ibragimov is the best and will be the undisputed champion

[ibragimovfan]

Sultan Ibragimov Is Insanely underrated. He Is Undefeated And Has An Insane Left Hand He Got Robbed Of A Win Against Austin, And He Soundly Defeated Briggs Who Was A Quality Fighter. He Will Beat Ruslan. And After That He Will Beat Either Maskaev Or Wlad. Its A Fact!

[H .]

Do you mean underrated? :huh

[Tom_Tocca]

You said it...he IS extremely overrated...

Na, just joking...but Chagaev has the better chin and jab and therefore will win this bout - Chagaev KO9.

[ibragimovfan]

ya that was a mistake. i see sultan putting chagaev to sleep with his left hand

[vonBanditos]

I'd rather you tell me that he performed poorly against Austin, because if you're happy with that fight and think it was just a robbery then I'm not sure I can really go along with your train of thought.

[Caper]

Sultan Ibragimov Is Insanely underrated. He Is Undefeated And Has An Insane Left Hand He Got Robbed Of A Win Against Austin, And He Soundly Defeated Briggs Who Was A Quality Fighter. He Will Beat Ruslan. And After That He Will Beat Either Maskaev Or Wlad. Its A Fact!

Wlad wound crush Sultan :!:

[Kostya Zoo]

Sultan Ibragimov Is Insanely underrated. He Is Undefeated And Has An Insane Left Hand He Got Robbed Of A Win Against Austin, And He Soundly Defeated Briggs Who Was A Quality Fighter. He Will Beat Ruslan. And After That He Will Beat Either Maskaev Or Wlad. Its A Fact!

Are you the reincarnate of that KO by Briggs idiot?

[Caper]

Are you the reincarnate of that KO by Briggs idiot?

He converted he's now on the Sultan bandwagon but I'm sure Wlad has the tools to derail it.

[KillerInstinct]

Sultan Ibragimov Is Insanely underrated. He Is Undefeated And Has An Insane Left Hand He Got Robbed Of A Win Against Austin, And He Soundly Defeated Briggs Who Was A Quality Fighter. He Will Beat Ruslan. And After That He Will Beat Either Maskaev Or Wlad. Its A Fact!

Got robbed of a win against Austin? Hah! He is lucky he got the draw, I had Austin winning that fight by 1 point. Granted Ibragimov was in the worst shape of his career, I think it's obvious you haven't even seen that fight.

[Shpion]

I'd rather you tell me that he performed poorly against Austin, because if you're happy with that fight and think it was just a robbery then I'm not sure I can really go along with your train of thought.

No doubt. He sucked against that bum.

[FlatNose]

Sultan is slow, soft looking, pudgy, can't punch that hard and couldn't even beat the pathetic Ray Austin.He is one of the erratic, mediocre Russians (or former Soviets) who are relativly successful beacause there really aren't any decent heavyweights around today.Ruslan is considerably less ordinary than Sultan so probably Chagaev will win in a fight that will ultimatly prove absoloutly nothing.

[Kostya Zoo]

...who are relativly successful beacause there really aren't any decent heavyweights around today.

There's actually a lot of decent heavyweights around today, you just don't want to believe it. There have been much worse periods in heavyweight history.

[ibragimovfan]

he was in bad shape against austin but i dont know why noone will give him credit for dismantling briggs. the guy is good and he's got heart

[Shpion]

he was in bad shape against austin but i dont know why noone will give him credit for dismantling briggs. the guy is good and he's got heart

You just answered to yourself. Good does not mean the best.

[Armo_Ruski]

i like sultan but i feel the very underrated boxer here is chagaev

[Kostya Zoo]

i like sultan but i feel the very underrated boxer here is chagaev

I think its because no one seen him fight

[geppy]

Sure, the Sultan vs Briggs fight was not as action packed as some would like. But Sultan did box impressively in and out ,while not getting hit and landing. Sultan displayed good handspeed and footspeed.

Can you blaim Sultan for not being any more agressive than he had to? Sultan was fighting a massive, steroid ridden, fucking idiot with one punch power. Sultan could of made one mistake and been caught.

