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xoborp
06-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Did anybody see Gomez fight on sunday in wigan? if not let me tell you now that he will be right bac into the equasion in the next 4 months, he looked a little rusty in the first round, but only because the guy he was fighting never stopped running literally!!!
My prerdiction for gomez in the next twelvw months, tempts alex arthur into another war and bangs him out in eight, then Amir Khan KO in 5.
i have known Gomez since he was 10 years of age, and believe you me he looks absolutely fantastic, is serious again, and he will prove all of the doubters wrong once again, the only thing that will stop Gomez is Frank ******, saying that if i was ******, i wouldnt want Gomez anytwhere near my fighters, after all ****** has invested too much in these two recently only for Gomez to come and ruin things for him again...:patsch
Too much baggage methinks. Perhaps not, but I don't think he has the long term focus to keep at it.
As for an Arthur re-match, I don't really see that happening. I believe (oddly enough) both are good friends now, so don't think there is that competive edge there now. Also, I thought Gomez was opperating at lightweight now? Arthur is still at SF and will be for a while yet (until he's got a title shot, should all go according to plan) I would think. In saying that, he himself has been talking about beating up Khan.
I quite like to watch Gomez as a fighter, but in no other respects really. And just to back my guy, I think Arthur would dismantle him in a rematch ;)
NOrth
06-29-2007, 04:27 AM
Gomez will presumably be out for a while after ebing cut above both eyes in the fight last Sunday. Gomez is operating at lightweight, so he wont be fighting Arthur.
Too much baggage methinks. Perhaps not, but I don't think he has the long term focus to keep at it.
As for an Arthur re-match, I don't really see that happening. I believe (oddly enough) both are good friends now, so don't think there is that competive edge there now. Also, I thought Gomez was opperating at lightweight now? Arthur is still at SF and will be for a while yet (until he's got a title shot, should all go according to plan) I would think. In saying that, he himself has been talking about beating up Khan.
I quite like to watch Gomez as a fighter, but in no other respects really. And just to back my guy, I think Arthur would dismantle him in a rematch ;)
xoborp should confirm the friendship thing he has known gomez since he was 10?????????
xoborp
07-05-2007, 04:55 PM
It is true yes, i have known Gomez since he was ten, and he is not finished just yet, as some people are predicting!!!
I am sometimes accused of being biased with Mike, and to an extent it is true i am, But if i thought for one minute that he would not make his mark again in this business, or would run the risk of destroying his reputation that he has built up over Twenty years, then i would tell him.
Mike is not a washed up fighter who will become a punchbag for paydays, so that any up and coming young fighter can add his name to there sheet by any means, if Amir Khan or Alex Arthur think that, then get the fight on, whats stopping them!!!
Mike is in the best condition i have seen him in for years, and when he gets his chance, as he will, and whacks these two pretenders back to childhood, remember that you heard it here first guys!!!!
Strike
07-05-2007, 05:08 PM
I like Gomez and I would love it if you were right. But I don't think he has a chance in hell of doing what you say. Arthur was getting to him in the second round and yet was still too cocky despite being tagged in the first. Arthur is a different fighter to the stiff, upright and slightly too brash version that faced Gomez.
His defence is much better, his lateral movement is far far better than it was and he has had his feet put back on the ground. He has a good chin despite what crap Darke was saying and I think he takes Gomez apart inside 5.
Khan is too fast and too big.
Just to alter my story a bit, I still do believe that Arthur and Gomez no longer dislike each other, but this week Gomez has pushed for a re-match. Here is a quote from the Scotsman:
"Meanwhile, Michael Gomez - the only man to stop Edinburgh super-featherweight world title contender Alex Arthur inside the distance - has thrown his hat into the ring as a possible future challenger.
Arthur faces Georgian Koba Gogoladze for the WBO super-featherweight title in Cardiff on July 21 and, if he wins, Gomez fancies another crack at him.
