To all those who think Povetkin will someday beat Klitschko

[wrastla285]

I just watched Povetkin/Byrd. Povetkin did a great job, but from what I saw, he will never be able to get close enough to do any damage to Klitschko. Klitschko will be able to stay at a safe distance and tee off all night. Discuss.

[Kolya]

Well, my best explanation is you saw Sasha in his 14th pro fight against an extremely experienced and slippery fighter who's his own size; so he had no reason to get on Byrd's chest; he could maintain a different kind of range. He can be quite aggressive and I think as he continues to get more pro experience will become more impressive-he hasn't been fighting tomato cans like most new pros, he's taking on very serious opposition here. I think with him coming in behind his jab and with head movement, he has a chance to get in on Wlad. And when does Wlad ever really "tee off" anymore? He isn't as offensive as he used to be, still a great jab when he gets it going, but no more blazing 4 or 5 punch combos.

[Mendoza]

I just watched Povetkin/Byrd. Povetkin did a great job, but from what I saw, he will never be able to get close enough to do any damage to Klitschko. Klitschko will be able to stay at a safe distance and tee off all night. Discuss.


Wald is an offensive power house who has perfected the nuances of clinching, using his legs to stay out of the other guys range, and keeping up a fast pace for 12 rounds. He's simply too good, too fast, and hits to hard. Going the distance with Wlad seems very unlikely and winning on points virtually out of the question as well. Wlad's too good.

Wlad looks like a dominant champion fight now. But how many people could honestly say they saw Wlad losing to Brewster or Sanders before it happened? Very few. At best Sanders and Brewster had the punchers chance. Povetkin doesn't hit as hard as Sanders or Brewster, so his puncher's chance is less. But I think Povetkin has a good chin to hang in there and better skills than either Sanders or Brewster. If Povetkin can survive the first 6 rounds vs Wlad, I'd give him a chance to pull of a mid to late round TKO, as Wlad chin is not great.

[FlatNose]

Lets not forget that Wlad has looked undestructable before, and was unable to finish fights against Ross Purrity, Corrie Sanders, and Lamon Brewster, hardly hall of fame candidates.He's looking good against the second rate heavyweights of today, and the Brewster he fought the second time in no way resembled the guy who beat him the first time.Any one with some power , stamina, and the heart to walk through a rather considerable offensive gaunlet has a chance to beat Wlad.That may seem to be a lot to ask, but theres really not much around these days that resembles an ATG heavyweight.So far ,Povetkin seems superior to the usual heavyweight prospect of late , so if he continues to develop, its not unlikely that he would poccess the potential to beat a very beatable Wlad somewhere down the road.

[Chief_Second]

wlad seems to rely on his opponents fading and slowing down to maintain a later stoppage of recent. if povetkin can absorb punishment from the opening bell to the 2nd half of the fight without wilting then he stands a reasonable chance of stopping wlad.

[Armo_Ruski]

povetkin beating a guy like byrd in only his what 14th pro fight and winning by tko is saying somethin, we dont know how his chin is, what if wlad cant hurt povetkin? will he fold from povetkins pressure? interesting...

[Sakura]

Byrd win was very good win to povetkin, but he was little hurt a while (legs was shaky)...so if Byrd can do it imagine what wlad can do..Byrd was ready to fight with Povetkin and didin't affraid his power at all..

[Guru_Too_You]

Most people said that Byrd was too big of a step up as well.

And how many fighters have stopped Byrd before?

Exactly.

[wrastla285]

Well, my best explanation is you saw Sasha in his 14th pro fight against an extremely experienced and slippery fighter who's his own size; so he had no reason to get on Byrd's chest; he could maintain a different kind of range. He can be quite aggressive and I think as he continues to get more pro experience will become more impressive-he hasn't been fighting tomato cans like most new pros, he's taking on very serious opposition here. I think with him coming in behind his jab and with head movement, he has a chance to get in on Wlad. And when does Wlad ever really "tee off" anymore? He isn't as offensive as he used to be, still a great jab when he gets it going, but no more blazing 4 or 5 punch combos.

Doesnt matter if he Tees off as much, look at the end results. Knock Outs. Lots of em. Just a different style, but the end result has been the same.

[TanstA]

Maybe he will, Maybe he wont.

[wrastla285]

Most people said that Byrd was too big of a step up as well.

And how many fighters have stopped Byrd before?

Exactly.

huge difference between the 11 round competitive fight with povetkin and the 7 round massacre that wlad put on him

[Guru_Too_You]

huge difference between the 11 round competitive fight with povetkin and the 7 round massacre that wlad put on him
Styles.

And what was Wladdy doin in his 14th fight?

[Ambition_Def]

It can be very easily read as:

1. Byrd has been slipping ever since McCline/Golota. 2. Waldo actually hasn't improved all that much. 3. Povetkin is good enough to do what Waldo does in his 14th pro fight.

Povetkin imo will beat Waldo. I have no doubt about it. Right style and right composure.

[wrastla285]

Styles.

And what was Wladdy doin in his 14th fight?

A lot less then povetkin is.

with that being said, Wlad had the style, and size for much improvment. Not sayin Povetkin will not improve, im sure he will, but i just dont think there is as much room. for the most part his size and power

[curmudgeon]

Both Olympic champs are extraordinally skilled, both are natural heavyweights, and all teh advantage that Wlad enjoys in the height/reach/power department is pretty well equalized by the advantage Povetkin enjoys in the head department.

When Wlad gets hit, he panics, when Povetkin gets hits he gets more focused and hits back harder.

That would be an interesting and competitive fight, even right now. More so if Povetkin gets a bit more pro experience.

[skier47]

That may seem to be a lot to ask, but theres really not much around these days that resembles an ATG heavyweight.So far ,Povetkin seems superior to the usual heavyweight prospect of late , so if he continues to develop, its not unlikely that he would poccess the potential to beat a very beatable Wlad somewhere down the road.

Wlad hasn't been "very beatable" since the Castillo fight. Steward has
done wonders with him as he did the tall powerpuncher and master
boxer Lennox Lewis. When Wlad attacked with reckless disregard
as he did in the Mercer fight he looked like a machine of destruction
and then a limited brawler when KO'ed by Sanders. That's long in
the past. Manny's got him outboxing his opponents now. Terrific
lateral movement; less stalking and more accurate punches from distance which frustrate his opponents and force them to make
mistakes which they pay dearly for. Wlad's power is always there
to turn a fight around in a split second vis-a-vis Brock and Austin.

[Odo]

I just watched Povetkin/Byrd. Povetkin did a great job, but from what I saw, he will never be able to get close enough to do any damage to Klitschko. Klitschko will be able to stay at a safe distance and tee off all night. Discuss.


Anything is possible!
Who knows? Wlad might be able to outjab Povetkin throughout 12 long rounds to win a wide point decision.
Well,I wouldnt bet my house on such an outcome.
Povetkin was one of the most dominating heavy weight forces at the amateurs of all times.He hasnt been defeated for ages.Povetkin can bang,can take a good shot,and always adjusts his style to his opponents ' style.
Povetkin is a very hard nut to crack,and Wlad has been beaten before.
Could go either way IMO.

[Mindspring]

Anything is possible!
Who knows? Wlad might be able to outjab Povetkin throughout 12 long rounds to win a wide point decision.
Well,I wouldnt bet my house on such an outcome.
Povetkin was one of the most dominating heavy weight forces at the amateurs of all times.He hasnt been defeated for ages.Povetkin can bang,can take a good shot,and always adjusts his style to his opponents ' style.
Povetkin is a very hard nut to crack,and Wlad has been beaten before.
Could go either way IMO.
These heavys with short arms miss their mark and get countered easily. Chagaev and Povetkin look to have short arms. They would be taking alot of Wlad's face defiguring jabs like Brock ate.

[Ivo]

Styles.

And what was Wladdy doin in his 14th fight?


The number of the fight tells not that much. One starts later with long and rich expirience among amateurs so that he needs less fights as a pro. Others start at 19 or 20 with little expirience among amateurs so that they need more preparatory fights as pros. Sven Ottke won his belt at his 13 fight. Just too long and rich expirience.

How about what was Wladimir Klitschko doing 3 years after his Olympic gold medal and what is Povetkin? What was Klitschko doing at 24 years of age and what Povetkin? Doesn\'t look that good for Povetkin, right?