Never underestimate Marco Antonio Barrera.

[Shake]

I've been here for a little while now. I'm usually composed, calm, and evenhanded in my predictions, being careful not to sell anyone short. However, in the possible MAB vs Pac pre-fight conversation I feel Barrera is getting short-changed.

Barrera, like no other, can rise to an occasion. He has asked for this fight, and even threatened his promoter with retirement should he not get it. He wants to pull one last trick, one little dance before hanging up the gloves.

The significance of this should not be underestimated.

Barrera got a crude shock the first time he met Pac in the ring. He didn't expect someone quite that good. Now he knows exactly what he's getting in with, and he wants to be in there again.

MAB is an excellent strategist, and I remember an old quote from Sir Winston Churchill that I think applies.

'However sure you may be of victory, there would not be a war if the other guy did not also think he stood a chance.'

I'm here to predict the upset. MAB by SD.

[acb]

Damm good post.

My heart is with Barrera, he is my favorite active fighter. I dont agree with his taking this fight, but if he is going to take it Im with him all the way.

Barrera SD.

[Rumsfeld]

I've been here for a little while now. I'm usually composed, calm, and evenhanded in my predictions, being careful not to sell anyone short. However, in the possible MAB vs Pac pre-fight conversation I feel Barrera is getting short-changed.

Barrera, like no other, can rise to an occasion. He has asked for this fight, and even threatened his promoter with retirement should he not get it. He wants to pull one last trick, one little dance before hanging up the gloves.

The significance of this should not be underestimated.

Barrera got a crude shock the first time he met Pac in the ring. He didn't expect someone quite that good. Now he knows exactly what he's getting in with, and he wants to be in there again.

MAB is an excellent strategist, and I remember an old quote from Sir Winston Churchill that I think applies.

'However sure you may be of victory, there would not be a war if the other guy did not also think he stood a chance.'

I'm here to predict the upset. MAB by SD.

As a long-time MAB fan, I'd love nothing more than to see MAB have one more magical performance....but I'm honestly not seeing it.

He simply doesn't like getting hit anymore and that doesn't bode well against Pac Man.

The Marquez bout seemed to suggest he should retire.

Believe me....I'd love to see MAB win, and I'll be rooting for him, but this seems almost suicidal.

[achillesthegreat]

MAB is not dumb.

PAC is a better fighter. More dynamic and more educated in his pressure.

MAB will blatently play the boxer puncher. Boxing to score and win but punching to keep him honest in spurts.

Can he do it? MAB is older, PAC possibly hitting his prime in terms of talent and tools.

[jimmie]

MAB is not dumb.

PAC is a better fighter. More dynamic and more educated in his pressure.

MAB will blatently play the boxer puncher. Boxing to score and win but punching to keep him honest in spurts.

Can he do it? MAB is older, PAC possibly hitting his prime in terms of talent and tools.

Pacquiao looked like he took his last opponet alittle lightly. Hes probablly thinking Barrera pfftt ill kick the old mans ass agian. He does that and Barrera will smoke that skinny fuck.

[achillesthegreat]

Pacquiao looked like he took his last opponet alittle lightly. Hes probablly thinking Barrera pfftt ill kick the old mans ass agian. He does that and Barrera will smoke that skinny fuck.
You know that ain't happening. Even if MAB turns up shit he can take licks and is good enough shape to stay in there for the long haul.

PLUS power is always a neutraliser.

MAB is facing a HUGE MOUNTAIN to climb. Period.

[Decebal]

I am a big fan of MAB. I admire him greatly for fighting the best out there in the twilight years of his career. He has dared to be great and continues to dare. What a great man! What an inspiration! There's only a handful of fighters like him.

I don't think he will beat Pacman, but he will do his very best. He will make his fans proud as usual. I will be more than satisfied with that! Go MAB!:happy

[Imperial1]

Anyone who sleeps on Marco is a fool ..And by the way he beat JMM ..I can't wait for this fight ,unless he grows old like Morales did I expect a huge upset ..Only thing is if he does win do we get a rubber match ?

