Which legacy was hurt more DLH or PBF?

[Stinky gloves]

Of course PBF won but whe won barely over the aging DLH and went to retirement after that fight.
Not mentionig his performance was far from impressive.

Of course DLH lost but he lost barely to #1 p4p and he was way past all his best times.

[Pimp C]

Of course PBF won but whe won barely over the aging DLH and went to retirement after that fight.
Not mentionig his performance was far from impressive.

Of course DLH lost but he lost barely to #1 p4p and he was way past all his best times.
Oscar's was hurt he lost to a smaller man and on his terms. He proved once again that he cant beat the elite.:deal

[Motor City Sam]

Neither guy's legacy was hurt, IMO.

[DoumB]

neither, PBF beat oscar (the name) and oscar lost while being far from it by a SD, wich proly tell u that he woulda won a fight prime for prime.

[Thread Stealer]

Neither, really.

Oscar was the underdog and is past his prime, and he put up a good competitive fight but lost.

Floyd's performance was underwhelming, but he got the job done over an aging Oscar who is still a good fighter despite being on the downside.

Floyd also is the smaller guy in there. Like Oscar @ 160, I don't really think Mayweather had much business @ 154, but that's where the big money was.

[Pimp C]

neither, PBF beat oscar (the name) and oscar lost while being far from it by a SD, wich proly tell u that he woulda won a fight prime for prime.
Not really my friend, PBF would have always beaten Oscar especially at 147.

[Marnoff]

I don't think either guy was harmed by the fight. Floyd definitely gained, considering the weight and the terms of the fight, etc.. Also, Oscar is 34, Floyd is 30, so enough about how Oscar was "way past it", and Floyd is young and fresh.

[Marnoff]

neither, PBF beat oscar (the name) and oscar lost while being far from it by a SD, wich proly tell u that he woulda won a fight prime for prime.

Not really, Oscar enjoyed probably a fifteen pound weight advantage over Floyd in the fight, since it was above Floyd's prime weights. If they fought at Lightweight, Floyd would have the power to do damage to Oscar. It's difficult to project what may have happened from what did happen.

[compukiller]

Oscar's was hurt he lost to a smaller man and on his terms. He proved once again that he cant beat the elite.:deal

Sweet Pea, Ike Quartey, JCC, Mosley (he won that 2nd fight), Quartey aren't elite??

[Pimp C]

Sweet Pea, Ike Quartey, JCC, Mosley (he won that 2nd fight), Quartey aren't elite??
He didn't beat Mosley. He got gifts in the Pea and Ike fights IMO and JCC was done when he fought Oscar.

[DoumB]

Not really my friend, PBF would have always beaten Oscar especially at 147.

hmm I thin on that one your far off Pimp, at 147 DLH was a beast and at 140 was the same, at 147 he oculd move used his jab ( wich was his best weapon) and was pretty damn fast and had a better stamina, at 140 was the exact same thing and he was huge, at 130-135 I give the ede to floyd but over that Oscar is simply too skilled and big for floyd in my eyes(prime for prime) we've seen what a slow flat footed oscar was able to do with floyd, imagine the bouncing oscar now

[compukiller]

He didn't beat Mosley. He got gifts in the Pea and Ike fights IMO and JCC was done when he fought Oscar.


JCC was 34 when Oscar fought him, the exact age DLH was when Mayweather fought him. The Pea and Quartey fights were close, but he got the decisions. They were not Gifts.

And he kicked Mosley's ass the 2nd time, even Mosley knew that.

[Pimp C]

JCC was 34 when Oscar fought him, the exact age DLH was when Mayweather fought him. The Pea and Quartey fights were close, but he got the decisions. They were not Gifts.

And he kicked Mosley's ass the 2nd time, even Mosley knew that.
You can't compare a 34 year old JCC to a 34 year old Oscar two different styles and one had way more fights. JCC had over 80 fights and is a blood and guts type of fighter and Oscar isn't, he never took the type of punishment JCC took in his career.

[compukiller]

You can't compare a 34 year old JCC to a 34 year old Oscar two different styles and one had way more fights. JCC had over 80 fights and is a blood and guts type of fighter and Oscar isn't, he never took the type of punishment JCC took in his career.

JCC was champ when Oscar fought him and he dominated him like no other. True, JCC had more fights, but Oscar has been quite inactive and is the older fighter when PBF fought him. Oscar has had his fair share of wars as well, while most of the guys that JCC fought were cab drivers (he did fight and beat elite fighters, but you get what I'm saying).

If Oscar did not fight JCC, everyone would have said he ducked him. Just like if PBF skipped over DLH, he would have been accused of ducking him as well.

And it's funny how Oscar is the only top fighter who has his ENTIRE record called into question and is held to a higher standard than everyone else.

That's like me saying all PBF did was beat a DLH damaged Hernandez, a totally shot and weight drained Gatti, a shot and old Sharmba Mitchell, a Baldo damaged Zab, and an old, inactive, DLH. He also recvied a gift against Castillo and ran in the castillo rematch and the Baldo fight.