Following his recent stoppage win in three rounds over Syrian Youseff Al Hamidi Gomez in Wigan, the Mancunian said: "With another two or three warm-up fights I know that I can beat Alex Arthur again. Arthur versus Gomez would sell out any venue anywhere in Britain."
So that still seems like a possibility. To be honest though, Gomez now just seems to hang onto the tailcoat of Arthur. Since that fight Arthur has moved up a lot further in the world than Gomez, which I think we all are agreed on. A re-match at the moment is a no-brainer for Arthur as he literally has nothing to gain from it at this point.
Should Gomez get back up to the top ranks, then of course it would be something to look at. But like Strike, I simply don't see Arthur being too troubled 2nd time round. He's a vastly different fighter today.
Dunky McCafferty
07-05-2007, 09:14 PM
Just to alter my story a bit, I still do believe that Arthur and Gomez no longer dislike each other, but this week Gomez has pushed for a re-match. Here is a quote from the Scotsman:
"Meanwhile, Michael Gomez - the only man to stop Edinburgh super-featherweight world title contender Alex Arthur inside the distance - has thrown his hat into the ring as a possible future challenger.
Arthur faces Georgian Koba Gogoladze for the WBO super-featherweight title in Cardiff on July 21 and, if he wins, Gomez fancies another crack at him.
Following his recent stoppage win in three rounds over Syrian Youseff Al Hamidi Gomez in Wigan, the Mancunian said: "With another two or three warm-up fights I know that I can beat Alex Arthur again. Arthur versus Gomez would sell out any venue anywhere in Britain."
So that still seems like a possibility. To be honest though, Gomez now just seems to hang onto the tailcoat of Arthur. Since that fight Arthur has moved up a lot further in the world than Gomez, which I think we all are agreed on. A re-match at the moment is a no-brainer for Arthur as he literally has nothing to gain from it at this point.
Should Gomez get back up to the top ranks, then of course it would be something to look at. But like Strike, I simply don't see Arthur being too troubled 2nd time round. He's a vastly different fighter today.
AAA, Gomez is an asshole, & always will be. Never be fooled that a twat like him could be friends with anyone. It was always my biggest regret that Scotty Harrison never got his hands on Gomez when Gomez ran him down some years back.
Now thats a fight I would have got the popcorn out for:smoke Thing is though, Gomez wouldnt have even made the fight as Scotty would have fucked him up at the weigh in the minute Gomez put his thick head near Scottys.
Gomez? A one hit wonder. Lets just hope hes ringside when Alex lifts the world title belt aloft.
Strike
07-05-2007, 09:48 PM
AAA, Gomez is an asshole, & always will be. Never be fooled that a twat like him could be friends with anyone. It was always my biggest regret that Scotty Harrison never got his hands on Gomez when Gomez ran him down some years back.
Now thats a fight I would have got the popcorn out for:smoke Thing is though, Gomez wouldnt have even made the fight as Scotty would have fucked him up at the weigh in the minute Gomez put his thick head near Scottys.
Gomez? A one hit wonder. Lets just hope hes ringside when Alex lifts the world title belt aloft.
I dont think Gomez is anymore of an asshole than Harrison. They both have their issues outside of the ring and both have personal demons. The difference is that Harrison is a more gifted fighter and so is Arthur. Gomez has got to where he was on grit, balls and some talent. Arthur got to where he was on talent alone and neglected certain aspects due to people blowing smoke up his arse.
I think the Gomez loss could well be the best thing that ever happened to him, I can honestly say that I cant think of many times when I have seen a fighter lose and come back with a clear change in style that is an improvement.
In fact of the top of my head, Arthur and Witter are the only two. Arthur needed that loss to sort him out but at the same time it was not a loss on such a big scale where is confidence might be destroyed for good.
