capacity of 48,000. Take into account the amount of the pitch area that can house people sat and standing....
We are looking at over 50,000 people.

If he did it at Wembley then it would be 90,000 fans, and it would sell out.

[InHumanForm]

People seem to be ignoring that there is gate money. If it is a £5million purse for Mayweather but with rights to some of the gate money and PPV money, he will get a lot more.

They could sell out the City of Manchester stadium EASILY and that is a seated capacity of 48,000. Take into account the amount of the pitch area that can house people sat and standing....
We are looking at over 50,000 people.

If he did it at Wembley then it would be 90,000 fans, and it would sell out.

that last option sounds like it would be an amazing experience and I for one think floyd should take the offer and make some quick cash seeing as how he thinks he's whooping hatton's ass all around the world.

[ajc1984]

I guess it depends whether that's $10m gauranteed, with PPV and gate %'s on top of that (very good offer) or $10m and no more (not good enough).

Nice to see both camps actually discussing the fight though, makes me think there's at least a chance it will happen.

[McGrain]

The thing is Mayweather will probably win that one on points - does he
fancy coming all this way for a judges decision? Plus, has he seen Minter-Hagler:D

[Smith]

Youre all forgetting its a primary offer for fuck sake! Nobody is going to jump in with say, $15,000,000 straight off, do any of you know how business works! At least there is an offer on the table, things can only get better from there!

[Snorkel]

Hatton isn't De la Hoya and neither is Floyd. Hatton's the draw too. In other words, this fight isn't going to make as much as the De La Hoya fight but the tickets will be sold because of Hatton so something approaching a 50/50 split seems fair.

There's no way any fight for Floyd is going to match his last pay day so he's going to have to accept that $10 million is a good basic deal if PPV and gate receipts are added on top of that. Floyd's got to accept that he's never again going to get De La Hoya kinds of money so has to lower his expectations if he wants fights to be made.

[planetzion]

nah mayweather shouldnt take that


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: here we go why not??? Oh yeah risk vs reward or is it Ive earned 20M with DLH so now 12m is chump change ....if floyd is who he claims to be then fight hatton and show us.....

[FlatNose]

It makes sense that the fight would make the most money in Britan, so thats where it should be.Not wanting to travel is just another excuse to stay safe.Mayweather may just stay in the U.S. and fight the shell of Felix Trinidad, and THAT would be bullshit.

[planetzion]

Fucking A right...I'm American and I'll admit it - I love the British atmosphere......Las vegas=15 thousand IF(Big IF)but the UK an EASY 50+....

I'm sick and tired of hearing about the "Mecca" of boxing - It sure as fuck isn't the mecca of boxing,when you have 9 thousand fans sitting in the Las Vegas arena.

Some people are fucking idiots - "Oh it should be here because,because" - Because nothing...it makes no fucking sense.

I think most just use that as an excuse for their fighter not wanting to fight elsewhere.

Everyone gives Hatton and Calzaghe shit,but Floyd fights in his BACKYARD,like Calzaghe does - But in my opinion Joe is justified in doing so because of his massive fanbase,unlike Floyd....Same thing goes for Hatton.

great post thanks for being objective i just wonder how many of floyds fan have realized they have become fans of a man not fans of the sport anymore....fuck all the bullshit excuses im a fight fan first and formost

[GazOC]

Surely for maximum revenue this fight needs to take place at Wembley at 2am? You'd get (at least) 60,000 fans and the USA PPV numbers would be unaffected?

[UKITAZ]

Fuck Vegass, thsi fights needs to be in the U.K ...Can you imagine this fight at the new Wembley .. it would be electric !!! Over 90,000 fans cheering on the fighters.

[pit]

Ricky wants a home comming fight and he has offered mayweather 5 million uk pounds to come to england, whats that? about 12 million bucks?

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/theo


Nope !!! Las vegas Floyd's in the driver seat I see no reason to give that up that advantage. Zoo made the mistake of fighting rick in manchester , I highly doubt floyd would make the same mistake.

[Pimp C]

If PBF has to go to England he should get atleast 15 mil. I say no deal he's worth more than that.

[Pimp C]

LOL.

Hatton demanded more than that to fight in the United States.

Bull shit offer.
Exactly!:lol:

[pit]

Floyd can't fucking sell out my basement.

floyd in know well enough in the US that he can sell out PPV as long as he keep up the bad boy persona ... he fan will pay and anti floyd fans will pay to see him get KOed. HBO has a enough power to make the feed to Manchester and make the PPV buys hattons fans would buy it.

besides floyd is in a position to say take or leave it , Im pretty sure Arum is greedy enough to make a fight with Cotto and floyd that would do far better then Floyd Hatton in either the garden or Vagus.. Arum has went on record anyway saying he doesn't think Ricky is the real challenge for floyd which can only mean he will be in Floyd ear if this fight should fall through.

[GazOC]

Guys, there's no way this fight makes the kind of money it can make in the US if it's held in the UK. Get real!

Casino's put up the money, that's where the big money comes from, apart from American TV and PPV. US tickets are more expensive than UK tickets, and UK tickets would need to be cheaper than usual (below £20) to sell 40,000.

Well forget about American TV and PPV money because they are unaffected by an Sunday AM start in the UK. The real question is then, is the casino money/ tickets worth more than the UK tickets?

I don't think you'd need to go below 50 quid with the cheap seats to get very decent numbers in the UK.

[Mohak]

With a non UK or US ref that can speak English I'm for it coming here.