[KobeIsGod]

sultan is a solid fighter with some definite upside. I underrated him a smidge against briggs but i think he could stand to lose 10-15 pounds. IMO, Wlad and Vitali steamroll him. I just dont think he has the firepower and/or rock solid chin to keep them honest. Peter, Ruslan, Oleg, Brock, Byrd, Lamon, Alexander would be pick'em. Everyone else he should handle including Valuev and Ruiz.

[RAMPAGE0017]

I've only seen his fight with Briggs, and his first round KO over Javier Mora on YouTube, based on that, I'm pretty impressed with his skills. He's quick handed, crafty, and his punches look pretty hard. But the fact that he fought to a draw with Ray Austin kind've makes me scratch my head, but I guess it's entirely possible that he just had a bad night. All in all, he should give Chagaev a run for his money, but I don't think he'll be able to beat him.

[RAMPAGE0017]

i like sultan but i feel the very underrated boxer here is chagaev


I couldn't agree more. By all rights, Chagaev, IMO, is ATLEAST #2 heavyweight in the world, right now. He's accomplished more than Samuel Peter, yet everybody seems to think that Peter is the best thing since blowjobs. And if he unifies, I'll be questioning whether Wladimir still deserves to looked upon as #1.

[Lacyace]

I am not at all impressed by Ibragimov. I really think Chagaev is going to handle him easily. Chagaev has a much better chance at becoming undisputed.


By all rights, Chagaev, IMO, is ATLEAST #2 heavyweight in the world, right now


True. Chagaev should be ahead of Peter in Ring's rankings.

[justaboxingfan]

The only HW who has a shot at becoming unified is Wlad. The man is head and shoulders above any current HW. no pun

[Alcaldemb]

I couldn't agree more. By all rights, Chagaev, IMO, is ATLEAST #2 heavyweight in the world, right now. He's accomplished more than Samuel Peter, yet everybody seems to think that Peter is the best thing since blowjobs. And if he unifies, I'll be questioning whether Wladimir still deserves to looked upon as #1.

Believe me you aren't alone. Peter's claim to fame is beating Toney, which now seems like a very mediocre accomplishment. Chagaev arguably has the second best resume with wins over Valuev, Virchis and Ruiz, two of those men being in The Ring's top ten with one of them, Ruiz, only exiting it about two weeks ago. The Ring's ratings make very little sense as they don't seem to really take accomplishments into account. The winner of Chagaev vs Ibragimov should be universally recognized as the number two heavy, and possibly the number one.

[Mohak]

I've been on the Sultan bandwagon since 2004. I'm not jumping off now.

GO SULTAN!!!!!

[Alcaldemb]

i say it should be a tie with the winner IF Wlad does get by Brewster.
If Brewster wins then obviously the winner is the #1

I can agree to that. It is truly amazing how underrated Chagaev is. He is smart, strong, has a solid chin and punch, great skill and stamina. However people still lavish Sam Peter with praise and for what reason I really don't know.

[Loufatski]

What's the point discussing this when Wlad is a better fighter than both of these guys? ... and I've got nothing to do with Wlad's nutsack.

[Heavyrighthand]

The winner of Chagaev and Sultan will certianly be the best heavyweight on the planet, as far as credentials, record, and titles go. That is without question.

But we all saw how Wlad steemrolled through Byrd, Brock, and Austin. He destroyed all three like they were not even there. And those destoryer type wins are certainly more decisive and concrete, than what Chag did against Valuev, and what Sultan did against Briggs. Wlad also handily took Peter's best shots, got back up and went on to beat Peter, and even rocked him on bended knee in the last round.

That said, the Chag Sultan winner will be the best heavyweight on paper, but we all know that Wlad is better than either of these guys, and will prove it, given the chance.

[Heavyrighthand]

Now as for taking Peter's best shots. I don't think he really took Peter's best shots.
.

Well, I guess I gotta agree.

He didn't really take his best shots, as that implies that he was hardly affected by them. He WAS affected by them, although most of the KD shots were to the back of the noggin. :blood (but if Wlad was turning his head as Peter was throwing, what do you expect?)

Anyway, let's just say that Wlad weathered Peter's best shots. And I think he did.