Ridiculous? Yes, but you get the point.

[Pimp C]

JCC was champ when Oscar fought him and he dominated him like no other. True, JCC had more fights, but Oscar has been quite inactive and is the older fighter when PBF fought him. Oscar has had his fair share of wars as well, while most of the guys that JCC fought were cab drivers (he did fight and beat elite fighters, but you get what I'm saying).

If Oscar did not fight JCC, everyone would have said he ducked him. Just like if PBF skipped over DLH, he would have been accused of ducking him as well.

And it's funny how Oscar is the only top fighter who has his ENTIRE record called into question and is held to a higher standard than everyone else.

That's like me saying all PBF did was beat a DLH damaged Hernandez, a totally shot and weight drained Gatti, a shot and old Sharmba Mitchell, a Baldo damaged Zab, and an old, inactive, DLH. He also recvied a gift against Castillo and ran in the castillo rematch and the Baldo fight.

Ridiculous? Yes, but you get the point.
Fair enough.:good

[compukiller]

Fair enough.:good

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And I look forward to seeing PBF slice hatton to shreds, although I wsih he would go at Shane first.

[omega dega Doom]

this fight did nothing to hurt Hoya's legacy because of who he lost to(PBF) and the fact that he was a little past his prime and lost a split decision(although it's funny how a week later Cory spinks fight a near indentical fight but loses it and all the so-called expert's claim you can't "beat the champ" without engaging in an actual fight?) Boxing's politics are still just BS!!!! until this fight all PBF has fought was either "has been's" or "wanna be's" never a superfight until Hoya! but a "past-his-prime" Hoya my questions is why does he continuely go around or "outprice" or "talk his way out of" a fight with Sugar Shane Mosley??? thats the fight the PUBLIC should demand!!!:bbb for PBF to even become a legend(he has not done enough to earn it yet(unless you are on his nuthugger club then you don't think so but) he will have to at least fight and beat Haton,Cotto,margarito,Cintron and williams and he should first fight Mosley but he is not ready to lose yet so he will dance around that fight!:nono

[Imperial1]

I don't think this makes or breaks Oscar his legacy was cemented long before Mayweather ..All he did was give up a few pts ..Meanwhile for Mayweather he still needs his legacy a little more polished considering how he won ..Right now his accolades in the divisons he captured titles in gets him in the HOF ..But who will he be ranked over ? Another solid win leaves very little up for debate ..

[platnumpapi]

Of course PBF won but whe won barely over the aging DLH and went to retirement after that fight.
Not mentionig his performance was far from impressive.

Of course DLH lost but he lost barely to #1 p4p and he was way past all his best times.

he won the fight hands down it was the judges that made it closer then what it really was.neither fighter legacy was hurt, pbf was told he never fought anyone and he fought the legend in oscar.oscar is credited for fighting the best in his era and he just went toe to toe with the p4p king.

it all depnds on how you look at the fight and thats how i looked at it.pbf made about 25 million and odh 50 million.man them boys got payed and there legacy is straight dawg ;)

[omega dega Doom]

True. The Oscarsexuals can paint the turd of his loss all kinds of shades of gold, but in the end, he had loss number 5 given to him by yet another Superior Black Athlete. Maybe he needs to grant Yori Boy a rematch so he can get a "W" in the won loss column. oh god please tell me your J/K right? Oscar went into this Boxing match to actually FIGHT! he was not prepared to play tag? whatever happened to the old rule of thumb, where a challenger had to take the title from the champ but either Knocking the champ out or at least dominating him? that was not a "FIGHT" but more like a game of "Hide and seek":roll:

[DoumB]

True. The Oscarsexuals can paint the turd of his loss all kinds of shades of gold, but in the end, he had loss number 5 given to him by yet another Superior Black Athlete. Maybe he needs to grant Yori Boy a rematch so he can get a "W" in the won loss column.

are u a superior black athlete jack?

[Relentless]

no his mommys new friend is.

[Thread Stealer]

whatever happened to the old rule of thumb, where a challenger had to take the title from the champ but either Knocking the champ out or at least dominating him?


It's a myth. An unwritten rule, but plenty of fighters have lost titles on close decisions or fights in which they were not dominated.

[Thread Stealer]

neither, PBF beat oscar (the name) and oscar lost while being far from it by a SD, wich proly tell u that he woulda won a fight prime for prime.

No it doesn't. Mayweather really has no business @ 154. We've seen what happens when you can move up too much in weight. Look at Oscar @ 160.

130-35: Mayweather
140: Pick-em
147: Oscar

Actually 135 is pretty tough to call as well. Floyd is more experienced though by the time he got to 135, although he was way less dominant there than Oscar was.

Maybe 135 is more of a pick-em than 140. Doesn't really matter, mythical matchups aren't that important to legacies and all-time standings IMO.