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renyo
11-05-2007, 08:49 PM
ok check this out. Mayweather most noteworthy opponent was a ringrusted De La Hoya . Now i am not taking away from his win because golden boy is always his threat however not very impressive , in my opinion. golden boy rarely fights anymore doesn,t stay in shape year round in order to still fight these huge fights.However that said with more recent activity i believe the outcome would have been different. Now on to pretty boy he beats Gatti, Judah,Baldomir,De LA HOYA ,sharmba mitchell, chop chop corley and he remains p4p#1 Now i am believing that most of these guys doing these ratings really like dancing with the stars better than a real fighter. One who bangs gets banged and whatever he needs to pull out the w against top fighters.I am not talking guys who don't mind an occasional loss. Let's start appreciating are true top competitors not just the ones who look cool when they do it.Why don't we reward these gladiators whose goal in the ring is to hurt their opponents . But instead we like these guys whose first concern is to not get hit. It's like their strategy is to stay away and if he's able to hit you run like hell jump forward throw one shot and get the hell outta there no combos no banging just speed .In my opinion find another sport and take these guys who rate you so high with them.This is the reason for losing fans not the talent. Its just that these type of guys get the major push

Marnoff
11-05-2007, 09:06 PM
"Now i am believing that most of these guys doing these ratings really like dancing with the stars better than a real fighter. One who bangs gets banged and whatever he needs to pull out the w against top fighters."

I knew you were an idiot when this part caught my eye. Hitting and getting hit doesn't make someone a top fighter. Your assertion that it does, is idiotic.

renyo
11-05-2007, 09:12 PM
idiot now obviosly that would be the women who chose not to have an abortion when your drunk dad left that rape dna sample in your moms old rathole of a snatch .guess you couldnt comment without getting offended Its alright I don't think your boyfriend will get mad at you if you take his sausage out of your mouth long enough to defend him logically

Lostmykeys
11-05-2007, 09:13 PM
ok check this out. Mayweather most noteworthy opponent was a ringrusted De La Hoya . Now i am not taking away from his win because golden boy is always his threat however not very impressive , in my opinion. golden boy rarely fights anymore doesn,t stay in shape year round in order to still fight these huge fights.However that said with more recent activity i believe the outcome would have been different. Now on to pretty boy he beats Gatti, Judah,Baldomir,De LA HOYA ,sharmba mitchell, chop chop corley and he remains p4p#1 Now i am believing that most of these guys doing these ratings really like dancing with the stars better than a real fighter. One who bangs gets banged and whatever he needs to pull out the w against top fighters.I am not talking guys who don't mind an occasional loss. Let's start appreciating are true top competitors not just the ones who look cool when they do it.Why don't we reward these gladiators whose goal in the ring is to hurt their opponents . But instead we like these guys whose first concern is to not get hit. It's like their strategy is to stay away and if he's able to hit you run like hell jump forward throw one shot and get the hell outta there no combos no banging just speed .In my opinion find another sport and take these guys who rate you so high with them.This is the reason for losing fans not the talent. Its just that these type of guys get the major push

Are people getting stupider?

joeboxer
11-05-2007, 09:17 PM
De La Hoya his only good win? I wouldnt call De La Hoya ring rusty, he had just crushed Mayorga. He has wins over champs like Baldomir,Gatti, Judah, Corrales, Castillo, etc. who hasn't he beat? and he takes tough fights like his upcoming bout against P4P top ten Hatton.

