View Full Version : Brewster - Wlad winner and Chagaev - Ibragimov winner must clash
Artani
06-29-2007, 09:31 AM
Brewster - Wlad winner and Chagaev - Ibragimov winner must clash to have number one heavyweight in this dificult era. The first fight will happen next week and we will know one of them but we will wait till October to see winner of unification of WBA and WBO and winner of them will be good to fight in the early year of 2008 winner of Brewster - Wlad to see real champion today .
What you think who is the best guy of this four ?
For my oppinion Brewster, Wlad and Chagaev have same chances, Ibragimov staying out of my list.
Beatboxer
06-29-2007, 09:32 AM
Wlad or Ruslan
Im a big Wlad fan but i have a feeling Ruslan might just have it in him to beat him...
I'd love to see that fight happen but it looks as though the IBF will force the winner of Wladimir/Brewster to fight the winner of the Calvin Brock vs (I don't remember) next.
DamonD
06-29-2007, 10:09 AM
Yeah. Nevermind 'must', in terms of 'will' happen I have my doubts.
But then, Ibragimov and Chagaev pleasently surprised me with the speed in which they arranged a unification bout.
Alcaldemb
06-29-2007, 01:18 PM
I think Ruslan makes much easier work of Sultan than some people think. I expect Wlad to beat Lamon but wouldn't be shocked if Lamon won. Artani is right though, the winners of these two fights must fight each other.
In a Chagaev vs Klitschko match I will favor Chagaev. I think he can deal with a height and reach disadvantage, has a solid enough chin to take Wlad's shot but good enough defense to avoid it, he also has the power to hurt Wladimir as well as underrated speed and timing by some to get his punch there.
C Money
06-29-2007, 01:25 PM
THEN FACE THE Maskaev vs Peter winner:good
THEN you get unification and undisputed.
I'd like to see Wlad vs Chagaev. I like Chagaev, but Wlad isn't a Ruiz or Valuev. Chagaev doesn't go the distance this time. Wlad by mid rounds TKO. Chagaev, just another victim.
Artani
06-29-2007, 04:36 PM
THEN FACE THE Maskaev vs Peter winner:good
THEN you get unification and undisputed.
I forget Peter , he is one of the best :good
Artani
06-29-2007, 04:38 PM
I think Ruslan makes much easier work of Sultan than some people think. I expect Wlad to beat Lamon but wouldn't be shocked if Lamon won. Artani is right though, the winners of these two fights must fight each other.
In a Chagaev vs Klitschko match I will favor Chagaev. I think he can deal with a height and reach disadvantage, has a solid enough chin to take Wlad's shot but good enough defense to avoid it, he also has the power to hurt Wladimir as well as underrated speed and timing by some to get his punch there.
Thanks for suport Alcademb :good
Asterion
06-29-2007, 04:43 PM
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It would be great, but I doubt it will happen. The IBF will make Wlad/Brewster fight a mandatory.
The winner of Chagaev-Ibragimov will want to fight a 'welcome' easy title defense after the unification fight.
The winner of Peter-Maskaev will fight Vitali and then Oliver McCall.
ajohnfp
06-29-2007, 04:49 PM
I would be willing to call the winner of that tournament the heavyweight champion of the world.
Alcaldemb
06-29-2007, 05:37 PM
Thanks for suport Alcademb :good
No problem Artani.
Artani
06-29-2007, 08:47 PM
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It would be great, but I doubt it will happen. The IBF will make Wlad/Brewster fight a mandatory.
The winner of Chagaev-Ibragimov will want to fight a 'welcome' easy title defense after the unification fight.
The winner of Peter-Maskaev will fight Vitali and then Oliver McCall.
What i heard Asterion is that Vitali can fight in the WBO , its posible fight betwen Krasniqi - Vitali for WBO Interim title. This fight can bring to much money in the Germany. Krasniqi is training with Vitali and Dimitrenko in the Hamburg with trainer Sdunek. THis i heard before, Vitali will afraid to fight Peter im sure on that , its easy with Krasniqi and this fight will take more money and easy fight for world title. Something have here Asterion because Vitali payed in the WBO to be more high in the WBO rankings.
BoxingGuru
06-29-2007, 08:50 PM
Vitali will afraid to fight Peter im sure on that ,
Vitali, with one of the highest knockout percentages in history, afraid to fight Scam Cheater, a man who has never EVER knocked out a top 10 heavyweight? You're fucking kidding me right?
Lewis is MILES above Scam Cheater in skill.
psychopath
06-29-2007, 08:53 PM
Brewster - Wlad winner and Chagaev - Ibragimov winner must clash
For what ever reason . . . YES!
That will make this divsion rise from the dead. Forget the craps, the hypes and bullshits. :yep
RUSKULL
06-29-2007, 08:55 PM
I'd love to see that fight happen but it looks as though the IBF will force the winner of Wladimir/Brewster to fight the winner of the Calvin Brock vs (I don't remember) next.
I believe it will be the winner of Byrd vs. Brock and that's quite sad really.
