View Full Version : Is Hatton bigger draw than Mayweather?
Stinky gloves
06-28-2007, 11:29 AM
DLH wants fight him, Casamayor wants fight him, Malignaggi wants fight him, Witter wants fight him
and even Floyd himself wants come back from deep retirement to fight him in England.
I really have no idea, Floyd obviously has a larger following here in the U.S. while Hatton has his own in England.
I do know this, Floyds fans (and Floyd himself) have an over inflated sense of drawing power thanks to Oscar.
Pimp C
06-28-2007, 11:35 AM
Hatton in UK
PBF in US
It comes down to where the most money can be made and that's in the US hands down.
Stinky gloves
06-28-2007, 11:36 AM
Oscar is not going after legacy itself, he is going after the money first.
So the way DLH is not giving Mayweather a second shot :yep speak for itself,
Mayweather isn't draw anymore, Hatton is a hot peanut right now :deal
Hatton in UK
PBF in US
It comes down to where the most money can be made and that's in the US hands down.
Why though? Not that your wrong, I really dont know the economics of the situation. Seems that the live gate could be staggeringly hight in England.
Oscar is not going after legacy itself, he is going after the money first.
So the way DLH is not giving Mayweather a second shot :yep speak for itself,
Mayweather isn't draw anymore, Hatton is a hot peanut right now :deal
Objectively speaking, you cant really say that. Oscar is going to bring in the money either way, so I could counter argue that why not do it against Hatton, which DLH has the style and skills to beat.
Pimp C
06-28-2007, 11:39 AM
Why though? Not that your wrong, I really dont know the economics of the siuation. Seems that the live gate could be staggeringly hight in England.
Casino money and PPV money will be more than live gate and PPV money in UK.
Casino money and PPV money will be more than live gate and PPV money in UK.
Do we really know that?
I know fuck-nothing about how to calculate that. Illuminate my ignorance.
chliJs
06-28-2007, 11:43 AM
everybody can call him out nowadays. guys like malignaggi shouldn't stand a chance, but they're not in danger anyway, hatton has too many candidates, so they just talk some shit for attention.
who should really want to fight hatton? his awkward brawling/clinching style doesn't guarantee a clean and attractive fight, his fanatic supporters won't let you breathe (and they don't care where it takes place), and put together these two factors also mean gift decisions, especially in britain.
cortdawg25
06-28-2007, 11:44 AM
how do you know where the most money can be made? :patsch
Hatton can fill a STADIUM..
and his fans will TRAVEL to see him in the States.
Hatton is the bigger DRAW hands down.. How many PPV have Ricky done? Ricky can fill a soccer stadium full of soccer fans not boxing fans in UK. But Floyd has a bigger following due to fans and people like you who want to see him lose. Ricky just has soccer fans who want to travel and drink beer.
Stinky gloves
06-28-2007, 11:44 AM
Casino money and PPV money will be more than live gate and PPV money in UK.
I think they may go to agreement as follow:
Live statium money + PPV in Enagland + PPV in US, why not?
So Floyd get money from PPV in US and Hatton from PPV in England and the stadium.
Pimp C
06-28-2007, 11:46 AM
I think they may go to agreement as follow:
Live statium money + PPV in Enagland + PPV in US, why not?
So Floyd get money from PPV in US and Hatton from PPV in England and the stadium.
Well then it comes down to who needs the other one more and who the man is and that cleary is PBF. The fight should be in Vegas.:D
GazOC
06-28-2007, 11:47 AM
Casino money and PPV money will be more than live gate and PPV money in UK.
Theres no need to lose the USA PPV money, the Hatton - Zoo fight when on at a time to suit the Americans.