Peter landed, F L U S H on at least five occasions in that fight. And these were instances in which Wlad didn't fall. go back and watch the fight and keep a count of the times he nailed Wlad, flush, and he didn't fall. At least five times.

So he did weather his best shots, and I would say that that is impressive, when the punchers is someone with Peter's reputation as being a Conanesque destroyer.

[RUSKULL]

Sultan is slow, soft looking, pudgy, can't punch that hard and couldn't even beat the pathetic Ray Austin.He is one of the erratic, mediocre Russians (or former Soviets) who are relativly successful beacause there really aren't any decent heavyweights around today.Ruslan is considerably less ordinary than Sultan so probably Chagaev will win in a fight that will ultimatly prove absoloutly nothing.

That's a pretty negative outlook you have there bud......................I, for one, have seen some fairly good HW action lately with more on the horizon. Let's just say we're better off now than when Ruiz & Byrd held 2 of the belts.

[RUSKULL]

There's actually a lot of decent heavyweights around today, you just don't want to believe it. There have been much worse periods in heavyweight history.

Exactly. :deal

[Vantage_West]

Wlad wound crush Sultan :!:doesnt matter wlad aint fighting anybody worth the championship crown

[Vantage_West]

That's a pretty negative outlook you have there bud......................I, for one, have seen some fairly good HW action lately with more on the horizon. Let's just say we're better off now than when Ruiz & Byrd held 2 of the belts.
whats wrong with byrd he wasnt a puncher but he is a natural super middleweight it gives him alot of excuses. good workrate alwasy punching. great fighter very tricky to fight

[Hooldum]

Ibragimov on top level has one problem. He is small heavy, and his power is not that good at the top level. However he can be busy with Ruslan and at best it will give him a draw. Against Wlad, Sultan will lose. He just too small for Wlad and again have no power to KO Wlad.

[ibragimovfan]

dude he just beat shannon fucking briggs he proved he can beat the bigger guys briggs is made out of granite it looks like and hes 6'4 275 and sultan still whipped that ass

[theunderdog]

i do think he is underrated but you're overrating him. let him prove himself in his next few matches before you call him the best

[In_FlaMeS]

This a very interesting fight... I'm with Ibragimov :thumbsup

[andyZOR]

You said it...he IS extremely overrated...

Na, just joking...but Chagaev has the better chin and jab and therefore will win this bout - Chagaev KO9.

Agreed.

[Kostya Zoo]

Shannon Briggs obviously didn't come to fight that night, its known that he has asthma, and he looked in poor condition during that fight. Now i'm not downing Ibragimov as a fighter, but that fight proved nothing to me. Briggs just stood there, and honestly i think a Briggs in good shape would beat Ibragimov.

As for Ibragimov-Chageav im going with Ibragimov.

but Briggs in good shape doesn't exist anymore and hasn't for almost 10 years.

[flem1]

Shannon Briggs obviously didn't come to fight that night, its known that he has asthma, and he looked in poor condition during that fight. Now i'm not downing Ibragimov as a fighter, but that fight proved nothing to me. Briggs just stood there, and honestly i think a Briggs in good shape would beat Ibragimov.

As for Ibragimov-Chageav im going with Ibragimov.

Yeah, to me Briggs was in even worse condition and it's quite obvious he wasn't 100%...

[fightking12]

i dont think Sultan will be the one that unify the belts. Chagaev should be the one that does it

[psychopath]

Sultan Ibragimov Is Insanely underrated. He Is Undefeated And Has An Insane Left Hand He Got Robbed Of A Win Against Austin, And He Soundly Defeated Briggs Who Was A Quality Fighter. He Will Beat Ruslan. And After That He Will Beat Either Maskaev Or Wlad. Its A Fact!

Yeah sure . . . who would argue regarding Ibragimov against a poster who's handle is ibragimovfan? :deal

:smh

:desk :rofl :happy

[Rudolph]

Why, if you painted him black no one would tell the difference

[Bigcat]

Briggs was a very stationary target.. Ibragimov did what he had to do but never set the world alight yet.. He is however amongst the most dedicated boxers on the planet today.. That makeshim a better prospective longtime champ than some of the past holders.. Chin is another question.. He has been dropped a couple of times but always gets up and soldiers on, his heart seems ok.. The fact that acts inhisfavour amidst all of this is his willingness to Unify... That shows a rare attribute, the spirit to aspire and get to a higher place.. Sultan is hungry.. I admire that...

