Donald Curry Vs Oscar De La Hoya @ 147

[Sonny Carson]

I say Curry either UDs Oscar or hurts him bad with a left hook and knocks him out late.

[errsta]

Nobody beats the Curry that fought McCrory. On that night, I would pick Curry over anyone.

Unfortunately, the honeyghan fight showed he was a hot/cold fighter. Curry should win this matchup.

[unitas]

Nobody beats the Curry that fought McCrory. On that night, I would pick Curry over anyone.

Unfortunately, the honeyghan fight showed he was a hot/cold fighter. Curry should win this matchup.

i think that curry was not himself in the honeyghan fight. he was totally weightdrained........and it showed on his body. he looked sick........and fough accordingly. curry at his best was far better than honeyghan.

anyway, curry wins i think, but oscar was a very talented welter. his jab and solid chin alone make this a competative fight.

but once currys power gets to him, i think he goes into a shell and loses a ud.

curry UD oscar.

[heerko koois]

:thumbsup Nobody beats the Curry that fought McCrory. On that night, I would pick Curry over anyone.

Unfortunately, the honeyghan fight showed he was a hot/cold fighter. Curry should win this matchup.

[heerko koois]

:patsch Oscar by asswhooping.

[TBooze]

de la Hoya (was/is) class, Curry was flavour of the year in 85, de la Hoya would be far too much for the Cobra IMO.

de la Hoya TKO8

[heerko koois]

I agree.

:lol:

[coqui13one]

are u serious?well every body has a favorite or thier own opinion,but i say de la hoya by a knock out because of thier styls.donald curry was an "a"fighter but de la hoya "was"an a+ fighter.wow

[coqui13one]

:good :good :good
Oscar by asswhooping.

tell them sweet pea:bbb

[coqui13one]

:rasta :patsch Nobody beats the Curry that fought McCrory. On that night, I would pick Curry over anyone.

Unfortunately, the honeyghan fight showed he was a hot/cold fighter. Curry should win this matchup.

[Mantequilla]

Oscar was never impressive in any fight i ever saw him in against a real A class opponent(cue the nuthuggers dredging up the likes of Ruelas and Gonzalez).

IF he did somehow manage to beat Curry it would be after a monumental struggle.

[unitas]

Oscar would dominate that fraud poor man's Julian Jackson.

go suck a sweet pea:good

[unitas]

What was so great about Donald Duck?

Power, precision punching, economical style..........enough???

[brownpimp88]

What was so great about Donald Duck?
Dude he's better than almost everybody that whitaker has beat. I hate to say this but its the truth. Curry would have beat chavez at 147, he would have beat vasquez at 154, and he has a better overall resume than buddy mcgirt.

[unitas]

It seemed to me he was a puncher..........that's it.

then you havent seen much of him.

[Mantequilla]

It seemed to me he was a puncher..........that's it.


No, not at all.

He was a very technical boxer-puncher.Still the best since Leonard and Hearns at Welter.

He wasn't durable and couldn't cope with awkward aggressive fighters, but DLH is not that kind of boxer.

[Sonny Carson]

The people who think Oscar would win don't know shit. Curry's got too good of a jab, too good of a left hook, too slick for Oscar. This would be like the Quartey fight only Oscar wouldn't squeeze it out in the 12th with Currry. And the person who said Curry looked like Julian Jackson must be on drug's. Jackson was slow and had power Curry had speed and power.

[JohnThomas1]

Oscar would dominate that fraud poor man's Julian Jackson.

Have you even seen Curry fight? Obviously not if comparing he and Jackson.

[JohnThomas1]

It seemed to me he was a puncher..........that's it.

:huh

He was anything but.

[heerko koois]

I've seen him fight, and I really don't get what the fuss is about at all. He seemed to have good power, and was a pretty normal boxer. He was good, nothing really special from what I've seen. Seriously, what the hell is you guys obsession with him?

He was special for a short period .....Curry in 1983- 1985 was close to perfection in boxing skills .....

[unitas]

He was special for a short period .....Curry in 1983- 1985 was close to perfection in boxing skills .....

:good

[JohnThomas1]

He had a completely conventional style, he would throw a jab, he would come in, throw a body shot or two, and looked to KO you with a big shot. He reminded me somewhat of Julian Jackson. Nothing about his boxing skills impressed me. He had good power from what I've seen, otherwise I don't get the big deal.