Shotgun
06-28-2007, 11:51 AM
Hattons largest career purse $2.5 million vs Castillo
Mayweathers biggest purse $12 million vs Delahoya & $10 million v Baldomir
:lol:
First of all you're pulling those numbers completely out of your ass, Hatton has made more than $2.5 million before. Next, Hatton's payday against Castillo doesn't take into account the money he made from British TV money and other sources. He's rumored to have made around $10 million for that fight all told
That's the the thing people on ESB don't seem to get a lot of the time. A popular European fighter like Hatton, Lewis, Klitschkos, whoever else going to the US is going to make a lot of money from international TV money that wouldn't be there otherwise. They bring in sources of income that aren't present in fights between two Americans
GazOC
06-28-2007, 11:52 AM
...paying Fans!
Boinko
06-28-2007, 12:06 PM
Whether it's fair or not, Mayweather has been deemed by many as a boring fighter. Not many casual fans are intrigued by him.
Now, boxing purists totally appreciate his talent in the ring, but it's not the boxing purists who have the final say when it comes to PPV numbers.
So, I would say that right now Hatton is a bigger draw than Mayweather. It's ironic since I think Mayweather will easily beat Hatton.
So, it might make sense for PBF to go to England. I don't expect the Hatton fight to be all that difficult for him.
PATSYS
06-28-2007, 12:09 PM
If only to PBF, I believe Hatton is a bigger draw.
Guru_Too_You
06-28-2007, 12:21 PM
Whether it's fair or not, Mayweather has been deemed by many as a boring fighter. Not many casual fans are intrigued by him.
Now, boxing purists totally appreciate his talent in the ring, but it's not the boxing purists who have the final say when it comes to PPV numbers.
So, I would say that right now Hatton is a bigger draw than Mayweather. It's ironic since I think Mayweather will easily beat Hatton.
So, it might make sense for PBF to go to England. I don't expect the Hatton fight to be all that difficult for him.
:good
I want him to go to MEN arena and fight Ricky there more than anything else in boxing right now.
BigReg
06-28-2007, 12:31 PM
People can say what they want, but the only active fighter who is more well known and a bigger draw than Floyd is Oscar. If you disagree please name another fighter who gets as much exposure and posts bigger PPV numbers. The Gatti fight made Floyd a ppv attraction , the Oscar fight made him a household name. Hatton is a local product. His UK fans are tremendous(I still can't believe thousands of them flew from England to watch him fight), but outside of them he doesn't really have a following.
Caper
06-28-2007, 12:32 PM
DLH wants fight him, Casamayor wants fight him, Malignaggi wants fight him, Witter wants fight him
and even Floyd himself wants come back from deep retirement to fight him in England.
Well if you think about who's willing to dish out the cash to see thier man fight I would go with Hatton.
It comes down to where the most money can be made and that's in the US hands down.
Hatton can make more money filling out a stadium than Floyd could in America. the place the fight would make the most money would be Wembley in London. No question about it.
Whilst there is more money per head in America, Hatton has more fans in England than Floyd does in America. Hatton could sell 90,000. Floyd would struggle to sell 20,000 in America.
So yeah, there is a lot more money in England.
platnumpapi
06-28-2007, 12:45 PM
I Think Hatton Has The Bigger Draw, Only Black Boxing Fans And Few Other Non Blacks Boxing Fans Like Him.other People Just Watch Him To See Him Lose.everyone In England Loves Ricky Hatton.i Think In Hatton Vs Mayweather, Hatton Would Have All The England Fans And 50% Of Us Fans I Think.larry Merchant And Emmanuel Steward Would Be Rooting For Him.
Id Say Make The Fight, Put Pbf In England.he Likes Being The Bad Guy And Getting Booed.im Sure He Would Here The Loudest Boos Hes Ever Heard And He Likes That.id Say Pay Them Both 10 Million And Extra 5 For The Winner.
Words
06-28-2007, 12:54 PM
everybody can call him out nowadays. guys like malignaggi shouldn't stand a chance, but they're not in danger anyway, hatton has too many candidates, so they just talk some shit for attention.
who should really want to fight hatton? his awkward brawling/clinching style doesn't guarantee a clean and attractive fight, his fanatic supporters won't let you breathe (and they don't care where it takes place), and put together these two factors also mean gift decisions, especially in britain.
