View Full Version : Abraham wants Pavlik vs Taylor II winner!
Vincent Gottschalk
10-29-2007, 01:21 PM
His promoter says that after the Elock fight Abraham is coming to America looking to fight Pavlik or Taylor:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy
JETSKI
10-29-2007, 01:33 PM
His promoter says that after the Elock fight Abraham is coming to America looking to fight Pavlik or Taylor:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy
He better come to the USA to fight Pavlik. KP will destroy this no skill chump. Finally, an ez fight for Kelly.
Better and better matches coming up for the Middleweight division.
Sinew
10-29-2007, 01:41 PM
Back to back, to back ; ko's.
Tom_Tocca
10-29-2007, 01:53 PM
I hope they will fulfill their promise and bring AA to the US - I've been waiting for nearly a year now...
MrStayman
10-29-2007, 01:59 PM
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AA is overrated imho, protected with a couple of dubious decisions. Howard Eastman shoulda got the decision, and Miranda should have got the TKO. Typical German hometown decisions really. And he is fighting Wayne Elcock, which is a joke really. Pavlik or Taylor beats him easily, especially Pavlik who I reckon would take him out in 6
MrStayman
10-29-2007, 02:02 PM
AA is overrated imho, protected with a couple of dubious decisions. Howard Eastman shoulda got the decision, and Miranda should have got the TKO. Typical German hometown decisions really. And he is fighting Wayne Elcock, which is a joke really. Pavlik or Taylor beats him easily, especially Pavlik who I reckon would take him out in 6Well, it looks like we'll finally find out whether or not this is true ;)
Well, it looks like we'll finally find out whether or not this is true ;)
Doubt it tbh, cant see AA handlers letting him in the ring with Pavlik. Taylor though - maybe.
brooklyn1550
10-29-2007, 03:10 PM
Great news if his handlers let him fight either one of them
Pure grade A bulls!t. AA doesn't want to get anywhere near Pavlik and neither do his handlers.
He wouldn't have said this if he didn't, if Pavlik wins the rematch then expect this fight to happen.
DanePugilist
10-29-2007, 03:15 PM
I think AA would beat both, and I think he should face both also.
ralphc
10-29-2007, 03:16 PM
His promoter says that after the Elock fight Abraham is coming to America looking to fight Pavlik or Taylor:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy
What he really wants is Pavlik to KO Taylor again. That will set up the unification bout and the biggest money fight that the middleweight division has had in years.
Dorfmeister
10-29-2007, 03:19 PM
I have no single doubt that Arthur Abraham would embarass Kelly Pavlik technically but not the way he covers himself on the ropes like against Khoren Gevor - Miranda and Taylor are the living proof that you gat to box this guy off you and away from the ropes and the corners.
JETSKI
10-29-2007, 03:34 PM
I have no single doubt that Arthur Abraham would embarass Kelly Pavlik technically but not the way he covers himself on the ropes like against Khoren Gevor - Miranda and Taylor are the living proof that you gat to box this guy off you and away from the ropes and the corners.
AA has no technique, Dorkmeister.:yep
Dorfmeister
10-29-2007, 03:42 PM
AA has no technique, Dorkmeister.:yep
That is not what his record and performances indicate but if you are also suggesting that he's been given gifts in Mother Land, then AA may want to finish his career and win some money in the States and that is just hardly believable. I would assume that there must be something wrong with your (k)eyboard but then you could have not writen your own nickname and Kelly Pavlik right, would you? Let's keep it that way, JETSKI.
Boro chris
10-29-2007, 03:48 PM
Pure grade A bulls!t. AA doesn't want to get anywhere near Pavlik and neither do his handlers.
If that was the case he'd have kept quite like Sturm is at the moment. Why draw attention to yourself if your trying to duck somone?
I think AA is looking for a big payday imo.
curmudgeon
10-29-2007, 03:57 PM
Howard Eastman shoulda got the decision,
B.S. First grade B.S.
Vincent Gottschalk
10-29-2007, 04:02 PM
I heard that Abraham wants to fight here in the USA in March with Pavlik vs Taylor in Feb with some luck we will have Pavlik vs Abraham in June:good
brooklyn1550
10-29-2007, 04:04 PM
I have no single doubt that Arthur Abraham would embarass Kelly Pavlik technically but not the way he covers himself on the ropes like against Khoren Gevor - Miranda and Taylor are the living proof that you gat to box this guy off you and away from the ropes and the corners.
He would absolutely not embarass Pavlik technically. Pavlik is taller and longer. His jab comes out more often and it would reach the target first. Pavlik also throws the straighter shots.
Tom_Tocca
10-29-2007, 04:04 PM
I think we all should be quite happy IF AA crosses the pond to make a big middleweight fight happen...this is only a good sign/step for boxing for a world wide fight hype...
