View Full Version : Im conviced that Calzaghe fans are the most sophisticated Boxing fans!!!
chimba
11-04-2007, 10:23 PM
Damn I mean they almost had me there for a bit.. I mean who else but them can build up a fighter like Kessler to great status. And they did this months ahead in these forums...they did it so well that I had to look at Kessler in Wikepedia
You see the trick is to praise your fighters opponent in a very subtle manner and keep your fighters expectations low.
As a result when the expected (at least to alot of people who knows boxing) occurs
it is then followed by this surprised "Wow I didnt really think Joe was this great!" threads or "Wow Kesslers great, I told you so, he won 3 rounds, did you see that shot in round 4?" Clever aint it??
or
the more direct approach of "See I told yah Joes the greatest...look he dominated Kessler..which I told you was great!"
Such total unabashed mindgames to somehow project something as more than it is..which is a good fighter beating an average fighter in arguably the shallowest division in boxing.
Whats a pity thou...is alot of folks are really taken by this mental bombardment... Never in this forums history that a win of this significance swayed so many otherwise reasonable posters...
We even have one thread that states "70% Joe beats a 100% Kessler"
but done in a way that the poster geniunely believes that Joe isnt the same fighter as he once was...False humility at its finest.
Meanwhile we had another fight that night...lost in all of this was JMMs masterful performance...poor JMM..you wished you had Joes fans...I mean they could have built up Juarez to King Kong status.. he'd look rosy now
Stone_Roberto
11-04-2007, 10:29 PM
Stfu.
Calzaghe fans a FAR better then the annoying Pac fans. All fighters get ridiculous comments made about them after a win. It happens everytime. If Pac just beat someone you guys would be infinitely worse.
Stone_Roberto
11-04-2007, 10:35 PM
Exactly. No one ever did anything but lament his inability to get big fights over the last few years and when he killed Lacy everyone was estatic and now he proved what people have been saying for years.
chimba
11-04-2007, 10:38 PM
Calzaghe fans a FAR better then the annoying Pac fans. All fighters get ridiculous comments made about them after a win. It happens everytime. If Pac just beat someone you guys would be infinitely worse.
I have no problems with all the glee after your fighter fights...whats galling is to insult ones intelligence and make believe that Kessler is somewhat an insurmountable force to be reckoned with...And to do it in such sleigh of hand "Ohh I am now conviced how great Kessler is" ...geez he just got dominated!!
As the world saw yesterday...Kesslers is good but have alot of flaws..his footwork is terrible...
Im not sure what the odds are on this fight but People made alot of money on Joe
chimba
11-04-2007, 10:41 PM
Exactly. No one ever did anything but lament his inability to get big fights over the last few years and when he killed Lacy everyone was estatic and now he proved what people have been saying for years.
Look JCal is Top 3p4p Material..He'll be a stylistic nightmare for alot of guys..I frankly believe that he beats BHOP at this point..But to be so coy as to say "I was really surprised Joe did this tonight" " He proved how great he was" is to be straight..a bit corny
I have no problems with all the glee after your fighter fights...whats galling is to insult ones intelligence and make believe that Kessler is somewhat an insurmountable force to be reckoned with...And to do it in such sleigh of hand "Ohh I am now conviced how great Kessler is" ...geez he just got dominated!!
As the world saw yesterday...Kesslers is good but have alot of flaws..his footwork is terrible...
Im not sure what the odds are on this fight but People made alot of money on Joe
Kessler is one dimensional, and does have flaws. But he was also a tough unified world champion in his prime, fighting a guy who is right at the tail end of his career. The manner of the victory wasn't that great IMO. He didn't hurt Kessler, merely outboxed him.
70% Calzaghe beats 100% Kessler lol. That was a ridiculous thread and insulting to Kessler who if you know boxing, IS a damn good fighter. Even Emmanuel Steward the great american trainer was highly impressed. And do you think he was somehow influenced by the forums here?
What was also ridiculous was the people predicting dominate KO victories for either fighters.
Marnoff
11-04-2007, 11:30 PM
I saw the building up of Kessler far in advance as well, but to his credit he is indeed a solid fighter.
IrnBruMan
11-04-2007, 11:38 PM
Come on man, Kessler unified WBA and WBC SMW titles - he was/still is the real deal.
Farmboxer
11-04-2007, 11:43 PM
Kessler is awesome.
Calzaghe has been extremely underrated for years, he is the very best at this time!!!!!!!
chimba
11-04-2007, 11:55 PM
Kessler is awesome.
Calzaghe has been extremely underrated for years, he is the very best at this time!!!!!!!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
PATSYS
11-04-2007, 11:56 PM
Well if JC only fought big names during his time like Ottke, Hopkins, etc, he would have been given his due long time ago. So maybe he is underrated but that is due to his own doing.
mattress
11-05-2007, 03:01 AM
Well if JC only fought big names during his time like Ottke, Hopkins, etc, he would have been given his due long time ago. So maybe he is underrated but that is due to his own doing.
So not fighting those two was his fault??:patsch
zalman
11-05-2007, 03:46 AM
What a stupid topic...
Taffyy
11-05-2007, 03:51 AM
Damn I mean they almost had me there for a bit.. I mean who else but them can build up a fighter like Kessler to great status. And they did this months ahead in these forums...they did it so well that I had to look at Kessler in Wikepedia
You see the trick is to praise your fighters opponent in a very subtle manner and keep your fighters expectations low.
As a result when the expected (at least to alot of people who knows boxing) occurs
it is then followed by this surprised "Wow I didnt really think Joe was this great!" threads or "Wow Kesslers great, I told you so, he won 3 rounds, did you see that shot in round 4?" Clever aint it??
or
the more direct approach of "See I told yah Joes the greatest...look he dominated Kessler..which I told you was great!"
Such total unabashed mindgames to somehow project something as more than it is..which is a good fighter beating an average fighter in arguably the shallowest division in boxing.
Whats a pity thou...is alot of folks are really taken by this mental bombardment... Never in this forums history that a win of this significance swayed so many otherwise reasonable posters...
We even have one thread that states "70% Joe beats a 100% Kessler"
but done in a way that the poster geniunely believes that Joe isnt the same fighter as he once was...False humility at its finest.
Meanwhile we had another fight that night...lost in all of this was JMMs masterful performance...poor JMM..you wished you had Joes fans...I mean they could have built up Juarez to King Kong status.. he'd look rosy now
Kessler is the 2nd best SMW in the world , Hence him holding the belts until sun....???
So tell me retard how should we have judged Kessler prior to this fight.....???
chimba
11-05-2007, 10:44 AM
Kessler was more Force than Barrera & Morales at the time of when ur GOD fought them.
;)
:rofl :rofl :rofl Are you stupid...When PAC fough Erik and MAB, they were top 10 p4p FACT!. And when PAC fought MAB the fist time He was #3p4p
Kessler who? He's a somebody..in a division full of great fighters like Librade??...Whats next are we suppose to hype up Bute next as the new Canadian Destroyer? But knowing you Nutclingers, you'll be tootin Butes horn 6 months before the fight and hype how great and in his prime he is.
If Kessler is so great..then he'll find a way to comeback from obscurity after this boxing lesson:deal
Maybe he should drop weight and fight some guys here in America..
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