What the fuck are you on about? Name one instanc where Hatton was the recipient of a gift decision in Britain. The only thing close to a gift Hatton got was against Luis Collazo, in AMERICA.
Im still waiting for someone to break down the economics of Live Gate $ in England vs Casino money in the U.S. :huh
People can say what they want, but the only active fighter who is more well known and a bigger draw than Floyd is Oscar. If you disagree please name another fighter who gets as much exposure and posts bigger PPV numbers. The Gatti fight made Floyd a ppv attraction , the Oscar fight made him a household name. Hatton is a local product. His UK fans are tremendous(I still can't believe thousands of them flew from England to watch him fight), but outside of them he doesn't really have a following.
A household name? Im sorry man I dont agree. Floyd became a household name for about 2 weeks with 24-7, and nobodys is clamoring for him to make a comeback. I dont hear a damm thing from casual boxing-sports fans, he simply is not in demand in the general public and if his fans dont want to accept that then tough shit.
I mean do you have any friends who follow boxing casually, that say, damm I wish Floyd would come back.. Boxing just isnt the same without him. Hell no. If he was truely a household name this would be happening and its just not.
platnumpapi
06-28-2007, 01:27 PM
A household name? Im sorry man I dont agree. Floyd became a household name for about 2 weeks with 24-7, and nobodys is clamoring for him to make a comeback. I dont hear a damm thing from casual boxing-sports fans, he simply is not in demand in the general public and if his fans dont want to accept that then tough shit.
I mean do you have any friends who follow boxing casually, that say, damm I wish Floyd would come back.. Boxing just isnt the same without him. Hell no. If he was truely a household name this would be happening and its just not.
thats true but the casual fans or the ones i know only seem to talk about roy jones jr and mike tyson.they know the name oscar de la hoya but cant name one fight he has been in but the recent mayweather fight.
thats true but the casual fans or the ones i know only seem to talk about roy jones jr and mike tyson.they know the name oscar de la hoya but cant name one fight he has been in but the recent mayweather fight.
But they pay to see Oscar fight. I have friends also who couldnt tell me who Oscar fought before Floyd (some nicaraguan guy) but somehow they allways buy into the hype and buy the PPV.
chliJs
06-28-2007, 01:47 PM
What the fuck are you on about? Name one instanc where Hatton was the recipient of a gift decision in Britain. The only thing close to a gift Hatton got was against Luis Collazo, in AMERICA.
stop crying you little bitch. and then quote me where i said that hatton got any gift decision (yet). good luck by that, groupie.
Stinky gloves
06-28-2007, 03:32 PM
thats true but the casual fans or the ones i know only seem to talk about roy jones jr and mike tyson.they know the name oscar de la hoya but cant name one fight he has been in but the recent mayweather fight.
At least casual fans know the name of DLH but probably they have no clue who Mayweather is.
Danny Ocean
06-28-2007, 03:36 PM
At least casual fans know the name of DLH but probably they have no clue who Mayweather is.
HUH ?
you claim nobody knows who floyd is
if thats the case why did he set a record a record in his last fight 2.15million ppvs
if floyd was a nobody then the fight would have done 1millionppvs like mayorga,tito etc
if he was a nobody why is he good friends 50 cent, why is
chauncey billups on the baldy-floyd preview show talkin about how great he is
if hes not know why are his ppvs outselling barreras,jonesjr,hopkins,cotto
why would he be goin to celeb dinners with meagan good
`:good
Stinky gloves
06-28-2007, 07:04 PM
HUH ?
you claim nobody knows who floyd is
if thats the case why did he set a record a record in his last fight 2.15million ppvs
This is obvious, they lieke to see DLH.
Alo2006
06-28-2007, 07:07 PM
Hatton in UK
PBF in US
It comes down to where the most money can be made and that's in the US hands down.