[Taffyy]

Leeroy.............Refreshing to here an american speaking like you do fella......Nice one......
From a "money" point of view then keep all the fat cats happy with shiny happy vegas & all that entails but from a spectacle point of view .....Seriously do you think that ANYWHERE in the US could compare to 90'000 screaming fans on fightnight.............Like bollocks could America compare to that.............Give the fight to the people for fucks sake..........If Floyds genuine fans make the journey then fair play but I gaurentee it would be a genuine "Superfight" atmosphere over here unlike the last "supershite" in the US.........Floyd V DLH...........I've made more noise & a better atmosphere in bed with my missus for fucks sake !!!!!!!!!

[kirk]

why dont they both just be fucking warriors and fight...

god, all this negotiating about money and all this shit... people forget where the hell they come from.

Thats what i love about guys like morales, vargas, miranda, just... warriors of the sport... they would never not have a fight go through that they want to happen due to stupid ass financial reasons...

oooohh booo hoo... mayweather is getting 9 million fucking dollars for a fight instead of 12... so no fight.

i swear...

[Zhaakal]

Floyd should take the fight in Wembley, it would be epic!!!

[Strike]

90,000? That's being abit fucking silly.

40,000 maybe, but the atmosphere won't be what it was for the Tszyu fight because it's a huge, huge stadium and open air, plus it'll be fucking freezing in Nov!
Its not silly mate. 40,000 is a dead cert. The MEN sells out within a couple of days when tickets go on sale for a Hatton fight, that was fighting against guys like Mike Stewart. And there is still huge numbers wanting tickets, 10,000 went to Vegas, trust me 40,000 would be sold EASY.

90,000 would be tougher but it is not impossible by any means. It would depend on pricing for the cheaper seats but it could be done with the right undercard and promotion.

[kirk]

If PBF has to go to England he should get atleast 15 mil. I say no deal he's worth more than that.

get a grip man... its 9 million dollars.

NINE.... MILLION... DOLLARS



Judah when he fought spinks got what... couple hundred thousand?
Spinks got a lil over a million?
vargas when he fought hoya got like... 6 million i think?
hoya got i think 14 million or something like that

just because Mayweather vs Hoya raked in the money, and they got huge ass pay days, doesnt set a bar. again... does NOT set a bar.

and now we have people saying that almost 10 million dollars is not enough so there should be no deal?

the only problem i have... is if ricky gets more then mayweather. that i think should be negotiated... i guess if its IN the uk.. i can see a closer purse split.. but i think the big chunk should go to mayweather, im not going to call him the draw... cuz hes not as big a draw as people think he is.... but he is 'the man' to beat in this fight, he doesnt need this fight, hatton does, add to that hes 1 or 2 p4p in the world... and he imo earns the bigger purse.

so if it was up to me id say

10 mill for mayweather
6 mill for hatton


any people that honestly have a problem with mayweather getting paid 10 MILLION dollars.... for a fight, i dont care who its against or where, are delusional. its 10 million dollars for gods sakes....

[Taffyy]

90,000? That's being abit fucking silly.

40,000 maybe, but the atmosphere won't be what it was for the Tszyu fight because it's a huge, huge stadium and open air, plus it'll be fucking freezing in Nov!
Freezing in November...............Shut up you big tart !!!!.........
Seriously it will be 50+ no problem at all..................If they made 90 000 tickets available they would fucking sell them in my opinion...........As for not being able to match the Tszyu fight for atmosphere........Are you feeling OK....???...................This is the best P4P fighter in the world we are talking about here..........Although I really dislike him Floyd is arguably from a "boxing" prespective a true great..........Now a british fighter having a go at someone with those credentials will fill ANY arena you want to pick in the UK..........
As for the open air...............Shut the roof on the millenium stadium in Cardiff then.............problem solved........still getting 50,000 fans.........NOTHING.....I REPEAT NOTHING in the US can compare to what the UK can offer from a venue point of view.........& by that I mean filling it.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Caper]

floyd in know well enough in the US that he can sell out PPV as long as he keep up the bad boy persona ... he fan will pay and anti floyd fans will pay to see him get KOed. HBO has a enough power to make the feed to Manchester and make the PPV buys hattons fans would buy it.

besides floyd is in a position to say take or leave it , Im pretty sure Arum is greedy enough to make a fight with Cotto and floyd that would do far better then Floyd Hatton in either the garden or Vagus.. Arum has went on record anyway saying he doesn't think Ricky is the real challenge for floyd which can only mean he will be in Floyd ear if this fight should fall through.

Logically speaking that's the way I see it but this is boxing and anything can happen, on paper Hatton gets picked apart like freeing a million caged Koala's on the last eucalyptus tree in Aussy land. But Hatton is the kinda fighter that seems to be determined enough to do it so let it happen.

[GazOC]

But to most Hatton fans and Man City fans, Mayweather means no more than Mike Stewart

Most Hatton fans aren't actually sheer boxing fans
Most are at least general sports fans and would understand that ths is the 'big one', to say Mayweather would sell just like any other opponent is plain silly.

[Caper]

Its not silly mate. 40,000 is a dead cert. The MEN sells out within a couple of days when tickets go on sale for a Hatton fight, that was fighting against guys like Mike Stewart. And there is still huge numbers wanting tickets, 10,000 went to Vegas, trust me 40,000 would be sold EASY.

90,000 would be tougher but it is not impossible by any means. It would depend on pricing for the cheaper seats but it could be done with the right undercard and promotion.

Strike when you coming to NYC?

[Strike]

Strike when you coming to NYC?