As for Gomez I met him once, and he was pissed but not being a cunt to anyone, and I think (as I said) that he is like a Harrison in that he has his problems but he is a tough lad who when focused is a good fighter. The difference (again as I already said) is that Harrison when focused beats top class and world title challengers and Gomez beats top European contenders.
Dunky McCafferty
07-05-2007, 10:15 PM
I dont think Gomez is anymore of an asshole than Harrison. They both have their issues outside of the ring and both have personal demons. The difference is that Harrison is a more gifted fighter and so is Arthur. Gomez has got to where he was on grit, balls and some talent. Arthur got to where he was on talent alone and neglected certain aspects due to people blowing smoke up his arse.
I think the Gomez loss could well be the best thing that ever happened to him, I can honestly say that I cant think of many times when I have seen a fighter lose and come back with a clear change in style that is an improvement.
In fact of the top of my head, Arthur and Witter are the only two. Arthur needed that loss to sort him out but at the same time it was not a loss on such a big scale where is confidence might be destroyed for good.
As for Gomez I met him once, and he was pissed but not being a cunt to anyone, and I think (as I said) that he is like a Harrison in that he has his problems but he is a tough lad who when focused is a good fighter. The difference (again as I already said) is that Harrison when focused beats top class and world title challengers and Gomez beats top European contenders.
There are many reasons I dislike Gomez Strike.
& heres one. Gomez was actually one of Scottys favourite fighters, harrison had a lot of respect for him. That was until out of the blue one day Gomez said he would come up to Scotland & "smash Harrison to bits" & Scotty went mental, & wanted to fight him. It never happened of course due to both fighters having 'problems' but trust me, this fight was a possibility even up to this year.
Thats why I dont like Gomez, hes always got too much to say about scottish fighters, & I have no doubt thats why there was a clamour to make a film about him. Damn, dont take me down this route again:lol:
Lets just say I dont like Gomez cos he beat Arthur, but even worse dared to disrespect Scotty...
But thats all in the past now. Doesnt mean I have to like him though! You know me Strike, Im a right bitter bastard with the memory of an elephant. When someone disses one of us jocks, I dont forget...
The Exile
07-06-2007, 04:21 AM
There are many reasons I dislike Gomez Strike.
& heres one. Gomez was actually one of Scottys favourite fighters, harrison had a lot of respect for him. That was until out of the blue one day Gomez said he would come up to Scotland & "smash Harrison to bits" & Scotty went mental, & wanted to fight him. It never happened of course due to both fighters having 'problems' but trust me, this fight was a possibility even up to this year.
Thats why I dont like Gomez, hes always got too much to say about scottish fighters, & I have no doubt thats why there was a clamour to make a film about him. Damn, dont take me down this route again:lol:
Lets just say I dont like Gomez cos he beat Arthur, but even worse dared to disrespect Scotty...
But thats all in the past now. Doesnt mean I have to like him though! You know me Strike, Im a right bitter bastard with the memory of an elephant. When someone disses one of us jocks, I dont forget...
Hey Dunky, hows it going mate?
I remember the exact same thing and prayed for Harrison to get Gomez in the ring - i cant stand Gomez, think he's an arsehole but i do give him credit for the way he handled the atmosphere when fighting Arthur - a lot of fighters, even better than Gomez would have lost the fight before entering the ring that night - I honestly think the hatred towards him put him up another notch for the fight and really got him fired up but hey, he's still a complete twat :yep
Arthur would wipe the floor with him now imo and thats not the Scottish pride talking, i genuinely think Gomez wouldnt last past 4 rounds at present.
selhurst
07-06-2007, 06:40 AM
As you can tell I'm a big Gomez fan and notice he is still down on boxrec to fight tonight on the Sky undercard. Presumably this is an error as someone commented he was cut in his last fight. I still think Gomez has something left and would give Khan a real fright if they ever met. He is not scared of anyone (confused with a lack of respect) and as a fighter that can only be a good thing.
