If Calzaghe calls Hopkins bluff?

[David UK]

And agrees to fight Hopkins in the USA, will Borenard bottle it again?

[PH|LLA]

its all about the split. Its gonna be tough for them to agree.

[Illmatic]

hopkins knows better than to take this fight, he;ll price himself out like he did with jones.

[ralphc]

There is no bluff too it. If Hopkins doesn't show him the money the fight ain't happening.

[Rumsfeld]

And agrees to fight Hopkins in the USA, will Borenard bottle it again?

BLUFF??

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You Calzaghe fans are on some strong fucking drugs!

[FlatNose]

The big problem with Calzaghe coming to the States is, no matter how much he's offered, he'd make more in Britan.Now, we're talking professional boxing here, and usually professionals go where the money is.Kessler got a fair shake, scoring wise, and Hopkins lost two squeakers to Taylor in the US, so does the venue really matter that much as far as decisions go? I've seen some really bad decisions in the US and everywhere for that matter.
So if Hopkins really wants to fight, he should call British Airways, or just STFU.

[Rumsfeld]

The big problem with Calzaghe coming to the States is, no matter how much he's offered, he'd make more in Britan.

How much does Calzaghe make in his typical fight>

So if Hopkins really wants to fight, he should call British Airways, or just STFU.

Pray tell, why did Calzaghe say he'd fight Hopkins in the US???

[Brooklyn Boxer]

If Hopkins don't fight Calzaghe he will retire. I think he'll will fight Joe and It won't matter about money. He's fighting for his legacy in boxing history. Hopkins is not scared to fight Calzaghe and he will fight him.

[Rumsfeld]

If Hopkins don't fight Calzaghe he will retire. I think he'll will fight Joe and It won't matter about money. He's fighting for his legacy in boxing history. Hopkins is not scared to fight Calzaghe and he will fight him.

When Hopkins came back, I understood it was for three fights.

He beat Winky. Calzaghe will be next. After that, I'm assuming he'll give one last effort to angle for a fight with Jones.

[BewareofDawg]

I hope to god Calzaghe comes over here and fights him at the Garden. Hopkins will ass rape him in the ring....literally. He's going hold and rough him up. Calzaghe will drop the decision and all credibility in the US, and then sit in JFK while his commercial, non-first class flight is 3 hours delayed, while some little kid whispers to his mom "Mommy, that guy sure talks funny....." :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Taffyy]

In an interview on local S.Wales TV he said plain & simple he fight Hopkins for the money as thats what its all about..............If the money is right & Berny does'nt shit out then he'll fight in front of a crappy american crowd , beat hopkins & ride off into the sunset with an unbeaten record & lots of money.......Job done....!!!!!!!!!

[Rumsfeld]

I hope to god Calzaghe comes over here and fights him at the Garden. Hopkins will ass rape him in the ring....literally. He's going hold and rough him up. Calzaghe will drop the decision and all credibility in the US, and then sit in JFK while his commercial, non-first class flight is 3 hours delayed :rofl :rofl :rofl

Spot-on.

:smoke

[Rumsfeld]

Old Bernie will back out just like he did last time.

Why the fuck would Hopkins back-out against Calzaghe, when he's already beaten fighters far superior?

:smoke

[Taffyy]

Spot-on.

:smoke
Stay off that hillbilly heroin boys...........:rofl :rofl :rofl

[BewareofDawg]

Stay off that hillbilly heroin boys...........:rofl :rofl :rofl
:lol: Go brush your teeth you limey brit! You hate on Hopkins because he has a nicer smile then 1/2 your country :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Rumsfeld]

Hopkins wouldn`t last 6 rounds against the great JC.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[baguettesurgeon]

:lol: Go brush your teeth you limey brit! You hate on Hopkins because he has a nicer smile then 1/2 your country :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

You judge a fighter on their smile?:lol:

No wonder you fancy oscar

[Rumsfeld]

Hopkins beat better fighters? hahah who?
Put Tito and DLH in one ring with Calzaghe and he would kill them. Come on DLH will fight at WW again, he is a small motherfucker compared to Hopkins. @MW he was just a little boy, and should have lost against Sturm, a average contender.
How good Tito is you could see against WW.
Fuck Hopkins fought only undersized guys and a shot Tarver. he is fucking overrated. But he is very smart so he will duck Joe like he did years ago.

Hopkins has defeated three men who were universally recognized as top ten pound-for-pounders when he fought them--arguably top five.