:good
Alo2006
06-28-2007, 07:09 PM
At least casual fans know the name of DLH but probably they have no clue who Mayweather is.
Get the hell out of here :lol:
Ramshall1
06-28-2007, 08:00 PM
Hatton sells more tickets in UK and U.S. - his fans follow him across the Ocean. FMJ has no fans to follow him around the block.
BigReg
06-28-2007, 08:36 PM
A household name? Im sorry man I dont agree. Floyd became a household name for about 2 weeks with 24-7, and nobodys is clamoring for him to make a comeback. I dont hear a damm thing from casual boxing-sports fans, he simply is not in demand in the general public and if his fans dont want to accept that then tough shit.
I mean do you have any friends who follow boxing casually, that say, damm I wish Floyd would come back.. Boxing just isnt the same without him. Hell no. If he was truely a household name this would be happening and its just not.
Overall, no boxer except Oscar is all that popular. However, pretty much everybody I know who even watches boxing a little bit knows who Floyd is. All of my friends know I get all the fights. Whenever Floyd fights I get calls asking if they can come over. I don't hear shit from them when Ricky fights. I tried to invite my boy Dom over for the Hatton-Castillo fight(he's also a big fight fan), you wanna know what he said? He said he doesn't like watching wrestling. Once again, someone name someone who does better ppv numbers, besides Oscar, than Floyd.
Stinky gloves
06-29-2007, 12:32 AM
"Once again, someone name someone who does better ppv numbers, besides Oscar, than Floyd"
Hatton after he KO Mayweather.
PATSYS
06-29-2007, 12:43 AM
I say the only reason people watch PBF fight is when he fights someone very popular (like DLH) or because people like to see him get KTFO.
Pat_Lowe
06-29-2007, 12:51 AM
Oscar is not going after legacy itself, he is going after the money first.
So the way DLH is not giving Mayweather a second shot :yep speak for itself,
Mayweather isn't draw anymore, Hatton is a hot peanut right now :deal
How could you say Mayweather isn't a draw anymore? He drew 300 thousand buys against a complete unknown in Baldomir, and then his fight after that was the biggest fight in PPV history. If anything he is a bigger draw then ever before.
Lance_Uppercut
06-29-2007, 12:53 AM
Im still waiting for someone to break down the economics of Live Gate $ in England vs Casino money in the U.S. :huh
You mean Pimp C didn't? Gee, he always seems to have the FACTS..:lol:
In_FlaMeS
06-29-2007, 01:08 AM
F*cK No !
smokey
06-29-2007, 01:12 AM
Im still waiting for someone to break down the economics of Live Gate $ in England vs Casino money in the U.S. :huh
I can't tell you exact numbers, but I thought the brit fights had MUCH cheaper seats available than US fights. I liked how they had cheap seats for every day people to buy. Someone on here told me you could have gotten into Hatton-Tszyu in MEN for $75-US for some seats. For mega-fights in the US, the cheapest seats are often $350-US and floor seats can get over $1000-US.
Hell, I payed $350 a seat to Juarez-Barrera II and $250 to see Vargas fight Castillejo. The first was a PPV fight, and I thought the seats were a great buy, even though the main event was pretty boring. The Vargas fight was a Boxing After Dark fight where Chi pulled out against Juarez and the title was yanked from Castillejo.
Stinky gloves
06-29-2007, 02:16 AM
How could you say Mayweather isn't a draw anymore? He drew 300 thousand buys against a complete unknown in Baldomir.
Baldomir was like a Cindirella, people wanted to see if he could beat Mayweather,
they been less interested to see if Mayeather can beat journeyman.
CarltonBlues
06-29-2007, 02:20 AM
Easily
IrnBruMan
06-29-2007, 02:34 AM
People can say what they want, but the only active fighter who is more well known and a bigger draw than Floyd is Oscar. If you disagree please name another fighter who gets as much exposure and posts bigger PPV numbers. The Gatti fight made Floyd a ppv attraction , the Oscar fight made him a household name. Hatton is a local product. His UK fans are tremendous(I still can't believe thousands of them flew from England to watch him fight), but outside of them he doesn't really have a following.