As for Harrison and Arthur I doubt he could beat them now. But nothing will take away that brilliant night in Edinburgh when he went into Arthur's backyard and took him apart.:thumbsup
GazOC
07-06-2007, 06:50 AM
From the 'outside' I've always looked at Gomez and Harrison as peas in a pod.
NOrth
07-06-2007, 06:50 AM
Gomez isn't fighting tonight. If he's there, I'll ask when he's planning to be out next. Failing that, I'll ask Steve Wood (who'd have a better idea anyway). Im not sure there are many more shows left this season, so it might be that Mike isnt fighting till Sept time?!?!
achillesthegreat
07-06-2007, 07:15 AM
The Arthur that faced Gomez was a good Arthur. It was a quality win for Gomez. If gomez comes like that again then Arthur still faces HUGE trouble. Arthur first and foremost needs to go downstairs to slow Gomez down.
NOrth
07-06-2007, 07:20 AM
Gomez needs to fight regualr, something im sure his whole team will be the first to admit. I fear Arthur has bigger fish to fry to be honest, althhough erradicating the only (current) blemish on the record could appeal to him.
achillesthegreat
07-06-2007, 07:33 AM
I don't buy this shit. There is never bigger fish to fry then a man who BEAT you. This is the sort of shit people said for Wlad and many others. He beat you, don't move onto someone else before you at least try to correct that. That's why I respect Mosley because he lost clearly to Forrest and Winky but he gave it another go and made it a bit closer.
Wlad beating Brewster does more for his legacy than unifying - for example.
NOrth
07-06-2007, 08:44 AM
Course there is bigger fish to fry. Errrrr fight the likes of Guzman / Barios in Vegas, or Michael Gomez in a leisure centre? From a promotional point of view it would make no sense at all for Arthur to fight Gomez, unless Arthur loses his WBO interim shot and is looking for a comeback fight. Mike needs to continue winning anyway, he's a long way off being ready for a british title shot, let alone a World top 10 operator.
At 28 (or is he 29 now) theres still time for Gomez. Providing he can stay busy, keep out of trouble and most importantly keep winning Im sure he can have a crack at a brit title at some point.
faisal
07-06-2007, 09:28 AM
gomez is a shot fighter he's looking for a big pay day, thats why he called out khan, he's couldnt care about winning or loosing.
achillesthegreat
07-06-2007, 02:10 PM
Course there is bigger fish to fry. Errrrr fight the likes of Guzman / Barios in Vegas, or Michael Gomez in a leisure centre? From a promotional point of view it would make no sense at all for Arthur to fight Gomez, unless Arthur loses his WBO interim shot and is looking for a comeback fight. Mike needs to continue winning anyway, he's a long way off being ready for a british title shot, let alone a World top 10 operator.
At 28 (or is he 29 now) theres still time for Gomez. Providing he can stay busy, keep out of trouble and most importantly keep winning Im sure he can have a crack at a brit title at some point.
That isn't true.
Guzman is in line for the likes of Pac. Also can you see ****** making Guzman-Arthur? Be serious.
Barrios is about to lose to Marquez so he's tied up.
Gomez beat him and in devastating fashion. It's not because Arthur was green or anything, it's because Gomez performed and credit to him. Arthur simply got pimped. I'm an Arthur fan but when you watch the fight Gomez is hell for him any night of the week.
Gomez should get a good win or two in and then fight Arthur if beats or loses to Gogoladze.
rochsolloch
07-06-2007, 08:58 PM
Course there is bigger fish to fry. Errrrr fight the likes of Guzman / Barios in Vegas, or Michael Gomez in a leisure centre? From a promotional point of view it would make no sense at all for Arthur to fight Gomez, unless Arthur loses his WBO interim shot and is looking for a comeback fight. Mike needs to continue winning anyway, he's a long way off being ready for a british title shot, let alone a World top 10 operator.