Calzaghe has never fought anyone with that distinction--ever.

:smoke

[BewareofDawg]

Hopkins beat better fighters? hahah who?
Put Tito and DLH in one ring with Calzaghe and he would kill them. Come on DLH will fight at WW again, he is a small motherfucker compared to Hopkins. @MW he was just a little boy, and should have lost against Sturm, a average contender.
How good Tito is you could see against WW.
Fuck Hopkins fought only undersized guys and a shot Tarver. he is fucking overrated. But he is very smart so he will duck Joe like he did years ago.
Tarver, although I fucking hate him, is better than anyone on Calzaghe's resume. So is Winky Wright and so is Jermain Taylor. So is the undefeated Tito Trinidad that Hopkins destroyed. :deal

[BewareofDawg]

You judge a fighter on their smile?:lol:

No wonder you fancy oscar
:yep Its not Oscars smile I like.

[BewareofDawg]

Whats with this gang of "Newbies" on this thread??? What no established posters want to jump on Team Calzaghe here? :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol:

[Rumsfeld]

1. there wasn't a so called p4p-fighter in the SMW for the last 10 years

That's the whole fucking point!! Calzaghe has never faced the type of elite opposition that Hopkins has!

2. Tito was p4p, and Winky but both guys are smaller than Hopkins by far. Again Joe would also beat Mayweather, but is this impressive?? Tarver war shot a his performance against the Albanien-guy showed how shot he was.

Tito was middleweight champion when Hopkins fought him, and Winky was universally recognized as a top five pound-for-fpound pugilist. He and Hopkins were both recently had fights at 160 prior to this.

Nice try, bucko.

:smoke

[Punisher33]

Calzaghe ducked fighters for 10 years fighting in his home town, most of the guys he fought as champ I never even heard of before.

[surreal deal]

BLUFF??

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You Calzaghe fans are on some strong fucking drugs!
amazing as he is,i really dont think bernard fancies this fight rumsy.
im sure you disagree,but watch;i'll bet the sticking points come from your boy.
moreover b hop isnt great box-office so he doesnt have THAT much bargaining power.
He's usually the b side of a blockbuster.

[Motor City Sam]

Lack of confidence??

Phone him up and ask him why he agreed to fight Calzaghe and the 24 hrs later demanded double the amount he`d previously accepted.

Hopkins wouldn`t last 6 rounds against the great JC.

Wilson, that's really not the way that went down. There are two sides to every story, but I doubt even Joe C. wouldn't agree with the way you characterized that situation.

[WelshintheUS]

Nard would get proper fucked and he knows it.
Calzaghe is too fast too strong and too crafty.

You doodle dandies need to get your myopic glasses off and respect boxers for their abilities rather than their nationalities otherwise you aint gonna have anybody left to support soon.

[Brooklyn Boxer]

If Hopkins don't fight Joe who will he fight? nobody. Joe C will be his last fight in his career and he will beat him in his final fight. Hopkins won't retire with a lost in his final fight in his career.

[Keihule]

Bernard is a boring fighter, he is way past his prime. He isnt worth the money he thinks he is because he cant knock anyone out. He needs to fight somebody or retire.

[Boro chris]

Why the fuck would Hopkins back-out against Calzaghe, when he's already beaten fighters far superior?

:smoke

Who?




Oh god your not going to say Trinidad are you?:rofl

To be fair to that little soap dropper I'd pick him prime for prime against Joe. But unless that abysmal effort against Winky was a fluke then he's too old.
Personally I think he's to smart to take this fight.

[Stickandmove]

My guess is that Hopkins will price himself out of a fight with Calzaghe...............again!

Maybe Roy Jones Junior will step up to the plate if he demolishes Trinidad in January?

[Boinko]

I hope to god Calzaghe comes over here and fights him at the Garden. Hopkins will ass rape him in the ring....literally. He's going hold and rough him up.

Great. That should be entertaining.:roll:

[Irländsk]

I wanted to see this fight at first but now I hope it doesn't happen. Calzaghe has only a couple of good fights left and I don't want one of them to be ruined by a fighter that clinches three times as often as he punches. He would hold on to Joe like a crying wife sending her husband off to war.

[Smazz20]

Calzaghe ducked fighters for 10 years fighting in his home town, most of the guys he fought as champ I never even heard of before.


I'm assuming the ones you did here about were all American, no?