Fuck knows mate, I might try and get out early 2008 before I head off to Korea or Japan for a bit. Not totally sure.

[Lampley]

I think this whole thread can be summed up by saying, no one knows shit. Who knows what the details are. If that's a starting point and Floyd is assured that he'll get the larger piece of the American PPV pie (I imagine he'll insist on this), maybe it can work out.

[David UK]

that is alot of $. what floyd made vs oscar is all because of oscar. floyd is never making 20 mil again unless he fights oscar. he should be happy with 10 million. no one cares about floyd. he may be great and p4p, but no one really gives a fuck about him. how many americans would go to england to see floyd? 11,000 or more came overe here to see ricky, and that says alot. like the hatton or not he is exciting to his fans and they are maniacal for him. on the other hand pbf has trouble keeping his fans from booing let alone filling any us venue. just the unbiased facts.

Good post:good

[David UK]

How would the fight make most money in Britain where there's no casinos putting up the money?

The gate receipts would be around £3million.

I think the gate receipts alone could be a high as £5million. Most probably around £4million. That would virtually pay Floyd's purse WITHOUT any tv money!!

[djrock247]

Ditto That!!!

But dont say that to his fans....:smoke

As a fan, I take no offense. Sadly, the statement is true. However, I don't place any blame on Floyd. It's more a paradigm of the sweet science. Floyd rose to fame after the public had already turned it's head. Guys like Oscar, Roy Jones, Trinidad, even Gatti had their names up in lights when the world still gave a shit and therefore carry more clout in a time where most no longer care. It's a shame as there are a handful of fighters right now (Floyd and moreso Pacman & Cotto, among others) that could really put people in the seats. I don't believe that the talent pool is any worse (save the HW division) than it has been in the past but something must be done to garner attention for the sport.

[Darthmage]

Pbf needs Hatton in order to come somewhat remotely close to what he made in the DLH fight. Hatton needs PBF in order to have his biggest payday till this date. They should make the fight...

[Imperial1]

So Hatton is offering less than what Mayweather got for Baldimor ??I guess he really doesn't want to make this fight ..I don't see why Floyd would go to Wembly when its him that Hatton is chasing ..

[Theo]

get a grip man... its 9 million dollars.

NINE.... MILLION... DOLLARS



Judah when he fought spinks got what... couple hundred thousand?
Spinks got a lil over a million?
vargas when he fought hoya got like... 6 million i think?
hoya got i think 14 million or something like that

just because Mayweather vs Hoya raked in the money, and they got huge ass pay days, doesnt set a bar. again... does NOT set a bar.

and now we have people saying that almost 10 million dollars is not enough so there should be no deal?

the only problem i have... is if ricky gets more then mayweather. that i think should be negotiated... i guess if its IN the uk.. i can see a closer purse split.. but i think the big chunk should go to mayweather, im not going to call him the draw... cuz hes not as big a draw as people think he is.... but he is 'the man' to beat in this fight, he doesnt need this fight, hatton does, add to that hes 1 or 2 p4p in the world... and he imo earns the bigger purse.

so if it was up to me id say

10 mill for mayweather
6 mill for hatton


any people that honestly have a problem with mayweather getting paid 10 MILLION dollars.... for a fight, i dont care who its against or where, are delusional. its 10 million dollars for gods sakes....

i sware to god if you ever make it manchester man, pop me a pm.

[Nuke]

I could care less who makes what, I'm a boxing fan and there is nothing like watching UK fans going bananas and chanting and singing and doing all kindas of shit during the fight. Contrast that with Vegas highrollers doing nothing more then yelling for a good punch or something. When I saw that Hatton/ Zoo fight and the way that crowd was, WoW! I was like this is what a crowd should be like. Nothing America can do can compare to that. Fuk for fuks sake American crowds don't even sing the national anthem, we watch somebody else do it, and we all claim to be partriotic? Fuk I think everyfight should be in the UK.

[Stinky gloves]

$9,999,999.00 (ish)

Its cheap for Mayweather, Hatton cannot talk money to him :-(

[Cookie]

I love how everyone turns into market analysts, accountants, boxing promoters, and all sorts of other shit when these rumours pop up. Most people don't have a damn clue what the fight is worth and spouting out pie in the sky statements like "he should get at least blah, blah" is total speculation. Might as well let the situation run it's course.

[bhwbj]

REALITY CHECK: Mayweather made 10 million fighting Carlos Baldomir. There is no way hell Mayweather agrees to fight Hatton for LESS MONEY THEN HE MADE FIGHTING BALDOMIR. The Hattons know this.......... Even if Hatton is finally serious about taking this fight( questionable ), it will be killed at the negotiation table.

[Caper]

Fuck knows mate, I might try and get out early 2008 before I head off to Korea or Japan for a bit. Not totally sure.

I envy you bro, I hardy get out of Jamaica, Queens much less travel to places like Japan of Korea. Well if you do make it PM dog I owe you for the tunes you sent over a while back. Peace

PS: Check out Pharoh Monks new album, I heard its suppossed to be fire.

[GazOC]

REALITY CHECK: Mayweather made 10 million fighting Carlos Baldomir. There is no way hell Mayweather agrees to fight Hatton for LESS MONEY THEN HE MADE FIGHTING BALDOMIR. The Hattons know this.......... Even if Hatton is finally serious about taking this fight( questionable ), it will be killed at the negotiation table.

5 million quid = 10 million dollars....

