Foremen Strength

[fernando4cv3]

Was this natural power or did he have a specific training program to gain all the power. if so what was it

[freesix88]

Train your punches on the heavy bag with proper technique. This is one the best ways to train the power of your punches.
Train with 16 ounce gloves.

[4eyes]

Punchers are born, not made.

Thank you:good

[haggler2167]

"there are know such thing as natural puntchers but theres a natural apptitude for punching" cus d'amato (in other words the enviroment around them and what they learn helps them punch)

[achillesthegreat]

Foreman was born naturally strong and powerful. His talent had to be nurtured though, though he was still rough round the edges.

[haggler2167]

if want to be strong eat bricks and bash trees .

[younghypnotiq]

^^^^ who is this guy. i havent seen one serious coment from him and there all in broken english

[austyn]

He hit the heavy bag hard arm by arm?

[Muchmoore]

Punchers are born, not made.

So Foreman even if he hadnt boxed wouldnt have been a power puncher nonetheless :lol:

I do agree that people are naturally stronger than others and bigger, but you can definently improve your punching power considerably by lifting and training your power. Look at Holyfield.

[Badman B]

no, not by lifting

[Pugsley]

No Idea. I'd likely believe that Foreman (despite his natural power) had his own specific training with techniques that he may never share, he will die and the knowledge be lost with him. Looking back at RJJ vs Byrant Brannon, Jones could do knockout power punches with only 1-2 feet distance of launch. How he could project his fists with so little 'run way' is just a mystery. Note, I have never seen any prominent fighters share their full training videos nor talk about any unusual training methods. At times I think we will never be allowed to know.

[younghypnotiq]

lifting makes you punch harder are you a moron?

[Relentless]

lifting makes you punch harder are you a moron?

looks like you are the moron.

lifting wont give you george foreman type power, but it can certainly improve punching power.

[Mistadobalina]

that whole cus d'amato quote about punchers not being born, but certain punchers having more of an aptitude for the the act is correct imo.

technique and strength exercises will do wonders for one's punching power, but in the end it's all to an extent. as we all know there are guys out there who punch with great punching technique and still can't crack as hard as a sissy arm punch thrown by foreman.

you can teach a guy to hit harder, but you can't teach a guy to be a hard hitter. some guys just have the bigger, denser bone structure; the wider range of motion, the broader shoulders, the stronger core/base muscles, etc., to just be natural punching machines.

[Pugsley]

that whole cus d'amato quote about punchers not being born, but certain punchers having more of an aptitude for the the act is correct imo.

technique and strength exercises will do wonders for one's punching power, but in the end it's all to an extent. as we all know there are guys out there who punch with great punching technique and still can't crack as hard as a sissy arm punch thrown by foreman.

you can teach a guy to hit harder, but you can't teach a guy to be a hard hitter. some guys just have the bigger, denser bone structure; the wider range of motion, the broader shoulders, the stronger core/base muscles, etc., to just be natural punching machines.

While I 'm sure that bone density can be boosted and the core solidified through good training, the part about have wider range of motion and broader shoulders is definately a born asset. You just see people who have a naturally wider skeletal frame and you know they can hit hard. I think some of the physical assets also contribute to the geometry / leverage behind a punch, where those things determine the final limit on where training can take you.

[BeGGeRs]

Punchers are born, not made.

Wrong way round mate...Punchers are made not born..

[SouthPaw_Swamer]

looks like you are the moron.

lifting wont give you george foreman type power, but it can certainly improve punching power.

Wait so lifting weights is good for boxing?? :huh Why does everyone say never touch weights then? is it more light weighs or heavy weights?

[younghypnotiq]

heavy weights. only idiots say dont lift weights for MAs

[Vantage_West]

"there are know such thing as natural puntchers but theres a natural apptitude for punching" cus d'amato (in other words the enviroment around them and what they learn helps them punch)i take that but longer arms taller size wider frame help. if you look at foreman he has got huge back muscles which most other boxers of the time didnt train

[Vantage_West]

Wait so lifting weights is good for boxing?? :huh Why does everyone say never touch weights then? is it more light weighs or heavy weights?well they are good for punching but bad for boxing you dont want that type of muscle.it will make you hit hard but the problem with wieghtlifting punchers they tire easily and usually havnt go the speed ,agilty or stamina.

but wieghts are useful and shouldnt be looked down upon as people do. it's like skipping rope all the time you will have great footwork but almost no defence or punching ability.

anyway you can always learn techniques to hit harder and not go up 2 divisions

[Vantage_West]

well what causes force is speed x mass = force

so even thoughsome saying you have to be bigger you also have to be faster...which defyes the physics...look at a foreman jab and it would crack your skull open. then look at any other jabber it doesnt have the same wieght behind it...i personally feel that wieght doesnt have anything behind it but mass which is a totally different thing. mass is the density of objects wieght is purely a human invention.

so what we need is a good combonation of muscles. back muscles for taunting the arm and the pec's to do the opposite and to drag the arm the back relaeses and a punch is invented

[buzzsaw]

The old school trainers preached to never lift weights, it would make you tight. In fact many pointed out that in the film Rocky was shown lifting which was a red flag. That way of thinking was laid by the wayside with Evander's new approach to training with weights. With time the legs go and the skin bleeds easier but a true puncher still carries a punch. Foreman regaining the title is evidence of this. 82 years old Jack Dempsey was hailing a cab when approached by two would be muggers. He knocked them both out.