Gatti was what drew big numbers to the PBF vs Gatti fight
DLH was what drew big numbers to the PBF vs DLH fight
How does the PPV for PBF vs Judah, and PBF vs Baldomir compare to PBF vs Gatti and DLH :deal
Hatton has fans in the UK and the US - no doubt Floyd has fans in the UK, but only a fraction of Hatton's fanbase.
I would even go as far saying that Hatton has more fans in the UK than PBF has in the US :hey
IrnBruMan
06-29-2007, 02:38 AM
Hatton in UK
PBF in US
It comes down to where the most money can be made and that's in the US hands down.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Geez you can spin some shit - do you ever listen to yourself?
Hatton probably has just as many, if not more, fans than PBF in the US.
Hatton has a huge fanbase in the UK who would be willing to either attend the fight or get the PPV. Think of all the pubs and clubs in the UK who would get the PPV too :deal
Compare Hatton's home crowds to PBFs home crowds...think about it, boy:yep
Just try and get PBF's and Fiddy's balls out of your face and think independantly for once, you puppet :tong
IrnBruMan
06-29-2007, 02:40 AM
Casino money and PPV money will be more than live gate and PPV money in UK.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Lordy days :rofl
'Casino money' :rofl
How much 'casino money' do you think ends up in Floyds pocket? :rofl :rofl :rofl
cableguy
06-29-2007, 02:45 AM
People respect Mayweather as a fighter
People respect Hatton as a fighter...AND AS A PERSON
IrnBruMan
06-29-2007, 02:46 AM
Well then it comes down to who needs the other one more and who the man is and that cleary is PBF. The fight should be in Vegas.:D
ahem!:think
I believe it's PBF who is coming out of retirement to fight Hatton :deal
Hatton has many suitors ATM, he don't need Floyd as much as Floyd wants him...you know why Floyd wants him?
Because Hatton represents his next biggest payday after a rematch vs DLH.
So who needs who again, ghetto queen? :yep
IrnBruMan
06-29-2007, 02:47 AM
Hatton can make more money filling out a stadium than Floyd could in America. the place the fight would make the most money would be Wembley in London. No question about it.
Whilst there is more money per head in America, Hatton has more fans in England than Floyd does in America. Hatton could sell 90,000. Floyd would struggle to sell 20,000 in America.
So yeah, there is a lot more money in England.
well said
Pimp C's a muppet - he sees PBF's name mentioned and jumps in feet first without stopping to think - he just opens his mouth and lets shit pour out, then goes MIA as soon as someone calls him on it.
Nothing but a bullshit artist :lol:
IrnBruMan
06-29-2007, 02:49 AM
Im still waiting for someone to break down the economics of Live Gate $ in England vs Casino money in the U.S. :huh
:lol:
Don't hold your breath - Pimp C displays similar skills to his hero when it comes to stuff like this - flood the area with bullshit and make a hasty retreat as soon as someone asks him to account for what he says :yep
IrnBruMan
06-29-2007, 02:51 AM
HUH ?
you claim nobody knows who floyd is
if thats the case why did he set a record a record in his last fight 2.15million ppvs
if floyd was a nobody then the fight would have done 1millionppvs like mayorga,tito etc
if he was a nobody why is he good friends 50 cent, why is
chauncey billups on the baldy-floyd preview show talkin about how great he is
if hes not know why are his ppvs outselling barreras,jonesjr,hopkins,cotto
why would he be goin to celeb dinners with meagan good
`:good
Because his last fight was vs DLH you dumbass :patsch
IrnBruMan
06-29-2007, 02:53 AM
You mean Pimp C didn't? Gee, he always seems to have the FACTS..:lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
ron u.k.