[Guru_Too_You]

I think this whole thread can be summed up by saying, no one knows shit. Who knows what the details are. If that's a starting point and Floyd is assured that he'll get the larger piece of the American PPV pie (I imagine he'll insist on this), maybe it can work out.

I know that Hatton asked for more money than that to fight PBF in the States.

[Danny]

I posted a thread a couple of days ago saying that Ricky wanted his next fight to be in UK!! Mayweather should come here if he's serious about fighting Hatton. $9million is a massive payday and Mayweather would be getting the larger %


Floyd will not agree to box Ricky in the UK, simple as that. The amount of money that would peroahps even tempt Mayweather into coming over here, the promoters would not be able to afford.

I reckon Floyd will not accept the offer, & we'll see his camp come back with an offer for Ricky to fight in the USA. If this is the case of events, I'd be curious to know what the offer from Mayweather's camp would be?

David, you say $9/10M is a massive, but let me put the pffer into perspective for you. Tyson earned $9M IN 1989 for fighting Bruno. That was over 18 years, and inflation has happened sine then. I know Tyson was a PPV draw like no other, but still that was over 18 years ago.

If the fight happens, it'll be the USA, no other location. Las Vegas the most likeliest of venues for the fight.

One senses that if the fight goes by the wayside now, it'll never happen. If both genuinely want the fight, then they should be careful not to miss the boat so-to-speak. Nothing has been set-in-stone, no contracts signed or anything like that & there's a lot of hype about the bout happening. If it doesn't happen, it'll be a big let-down for us fans.

That's the only fear I have in respect of this fight, & half the reason why I'm excited but only a little bit. I want something concrete before getting my expectations up.

[GazOC]

Tyson was a heavyweight, they play by different rules financially.

[Nuke]

Hw's are always gonna make more. not a good perspective.

[PATSYS]

For me $10M offer is quite reasonable already.

But I want to hear what PBF offers Hatton if the fight is in the US. I doubt PBF could offer even close to that.

[limi_7]

I really don't care what most of you think. A 10 million dollar offer and its not enough? You do the math. If floyd wants to really prove his record, he shouldn't care so much about the money, I mean common 10 million thats a lot, but reputation is bigger.

[BOOKA]

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click on the view finder, 90,000 for a boxing bout, the atmosphere would be amazing, hatton would love it and i also believe PBF would thrive in it too ( me against the world mentality would kick in )

would be a great spectacle at wembley i reckon

[Imperial1]

10 mill for mayweather
6 mill for hatton



That seems fair ..

This fight will bring in more fans for Hatton he will be like the Delahoya in the UK for this fight ..I'm sure it will be the same where more people are not only gonna support Ricky for National pride but they will tune in to see if he could beat the best fighter P4P ..



It gives me chills juts thinking about this fight !!!


:scaredas: :deal :bbb

[C Money]

Well, it seems while Floyd "took the lead" in negoitiations with his 'Punk ass sign the contract" routine, but now,Hatton has countered the offer.

Still got questions surrounding this offer though?? Is it 5P/10M then a 60/40 PPV split for Floyd?? Because if it's the base guaranteed offer, plus PPV, promotions and such?? Then Floyd stands to make somewhere in the 12-15 Million range all told. He's not making that much against SSM, Cotto, or the Margarito vs Williams winner so it could be a VERY LUCRATIVE and perhaps the top offer Floyd might recieve.

What Floyd should do now, is COUNTER BACK. What's their figures?? What are they offering to fight here in the USA, ??? Or what's the price to go to the UK???

There's NO QUESTION that Wembley would be a much larger scale atmosphere, but it's also Hatton's backyard. So, I look forwrad to the next volley.

But 5P/10M FLAT????:nonono :nonono :nonono The fight's simply worth more, Shit, IMO Hatton should get 10M and PBF should get 12M plus(++++) a 60/40 Split in favor of Floyd in the PPV revenue divided between them.

Wonder what the PBF "offer" was worth?? Hope to hear what the counter-offer is worth:D

[C.J.Rock]

nah mayweather shouldnt take that

dont worry he wont unless he brings the ring officials from vegas with him. Any way are ya scared PBF might get his ass whupped?

[C.J.Rock]

Its cheap for Mayweather, Hatton cannot talk money to him :-(

Dont worry PBF will price himself out of it scared

[C.J.Rock]

he made 20million vs oscar why half that for his next fight

he should make around 13million dollars

He made $20 mil and stunk the place out His fights are boring he wont take the offer coz he's scared he'll get his ass whupped

[Guru_Too_You]

He made $20 mil and stunk the place out His fights are boring he wont take the offer coz he's scared he'll get his ass whupped

Yes, a scared fighter definitely makes his way through 5 weight classes unbeaten.

A scared fighter definitely makes multiple offers to an opponent whom he is scared of right?

Hatton has said "I'm not ready" and then priced himself out with a demand of 13 million (five times as much as he ever made for a bout).

Then they offer Mayweather even less than they demanded to fight in the US.

What are you retarded?

[platnumpapi]

pbf should get 10 no more no less.

[maracho]

Let's not be stupid, Ricky can't offer Floyd what DLH can. $10mil is a very nice figure. Let's not forget sponsorship, gate money, tv money etc He could go home with 20mil maybe.

Hatton got paid 2.5 for Castillo but ended up with 10.5!

You don't know if you can handle the crowd until you've handle a British crowd. I think to a degree Tszyu, Lacy and Manfredo failed. Tszyu the least but I think Lacy and Manfredo were affected.