At 28 (or is he 29 now) theres still time for Gomez. Providing he can stay busy, keep out of trouble and most importantly keep winning Im sure he can have a crack at a brit title at some point.
guzman would take out any british fighter even harrison ducked him and avoided him like the plague!
NOrth
07-06-2007, 09:06 PM
Presumably if Arthur wins the WBO interim he'll virtually become mandatory for the champion? If so thats the fight for him.
Dunky McCafferty
07-06-2007, 09:07 PM
guzman would take out any british fighter even harrison ducked him and avoided him like the plague!
Aye right...
Guzman is a fake, & if Alex Arthur comes through a tricky fight with Gogoladze, then I would pick triple A to hand wee fat Guzman his first pro L.
Max Molyneux
07-06-2007, 09:09 PM
Triple A POWA!:smoke
NOrth
07-06-2007, 09:10 PM
Classy boxer, but he hasnt carried his devestating power through the divisions with him. I'd make Guzman fav, but Arthur has improved a lot recently, we'll find out how much against Gogoladze.
Dunky McCafferty
07-06-2007, 10:34 PM
That isn't true.
Guzman is in line for the likes of Pac. Also can you see ****** making Guzman-Arthur? Be serious.
Barrios is about to lose to Marquez so he's tied up.
Gomez beat him and in devastating fashion. It's not because Arthur was green or anything, it's because Gomez performed and credit to him. Arthur simply got pimped. I'm an Arthur fan but when you watch the fight Gomez is hell for him any night of the week.
Gomez should get a good win or two in and then fight Arthur if beats or loses to Gogoladze.
Achilles my man, you are letting your heart rule your head here, BIGTIME.
Gomez had his big day, he beat Arthur spectacularly & I can never take that away from him. However, to claim Arthur should fight Gomez if he beats Gogoladze??? Thats madness my man. Dont get me wrong, I would love it if Arthur did rematch Gomez.
Even I have to admit though that if Arthur beat Gomez now, he would be beating a shot Gomez. I would enjoy Arthur beating Gomez as I dont like Gomez, but the win would mean nothing in the grand scheme of things, & I would be a hypocrite if I gloated about Arthur beating Gomez this year, or any year after.
Gomez is yesterdays man whose biggest win will always be his upset win against Arthur, just accept that Gomez best days are long gone.
pinpointzero
07-11-2007, 08:00 AM
Brilliant thread chaps.
For my money, it'll take a fast and accurate, and fleet footed boxer to expose Guzman.
Arthur could just be the man. Still like to see him avenge the loss to Gomez (tho' I also believe Gomez is there for money these days - not titles and glory).
China_hand_Joe
07-11-2007, 08:05 AM
Guzman by near shut-out, if he didn't break Arthur's heart and soul within 12 rounds.
scurlaruntings
07-11-2007, 08:19 AM
Arthur lost for one reason and one reason only.He though Gomez was leagues below him and believed all the hype he was being told.He paid for his arrogance dearly and ate more left hooks than i could count.But like the Brewster Vlad debacle class always tells.Arthur is a better fighter than Gomez and in a rematch i doubt it would be close.Im pretty Arthur has finally learnt to keep his right hand high to defend the left hook!
duran83
07-11-2007, 11:21 AM
Too much baggage methinks. Perhaps not, but I don't think he has the long term focus to keep at it.
As for an Arthur re-match, I don't really see that happening. I believe (oddly enough) both are good friends now, so don't think there is that competive edge there now. Also, I thought Gomez was opperating at lightweight now? Arthur is still at SF and will be for a while yet (until he's got a title shot, should all go according to plan) I would think. In saying that, he himself has been talking about beating up Khan.
I quite like to watch Gomez as a fighter, but in no other respects really. And just to back my guy, I think Arthur would dismantle him in a rematch ;)
Gomez and Arthur are far from good friends i see Micheal alot ot the time and is still pissed that Arthur never paid him the 40k side bet they had, trust me they are far from friends, Arthur would be to much for Gomez now, Gomez should fight Kahn imo.