Be honest, exactly what fights have you seen and how much of them?

[robert ungurean]

A prime Curry gives Oscar a boxing lesson.
Curry UD.

[JohnThomas1]

Milton McRory, Colin Jones, Honeghan.

Ah, just a short few including a hammering. Even the McCallum loss showed us what a talented boxer Curry had been just a short time before. Starling and LaRocca are good tussles too.

[la-califa]

It would be a good struggle for a while. Curry couldn't take the pounding for long. & he didn't have the power to due serious damage to De La Hoya. A couple of hard shots & Curry would be down & out about the eighth.

[GazOC]

IMHO its easy to forget just how good Curry was at 147 in those years before making the weight told. It maybe doesn't look as impressive looking back on paper as it was at the time. I'd take a prime Curry over a prime 147 Oscar any day of the week.

[brownpimp88]

At 147 he beat: Mcrory, Starling twice and Nino Larocca, along with 6-7 contenders. He is easily a top 10-15 welterweight of all times.

[buzzsaw]

A peak Donald Curry had a very tight defense and was a very patient boxer. And when the opening presented itself he would strike. Oscar is a better all around boxer then most of the fighters Curry beat with the exception of Marlon Starling, a fighter who lost to Curry twice.

[la-califa]

Starling, McCrory, LaRocca Hardly big bangers. Against a power puncher like De La Hoya. Curry's main weakness would be exposed. ability to take a big punch. Once he gets staggered, there would be no place to hide.

[Bummy Davis]

Both men were erratic and Sporatic and inconsistant, it depends on who was on that night

[Cobra33]

How about Colin Jones?He was a huge puncher.

How about Terry Norris?A shot Curry went 8 rounds with Norris.

Most of these people posting didn't see a prime Curry in action.They saw Curry vs Santos,Mccallum etc.

[Titan1]

I say Curry either UDs Oscar or hurts him bad with a left hook and knocks him out late.

Concur.:good

[Titan1]

Nobody beats the Curry that fought McCrory. On that night, I would pick Curry over anyone.

Unfortunately, the honeyghan fight showed he was a hot/cold fighter. Curry should win this matchup.

Even Ray Leonard?

[JohnThomas1]

Both men were erratic and Sporatic and inconsistant, it depends on who was on that night

From 81 - 86 Curry was anything but erratic. His peak run from Stafford up until Honeyghan beat him was a model of consistency at the absolute top rung. Erratic after the Honey fight for sure, but before beaten he was awesome and that's the Curry we see here pitted against Oscar.

[Longhhorn71]

Curry begin to go downhill after a group of outsiders swooped in and convinced him to dump his long-time manager and trainer Dave Gorman from over in Ft. Worth. I spoked with Gorman about it and Gorman was obviously bitter because he lost his prize world-class fighter.

Curry at the time was one of the best in the world.

Curry was quiet spoken and well regarded in DFW.

Then he was dried out (or overconfident), lost the Honeyghan fight and
was never the same.

[Holmes' Jab]

On their respective "very best nights" I think DLH takes a very tight decision, though this one could go either way (mark my words a peak '81-85 Curry gives Oscar absolute hell)

Any version of Curry post-86 and it's De La Hoya's fight- without question. Best versions, though makes for a great matchup.

[Holmes' Jab]

It seemed to me he was a puncher..........that's it.

Very harsh. He was a very good technical boxer.

Unfortunately the Honeyghan defeat ruined him ...:-(

[Raggamuffin]

At one time they mentioned a possible fight with the Marvellous one.
It made me cry with laughter. Curry was good for a short period but never that great to begin with

[Olu G. Rotimi]

This topic is right up my street. The Lone Star Cobra was my favourite fighter. I have seen a lot of ODLH especially the expert manner in which he was guided through most of his career. Essentially bwhat you have in Don Curry was a true thoroughbread, a great Welterweight champion who was dominant and in pursuit of all time greatness until he ran into Lloyd Honeyghan and Marlon Starling. At his brillant best he was probably unbeatable.

ODLH was a very very good fighter who was put into a lot of matches against names when they were on the way down or past their best. However that is not to deny his good talent.

I think at their best by that I mean a pre Honeyghan Curry then the Cobra knocks out ODLH. After this Curry yes he would win another world title but was never quite the same so after 1986 you might have to favour ODLH.