I agree. I could almost feel the energy through my television during the Tszyu fight. Lacy was undoubtedly affected by the crowd but I think he even looked unsure days before the fight while in England

140 or Manchester! I say Floyd is scared

[Imperial1]

Well, it seems while Floyd "took the lead" in negoitiations with his 'Punk ass sign the contract" routine, but now,Hatton has countered the offer.

Still got questions surrounding this offer though?? Is it 5P/10M then a 60/40 PPV split for Floyd?? Because if it's the base guaranteed offer, plus PPV, promotions and such?? Then Floyd stands to make somewhere in the 12-15 Million range all told. He's not making that much against SSM, Cotto, or the Margarito vs Williams winner so it could be a VERY LUCRATIVE and perhaps the top offer Floyd might recieve.

What Floyd should do now, is COUNTER BACK. What's their figures?? What are they offering to fight here in the USA, ??? Or what's the price to go to the UK???

There's NO QUESTION that Wembley would be a much larger scale atmosphere, but it's also Hatton's backyard. So, I look forwrad to the next volley.

But 5P/10M FLAT????:nonono :nonono :nonono The fight's simply worth more, Shit, IMO Hatton should get 10M and PBF should get 12M plus(++++) a 60/40 Split in favor of Floyd in the PPV revenue divided between them.

Wonder what the PBF "offer" was worth?? Hope to hear what the counter-offer is worth:D


i think 6 for Ricky is fair if its held in the states in the UK 10 for Ricky 12 for Floyd ..But lets be honest its more than likely gonna l be in Vegas ..I'd like to know how many people tuned in to watch Ricky on HBO ..Either way its going to be an interesting series of events .From the negotiations,media wars and the press confrences !

[magnificentdave]

i just read in this thread that ricky made 10.5 fighting Castillo in the US, why should he make less for floyd than he did for castillo?

[C.J.Rock]

The thing is Mayweather will probably win that one on points - does he
fancy coming all this way for a judges decision? Plus, has he seen Minter-Hagler:D

What was wrong with Minter-Hagler? I was there Minter was still in the fight till Marvin opened up those cuts. Obviously youre mistaken
Mayweather has the mouth but I think he lacks the cojonnes ala
ducking Margarito he'll do same here

[Imperial1]

i just read in this thread that ricky made 10.5 fighting Castillo in the US, why should he make less for floyd than he did for castillo?

If that’s the case, this is going to be one hell of a negotiation..

[acb]

I love how people claim the fight is worth this and that.

How do any of you know what it is worth.....?

What we do know is this....that PBF by himself as the so called draw, highest payday was about 8 mil. And that isn't even a HARD number as PBF and his camp were secretive about what he made against Baldo.

If PBF wants to know what his real worth is. Then all he has to do is fight a no name top contender and put it on PPV and see where he comes out at.

I think we all know that PBF would not do well.

PBF only gets 6 figure paydays because HBO believes in monopolizing the best fighters and they will pay to do that.

If Hatton offered 10 mil guranteed NOT including TV rights money, gate money, and PPV money that is a MORE THAN FAIR STARTING GROUND.

Fuck the world is about to end, I have never agreed with a Requim post more than this, to the word.

[Imperial1]

Mayweather has the mouth but I think he lacks the cojonnes ala
ducking Margarito he'll do same here


If he does fight Hatton will that Margarito nonsense go away ?? It should have been dismissed when he took on Oscar but it always rears its ugly head :lol:

[C.J.Rock]

Nope !!! Las vegas Floyd's in the driver seat I see no reason to give that up that advantage. Zoo made the mistake of fighting rick in manchester , I highly doubt floyd would make the same mistake.


Please explain why pbf would be in the drivers seat in vegas? Do you mean the judges would favor him ? He'd get a decision he doesnt deserve?? Tszyu fought hatton in UK had a level field Hatton was just too strong too good no need for crooked judges there

[Thom]

Please explain why pbf would be in the drivers seat in vegas? Do you mean the judges would favor him ? He'd get a decision he doesnt deserve?? Tszyu fought hatton in UK had a level field Hatton was just too strong too good no need for crooked judges there

Tszyu had a level field in Manchester? :lol: You mean like when Hatton landed that low blow and the ref did everything but pat him on the back? No time out, no warning, nothing. Is that your idea of fair? :rofl

[C.J.Rock]

Yes, a scared fighter definitely makes his way through 5 weight classes unbeaten.

A scared fighter definitely makes multiple offers to an opponent whom he is scared of right?

Hatton has said "I'm not ready" and then priced himself out with a demand of 13 million (five times as much as he ever made for a bout).

Then they offer Mayweather even less than they demanded to fight in the US.

What are you retarded?

Mayweather doesnt fight he runs why didnt he fight Margarito ?? he took a pay cut to meet Baldimir instead. Mayweather is all mouth very lacking in the cojonnes dept

[Thom]

Mayweather doesnt fight he runs why didnt he fight Margarito ?? he took a pay cut to meet Baldimir instead. Mayweather is all mouth very lacking in the cojonnes dept

He got the same amount of money and the linear title you dizzy fucking cunt. STFU.

[Thom]

I agree. I could almost feel the energy through my television during the Tszyu fight. Lacy was undoubtedly affected by the crowd but I think he even looked unsure days before the fight while in England

140 or Manchester! I say Floyd is scared

Is Mayweather scared? Has he even commented on this yet?