RealIzm
11-05-2007, 09:21 PM
ok check this out. Mayweather most noteworthy opponent was a ringrusted De La Hoya . Now i am not taking away from his win because golden boy is always his threat however not very impressive , in my opinion. golden boy rarely fights anymore doesn,t stay in shape year round in order to still fight these huge fights.However that said with more recent activity i believe the outcome would have been different. Now on to pretty boy he beats Gatti, Judah,Baldomir,De LA HOYA ,sharmba mitchell, chop chop corley and he remains p4p#1 Now i am believing that most of these guys doing these ratings really like dancing with the stars better than a real fighter. One who bangs gets banged and whatever he needs to pull out the w against top fighters.I am not talking guys who don't mind an occasional loss. Let's start appreciating are true top competitors not just the ones who look cool when they do it.Why don't we reward these gladiators whose goal in the ring is to hurt their opponents . But instead we like these guys whose first concern is to not get hit. It's like their strategy is to stay away and if he's able to hit you run like hell jump forward throw one shot and get the hell outta there no combos no banging just speed .In my opinion find another sport and take these guys who rate you so high with them.This is the reason for losing fans not the talent. Its just that these type of guys get the major pushI know what your trying to say. Keep trying mate:lol: :lol: Sure it's easy to question Mayweathers resume however he has ruined quite a few reputable fighters records in their primes(De la Hoya excluded)but I do think he needs to do abit more before retireing to solidify the legacy he claims he already has. Cheers mates:good

renyo
11-05-2007, 09:22 PM
Are people getting stupider? ok now you guys slam pac man, cotto, pavlik but can't take it when someone takes a crack at their boyfriend. Did you ever wonder why when you play smeer the queer they always threw you the ball

Lostmykeys
11-05-2007, 09:24 PM
ok now you guys slam pac man, cotto, pavlik but can't take it when someone takes a crack at their boyfriend. Did you ever wonder why when you play smeer the queer they always threw you the ball

Lick my dick pussy.

renyo
11-05-2007, 09:26 PM
ok hatton is a challenge and de la hoya was to but since coming up from 130 he has not been p4p for me ok maybe it just wasn't him maybe it was lack of great fighters where he was at However right now the division is stacked so in order to be claimed p4p you have to at least be the top dog in your division and as of now i do not see that being the case

renyo
11-05-2007, 09:30 PM
as far as oscar wooping mayorga yea impressive but it was a year from the mayweather fight and won't just take one to give one he'll take 3 for breakfast 3for lunch 3 for dinner and maybe 2 for a midnight snack and call it a night that's what he's paid to do just like gatti was

RealIzm
11-05-2007, 09:37 PM
Lick my dick pussy.Well now mate arent you an immature vulgarian. Well mate I'm sure you lostyourkeys because your a fuckin dumb idiot. Mayweather sucks a fat cock and will be nursing broken ribs after dec 8 so swirl that around for abit and spit it on the picture of PBF you have next to your bed. Cheers mate:good

brooklyn1550
11-05-2007, 09:40 PM
Because he's beaten plenty of title holders and champions. Plus he has won titles from 130 to 154.

cardstars
11-05-2007, 09:42 PM
You are obviously a well versed man. Just check out how you respond to people who don't agree with you. I am sure you come up with some sort of awesome jr high name to call me, but in advance: I don't give a shit. To respond to your entire ranting, retarded post (if it doen't get deleted before I finish this) - I have a few points to make.
First off Mayweather has the nickname "pretty boy" for a reason. It's because as you pointed out he doesn't get hit very much (or flush for that matter). In the sport of boxing this is very hard to do; its called DEFENSE ***gasp***. What you are looking for is basically two football teams to line up and go at each other without defenses. The man wants to have some brain cells left after he retires (even though I admit he doesn't seem to have that many right now as it is). The reason he, and others like him, are ranked so high is because the p4p rankings are meant to rank the hardest boxers out there TO BEAT. Maybe their styles are not crowd pleasing but you have to admit that Mayweather is extremely hard to beat because of his defensive genius. If you don't like the rankings, or boxing for that matter whichit seems like you are bitching about, then go watch some ufc or wwf. Boxing is called "the sweet science" for a reason, and some people can't appreciate it because it requires some actual thinking and strategy instead of a gladiator in the coliseum aspect. But ask yourself this question: why should two fighters just stand in front of each other and trade bombs? Put yourself in their shoes; don't you want to move out of the way of the other guys punches instead of stand there and take them???