06-29-2007, 03:15 AM
i think overall in world boxing as a ppv star it's still probably floyd.filling a stadium however is different.if you put a floyd fight on in his own locality in a stadium i doubt there would be that much interest to anywhere near fill it.on the other hand however if you put hatton against mayweather on in manchester it would fill the 76000 capacity old trafford stadium,that could not happen for floyd in any location in the states at all.
Danny Ocean
06-29-2007, 03:23 AM
Gatti was what drew big numbers to the PBF vs Gatti fight
DLH was what drew big numbers to the PBF vs DLH fight
How does the PPV for PBF vs Judah, and PBF vs Baldomir compare to PBF vs Gatti and DLH :deal
Hatton has fans in the UK and the US - no doubt Floyd has fans in the UK, but only a fraction of Hatton's fanbase.
I would even go as far saying that Hatton has more fans in the UK than PBF has in the US :hey
:-( :-( :-( :-(
IrnBruMan
06-29-2007, 10:15 AM
:-( :-( :-( :-(
great answer :clap:
mancat
06-29-2007, 10:50 AM
Then why are none of Hatton's fights on PPV?
cortdawg25
06-29-2007, 11:28 AM
Gatti was what drew big numbers to the PBF vs Gatti fight
DLH was what drew big numbers to the PBF vs DLH fight
How does the PPV for PBF vs Judah, and PBF vs Baldomir compare to PBF vs Gatti and DLH :deal
Hatton has fans in the UK and the US - no doubt Floyd has fans in the UK, but only a fraction of Hatton's fanbase.
I would even go as far saying that Hatton has more fans in the UK than PBF has in the US :hey Floyd and Judah did more than Gatti and floyd, I guess that was because of Zab too huh? Fact is Hatton has never done a PPV here in America. If he is such a draw, why is that?
cortdawg25
06-29-2007, 11:30 AM
Hatton has had only 3 fights on U.S soil. He needs some more exposure before he is a big PPV draw. Remember, HBO PPV is a U.S based network. All of Hatton's fights besides his last 3 have been in the U.K. I wouldnt base drawing power just on PPV numbers alone. When u can sell out a 50k seat arena in a matter of hours...your a draw! When u can get 11k plus fans to follow u half a world away to watch you fight...your a draw! If he needs more exposure, then he is not a big draw. Drawing power is exposure and PPV is the stat that measures that exposure in this day and age anyways. His fans are good countrymen, not boxing fans.
El Bombasto
06-29-2007, 11:35 AM
in England
cortdawg25
06-29-2007, 12:03 PM
Thats like saying "floyd is no draw because he doesnt do good numbers on Sky Network (U.K's version of PPV). bUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE HAS NEVER ATTEMPTED TO BE ON SKY AT ALL WHILE HATTON HAS BEEN ON HBO AND THEY HAVE NOT TRIED TO PUT HIM ON PPV. WHY IS THAT? COTTO HAS GOTTEN HIS...RIGHT
Stinky gloves
06-29-2007, 12:23 PM
bUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE HAS NEVER ATTEMPTED TO BE ON SKY AT ALL WHILE HATTON HAS BEEN ON HBO AND THEY HAVE NOT TRIED TO PUT HIM ON PPV. WHY IS THAT? COTTO HAS GOTTEN HIS...RIGHT
I wonder why a few years ago Jones got agreement with HBO to not mention
Michalczewski's name during his fights, maybe beacuse HBO have its own
prioritios and fighters fighting mostly in Europe (in general outside US)
are not welcome over there?
mancat
06-29-2007, 12:46 PM
Hatton has had only 3 fights on U.S soil. He needs some more exposure before he is a big PPV draw. Remember, HBO PPV is a U.S based network. All of Hatton's fights besides his last 3 have been in the U.K. I wouldnt base drawing power just on PPV numbers alone. When u can sell out a 50k seat arena in a matter of hours...your a draw! When u can get 11k plus fans to follow u half a world away to watch you fight...your a draw!