Dorfmeister
10-29-2007, 04:24 PM
He would absolutely not embarass Pavlik technically. Pavlik is taller and longer. His jab comes out more often and it would reach the target first. Pavlik also throws the straighter shots.
Pavlik has tons of courage to fight the same way against every single opponent, no matter who he is. He stretches his arms longurously and walks like he's draggin a steel ball and chains across the floor, just check how he was caught against Taylor by a left jab which distorted his face in the second round... AA is technically mature, mobile, has dimensions and has been using this assets to win fights such as against Miranda with a broken jaw. So if anyone believes that I like AA and dislike KP, they're perfectly entitled to, I say that AA would win a comfortable points decision against KP.
MrStayman
10-29-2007, 05:08 PM
Let's remember that Jermain Taylor, who outboxed (or at least held his ground against) Cory Spinks, Winky Wright, and BHop, did not embarrass Pavlik technically. There is no way that Abraham will do this.
However, Abraham will be an interesting puzzle for Pavlik, as he presents a combination of strength, flurrying, and defense that Pavlik has not yet encountered.
perfume
10-29-2007, 08:00 PM
Let's remember that Jermain Taylor, who outboxed (or at least held his ground against) Cory Spinks, Winky Wright, and BHop, did not embarrass Pavlik technically. There is no way that Abraham will do this.
However, Abraham will be an interesting puzzle for Pavlik, as he presents a combination of strength, flurrying, and defense that Pavlik has not yet encountered.
Taylor outbox, dropped, outboxed and was WINNING ON ALL THREE SCORECARDS against Asslik before he was KTFO by a lucky punch and the referee inability to give the champion the benefit of the doubt. Taylor will beat Casper "jab, jab, right hand" behind in the rematchand put an end to this, this pipe dream that Arum, Loew, Duncan and Mike Sr have you believing. Asslik chin is made of cotton and he will be DROPPED everytime he fights an ELITE fighter (and I don't mean $5.25 an hour housemaids from Nicauraga who he's been using to pad his record)
Abraham has DEFENSE, GOOD FOOTWORK, MOVES HIS GODDAM HEAD and has a proven chin...qualities that this stupid Youngtown moron refuses to obtain. Abraham has never been down, had a broken jaw and still fought like a warrior....Casper has been dropped 3 times by journeymen.....JOURNEYMEN.....Give me any 160 lb champion from the last 10 years that have any journeymen dropping them on their record.
If Taylor didn't exercise his rematch clause Asslik would have fought the DUD...what a phucking joke....and then who knows, maybe Mora.
Say what you want about Taylor, his title defenses has been against elite comp while Casper wanted to fight the DUD!!!
Asslik will be exposed in his next 3 fights!!!
Abraham shouldn't give Asslik the payday.
Goose
10-29-2007, 08:07 PM
Its not gonna be easy to KO Abraham, the guy fought 7 rounds with a broken jaw and didnt quit. Pavlik is a tall guy and he will be right there to be hit by Abraham, who has one of the strongest left hooks out there.
Its a great match up and most probably will be an action-packed fight, where Pavlik will likely get knocked out.
If its gonna be Taylor to fight Abraham, then Taylor has a better chance of outboxing and outworking Arthur. I would pick Taylor to win by UD.
MrStayman
10-29-2007, 08:38 PM
Taylor outbox, dropped, outboxed and was WINNING ON ALL THREE SCORECARDS against Asslik before he was KTFO by a lucky punch and the referee inability to give the champion the benefit of the doubt. Taylor will beat Casper "jab, jab, right hand" behind in the rematchand put an end to this, this pipe dream that Arum, Loew, Duncan and Mike Sr have you believing. Asslik chin is made of cotton and he will be DROPPED everytime he fights an ELITE fighter (and I don't mean $5.25 an hour housemaids from Nicauraga who he's been using to pad his record)
Abraham has DEFENSE, GOOD FOOTWORK, MOVES HIS GODDAM HEAD and has a proven chin...qualities that this stupid Youngtown moron refuses to obtain. Abraham has never been down, had a broken jaw and still fought like a warrior....Casper has been dropped 3 times by journeymen.....JOURNEYMEN.....Give me any 160 lb champion from the last 10 years that have any journeymen dropping them on their record.
If Taylor didn't exercise his rematch clause Asslik would have fought the DUD...what a phucking joke....and then who knows, maybe Mora.
Say what you want about Taylor, his title defenses has been against elite comp while Casper wanted to fight the DUD!!!
Asslik will be exposed in his next 3 fights!!!
Abraham shouldn't give Asslik the payday.- I've got to hand it to you, that is a GREAT avatar. Fits your rhetoric nicely. I may even put it on myself one day.
- You imply that Pavlik will get knocked out if he ever faces an elite fighter. But, in previous posts you have called Taylor elite.