[Rumsfeld]

I am a big fan of MAB. I admire him greatly for fighting the best out there in the twilight years of his career. He has dared to be great and continues to dare. What a great man! What an inspiration! There's only a handful of fighters like him.

I don't think he will beat Pacman, but he will do his very best. He will make his fans proud as usual. I will be more than satisfied with that! Go MAB!:happy

Inspiring post! You're right--even if he loses, MAB will give it his best and make us proud!

:hh

[Decebal]

Anyone who sleeps on Marco is a fool ..And by the way he beat JMM ..I can't wait for this fight ,unless he grows old like Morales did I expect a huge upset ..Only thing is if he does win do we get a rubber match ?

And by the way...NO, he did not beat JMM!:nono

[Imperial1]

Inspiring post! You're right--even if he loses, MAB will give it his best and make us proud!

:hh

Co-sign fighters like him are cut from diffrent cloths ,cloths of steel !

[puga_ni_nana]

i never underestimated MAB. even now, i think this is the seoncd best fight for pac next to JMM. imo, MAB has a chance to beat pac and pac should not take this fight lightly. :bbb

[Imperial1]

i never underestimated MAB. even now, i think this is the seoncd best fight for pac next to JMM. imo, MAB has a chance to beat pac and pac should not take this fight lightly. :bbb

Funny but an interview I read after the 2nd Morales fight with Manny the question was asked who was the hardest puncher he ever faced and he immediatly said Barrera ..

[sandwichsurgeon]

How would MAB beating Pac now compare to "Big" George regaining the HW crown in terms of ATG boxing achievments?

[Guru_Too_You]

How would MAB beating Pac now compare to "Big" George regaining the HW crown in terms of ATG boxing achievments?

MAB beating Pacquiao at this point might make him one of the three most revered fighters in Mexican history.

[Imperial1]

How would MAB beating Pac now compare to "Big" George regaining the HW crown in terms of ATG boxing achievments?

They don't compare ..Foreman was what 50 when he did it ..Marco was just the man at 130 before he was robbed against JMM ..

[Mohak]

As a long-time MAB fan, I'd love nothing more than to see MAB have one more magical performance....but I'm honestly not seeing it.

He simply doesn't like getting hit anymore and that doesn't bode well against Pac Man.

The Marquez bout seemed to suggest he should retire.

Believe me....I'd love to see MAB win, and I'll be rooting for him, but this seems almost suicidal.

I agree with the Giuliani fanboy.

[puga_ni_nana]

Funny but an interview I read after the 2nd Morales fight with Manny the question was asked who was the hardest puncher he ever faced and he immediatly said Barrera ..

yeah, it was quite unexpected but come to think of it barrera and morales were among the two biggest (size and also status) fighters he have fought so it would be natural that they are relatively harder puncher compared to manny's opponents at lower weights. also barrera have good KO ratio.

[Imperial1]

yeah, it was quite unexpected but come to think of it barrera and morales were among the two biggest (size and also status) fighters he have fought so it would be natural that they are relatively harder puncher compared to manny's opponents at lower weights. also barrera have good KO ratio.

I just hope in a rematch he can put his punches together to stop Manny in his tracks ..He's twice the fighter he was when they first met ..

[boxbox]

I just hope in a rematch he can put his punches together to stop Manny in his tracks ..He's twice the fighter he was when they first met ..


true.. i think manny is in his natural weight right now

[4Rounder]

They don't compare ..Foreman was what 50 when he did it ..Marco was just the man at 130 before he was robbed against JMM ..
Thats gotta be a fucking joke right. :patsch
JMM beat Barrera, must be hard to swallow.

[coqui13one]

:good :good :good I am a big fan of MAB. I admire him greatly for fighting the best out there in the twilight years of his career. He has dared to be great and continues to dare. What a great man! What an inspiration! There's only a handful of fighters like him.

