Pernell Whitaker/Winky Wright

[jyuza]

I just thought about it (I don't know how I couldn't).

At 154, who win and why ?

[JohnThomas1]

Winky is too big at this weight.

[jyuza]

Winky is too big at this weight.

So was Vasquez (the man who beat Winky).

And Pea outboxed him.

[JohnThomas1]

So was Vasquez (the man who beat Winky).

And Pea outboxed him.

Personally i class Winky in a totally different category to Vasquez tho it was still a great win considering.

[good right hand]

it such a shame because these are two great fighters with great talent i can just see a incredably boring fight.

i think whitaker would win because after the first two largic round winky will begin to stalk with his good defense and southpaw jab and pernell will make him miss and jab the tip of wrights nose, which is about the only scoring area that you can really hit wright at because of his very tight earmuff defense (you cant even hit wright with body shots! his arms cover his entire rib cage!)

is see pernell winning a close and very very boring decision.

[PowerPuncher]

Personally i class Winky in a totally different category to Vasquez tho it was still a great win considering.

How can Winky be a different category to Vasquez when Vasquez knocked Winky down 7 times and won pretty much every round against him?

[Asterion]

Winky was green when he lost against Vasquez. I say Winky defeats Pernell by a boring UD at 154.

[brooklyn1550]

Winky by decision

[unitas]

draw. a boring one. pea would slip winkys punches.....winkey blocks peas punches........no one lands. a draw.

[JohnThomas1]

How can Winky be a different category to Vasquez when Vasquez knocked Winky down 7 times and won pretty much every round against him?

Wright got substancially better later on.

[brownpimp88]

Big and strong has nothing to do with it, as Whitaker proved time and again against bigger fighters. Give other reasons, considering Winky isn't really a fighter who uses his size and strength to his advantage anyway, but rather his skills.
Besides vasquez, who else has whitaker beat that around winky's size? I mean mcgirt is a natural 140, chavez was a natural superfeatherweight. Winky and Terry Norris would thoroughly dominate pernell at 154 by outboxing the smaller fighter.

[rekcutnevets]

Vasquez is a different style match up. Winky looks to be a better fighter now than he did in the late 90's, the loss to Vasquez was in the earlier 90's. Winky has improved a lot since then.

With Whitaker being a southpaw, he would not have the same problem with his jab lining up properly that orthodox fighters have. Whitaker would not make the same mistake Mosley made, it was not in his nature. Shane sometimes tries to out athlete the people he fights, instead of beating them with teqhnique.

I think that Wright, at his peak, is a smart fighter. He is not a booming puncher, but he is strong in his division. Look at how Mosley looked against Wright. Mosley is no Tommy Hearns at welterweight, but he is a strong puncher there.

The problem for Whitaker is that his punches may not look hard enough to compete with Wright, if Wright is busy. I like Whitaker's style against Wright's, but the impact of their punches could tell the tale.

I'll say Whitaker by decision, but I won't be surprised if it were to go the other way.

[brownpimp88]

Vasquez is enough, and Oscar was pretty damn big as well. IMO, an old past his prime Pernell beat a prime Oscar at 147, so a prime Pea at 147 would've handled him. If he could handle Oscar, I think he at least gives Norris a good fight, though I'd probably lean towards Norris in that one, and beat Winky due to styles. He beat Vasquez thouroughly, badly outboxed him, and tyou think Winky dominates him? Your logic on Pernell is VERY flawed. You think he was godly at LW and anything after LW he was basically shit. Sorry to inform you, but that isn't true AT ALL. He was great past LW as well, and could've stood up to anyone up to 147 of all time. Due to style IMO he beats Winky in a close fight.
I had him losing the de la hoya fight, but thats a completely different matter. IMO, whitaker above 135 would lose to most ATG and i will stick with that line of thinking. At 135, he would beat everybody, it's his invincible weight class. However, i would have trinidad beating him everytime at 147 and i think aaron pryor would kick his ass everytime they fight at 140. Winky would shit kick pernell and make a fool of him, the height, reach and overall size is too much for the puny whitaker.

[brownpimp88]

Good God man! You think he whoops Duran but loses to sloppy ass Pryor? He would put a boxing clinic on Pryor! Trinidad would get thoroughly outboxed by a prime Pea, are you serious? Good God dude, it's not like he started sucking as soon as he left LW.
He barely beat buddy mcgirt, he barely beat wilfredo rivera(some think he lost this fight), he was getting shit kicked by hurtado. Yeah, the welterweight version of pernell wasn't that great.

[doublesuited]

If you're going to factor in Winky's loss to Vasquez then it's only fair to factor in Pernell's loss to Tito... Winky was that green.

[sweet_scientist]

I think Pea did well enough to beat Vasquez largely due to two things:
1. He was strong enough to stand up to Vasquez
2. Vasquez was a fairly limited boxer, which allowed Pernell to avoid a lot of his shots despite being quite slowed himself

The problem with facing Winky won't necessarily be that Winky will be too big for him (though of course this will make it difficult), it will be that Winky will be quick enough to hit Pernell quite a bit, where Vasquez couldn't. With a diminished workrate, I don't see Pea throwing or landing enough to beat Winky. Winky could throw 100 punches per round at 154, Pernell can't. It would be a close fight, but Winky would probably just outwork him and land enough shots to edge it.

[jyuza]

If you're going to factor in Winky's loss to Vasquez then it's only fair to factor in Pernell's loss to Tito... Winky was that green.

And Pernell that shot.

[achillesthegreat]

Wright - he was a big man and fought like it. Pea wasn't legendary at 154 despite getting an impressive win over Vasquez. You can't pot shot or pick Wright apart if you are smaller. You need to be the same size as him i.e. Vargas and Taylor, even then you may still lose.

[KOTF]

Winky UD

[bodhi]

Winky was green when he lost against Vasquez. I say Winky defeats Pernell by a boring UD at 154.

And he fought totally different than in his prime. Winky´s size, defence and workrate is just too much.

[Popkins]

I'd edge to Winky. Pea would give him a real fight, because he was still tough as nails at 154 and still had the handspeed and the skills, but ultimately he would not be able to hurt Winky at all and therefore would not be able to deter him walking forward, applying pressure, and unloading a high volume of punches each round. A competitive, bruising, engaging contest would end 116-112 for Wink.

[Son of Gaul]

I just thought about it (I don't know how I couldn't).

At 154, who win and why ?

Close, but Winky...

[errsta]

Insomnia gets KO'd inside of 3 rounds.

[MAG1965]

I think Whitaker would win this fight by UD. In the ring Whitaker was too quick even for Winky.