Hopkins has beaten p4p'ers yes. But ODLH, Tito are a lot lot smaller than Hopkins. Tarver is way overated because of his wins over a SHOT RJJ. The win by Hopkins was impressive because of the jump in weight and his age, NOT because of the calibre of opposition.

Then he beats Wright, a natural Light Middle and you go crazy for it? Yes, the wins make his resume a lot better than Joe's, but he has never beaten a fighter of the calibre of Calzaghe. When he fights JC, which he will, you'll get to see this:hi:

[ChrisPontius]

Someone needs to be honest to Hopkins and tell him he's not an exciting, crowd pulling fighter. He repeatedly put me to sleep during his fights.

And he's way too old to beat Calzaghe at this point. I'd still like to see the fight because a lot of people here believe Hopkins would win. But it would be wiser for him to price himself out like he did against Jones and feast on welterweights.

[Bodysnatcher]

Didn't the guy who used to run Showtime boxing say that Hopkins accepted a 3 million offer to fight Calzaghe, then backed out and came back demanding 6 million?

Anyone got a link to that quote?

Not saying it happened, but if the guy said it, I'd take it pretty seriously.

[David UK]

Why the fuck would Hopkins back-out against Calzaghe, when he's already beaten fighters far superior?

:smoke

What? like Tarver? And I don't want to hear any DeLaHoya/Trinidad nonsense. They weren't even genuine middleweights, let alone SuperMiddle/Light Heavies.

My hunch is that Bottler Bernard will veto the match up by insisting on not giving Calzaghe pay parity

[Azriel]

I feel there is going to be a lot of arguing on this matchup. Americans vs Europeans.

First, Lacy was going to destroy Calzaghe with one punch, then Kessler was too young and Strong for Calzaghe and would whoop his ass. And now, Popkins is going to ass rape him at 45? (Because it won't be in 2 weeks).

Is it for patriotisism that you guys think Hopkins would win over Calzaghe?

If I could fast forward all this arguing, I can't wait to see the comments on this thread after the fight.

[Bodysnatcher]

I feel there is going to be a lot of arguing on this matchup. Americans vs Europeans.

First, Lacy was going to destroy Calzaghe with one punch, then Kessler was too young and Strong for Calzaghe and would whoop his ass. And now, Popkins is going to ass rape him at 45? (Because it won't be in 2 weeks).

Is it for patriotisism that you guys think Hopkins would win over Calzaghe?

If I could fast forward all this arguing, I can't wait to see the comments on this thread after the fight.

I can already tell you what the comments will be.

They'll go something like:

Hopkins was too old and would have beaten Joe when he was younger.

Did I say `something` like that?

Actually, they'll go exactly like that.

[David UK]

Calzaghe's resume is pretty good but it'd look much better if he'd of had wins against Mayweather,Hatton,Margaritto on his record.

Some people just don't seem to comprehend the concept of WEIGHT DIVISIONS!!!

[Azriel]

I can already tell you what the comments will be.

They'll go something like:

Hopkins was too old and would have beaten Joe when he was younger.

Did I say `something` like that?

Actually, they'll go exactly like that.

Yeah, I know... I was just humoring myself... :) But thanks for the preview ;)

[charlievint]

And agrees to fight Hopkins in the USA, will Borenard bottle it again?

If they can come to terms then the fight will be made! Hopefully Joe will continue to trend this way in terms of FINALLY stepping up in competition instead of ducking any real form of competition. This fight or any other ELITE fighter should have been on Joe's resume a LOOOOOOONG time ago. He's now itching for real respect that has been avoiding him like he's been avoiding real challenges. Not that Joe doesn't have the skills and talent to be competitive or even beat the best of the best...he just hasn't shown the desire to test himself until he reached the at of 35. If this fight is made Joe stands a great chance at beating Hop.

[mattress]

Why the fuck would Hopkins back-out against Calzaghe, when he's already beaten fighters far superior?

:smoke

A) Who has he beaten who's superior?
B) He has backed-out before, or did you forget?
:patsch

[Strike]

Why the fuck would Hopkins back-out against Calzaghe, when he's already beaten fighters far superior?

:smoke

Who?

[cuchulain]

Why the fuck would Hopkins back-out against Calzaghe, when he's already beaten fighters far superior?

:smoke


Bernard has only faced one fighter who was superior to Calzaghe.

And he lost, decisively.


With both men at prime, this would have been interesting , with the edge going to Calzaghe.

At this point in their respective careers, I don't think this wwould even be competitive.