So, are we saying the draw is the person who makes the most money (PPV), or the person who wins the popularity contest?
Well, in negotiating terms, the person who makes the most money is the draw and thus gets the lion's share of the purse. For example, everyone was screaming that Cotto was a bigger draw than Mayweather. Yet when he fought a common opponent, Judah, he only did 200,000PPV buys. Mayweather did 375,000PPV buys with Judah. Who's the bigger draw? Well objectively, Mayweather. Given his 2.15PPV dollar fight with DLH who is better known to paying customers Hatton or Mayweather? Mayweather.
A way to answer this question is to ask yourself how many PPV buys would Hatton do with Malliganagi? How Many PPv buys woul Hatton have done with the "living legend" Castillo? How many PPV buys would Hatton have done with Baldomir before Mayweather beat him? I would say much less than 200,000 on all counts. And if Hatton had or ever does fight DLH he'll do less than Mayorga and DLh (900,000PPV).
As for Hatton filling up Wembley stadium, the only person he could do it with is Mayweather. Frankly, I don't believe it would happen even if he fought Mayweather.
Finally, being a draw doesn't mean that you have the most intensely loyal fans. We live in a technological age that allows people to watch from home. The fact that Hatton has a bunch of idiots spend a months salary to fly halfway around the world to watch him fight means he inspires mucho man love in england. That's all. Hell, neither of the venues in which Hatton fought Urango or Collazo even sold out. So, if Hatton was PPV worthy, in other words a big draw, HBO would have had him on PPV already. He's not, so they haven't. And I guarantee if he doesn't fight Mayweather Hatton's next fight won't be on PPV either.
RUSKULL
06-29-2007, 12:52 PM
Is Hatton a bigger draw? In a word, YES.
audio101
06-29-2007, 01:18 PM
Has anyone gone back and rewatched the Hatton/Castillo fight? I watched it for a second time and found it impossible to get into the fight, the holding just ruins the flow of the fight. I'd always complain about how boring Mayweather is to watch, but after that match seeing Mayweather fight would be a breath of fresh air.:bbb
Tettsuo
06-29-2007, 01:19 PM
More spin and denial from u. Plain and simple: If Floyd and Hatton face off in the MGM Grand (Floyd's home town), and the crowd is 85% pro-Hatton, who's the damn draw?:smoke
Mayweather.
They're all dying to see Hatton (or anyone for that matter) beat Mayweather.
It's simple, they want to see Mayweather lose. Hatton winning isn't the reason they are there. Everyone is waiting to see who will it be to dethrone the loudmouth Floyd.
C Money
06-29-2007, 01:21 PM
In terms of loyal supporters?? ABSOLUTELY:good
From the perspective of the fight? Floyd's the favorite and the Champ "from the higher weight":lol: 47, so he's seen as the lead.
It takes two to to TANGO, and one of the MAJOR reasons PBF has now maybe altered his RETIRMENT PLAN is because this fight is ONE of the largest financial opportunities vs OTHER OPPONENTS. :good He also see's it as very winnable.
Hope they get this right, pay em both, and wherever it HAPPENS?? Its a big boxing event:happy
cortdawg25
06-29-2007, 02:05 PM
More spin and denial from u. Plain and simple: If Floyd and Hatton face off in the MGM Grand (Floyd's home town), and the crowd is 85% pro-Hatton, who's the damn draw?:smoke MGM is Floyd's hometown, that is funny!!!
More spin and denial from u. Plain and simple: If Floyd and Hatton face off in the MGM Grand (Floyd's home town), and the crowd is 85% pro-Hatton, who's the damn draw?:smoke
really says who ?? he hasn't sold anything out by his name only .. Floyd can still fight Shane , or Cotto and generate huge number .. True he will not generate these type of number with any old joe shmoe , but he is capable of generating huge number when placed with other names.
example
Floyd+Shane =Huge
Floyd+cotto= Huge
Floyd+Hatton =Huge
and depend if Margarito win his fight with William that would be another fight people would want to see ..