[younghypnotiq]

yah i heard about that lol. BTW how does your back help with a punch. i always wonderd that? pulling it back faster?

[Relentless]

foreman might have had natural power, but he did train it, he used to pull trucks, chop down trees, hit a tyre with a bat and loads of other strength training.

[skipdog]

This shit gets to me.. Relentless just out of curiosity, do you think if we propose a competitive training forum we could keep the new out until they learn? Im sick of coming on here to learn and getting drawn into bullshit..

[dimi_dinev]

foreman might have had natural power, but he did train it, he used to pull trucks, chop down trees, hit a tyre with a bat and loads of other strength training.

Relentless, where do you have this info from?

Btw, does someone know where to find something about Foreman's training routine (generally spoken)?

[radianttwilight]

Relentless, where do you have this info from?

Btw, does someone know where to find something about Foreman's training routine (generally spoken)?

There are videos on YouTube of Foreman training (during his comeback) by doing things like dragging sleds and hitting tires with sledgehammers.

[viru§™]

Some of these posts are absolute bullshit. If you take 2 boxers, exactly the same strength, speed, agility etc and trained them exactly the same but got one doing extra strength training with weights, which do you think will hit harder? I'm guessing the one doing strength training.

It all comes down to the individual and the way they train.

[Relentless]

Relentless, where do you have this info from?

Btw, does someone know where to find something about Foreman's training routine (generally spoken)?

legendary nights foreman vs moorer

i was surprised to see foreman doing so much bicep curls:huh

[yung-gun1]

I'm sorry, but anyone disagreeing with the fact that someone who lifts and someone who doesn't has no effect on punching power is wrong. This is proven with me and a friend. My friend is skinny, doesn't lift, and doesn't hit as hard as me. Infact, I know how to punch so lets use my other friend. He doesn't know the correct way to throw a cross. Yet he lightly lifts, and my other friend, the skinny one, doesn't either. Yet my friend who lifts hits harder. Either coincidence or lifting does help somewhat. Of course, form does come first.

[Dumi]

will people think in the now and stop focusing on old ass advice so stubbornly? high weights with low reps with build great power and strength. This, coupled with great punching technique will give you some rocks for punches.

[Ethan Trims]

that whole cus d'amato quote about punchers not being born, but certain punchers having more of an aptitude for the the act is correct imo.

technique and strength exercises will do wonders for one's punching power, but in the end it's all to an extent. as we all know there are guys out there who punch with great punching technique and still can't crack as hard as a sissy arm punch thrown by foreman.

you can teach a guy to hit harder, but you can't teach a guy to be a hard hitter. some guys just have the bigger, denser bone structure; the wider range of motion, the broader shoulders, the stronger core/base muscles, etc., to just be natural punching machines.

Where the hell do you get the idea that wider/broader shoulders has anything to do with punching power. I can name about five power punchers off of the top of my head that prove that wrong.

[IOANNIS]

Foreman had the talent (extrodinary power) and TRAINED HARD!!
I believe his training had to do with perfecting his strenths (uppercuts) and imrove his weaknesses.

[Rakim]

^^^^ who is this guy. i havent seen one serious coment from him and there all in broken english




Now you know how we feel.

[RDJ]

Now you know how we feel.

Ginger-ish? :think

[ralphc]

Was this natural power or did he have a specific training program to gain all the power. if so what was it



Spend a few years (or perhaps a few decades) down at the gym and wait for a puncher to walk in the door. With no prior training he will be able to hit the heavybag harder than anybody in the gym. What training accomplishes is learning how to deliver the firepower, not developing firepower. If you lack firepower no amount of training will give it to you.

[radianttwilight]

Spend a few years (or perhaps a few decades) down at the gym and wait for a puncher to walk in the door. With no prior training he will be able to hit the heavybag harder than anybody in the gym. What training accomplishes is learning how to deliver the firepower, not developing firepower. If you lack firepower no amount of training will give it to you.

Yeah, every few DECADES a "born" puncher comes along.

For the rest of them - there's training. There IS a limit to how much of a puncher you can be...but to say that punchers are ONLY born is simply false.

[magnificentdave]

Where the hell do you get the idea that wider/broader shoulders has anything to do with punching power. I can name about five power punchers off of the top of my head that prove that wrong.

the idea is, if your shoulders are used as a lever, powered by the rotation of your core, then the longer the lever(broader the shoulders) the greater the multiplication of the torque from your core, transferred to your fist

[Jazzo]

well what causes force is speed x mass = force



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[Bill1234]

Was this natural power or did he have a specific training program to gain all the power. if so what was it

Natural strength, although Shavers (who hit harder than Foreman) said that he hit harder after chopping wood. Strength is natural, you just have to train it to its fullest.

[dimi_dinev]

Relentless, thanx!

[Dumi]

F.

Physics whizz right there man!

[gregsid]

Punchers are born, not made.

Great punchers are born, but they are still babies in the begining that need care and proper supervision to grow up to be the best.