Bernard has never fought at 168.

At 175 he is 1-1-0.

[surreal deal]

Bernard has only faced one fighter who was superior to Calzaghe.

And he lost, decisively.
good argument that.

[Rumsfeld]

Who?

Trinidad, Tarver, Winky

:smoke

[madpup]

As someone living in Britain for a long time I have to step in. Is Hopkins a boring fighter? I'd say so. Is he likely to lose against JC in a fight right now? Most likely.

But fuck me, how can he and his achievements be disrespected by British fans? The guy is 43 years olds and still fights top level opposition. He has fought some exceptional fighters and has never been scared of anyone. In terms of being in with high quality opposition, JC has quite a way to go before he can compare himself to Hopkins. Show some fucking respect to a great champion, still fighting at top level and in great shape at such an advanced age.

I do believe this fight will be made, seems like both guys want it.

[Amsterdam]

Trinidad, Tarver, Winky

:smoke

Trinidad is superior at MW to JC at SMW?

Tarver? Goddamn, how about those two close ones to Glen Johnson?

Winky is superior at SMW as JC is at SMW?

Hmm. Doesn't add up.

[RDJ]

Hopkins wouldn`t last 6 rounds against the great JC.

Calzaghe the knockout slapper :lol:

[Amsterdam]

Calzaghe's resume is pretty good but it'd look much better if he'd of had wins against Mayweather,Hatton,Margaritto on his record.

Some people just don't seem to comprehend the concept of WEIGHT DIVISIONS!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nice one there David!

[welshwonder]

to be completely honest not only do i think that hopkins would lose badly to calzaghe, i also think he would get KOd against kessler who could easily move up, i think that there are better fights out there for joe, this will beef out his resume and it will be interesting to see how many punches hopkins can take, on points 120 - 110 to calzghe, this would b a repeat of the jones jr fight only, hopkins would take much more of a beating because he is not a patch on the fighter who fought back then.

[cuchulain]

Trinidad, Tarver, Winky

:smoke


Defensively, Winky is (was?) very good. But he's a 154 lber who has never won a fight above 160.

Offensively, Trinidad is (was?) very good. But at 147 and 154. He has only two wins at 160, one good win against Joppy and one against welterweight Mayorga.

At 168 or 175, both these guys lose to Calzaghe.

Tarver? Famous in the same way as Buster Douglas or Haseem Rahman.

Not to be mentioned in the same breath as Calzaghe.

[thesandman]

Who?

Don't even fucking bother with Rumsfeld.

He just puts :smoke at the end of everything, and believes that covers up a complete and utter lack of a valid argument.


Trinidad, Tarver, Winky

:smoke

Yeah, Trinidad, a man who wasn't really a middleweight, is better than an undefeated, 10 year super middle champ.

Tarver. Oh yeah, makes his name from an eyes shut punch, and has struggled since. A comparison to Rahman as a HW is more than fair.

Looked like complete and utter shit against Hopkins.


Winky. Fighting at 170. A HIGHER weight class than Calzaghe fights in. Winky, (who couldn't beat a middleweight champ derided as being shit).
Winky, fighting 16 pounds above his best weight.

That's like Calzaghe fighting a welterweight for fucks sake. That's like Calzaghe beating Mosley, and everybody proclaiming it as a fucking great win.


Seriously, I cannot believe how easily people get the wool pulled over their eyes.

Was Hopkins a great fighter. Yes.

Is he now? Don't know. He's fought a weight drained Tarver (come on, you all know he looked like shit that fight, who is almost 40 himself), and fat, sluggish Wright.

Hopkins is in NO hurry to fight any live, light heavy challenges.

Briggs, Adamek, Dawson, hell, any youngish guy that can crack and fight 3 minutes a round for 12 rounds would cause Hopkins trouble PURELY because Hopkins is what, 43 now?

[Imperial1]

CALZAGE VS HOPKINS !!


HOPKINS VS CALZAGHE !!


Both have nice rings to it !!

[David UK]

Why does Hopkins automatically start bitching that 'I WON'T GO OVER THERE......I WON'T GO OVER THERE!!!!!' Hmmmm...so much for the Executioner!!! If JC came out saying 'I won't go to America' he'd get slaughtered for it in these boards.

[cuchulain]

CALZAGE VS HOPKINS !!


HOPKINS VS CALZAGHE !!


Both have nice rings to it !!


At this point, both have mismatch written all over them.