- Asslik is too far away from Pavlik to be an effective insult.
- Arthur Abraham does not move his head
- You point out that the referee didn't give Taylor a count. This doesn't help your argument since Taylor would not have gotten up anyway - he was literally unconscious for about 20 seconds.
- Even if Taylor wins the rematch, Pavlik retains his belts, so it will not "put an end to this pipe dream"
- Hopkins got knocked down twice by journeyman Segundo Mercado
- For a middleweight title defense, Duddy is no worse than Ouma
JETSKI
10-29-2007, 08:51 PM
- I've got to hand it to you, that is a GREAT avatar. Fits your rhetoric nicely. I may even put it on myself one day.
- You imply that Pavlik will get knocked out if he ever faces an elite fighter. But, in previous posts you have called Taylor elite.
- Asslik is too far away from Pavlik to be an effective insult.
- Arthur Abraham does not move his head
- You point out that the referee didn't give Taylor a count. This doesn't help your argument since Taylor would not have gotten up anyway - he was literally unconscious for about 20 seconds.
- Even if Taylor wins the rematch, Pavlik retains his belts, so it will not "put an end to this pipe dream"
- Hopkins got knocked down twice by journeyman Segundo Mercado
- For a middleweight title defense, Duddy is no worse than Ouma
That idiot (perfume) you responded to is a complete ASSWIPE! And I will not even give him the satisfaction of telling him just how stupid that hate filled post was directly.
You did a good enough job, MrStayman. I can't understand how any fight fan, who actually knows boxing, could not like what we've seen in Pavlik the last few years, especially in 2007.
The fool must be racist.
Maxime
10-29-2007, 11:50 PM
If he wants that fight then he should do something to deserve it. Fighting easy fights after easy fights isn't going to cut it.
perfume
10-30-2007, 12:03 AM
- I've got to hand it to you, that is a GREAT avatar. Fits your rhetoric nicely. I may even put it on myself one day.
Feel free to use it, it shows Casper doing the watoosy
- You imply that Pavlik will get knocked out if he ever faces an elite fighter. But, in previous posts you have called Taylor elite.
He is Elite, that doesn't change because you lose.
- Asslik is too far away from Pavlik to be an effective insult.
Your opinion and you are entitled to it, I like it just fine.
- Arthur Abraham does not move his head
Yes he does, you missed a fight or two
- You point out that the referee didn't give Taylor a count. This doesn't help your argument since Taylor would not have gotten up anyway - he was literally unconscious for about 20 seconds.
Your opinion, I show differently and the champion should get the benefit of the doubt
- Even if Taylor wins the rematch, Pavlik retains his belts, so it will not "put an end to this pipe dream"
Yes it does, because he will have loss plus it will show hall his fans that he can't box and his power can't always bail him out. Learn to box Kelly!
- Hopkins got knocked down twice by journeyman Segundo Mercado
I said in the last 10 years.....that happen in 1996 plus did you actually see it. I've seen all of Asslik knockdown, my personal favorite is my avatar!!!
- For a middleweight title defense, Duddy is no worse than Ouma
Get the phuck out of here, Ouma resume is better then the DUD who went life and death with Yory phucking Boy Campus...Plus Ouma is a former WORLD champion, the DUD is not!!!
On a side note, A yo Jetski, didn't the guy in you avatar get knockout by a blind man in 52 second. Way to go in choosing your heroes. (or losers!!!)
brooklyn1550
10-30-2007, 12:07 AM
If you want to speak about other people's avatars, why don't you use one of Taylor slumped on the canvass?
brooklyn1550
10-30-2007, 12:09 AM
And Kelly can box you idiot - he was outjabbing Taylor
MrStayman
10-30-2007, 12:10 AM
And Kelly can box you idiot - he was outjabbing TaylorPerfume's response will be that Taylor was up on all the scorecards. He needs some new material!
brooklyn1550
10-30-2007, 12:11 AM
Perfume's response will be that Taylor was up on all the scorecards. He needs some new material!
He literally picks 10-12 middleweights to beat Pavlik. He's a joke...
RealIzm
10-30-2007, 12:20 AM
I think everyone should know by now that perfume is to be ignored. I'm sure he cried when Taylor was put to sleep and I'm sure he's still crying. Well its a little laughter in the midst of a real boxing discussion.
brooklyn1550
10-30-2007, 12:29 AM
Pavlik would beat Abraham
drvooh
10-30-2007, 12:39 AM
He wouldn't have said this if he didn't, if Pavlik wins the rematch then expect this fight to happen. And if taylor wins, will AA try him??
I think taylor would school AA ..
Jose FM
10-30-2007, 01:15 AM
AA wants nothing to do with Pavlik, its BS to save face, if it does happen AA would get KTFO.
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