[C.J.Rock]

If he does fight Hatton will that Margarito nonsense go away ?? It should have been dismissed when he took on Oscar but it always rears its ugly head :lol:

Oscar was a pussy cat compared to margarito anyway PBF took less $$$ to fight baldimir instead of margarito lets see your answer to that one

[Thom]

Oscar was a pussy cat compared to margarito anyway PBF took less $$$ to fight baldimir instead of margarito lets see your answer to that one


WTF? That's bullshit asshole. If you're going to bash someone do it on the facts.

[David UK]

I could care less who makes what, I'm a boxing fan and there is nothing like watching UK fans going bananas and chanting and singing and doing all kindas of shit during the fight. Contrast that with Vegas highrollers doing nothing more then yelling for a good punch or something. When I saw that Hatton/ Zoo fight and the way that crowd was, WoW! I was like this is what a crowd should be like. Nothing America can do can compare to that. Fuk for fuks sake American crowds don't even sing the national anthem, we watch somebody else do it, and we all claim to be partriotic? Fuk I think everyfight should be in the UK.

And some of these highroller twats had the temerity to boo Barrera during his last fight. Can you imagine knowledgable UK fans BOOING BARRERA?????:huh

[C.J.Rock]

Tszyu had a level field in Manchester? :lol: You mean like when Hatton landed that low blow and the ref did everything but pat him on the back? No time out, no warning, nothing. Is that your idea of fair? :rofl

Has Tszyu ever complained about that fight?? NO He knew on the night he was beaten by the better man

[C.J.Rock]

WTF? That's bullshit asshole. If you're going to bash someone do it on the facts.

He was offered Margarito for $ 9 mil instead he took Baldimir for $7.5 mil Comprende and anyway cant you guys discuss boxing without the childish obscenities

[Thom]

Has Tszyu ever complained about that fight?? NO He knew on the night he was beaten by the better man


Maybe his still in mourning over the loss of function in his testicles.

Funny, you didn't even try to deny that the incident took place as I described it.

[Imperial1]

Oscar was a pussy cat compared to margarito anyway PBF took less $$$ to fight baldimir instead of margarito lets see your answer to that one

A pussy cat I recall plenty of people saying Oscar was gonna knock him the fuck out before the fight I myself included ..

[C.J.Rock]

Tszyu had a level field in Manchester? :lol: You mean like when Hatton landed that low blow and the ref did everything but pat him on the back? No time out, no warning, nothing. Is that your idea of fair? :rofl


If youre talking about corrupt refs try the US finest Richard Steele and Joe Cortez Cortez warned then DQ'd Kirk Johnson for landing legit body shots against Ruiz He folowed Ruiz oscar winning acting performance

[Thom]

He was offered Margarito for $ 9 mil instead he took Baldimir for $7.5 mil Comprende and anyway cant you guys discuss boxing without the childish obscenities

He was offered $8 mil for Margo and got a $8 mil + PPV for Baldomir.

BTW I dare you to come up with someone other than Bob "yesterday I was lying, today I'm telling the truth" Arum who can confirm that the offer was genuine. Oh and let's not forget that Floyd's goal was the DLH fight and that massive payday. He bought his contract out from Arum and refused to deal with him anymore because Top Rank doesn't do business with GBP due to the fact that Arum is still bitter that Oscar is even more successful on his own. Take your BS elsewhere.

[C.J.Rock]

Maybe his still in mourning over the loss of function in his testicles.

Funny, you didn't even try to deny that the incident took place as I described it.

I never saw a low blow Tszyu never complained of one thats good enough for me

[Thom]

If youre talking about corrupt refs try the US finest Richard Steele and Joe Cortez Cortez warned then DQ'd Kirk Johnson for landing legit body shots against Ruiz He folowed Ruiz oscar winning acting performance

I never or implied that there aren't crooked or incompetent refs on our side of the pond. Don't puts words in my mouth so that you can change the subject at hand. I took issue with implication that Hatton WASN'T favored by the ref in the Tszyu fight.

[Fab2333]

I thought Ricky was tryin 2 build his fanbase in America, why is he all of a sudden wants to fight in the UK? :huh

[Thom]

I never saw a low blow Tszyu never complained of one thats good enough for me
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Like I said, he's probably still in mourning over the loss of frank and beans. :yep

[C.J.Rock]

A pussy cat I recall plenty of people saying Oscar was gonna knock him the fuck out before the fight I myself included ..

Wise up man Oscar was in there for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ he never expected to win just do his best

[Thom]

I thought Ricky was tryin 2 build his fanbase in America, why is he all of a sudden wants to fight in the UK? :huh

Very good question. Any Hatton fanatics want to field this question?

I'll take a guess. Probably so he can get away with shit like this...

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in front his of drunken, deranged countrymen while they chant and soil their football scarfs with saliva, ale and partially digested steak and kidney pie. :yep

[C.J.Rock]

I never or implied that there aren't crooked or incompetent refs on our side of the pond. Don't puts words in my mouth so that you can change the subject at hand. I took issue with implication that Hatton WASN'T favored by the ref in the Tszyu fight.

So an incompetant ref misses a low blow what else is he supposed to have done to favor Hatton?

[Imperial1]

Wise up man Oscar was in there for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ he never expected to win just do his best

Wise up Oscar was there for the money ?? How does that sound the one thing Oscar lacked going into that fight ws money homie ..

[EpsilonAxis]

To be honest, PBF will never make anything close to what he made against Oscar.

Personally, i think 10 mil is very reasonable. That's double what he used to make regularly per fight. And i'd have to assume Hatton is getting the same or less purse.

Fact is, if Floyd wants the most money in a Hatton fight, it's going to have to be in Manchester, where he can expect a HUGE crowd.