Anyone of the three welters weight ,shane , cotto or Margararito would be considered more credible then Hatton ..
It hatton who has limited choices no other fighter is going to generate the money he want and the name he want like Floyd.
SkillsSoSmooth
06-29-2007, 05:48 PM
No-one's got no damn evidence to suggest he could sell out Wembley, that's bias in the extreme and pure speculation, Ricky is not even that big a name in the uk, Beckham, Lewis Hamilton ect kick his ass in that department, he only get's noticed when he's close to a fight, other than that he's just another average Joe like Calzegihe!!.
And Floyd is no question the biggest draw in boxing next to Oscar, there's no doubt in my mind 'the world awaits' wouldn't have done anywhere near the numbers it did without Floyd, and that makes him a big draw, Floyd is the man of the moment right now and the haters need to somehow learn to except that :lol: .
BigReg
06-29-2007, 05:52 PM
Gatti was what drew big numbers to the PBF vs Gatti fight
DLH was what drew big numbers to the PBF vs DLH fight
How does the PPV for PBF vs Judah, and PBF vs Baldomir compare to PBF vs Gatti and DLH :deal
Hatton has fans in the UK and the US - no doubt Floyd has fans in the UK, but only a fraction of Hatton's fanbase.
I would even go as far saying that Hatton has more fans in the UK than PBF has in the US :hey
Floyd's fight with Judah put up better numbers than all of his ppv fights except the fight with Oscar. Also, if you do some research you'll see that Judah, Oscar, and Gatti all put up their best ppv numbers when the fought Floyd. People might not love Floyd like they do Oscar, and Hatton, and Gatti. However, people want to see him fight(even if they just wanna see him get knocked out) which is why he is a big draw.
fidds
06-29-2007, 06:01 PM
I just wonder how many fans would follow mayweather to england for this fight :blood
Now how many brits would follow hatton to the usa for this fight :good
Now basicly the gate would be far bigger in england then in the states as well, obviously hatton is the bigger draw.
Lets not forget he isn't arrogant, or rude he comes across as a genuinely nice guy and floyds an arsehole :thumbsup
BobDigi5060
06-29-2007, 06:04 PM
Floyd is a bigger draw.. It doesn't matter because neither man is big enough to be considered a draw on their own.
People paid for Iron Mike to watch him knock somebody the fuck out. It didn't matter who it was.
IrnBruMan
06-30-2007, 04:04 AM
Floyd and Judah did more than Gatti and floyd, I guess that was because of Zab too huh? Fact is Hatton has never done a PPV here in America. If he is such a draw, why is that?
bullshit :deal
I can't remember the exact figures, but the PPV figures diminished from Gatti fight through to the Baldomir fight.
MrSmall
06-30-2007, 06:08 AM
Everyone knows Hatton in UK.
My mum calls Mayweather Merryweather :D
Gsand
06-30-2007, 06:38 AM
My girlfriend called him Merryweather as well last night!
Snorkel
06-30-2007, 06:56 AM
As for Hatton filling up Wembley stadium, the only person he could do it with is Mayweather. Frankly, I don't believe it would happen even if he fought Mayweather.
Finally, being a draw doesn't mean that you have the most intensely loyal fans. We live in a technological age that allows people to watch from home. The fact that Hatton has a bunch of idiots spend a months salary to fly halfway around the world to watch him fight means he inspires mucho man love in england.
That's out of order, calling a huge and loyal bunch of fans 'idiots' because they choose to spend there money supporting their man.
Tencount85
06-30-2007, 08:19 AM
Hatton is a bigger draw in England. He does well here because fans from England fly over. If you ask any American who Ricky Hatton is they won't know unless they follow the sport. I know the same thing can be said about Mayweather haha, but the fight against Oscar helped him.
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