I don't think he will beat Pacman, but he will do his very best. He will make his fans proud as usual. I will be more than satisfied with that! Go MAB!:happy

his a big plus for this sport!big cojones mang?hope he can pull it off? if not ill still have much respect for mab.he's a classy fighter all the way around.

[brooklyn1550]

Can he beat Pacquiao? Maybe, but probably not at this stage in his career. Pacquiao, like Junior Jones, will hold 2 wins over MAB.

[coqui13one]

never estimate a heart of a warrior!

[TroubleLurks]

never estimate a heart of a warrior!True, but never turn your back on rational thinking either. The type of performance he would have to put forth to beat Pac...does he still have it in him? I can't see it happening.

[pejevan]

never estimate a heart of a warrior!

Should have been "underestimate". Sorry, just trying to add numbers to my post. I do not want to just put emoticons. But well said. In boxing, anything can happen.

[psychopath]

Never underestimate Marco Antonio Barrera.

I for one is not underestimating MAB. He's one of my alltime favorite fighters.

Knowing that this might be his last hurah . . . this guy will come in there fully ready and prepared for battle. The only questionable point in him now is the ability to withstand and recover from the punishments.

A 50/50 fight for both. And I won't be suprised if he can sneak in a decission win.

[psychopath]

True, but never turn your back on rational thinking either. The type of performance he would have to put forth to beat Pac...does he still have it in him? I can't see it happening.

Well suprises comes when you're not expecting it Pal.

There are a lot of unseen factors. Mental, psychological and physical preparedness is a broad broad thing my friend. :yep

[jopez707]

I will go on record as saying this, that if Barrera beats Pacquiao he should be considered the greatest Mexican fighter...ever...even better than JCC or Finito Lopez. I think he has a great chance, hopefully Pac comes out slow like he did in his last fight. Thus alowing Mab to build an early lead, of course Pac will come on in the late rounds but he will also open himself up to the sharp counterpunching of Barrera.

[Imperial1]

Would a Barrera victory also add fuel to the argument that the first Pac victory was a fluke:huh


Of course it would ..

[BoxingGuru]

Barerra sucks ever since he started boxing like a fucking pussy. He was scared to death of Juarez knocking him out so he just adopted the floyd gayrunner technique.

Manny TKO 8 this time. No question about it.

[Imperial1]

Barerra sucks ever since he started boxing like a fucking pussy. He was scared to death of Juarez knocking him out so he just adopted the floyd gayrunner technique.

Manny TKO 8 this time. No question about it.


Huh :huh

[1punch1nder]

rocky balboa anyone?

[dangerousity]

MAB got annihilated when he was closer to his prime and Pac was further to his, now its the opposite for both MAB doesnt stand a chance. I love MAB but stylistically and how much energy MAB has lost, I cant see him winning.

[Imperial1]

MAB got annihilated when he was closer to his prime and Pac was further to his, now its the opposite for both MAB doesnt stand a chance. I love MAB but stylistically and how much energy MAB has lost, I cant see him winning.


Considering how he did against JMM I think he stands a very good chance ..

[doknochrisan]

been here for a while but i've never really posted anything yet, but for this one, mab vs mp would be a sluggin' thing if mab would want to come out with respect win or lose.

[knockout]

Nah im not counting Marco out but i dont see him winning this thing but i think hes only gonna have a couple rounds and thats about it then he will get tko like last time.

[acb]

Barerra sucks ever since he started boxing like a fucking pussy. He was scared to death of Juarez knocking him out so he just adopted the floyd gayrunner technique.

Manny TKO 8 this time. No question about it.

STFU.

[TroubleLurks]

There are a lot of unseen factors. Mental, psychological and physical preparedness is a broad broad thing my friend. :yep

All of which Pac has the overwhelming edge in.

[dodong]

I agree MAB will put up a fight, but if the Pacquiao that shows up is focused, it will end the same as the first.