Toopretty
11-05-2007, 09:49 PM
Well now mate arent you an immature vulgarian. Well mate I'm sure you lostyourkeys because your a fuckin dumb idiot. Mayweather sucks a fat cock and will be nursing broken ribs after dec 8 so swirl that around for abit and spit it on the picture of PBF you have next to your bed. Cheers mate:good


You are on funny brit bitch...:lol: You say some down right gay shit as well. Must be in your bloodline.

IrnBruMan
11-05-2007, 09:50 PM
idiot now obviosly that would be the women who chose not to have an abortion when your drunk dad left that rape dna sample in your moms old rathole of a snatch .guess you couldnt comment without getting offended Its alright I don't think your boyfriend will get mad at you if you take his sausage out of your mouth long enough to defend him logically

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Lostmykeys
11-05-2007, 09:51 PM
Well now mate arent you an immature vulgarian. Well mate I'm sure you lostyourkeys because your a fuckin dumb idiot. Mayweather sucks a fat cock and will be nursing broken ribs after dec 8 so swirl that around for abit and spit it on the picture of PBF you have next to your bed. Cheers mate:good

Go suck some of your own cum from your boyfriend's asshole.

Illmatic
11-05-2007, 09:54 PM
hes been p4p for ten years, undisputed at 130, 135, 147, titles at 154, 140. Wins over ATG DLH in his first fight in his 5th weight class, p4p fighters: castillo, corrales, hatton, and when he first negotiated fight with Judah, Judah was top 13 p4p and undisputed welterweight champ.

renyo
11-05-2007, 09:56 PM
ok it is about hitting and not getting hit but it is also about seeking the highest level of competition yes i believe in the sweet science but as a fan of the sport i believe in getting to the next level of competition .Now all great fighters throghout history have been through a war whose style match up is as good or better than his .Now for example sugar shane took on two relatively unknown except to the true fans in forrest then later on in winky in taking these fights he knew the risk reward factor was very lopsided in the risk side however in order for him to know that he was the best these were the type of guys he would need to face.relentless pressur orthodox fighters who could take one to give one

badger6
11-05-2007, 09:58 PM
idiot now obviosly that would be the women who chose not to have an abortion when your drunk dad left that rape dna sample in your moms old rathole of a snatch .guess you couldnt comment without getting offended Its alright I don't think your boyfriend will get mad at you if you take his sausage out of your mouth long enough to defend him logically
Ha, ha, ha, total obliteration !!!!:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Lick my dick pussy.
You have a dick pussy ???

See a doctor asap !!!!

RealIzm
11-05-2007, 10:00 PM
Go suck some of your own cum from your boyfriend's asshole.horrible comback mate. very sad if thats the extent of your creativity. You must be a kid.:-(

IrnBruMan
11-05-2007, 10:07 PM
There is an element of truth in the OP - PBF does not appeal to the masses because of his fighting style - it's easy to write off said masses as having no appreciation of the sweet science, but up until he fought Gatti, he wasn't well known by the public, and even now, after the DLH fight, his crossover appeal isn't as good as it could be, because all it takes is a casual fan to watch just one of his fights and think he's boring and never watch him again.

RealIzm
11-05-2007, 10:10 PM
You are on funny brit bitch...:lol: You say some down right gay shit as well. Must be in your bloodline.:lol: :lol: It's somewhat hard not to make that assesment with all the PBF nuthuggin going on. I understand being a fan thats great however it gets a very narrow minded and biased which leads to a madhouse instead of a mature discussion. So sometimes I can't help but fuel the fire if that's all thats left. Cheers mate:good

Zakman
11-05-2007, 10:16 PM
idiot now obviosly that would be the women who chose not to have an abortion when your drunk dad left that rape dna sample in your moms old rathole of a snatch .guess you couldnt comment without getting offended Its alright I don't think your boyfriend will get mad at you if you take his sausage out of your mouth long enough to defend him logically
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Now this may be the best "newbie" post of the year!! :good :lol:

Of course, it has NOTHING to do with what the other poster said, which makes it even MORE funny! :rofl