[C.J.Rock]

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Like I said, he's probably still in mourning over the loss of frank and beans. :yep

that wasnt low was on the beltline

[Thom]

So an incompetant ref misses a low blow what else is he supposed to have done to favor Hatton?


How THE FUCK do you miss this?

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Was that “ref” in desperate need of cataract surgery?

Wait a sec. I thought there was no low blow? :rofl :lol: :rofl

[Fab2333]

To be honest, PBF will never make anything close to what he made against Oscar.

Personally, i think 10 mil is very reasonable. That's double what he used to make regularly per fight. And i'd have to assume Hatton is getting the same or less purse.

Fact is, if Floyd wants the most money in a Hatton fight, it's going to have to be in Manchester, where he can expect a HUGE crowd.
1st off Floyd is the top dog in the sport, no way should Hatton make the same as Floyd if they fight. So Floyd should get a bigger split. 2ndly fighting in the UK is unfair to FLoyd, he will have the whole arena against him per say. I mean that doesnt really matter at the end of the day b/c its him against Hatton but still. They should fight in Vegas where it can be a neutral crowd. And they can make the same amount of money. Hatton has I think 11,000 fans from Manchester in the crowd when he fought Jose Luis Castillo. So they wil follow him anywhere. And it will sell out in any arena they have it. So to be fair to both parties the fight should take place in Vegas.

[C.J.Rock]

How THE FUCK do you miss this?

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Was that “ref” in desperate need of cataract surgery?

Wait a sec. I thought there was no low blow? :rofl :lol: :rofl

Who was the ref I forget he had a cear view saw it was on the beltline not low

[Thom]

To be honest, PBF will never make anything close to what he made against Oscar.

Personally, i think 10 mil is very reasonable. That's double what he used to make regularly per fight. And i'd have to assume Hatton is getting the same or less purse.

Fact is, if Floyd wants the most money in a Hatton fight, it's going to have to be in Manchester, where he can expect a HUGE crowd.

BS, a casino fee for this fight would easily trump the live gate even for a filled stadium. Mayweather got $8 mil + for Baldo and that fight did over 300,000 buys against a free HW "title" fight on Showtime. Why should he go to the UK and fight on Hatton's terms for $10 mil? And why are arguing about a rumored preliminary offer. Has Mayweather even responded to this yet?

[Thom]

Who was the ref I forget he had a cear view saw it was on the beltline not low


Sure dude, sure. :rasta

[C.J.Rock]

1st off Floyd is the top dog in the sport, no way should Hatton make the same as Floyd if they fight. So Floyd should get a bigger split. 2ndly fighting in the UK is unfair to FLoyd, he will have the whole arena against him per say. I mean that doesnt really matter at the end of the day b/c its him against Hatton but still. They should fight in Vegas where it can be a neutral crowd. And they can make the same amount of money. Hatton has I think 11,000 fans from Manchester in the crowd when he fought Jose Luis Castillo. So they wil follow him anywhere. And it will sell out in any arena they have it. So to be fair to both parties the fight should take place in Vegas.

No No you mean in vegas pbf will have the vegas 3 blind mice he cant lose then can he. Let him put his ass where his mouth is and go to england Sorry I dont think he has the cojonnes

[EL BULLY]

Hey, fellas.

Why are we getting bogged down in all this financial bullshit. There's a reason why the negotiators negotiate behined closed doors and the fighters fight in public=IT'S THE FIGHTS THAT WE WANT TO SEE NOT THE BUSINESS.

LOOK. Fact is an offer has been made, it's a start: a place for all negotiations to be made from. This fight could be close to being made because Hobson, ******, DLH and even by some accounts Don King are all after signing Hatton. Basically 4 promotors have the chance to land the PBF fight, and if they do that BIGBUCKS!

Everyone always said that Hatton ducked Mayweather because he turned down an insulting dog shit offer, now they're saying Hatton is ducking PBF by making an insulting dogshit offer...

Let's just hope the fight is made at whatever price. what do they have combined ? something like 81-0 combined record...Would that be a world record for a boxing match?

[Kostya Zoo]

thats a really disturbing avatar.

[Imperial1]

No one makes the kind of money fighting Oscar with someone else thats why he is Oscar .He brings that big payday no matter who he fights ..But for now Floyd is a star his fight with Judah didn't that bad so I think its fair to give him some drawing credibility ..Hatton's home crowd is twice that of Floyd's and they are willing to travel so to be fair to both and since Floyd beat Oscar ,12 for Floyd and 11 to Hatton .That should be the final offer !

[Sheehan]

Its cheap for Mayweather, Hatton cannot talk money to him :-(

meaning mayweathers a greedy cunt :deal

[EL BULLY]

Why should PBF get more money?

Hatton is just as hot at the moment, and arguably the bigger draw as he has the all action style.

PBF has retired so he aint the champ, or am I wrong about that?

Maybe he will get more money but I don't get why everyone automatically thinks he should get the lions share. He does get booed everytime he fights and the people booing are the people who pay the fighters wages really.

[Thom]

Why should PBF get more money?

Hatton is just as hot at the moment, and arguably the bigger draw as he has the all action style.

PBF has retired so he aint the champ, or am I wrong about that?

Maybe he will get more money but I don't get why everyone automatically thinks he should get the lions share. He does get booed everytime he fights and the people booing are the people who pay the fighters wages really.