[brooklyn1550]

I don't know if MAB can fight at a pace that Manny will make him fight at. He isn't the fighter he once was and he is slowing down, but make no mistake, he is still an elite fighter.

[Morrissey]

I've been here for a little while now. I'm usually composed, calm, and evenhanded in my predictions, being careful not to sell anyone short. However, in the possible MAB vs Pac pre-fight conversation I feel Barrera is getting short-changed.

Barrera, like no other, can rise to an occasion. He has asked for this fight, and even threatened his promoter with retirement should he not get it. He wants to pull one last trick, one little dance before hanging up the gloves.

The significance of this should not be underestimated.

Barrera got a crude shock the first time he met Pac in the ring. He didn't expect someone quite that good. Now he knows exactly what he's getting in with, and he wants to be in there again.

MAB is an excellent strategist, and I remember an old quote from Sir Winston Churchill that I think applies.

'However sure you may be of victory, there would not be a war if the other guy did not also think he stood a chance.'

I'm here to predict the upset. MAB by SD.

I never imagined that MAB will be such a heavy underdog..

[Shake]

*waves a tiny MAB flag*

[ericfabre]

If MAB remain standing after the 12th round it will already be an accomplishment for him.

[loui_ludwig]

Would a Barrera victory also add fuel to the argument that the first Pac victory was a fluke:huh

If he fought like how he did against JMM, yes.

If he run away like how he did against Juares n the rematch, no.

[loui_ludwig]

In the MAB vs Juarez rematch, even though MAB was considered running away, boxing reporters/experts(no, not us keyboard warriors) said that it was Juarez fault also because Rocky let MAB go backwards. They said that Rocky could have press more instead of hesitating(or lack of aggresiveness). This is true. Remember the first fight, Rocky could have won it but always backs off when he hurt MAB. Even his recent fight with Hernadez, he lack the aggresiveness in the first half of the fight. Only in the last 3-4 rounds that he went forward. Even the commenators were criticizing Juarez for this.

Besides the speed, stamina, and power of Pac, the key to winning for Pac is his trainer, Freddie Roach. Roach knows how Pac fights and knows also that there is a chance MAB might fight running away in his rematch with Pac. Roach will have a plan to train Pac in case it happen on their rematch. And you have to remember also, Pac goes forward, unlike Juarez.

After their first fight, MAB foought EM in their trilogy, beating Juarez in a close win in their first fight, and recently, his battle with JMM. That is 3 more wars that has taken a toll on his body.

I am not counting MAB out, he can win to a decision by boxing technically. But just like his fights with EM and JMM, MAB will go forward. Pac by middle to late rounds TKO or a wide margin UD.

[KobeIsGod]

Barrera is looking for a payday like EM. Barrera was a great fighter and is still a damn good one, but he doesn't have anything to keep Pac off of him. Considering the fact that Manny has added a right hand to his arsenal and will be four years smarter and Marco will be four years older, Pac should stop Barrera in the middle to late rounds.

It won't look as bad as EM-Pac III but it won't be as competitive as EM-Pac II probably something in between. Pac is just too determined to be beat right now at 130.

[Unchained]

I've been here for a little while now. I'm usually composed, calm, and evenhanded in my predictions, being careful not to sell anyone short. However, in the possible MAB vs Pac pre-fight conversation I feel Barrera is getting short-changed.

Barrera, like no other, can rise to an occasion. He has asked for this fight, and even threatened his promoter with retirement should he not get it. He wants to pull one last trick, one little dance before hanging up the gloves.

The significance of this should not be underestimated.

Barrera got a crude shock the first time he met Pac in the ring. He didn't expect someone quite that good. Now he knows exactly what he's getting in with, and he wants to be in there again.

MAB is an excellent strategist, and I remember an old quote from Sir Winston Churchill that I think applies.

'However sure you may be of victory, there would not be a war if the other guy did not also think he stood a chance.'

I'm here to predict the upset. MAB by SD.

MAB is a warrior, but Pacquio is too strong now.