Wlad recently destroyed both and who wants to see him kill one of them next time? Not me, I love a challenge. :yep
These guys clearly are made to order for Wlad style wise.
3 wins vs. Byrd or 2 vs. Brock do shit for Wlad's legacy.......................
The time to unify is upon us :deal No need for the Ruiz's or Byrd's to fuck that up.
RUSKULL
06-29-2007, 08:57 PM
I'd like to see Wlad vs Chagaev. I like Chagaev, but Wlad isn't a Ruiz or Valuev. Chagaev doesn't go the distance this time. Wlad by mid rounds TKO. Chagaev, just another victim.
Chagaev is a decent HW boxer but Wlad's a great one. :deal
Time will tell.
RUSKULL
06-29-2007, 08:58 PM
I forget Peter , he is one of the best :good
Peter isn't much more than a "blip" on the HW horizon. Wlad bested him once & Klitschko KO's him next time, mark my words.................
C Money
06-29-2007, 09:05 PM
Peter isn't much more than a "blip" on the HW horizon. Wlad bested him once & Klitschko KO's him next time, mark my words.................
Yes Wlad beat Peter(despite being knockeddown tiwce and in serious trouble) but Peter is certainly more than a BLIP. He''ll be a Champion soon enough as Maskaev vs Peter is supposed to happen.
Clearly that winner, a long with the Wlad vs Brewster and Chagaev vs Ibragimov winners are the players in the HW division. they are all parts of the UNIFICATION equation. BA, BF, BC and even the Bo would be represented through the matchups:good
RUSKULL
06-29-2007, 09:06 PM
What i heard Asterion is that Vitali can fight in the WBO , its posible fight betwen Krasniqi - Vitali for WBO Interim title. This fight can bring to much money in the Germany. Krasniqi is training with Vitali and Dimitrenko in the Hamburg with trainer Sdunek. THis i heard before, Vitali will afraid to fight Peter im sure on that , its easy with Krasniqi and this fight will take more money and easy fight for world title. Something have here Asterion because Vitali payed in the WBO to be more high in the WBO rankings.
Vitali scared of Peter? Smoke another blunt there dude. :rasta
First of all Peter ain't shit IMO. :nono
Top 10 yes but to be feared? :huh By who?
None of the real top 10 HW boxers fear Peter because he hasn't KO'd a single top 10 HW ever. :deal
That's a fact. He won a close but hotly disputed decison against an old, fat former Middleweight and then he beat that same MW by easy UD. So what? That same old, fat fighter barely scraped a decision win vs. a nobody in his very next fight! A fight most thought he lost.
That should be enough to put Peter's win into perspective shouldn't it?
C Money
06-29-2007, 09:14 PM
Vitali scared of Peter? Smoke another blunt there dude. :rasta
First of all Peter ain't shit IMO. :nono
Top 10 yes but to be feared? :huh By who?
None of the real top 10 HW boxers fear Peter because he hasn't KO'd a single top 10 HW ever. :deal
That's a fact. He won a close but hotly disputed decison against an old, fat former Middleweight and then he beat that same MW by easy UD. So what? That same old, fat fighter barely scraped a decision win vs. a nobody in his very next fight! A fight most thought he lost.
That should be enough to put Peter's win into perspective shouldn't it?
Its ok if you dont like Peter, but give the man some credit, he damn near took Wlad out. Now close doesnt count and I realize that, but Peter is one of the top 5 HW's right now. IMO ,Wlad and Peter are 1, 2.
We would all be winners if the Brewster - Wlad winner and Chagaev - Ibragimov winner and Maskaev vs Peter winners came together.
RUSKULL
06-30-2007, 09:07 AM
Its ok if you dont like Peter, but give the man some credit, he damn near took Wlad out. Now close doesnt count and I realize that, but Peter is one of the top 5 HW's right now. IMO ,Wlad and Peter are 1, 2.
We would all be winners if the Brewster - Wlad winner and Chagaev - Ibragimov winner and Maskaev vs Peter winners came together.
Peter is way overrated. Chagaev has done more & I'd favor him to beat Sam. I'd call Sultan vs. Peter a 50-50% fight.................
Vitali Klitschko would destroy Luan Kransniqi it would not even be close. I would laugh if this fight ever happens, total mismatch, no way would Kransniqi hang in there with Vitali past 5 rounds.
MachineGunMitch
06-30-2007, 09:16 AM
I think Peter is next,and Peter will demolish him in 3 rounds
I think Peter is next,and Peter will demolish him in 3 rounds
Peter? :lol::lol::lol::lol: He has yet to knock out a top 50 Heavyweight, could not even KO Glass Jaw Wlad Klitschko. You are delusional.
Bummy Davis
06-30-2007, 09:30 AM
As long as Brewster does not win, there will be a unification, Brewster brings King into the quotation and kING WILL WANT TO HOLD ON TO HIS MARBLES, If sultan/Ruslin fight they will fight Vlad if he wins,Vlad is the man to beat, then the winner of Peter/Oleg, he wants to unify and they all want $$$$
As long as Brewster does not win, there will be a unification, Brewster brings King into the quotation and kING WILL WANT TO HOLD ON TO HIS MARBLES, If sultan/Ruslin fight they will fight Vlad if he wins,Vlad is the man to beat, then the winner of Peter/Oleg, he wants to unify and they all want $$$$
Brewster is not with King anymore.