[Odo]

Sultan Ibragimov Is Insanely underrated. He Is Undefeated And Has An Insane Left Hand He Got Robbed Of A Win Against Austin, And He Soundly Defeated Briggs Who Was A Quality Fighter. He Will Beat Ruslan. And After That He Will Beat Either Maskaev Or Wlad. Its A Fact!


Sultan is totally overrated IMO.He is the weakest of the four present champs.
Not only did he draw with Austin ,but he went the full route with Osokin as well.What's more he didnt look very impressive against Briggs.
Chagaev is the better fight record.Thats for sure.Moreover,he has much more pop in his fists.
I know that cross comparisons dont mean that much.Nevertheless makes me think that Sultan drawed with Austin who had a bloody close fight with Sedrick Fields who had knocked him down and seemed to be on the way to win a point decision against Austin.
Chagaev brutally knocked Fields out in their encounter about 2 years ago.
I favour Chagaev over Sultan.

[oblate]

Sultan Ibragimov Is Insanely underrated. He Is Undefeated And Has An Insane Left Hand He Got Robbed Of A Win Against Austin, And He Soundly Defeated Briggs Who Was A Quality Fighter. He Will Beat Ruslan. And After That He Will Beat Either Maskaev Or Wlad. Its A Fact!
i'm an imbragimov fan but that draw was fair against austin. ibragimov is really good but i think wlad would beat him.

[Alcaldemb]

Sultan is totally overrated IMO.He is the weakest of the four present champs.
Not only did he draw with Austin ,but he went the full route with Osokin as well.What's more he didnt look very impressive against Briggs.
Chagaev is the better fight record.Thats for sure.Moreover,he has much more pop in his fists.
I know that cross comparisons dont mean that much.Nevertheless makes me think that Sultan drawed with Austin who had a bloody close fight with Sedrick Fields who had knocked him down and seemed to be on the way to win a point decision against Austin.
Chagaev brutally knocked Fields out in their encounter about 2 years ago.
I favour Chagaev over Sultan.

To be fair I put Sultan and Oleg in the same boat as far as being weak. But yes I agree with you about Ruslan beating Sultan.

[Butch Coolidge]

IMO Oleg Maskaev is the most limited of the current beltholders. Maskaev is strong and experienced but he seems so slow and he's also kind of old for boxing, plus he's been KOed by journeymen.

Chagaev is impressive to a degree. He handled Ruiz and Valuev fairly well and he racked up a lot of wins in significant amatuer tournaments. He has basically a counterpunching style that relies heavily on answering a left jab with his own southpaw overhand left, wicked stuff alright except Ibragimov doesn't have a left jab.

Klitschko is big, powerful, fast. accuracte puncher,experienced and so forth but his worst defeat came at the from a southpaw with fast hands and a hard punch. Plus the big Ukrainian has some scar tissue around his eyes that could be opened up by Ibragimov's old school punching technique, pronating the fist as it lands on his opponent's face.

How does Ibragimov fit into all this? Well he gives fans of old school boxing something to cheer about. Fast,High workrate, goes to the body, takes a hard shot and comes right back with bad intentions. Plus, he's not particularly big, okay six feet one inch, two-twenty lbs isn't small but compared to Klitschko...and Ibragimov doesn't have the physique of some artistic masterpiece of an Italian sculpture. Ibragimov has a tall order in unifying the heavyweight title. I can't say that I favour him as the one to do it but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.

To sum it all up, the current era of heavyweights could actually be one of the better heavyweight epochs providing the top heavyweights fight each other and Chagaev vs Ibragimov is a definite step in the right direction.

[Goose]

Maskaev gets little credit for what he's done to Rahman, who before that beat Toney, and knocked out Meehan, who beat up Brewster, who in turn beat Wlad...the currently number 1 ranked heavyweight.

How about that...Maskaev is da man, although he has almost no chance against Peter.