You know, this is off topic, but WTF is going on in your avatar? Can you break that down for us? :huh

[pit]

Please explain why pbf would be in the drivers seat in vegas? Do you mean the judges would favor him ? He'd get a decision he doesnt deserve?? Tszyu fought hatton in UK had a level field Hatton was just too strong too good no need for crooked judges there

leve playing field was this before or after Zoo was hugged and robbed of his nuts.

who are you fucking kidding Tszyu got hugged and rapped in the UK , that why was so mad that his management took the fight with out getting his final ok..

Anyway

yes Id be happy to school you .. Floyd is the noted 4p4 fighter so that translates to he is the man to beat from 130 to 154. That allows him to chose the place and location , he also was undisputed in 130,134 and 147 and belts holder at 140 and 154.. so this make Floyd the man at p4p and he is King Alphabet from 130 to 154 with respect to 140 ..

his PPV and vagus sale in the US more then equal hatton's in manchester ..

and let not forget Floyd has other choices hear in the states that can translate in more revenue then Hatton ..

Shane , Cotto , winner of margarito and williams .. Im pretty sure floyd can drop name on any one of these guy and the fight is made, so in reality he does not need Hatton. any one of the previous name will make up for his pushing hatton to the side based on his past dealing with hatton , so if Floyd says the hell with Hatton bring on shane , no one will think twice about Hatton other then his fans in Manchester.

so hatton can conform or kick fucking rocks as I see it .. Arum and Oscar have big enough pockets to accommodate floyd greed as well supply the legit comp to cement legacy .Cotto and Shane would be more marketable product should they beat Floyd .

[Guru_Too_You]

Mayweather doesnt fight he runs why didnt he fight Margarito ?? he took a pay cut to meet Baldimir instead. Mayweather is all mouth very lacking in the cojonnes dept

When Hatton fights a super middleweight, come talk to me about cojonnes.

He couldnt even handle moving up one division.

[Fab2333]

leve playing field was this before or after Zoo was hugged and robbed of his nuts.

who are you fucking kidding Tszyu got hugged and rapped in the UK , that why was so mad that his management took the fight with out getting his final ok..

Anyway

yes Id be happy to school you .. Floyd is the noted 4p4 fighter so that translates to he is the man to beat from 130 to 154. That allows him to chose the place and location , he also was undisputed in 130,134 and 147 and belts holder at 140 and 154.. so this make Floyd the man at p4p and he is King Alphabet from 130 to 154 with respect to 140 ..


his PPV and vagus sale in the US more then equal hatton's in manchester ..

and let not forget Floyd has other choices hear in the states that can translate in more revenue then Hatton ..

Shane , Cotto , winner of margarito and williams .. Im pretty sure floyd can drop name on any one of these guy and the fight is made, so in reality he does not need Hatton. any one of the previous name will make up for his pushing hatton to the side based on his past dealing with hatton , so if Floyd says the hell with Hatton bring on shane , no one will think twice about Hatton other then his fans in Manchester.

so hatton can conform or kick fucking rocks as I see it .. Arum and Oscar have big enough pockets to accommodate floyd greed as well supply the legit comp to cement legacy .Cotto and Shane would be more marketable product should they beat Floyd .
:happy

[Fab2333]

When Hatton fights a super middleweight, come talk to me about cojonnes.

He couldnt even handle moving up one division.
you mean welterweight, not middleweight. But i knew wat u meant
anyway :happy:thumbsup

[Guru_Too_You]

you mean welterweight, not middleweight. But i knew wat u meant
anyway :happy:thumbsup
No i didnt.

Mayweather campaigned and won titles at 130, 135, 140, 147 and 154.

Hatton campaigned and won titles at 140, and 147.

In order to keep pace with Mayweather he would need to campaign and win titles at 154, 160 and 168.

And the ignorant poster had the nerve to question Mayweather's balls in contrast to Hatton's, even though Hatton already ran from Mayweather twice.

[Thom]

No i didnt.

Mayweather campaigned and won titles at 130, 135, 140, 147 and 154.

Hatton campaigned and won titles at 140, and 147.

In order to keep pace with Mayweather he would need to campaign and win titles at 154, 160 and 168.

And the ignorant poster had the nerve to question Mayweather's balls in contrast to Hatton's, even though Hatton already ran from Mayweather twice.

:good

[Fab2333]

No i didnt.

Mayweather campaigned and won titles at 130, 135, 140, 147 and 154.

Hatton campaigned and won titles at 140, and 147.

In order to keep pace with Mayweather he would need to campaign and win titles at 154, 160 and 168.

And the ignorant poster had the nerve to question Mayweather's balls in contrast to Hatton's, even though Hatton already ran from Mayweather twice.

o ok I see what your saying now, I didnt read the previous posts to see what you meant, but I understand now. My Mistake

[Guru_Too_You]

o ok I see what your saying now, I didnt read the previous posts to see what you meant, but I understand now. My Mistake
Its all good Fab. Love the avatar btw.

[Fab2333]

Its all good Fab. Love the avatar btw.

thanx, shes gorgeous
anyway this fight needs to get made asap, so Floyd can expose Hatton.
Beign that Floyd is to dog
he should get the bigger split
and the fight should happen in Vegas, more money is in Vegas than in Manchester, and Vegas is a level playing field. if Floyd fights in the UK. the whole country will be against him.:rofl

And no1 hasnt answered my ? still
I thought Hatton was fighting in America to build his american fanbase. Why all of a sudden when Floyd comes into the picture he wants to fight in the UK?
Wat a coincidence:huh

[Rock0052]

Floyd can't fucking sell out my basement.

:lol: