View Full Version : Anyone actually think Floyd is good for the sport?
Slothrop
10-31-2007, 09:06 PM
You think the casual fan really wants to pay good money to see a classless shit talking track star in boxing gloves?
kg0208
10-31-2007, 09:08 PM
Yeah, a good fighter is ALWAYS good. People will pay to see him lose at the very least. Polarizing figures are good for ANY sport.
brooklyn1550
10-31-2007, 09:09 PM
Yes, Floyd's good for the sport.
Fighting Weight
10-31-2007, 09:09 PM
Depends what you mean by casual fan I suppose.
I'd suggest that a lot of Hattons fans are casual fans, same goes with DLH....so judging by the money those two fights have or will have earned this year then I'd say he's good for the sport, even if people are only paying to root against him.
Slothrop
10-31-2007, 09:10 PM
Yeah, a good fighter is ALWAYS good. People will pay to see him lose at the very least. Polarizing figures are good for ANY sport.
About half of my casual boxing fan friends don't want to see him ever again and have refused to chip in on his future PPVs.
BigReg
10-31-2007, 09:10 PM
Put your obvious bias aside and pay attention to the numbers. To me, the numbers obviously indicate that the casual fan is willing to pay to watch a hardworking, talented guy like Floyd fight. The numbers from the Hatton fight will further solidify this notion.
Ambition_Def
10-31-2007, 09:11 PM
It depends on who he fights. He's no different than anyone else. Fans aren't dumb. If they know you are fighting with odds on your side all the time while running and making fights a borefest then they will get sick of you fast.
Guys like DLH and Trinidad and Tyson and Holyfield didn't make super cash by fighting with the odds on their side all the time. They went through serious wars to prove who was the best in their respective division. Mayweather hasn't had that. Maybe Hatton will bring that though.
MrStayman
10-31-2007, 09:12 PM
It depends on perspective.
Yes, he is good for the sport because he has phenomenal skills and boxing can be looked at as a form of art. Many people enjoy him in the ring for his tactical mastery. He gets pretty good PPV numbers.
No, he is not good for the sport because he makes newcomers watch him that instead should watch more exciting up and comers. Many of them want to check out what boxing is all about, so they watch the most hyped fight between the best fighters. Disgusted with the quality of the fight, many of them lose interest in boxing.
kg0208
10-31-2007, 09:12 PM
About half of my casual boxing fan friends don't want to see him ever again and have refused to chip in on his future PPVs.
Ok. But the numbers say he is one of the most watched fighters.
Slothrop
10-31-2007, 09:13 PM
Put your obvious bias aside and pay attention to the numbers. To me, the numbers obviously indicate that the casual fan is willing to pay to watch a hardworking, talented guy like Floyd fight. The numbers from the Hatton fight will further solidify this notion.
How'd Floyd's fights do before DLH?
Slothrop
10-31-2007, 09:13 PM
Ok. But the numbers say he is one of the most watched fighters.
But is he drawing casual fans into the sport? There are plenty of real boxing fans out there who buy fights.
MrStayman
10-31-2007, 09:14 PM
How'd Floyd's fights do before DLH?Pretty good actually. 300kish per fight.
kg0208
10-31-2007, 09:14 PM
How'd Floyd's fights do before DLH?
About the same as MAB and Morales' fights. Maybe slightly better.
codeman99998
10-31-2007, 09:14 PM
It depends on who he fights. He's no different than anyone else. Fans aren't dumb. If they know you are fighting with odds on your side all the time while running and making fights a borefest then they will get sick of you fast.
Guys like DLH and Trinidad and Tyson and Holyfield didn't make super cash by fighting with the odds on their side all the time. They went through serious wars to prove who was the best in their respective division. Mayweather hasn't had that. Maybe Hatton will bring that though.
But I mean, unless he fights at JMW again the odds will ALWAYS be on his side.
radianttwilight
10-31-2007, 09:16 PM
But I mean, unless he fights at JMW again the odds will ALWAYS be on his side.
I'm not so sure about that - maybe the betting odds, but there are some real dangerous threats in the WW division right now, and as these guys get more experience and start fighting each other at least 2-3 REAL threats to Floyd's supremacy will start to solidify themselves as such.
The odds may be in his favor, but they certainly won't be stacked entirely so.
kg0208
10-31-2007, 09:17 PM
But is he drawing casual fans into the sport? There are plenty of real boxing fans out there who buy fights.
If he is drawing higher numbers than other fighters besides DLH, then I would have to assume he is. Or I would have to assume that other fighters are NOT, because they have lower numbers than he does.
radianttwilight
10-31-2007, 09:22 PM
If he is drawing higher numbers than other fighters besides DLH, then I would have to assume he is. Or I would have to assume that other fighters are NOT, because they have lower numbers than he does.
Let's keep in mind the guys he's been fighting - it takes two to make a PPV, and he's had some big-name "co-stars" lately.
He could be better for the sport, like a Ray Leonard type fighter.
But he is not bad for it.
kg0208
10-31-2007, 09:24 PM
Let's keep in mind the guys he's been fighting - it takes two to make a PPV, and he's had some big-name "co-stars" lately.
Baldomir was not a big name co-star. And DLH has had big name co-stars before, in better era's for boxing coverage, and he never did anywhere near those numbers.
BigReg
10-31-2007, 09:25 PM
Let's keep in mind the guys he's been fighting - it takes two to make a PPV, and he's had some big-name "co-stars" lately.
It certainly does take two to make a PPV, but none of the guys he's fought on PPV(besides DLH) had even fought on a PPV main event before. Also, I wouldn't say Baldomir is a big name
jonesjrp4p1
10-31-2007, 09:42 PM
yes he is
lillarry
10-31-2007, 09:53 PM
Of course real fans of the sport will pay to see elite fighters. What he does out of the ring does not diminish his in ring accomplisments. Dumb ass thread.
cardstars
10-31-2007, 09:55 PM
I hate the dude with a passion but he drew me and a few other friends into the sport. This is an obvious answer imo - yes he is great for the sport....love him or hate him its the truth
bigtime9
10-31-2007, 10:00 PM
:hey another shit fuck thread with some jealous ass hater talking about how much they hate floyd for being perfect and undefeated. I mean I can tell the envy is hurting you guys:hey
face the fact floyd is likely going to retire undefeated as one of the greatest fighters of all time:yep
Florida boy
10-31-2007, 10:13 PM
I think yes, hes good for the sport. Some people appreciate boxing, not two guys just slugging it out with no real strategy. ( Gatti-Ward- no offense). People love Leonard but all he did against Hagler was run and flurry at the end of the round, at least Floyd figures out his opponent after a couple of rounds, then begins to disect them. He would have stopped Judah if not for the 10th, and he rocked De La Hoya a couple of times during there fight.
:hey another shit fuck thread with some jealous ass hater talking about how much they hate floyd for being perfect and undefeated. I mean I can tell the envy is hurting you guys:hey
face the fact floyd is likely going to retire undefeated as one of the greatest fighters of all time:yep
Little sensitive tonight?
:lol:
Ramshall1
10-31-2007, 11:27 PM
Floyd is good for the sport of boxing like Dick Cheney is good for the country.
kg0208
10-31-2007, 11:37 PM
Oscar never did anywhere near those numbers either. They did a million more than his biggest fight which was was trinidad. Its take 2 to tango and without mayweather those numbers wouldn't be close.
I already said DLH never did those numbers before he fought PBF.
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