Duran83, I'm agreeing with you now. A day or two after the post you have highlighted I posted again with quotes of Gomez calling Arthur out again.
I agree with most of what has been said on here anyway. Arthur is a much improved fighter since the Gomez loss. It is just a bit sad now that Gomez refuses to let it go. You'd think he was the one that lost with the amount of talking he does about Alex.
Cobra33
07-11-2007, 07:24 PM
Well it would be a good payday for Gomez.And he did beat Arthur.No matter what Arthur acheives Gomez still holds a win over him.If I were Arthur I would rematch Gomez just to avenge my loss.
pinpointzero
07-12-2007, 08:17 AM
Did anybody see Gomez fight on sunday in wigan? if not let me tell you now that he will be right bac into the equasion in the next 4 months, he looked a little rusty in the first round, but only because the guy he was fighting never stopped running literally!!!
My prerdiction for gomez in the next twelvw months, tempts alex arthur into another war and bangs him out in eight, then Amir Khan KO in 5.
i have known Gomez since he was 10 years of age, and believe you me he looks absolutely fantastic, is serious again, and he will prove all of the doubters wrong once again, the only thing that will stop Gomez is Frank ******, saying that if i was ******, i wouldnt want Gomez anytwhere near my fighters, after all ****** has invested too much in these two recently only for Gomez to come and ruin things for him again...:patsch
Hmmm... Whilst ****** might not want that fight, Arthur would.
Bear in mind after being pelted heavily in rounds 1 & 2, AA turned round 3 in to a jabbing and moving lesson before going postal in the 4th. If you think for one minute a shot money motivated Gomez could bring a game plan to do Arthur again, I believe you'd be mistaken! Arthur really would punish him. And then, like before having quit on his feet in the past he'd do it again.
Bear in mind, under pressure he has retired against, Kevin Lear, Peter McDonagh(sp.), and Javier Alvarez.
Also account for the bout we witnessed last Friday he was fighting a 7 fight novice who had won only 2 fights, lost 3 and drawn 1...
Sorry.. it's a comeback, but it'll be shortlived..
:)
NOrth
07-12-2007, 09:14 AM
"Also account for the bout we witnessed last Friday he was fighting a 7 fight novice who had won only 2 fights, lost 3 and drawn 1... "
Eh, who might that be ? What Friday fight?
"TKO"
07-12-2007, 09:33 AM
Arthur has nothing to gain from facing the Predator again at this stage. If he wins, he'll have beaten a fighter who the whole world believes is shot, if he loses, well... it would be a disaster for his title ambitions.
Though I have to say that's a bit naughty about not paying the side-bet if true.
"TKO"
07-12-2007, 09:37 AM
You could never tell with Gomez, if he came in fit, focused and motivated he would be more than a match for virtually anyone at European level and below. But too often he looked like he'd cut corners in training or simply couldn;t be arsed living up to his potential. There are plenty of times he put in lacklustre performances against guys you'd have backed him to demolish (the Bognar fights being the most obvious example) I doubt he'll amount to much this time round to be honest.
What the heck happened to Kevin Lear anyway? I remember thinking he had the talent to go somewhere when he beat Gomez, lost track of him after that but boxrec shows he's only had one fight since and none since 2002.
pinpointzero
07-13-2007, 03:57 AM
"Also account for the bout we witnessed last Friday he was fighting a 7 fight novice who had won only 2 fights, lost 3 and drawn 1... "
Eh, who might that be ? What Friday fight?
Hiya NOrth,
Youseff Al Hamidi at Robin Park last week..
PP0
NOrth
07-13-2007, 05:32 AM
Ah, that was a sunday, about 3 weeks ago, 24th June.
He was down to fight on the udnercard of Booth napa last friday, but didnt, presumably due to cuts. I saw Mike there as I was arriving, but I didnt see him again after.
Terry D has interviewed Mike this week I understand.
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