Heavyrighthand
06-30-2007, 10:07 AM
Brewster is not with King anymore.
Right. We've finally seen King unwillingly extracted from the heavyweight title picture like someone plucking a blood sucking leech off of their skin.
But if Peter beats Maskaev, that sucker will be back in bitness, once again. At least, he'll then have the WBC, which some see as the main title of the big three.
But as I said before, the pressure from fans, boxing commentators, and boxing column writers, alike, will be undeniable, as they all push for the Chag Sultan winner to fight another titleholder.
I think that will be the biggest talk in the heavyweight division. Everyone will be asking; When will they continue with this great thing that they've started?
I see Chag winning his fight, and Wlad winning his fight, so given the apparent distaste that the Chag promoter has for the K boys, I don't see that fight happening.
But the winner of the WBC title fiasco is another possibility. But that will be a long time before they get that settled, as they have mandatories lined up, three deep, waiting for Maskaev.
So all that said, I think this first unification fight is all we'll be seeing as far as unification goes, for some time, yet. But I am just happy and very excited that we finally have the first unification fight. Cause when you are starving, even one bite is very appreciated.
SevenSamurai
06-30-2007, 10:34 AM
Wlad or Chagaev are the best. It would be a close fight going to the scorecards.
Who the f*** is Brewster anyway? What has he done in his career apart from stopping a drugged Wlad after having his ass pounded for 5 rounds? Ibaragimov will be handled easily by Chagaev.
SevenSamurai
06-30-2007, 10:36 AM
Vitali scared of Peter? Smoke another blunt there dude. :rasta
First of all Peter ain't shit IMO. :nono
Top 10 yes but to be feared? :huh By who?
None of the real top 10 HW boxers fear Peter because he hasn't KO'd a single top 10 HW ever. :deal
That's a fact. He won a close but hotly disputed decison against an old, fat former Middleweight and then he beat that same MW by easy UD. So what? That same old, fat fighter barely scraped a decision win vs. a nobody in his very next fight! A fight most thought he lost.
That should be enough to put Peter's win into perspective shouldn't it?
Right on about Sam Peter. Could not have said it better myself.:deal
RUSKULL
06-30-2007, 10:49 AM
Right on about Sam Peter. Could not have said it better myself.:deal
:good I'm here to help! :deal :thumbsup
RUSKULL
06-30-2007, 10:54 AM
I think Peter is next,and Peter will demolish him in 3 rounds
Peter has his hands full with Maskaev & I think Oleg is a better boxer and he has power too. The only reason that people like you are on Peter's sack is because of Oleg's chin.....................well, Rahman couldn't find that chin in his 2 fights with Oleg and I think Rahman is a better boxer than Peter too. He has a far better jab anyway.
Vitali scared of Peter? Smoke another blunt there dude. :rasta
First of all Peter ain't shit IMO. :nono
Top 10 yes but to be feared? :huh By who?
None of the real top 10 HW boxers fear Peter because he hasn't KO'd a single top 10 HW ever. :deal
That's a fact. He won a close but hotly disputed decison against an old, fat former Middleweight and then he beat that same MW by easy UD. So what? That same old, fat fighter barely scraped a decision win vs. a nobody in his very next fight! A fight most thought he lost.
That should be enough to put Peter's win into perspective shouldn't it?
you would think so, but some around here still have him the man to beat, it must have been his KO over Julious Long:-(
Asterion
06-30-2007, 12:16 PM
What i heard Asterion is that Vitali can fight in the WBO , its posible fight betwen Krasniqi - Vitali for WBO Interim title. This fight can bring to much money in the Germany. Krasniqi is training with Vitali and Dimitrenko in the Hamburg with trainer Sdunek. THis i heard before, Vitali will afraid to fight Peter im sure on that , its easy with Krasniqi and this fight will take more money and easy fight for world title. Something have here Asterion because Vitali payed in the WBO to be more high in the WBO rankings.
That makes sense.
Ibragimov is fighting a unification bout, so the WBO needs an Interim Champ indeed. The Krasniqi-Vitali winner would be perfect for that.
:happy
C Money
06-30-2007, 01:00 PM
Peter is way overrated. Chagaev has done more & I'd favor him to beat Sam. I'd call Sultan vs. Peter a 50-50% fight.................
Like I said, its fine to have whatever opinion you like.
AS LONG AS YOU INCLUDE THE MASKAEV vs PETER Winner, in with the Wlad vs Brewster, ChAgaev vs Ibeagimov winner as the group that determines the HW CHAMPION. The difference between opinions and facts are determined by results.
ibragimovfan
06-30-2007, 01:31 PM
ibragimov is the best out of all the heavyweights and will prove himself. i expect him to win a decision over ruslan and eventually a decision over maskaev or wlad. he is extremely good and soon the world will see that.
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