Hatton at 154. What would u say...

[Expert]

about him if he beats Sergeii Dzinziruk for the WBO Light Middleweight Title, or Travis Simms for the WBA Light Middleweight Title.

What would you say about him if he does something like that?

[SevenSamurai]

He is not suited to moving up in weight. By his own admission, he is short and small and the extra weight is just a hindrance to his own conditioning. I have no desire to see him move to 154.

[Expert]

He is not suited to moving up in weight. By his own admission, he is short and small and the extra weight is just a hindrance to his own conditioning. I have no desire to see him move to 154.

but in case he did and in case he beat, say, Sergeii Dzinziruk for the WBO Light Middleweight Title, what would you say about Hatton then?

[Expert]

He is not suited to moving up in weight. By his own admission, he is short and small and the extra weight is just a hindrance to his own conditioning. I have no desire to see him move to 154.

If Hatton became a Light Middleweight Champion I would say WOW

(the same thing I would say if De La Hoya became a Heavyweight Champion)

[NOrth]

He wont move up. Billy Graham didint want him at 147, Hatton didnt want to go to 147... he's a 140lb fighter and can dominate that division for the next 3 years before retiring a wealthy man and HOF er. One of his main attributes is his immense strength at the weight, why give it up?

[Max Molyneux]

The 147 excuse was crap but moving a stone I would believe would be too much for him.

[Amsterdam]

The 147 excuse was crap but moving a stone I would believe would be too much for him.

Travis Simms likely defeats any 154 pounder, probably could defeat most MW's also.

Hatton gets taken out in 3 rounds by Simms. If Hatton beat Simms, P4P #1, because there is not a 147 or 154 that I'd logically pick over Travis Simms, including Mosely, Cotto, Hoya, Floyd and the rest.

[NOrth]

The 147 excuse was crap but moving a stone I would believe would be too much for him.

I dont think it was crap as his whole training reigieme had been based on a fight at 140, then last min he had to change his diet and plan to accomodate the extra 7lbs. was it 4 or 5 weeks notice he got of the weight change? usually the change is known a good 12 weeks (if not longer) before. he also fought a very competant fighter in collazo. I'd like to see Luis in with some other top 147 ers. Mosley did a number on him, but he could be a real tests for other fighters at the weight.

[brown bomber]

Travis Simms likely defeats any 154 pounder, probably could defeat most MW's also.

Hatton gets taken out in 3 rounds by Simms. If Hatton beat Simms, P4P #1, because there is not a 147 or 154 that I'd logically pick over Travis Simms, including Mosely, Cotto, Hoya, Floyd and the rest. You really that impressed with him? I've onlyseen him once and thought he was pretty good. I'll have to watch more any recommendations?

[Charles187]

I dont think it was crap as his whole training reigieme had been based on a fight at 140, then last min he had to change his diet and plan to accomodate the extra 7lbs. was it 4 or 5 weeks notice he got of the weight change? usually the change is known a good 12 weeks (if not longer) before. he also fought a very competant fighter in collazo. I'd like to see Luis in with some other top 147 ers. Mosley did a number on him, but he could be a real tests for other fighters at the weight.

This is even justified as Collazo's next fight is up at 154.

[Smith]

He would never beat Travis Simms!!!!! 99% of the boxers at '47 and '54 couldnt beat Travis Simms, have you seen the guy fight mate?

[Smith]

Travis Simms likely defeats any 154 pounder, probably could defeat most MW's also.

Hatton gets taken out in 3 rounds by Simms. If Hatton beat Simms, P4P #1, because there is not a 147 or 154 that I'd logically pick over Travis Simms, including Mosely, Cotto, Hoya, Floyd and the rest.

Im in total Agreement. 7th July the world will see who's top dog

[NOrth]

This is even justified as Collazo's next fight is up at 154.

Isnt he a former champ at 154 too ? Dont see the point in his next fight, somehow Sharba Mitchell is fighting in an eliminator at 154 against collazo for the IBF (I think) title!! how mitchell deserves that si beyind me.

As for Travis Simms, he's good, but I dont think he's the best 154lber. I remember him winning the title with that punch on the break (or not as the ref ruled it).
Aside PBF and DLH, and assuming Mosley aint at the weight I dont think there are any stand out 154lbers.

[Charles187]

Isnt he a former champ at 154 too ? Dont see the point in his next fight, somehow Sharba Mitchell is fighting in an eliminator at 154 against collazo for the IBF (I think) title!! how mitchell deserves that si beyind me.

As for Travis Simms, he's good, but I dont think he's the best 154lber. I remember him winning the title with that punch on the break (or not as the ref ruled it).
Aside PBF and DLH, and assuming Mosley aint at the weight I dont think there are any stand out 154lbers.

I agree Mitchell doesnt deserve it but luis does - I was at his fight with Mosley and hes someone I really like. Had us in stitches dancing away to Shanes music as he was coming in!

[NOrth]

IMO Luis doesn't either. Coming off a loss, yet gets a title eliminator at a weight higher?? Good luck to him though, I'd bet a pound to a penny he beats mitchell up all night long.

[Charles187]

IMO Luis doesn't either. Coming off a loss, yet gets a title eliminator at a weight higher?? Good luck to him though, I'd bet a pound to a penny he beats mitchell up all night long.

I wouldn't detract anything from any fight that lost to mosley. Collazo ran Hatton close and did not duck mosley when he could have easily said there was not enough time to prepare and no-one would have thought any less of him. For this alone Im glad to see him get another shot.

[NOrth]

I didnt say I wasnt glad, neither do I want to take anything away from his performance with Mosley (although he didnt come in at late notice). I just dont think a fighter coming off a loss necesserilly "deserves" a title shot, or an eliminator at his own weight, let alone at the next weight up. Mind you, nothing in boxing makes sense anymore.

[Charles187]

I didnt say I wasnt glad, neither do I want to take anything away from his performance with Mosley (although he didnt come in at late notice). I just dont think a fighter coming off a loss necesserilly "deserves" a title shot, or an eliminator at his own weight, let alone at the next weight up. Mind you, nothing in boxing makes sense anymore.

Very true! It wasnt late notice but he wasnt first choice and he didnt get the normal amount of time you might expect - think about 6 weeks.

[Mendoza]

He is not suited to moving up in weight. By his own admission, he is short and small and the extra weight is just a hindrance to his own conditioning. I have no desire to see him move to 154.

Hatton is at his best at 140-147. 154 is too much weight for Hatton.

[NOrth]

No he isnt. He is the best 140lber in the world. But to say he's better than Mosley, Cotto, margarito, williams (we dont know quite how goos he is but we'll find out against marga) is questionable, i'd favour the oppo 60-40 in those fights (more with Mosley who I think would have his number stylistically). In my opinion fights against Clottey, Quintana, Judah, Baldomir are no more than 60-40 ni rickys favour.