[Sonny Carson]

It would be a good struggle for a while. Curry couldn't take the pounding for long. & he didn't have the power to due serious damage to De La Hoya. A couple of hard shots & Curry would be down & out about the eighth.
Curry didn't have the power to hurt Oscar? Did you see the left hook in the second round against McCroy. No one got McCroy out of there early as Curry did.

[anarci]

THis would be a tough fight and i think Curry would put a scare into ODLH early putting him down, however Oscar would adjust and fight his way back in with ODLH slightly behind on the card he explodes in the 8th. Curry comes out for the 9th but he never showed great recuperative powers,maybe against HWang but ODLH isnt no Jun Sok Hwang.

Oscar ko 9

[natonic]

I think a prime Curry could more than hold his own against Hoya and would try to work inside, where he would dominate. Oscar's guts carries him to the end, but Curry gets the decision.

[Xplosive]

Theres only a handful of Welters in history who could beat the 84-85 Curry.... Oscar aint one of them.

[red cobra]

Peak Donald Curry would have been too much for Oscar and would have hurt and decked him to win a decision over 15, a distance which Curry was accomplished in, more so than Oscar.

[ThinBlack]

Prime Curry would win by unanimous decision over 15, there's no way he kayoes De La Hoya.However, if this is the late '82/early '83 Curry, then De La Hoya has a chance to beat Curry , possibly stop him.

[El Bujia]

Damn, this Sweet Pea was an embarassingly bad poster from what I can tell in this thread. How the hell people compare us is beyond me.

[IntentionalButt]

I like Curry here, and likewise at 154.

Oscar was at his absolute best below welterweight (where you could argue that four men beat him).

A true "peak version" h2h match-up isn't possible here, as there's no such thing as a lightweight Cobra.

[Danny]

Nobody beats the Curry that fought McCrory. On that night, I would pick Curry over anyone.

Unfortunately, the honeyghan fight showed he was a hot/cold fighter. Curry should win this matchup.

Would you pick Curry who beat McCrory to beat prime Robsinson at Welter?

[red cobra]

Damn, this Sweet Pea was an embarassingly bad poster from what I can tell in this thread. How the hell people compare us is beyond me.
I don't think that's an accurate assessment of Sweet Pea at all.

[red cobra]

Curry begin to go downhill after a group of outsiders swooped in and convinced him to dump his long-time manager and trainer Dave Gorman from over in Ft. Worth. I spoked with Gorman about it and Gorman was obviously bitter because he lost his prize world-class fighter.

Curry at the time was one of the best in the world.

Curry was quiet spoken and well regarded in DFW.

Then he was dried out (or overconfident), lost the Honeyghan fight and
was never the same.
He sure wasn't the same guy that starched McCrory, that's for sure...I've never seen a fighter go downhill so fast..he was once magnificent, I know that.

[El Puma]

Damn, this Sweet Pea was an embarassingly bad poster from what I can tell in this thread. How the hell people compare us is beyond me.
I don't know you but based on your post, I REALLY don't like you.



SweatPea is a VERY knowledgeable poster who could hold his own with any and all.

[El Bujia]

Check out his posts in this thread. Curry a poor man's Julian Jackson? Naught but a puncher? It sounds like he'd watched a few minutes of Curry KO highlights and came to that conclusion based purely on his animosity towards other posters overrating of him.

[IntentionalButt]

Check out his posts in this thread. Curry a poor man's Julian Jackson? Naught but a puncher? It sounds like he'd watched a few minutes of Curry KO highlights and came to that conclusion based purely on his animosity towards other posters overrating of him.


Everybody has their low points. :conf

[El Puma]

He sure wasn't the same guy that starched McCrory, that's for sure...I've never seen a fighter go downhill so fast..he was once magnificent, I know that.SRL ko3 McCrory.



;)

[IntentionalButt]

SRL ko3 McCrory.



;)


Well, yeah. :lol:

[El Puma]

Well, yeah. :lol:
:lol:Maybe. But it's more of an inside joke I have with La Cobra Roja:thumbsup

[Thread Stealer]

Check out his posts in this thread. Curry a poor man's Julian Jackson? Naught but a puncher? It sounds like he'd watched a few minutes of Curry KO highlights and came to that conclusion based purely on his animosity towards other posters overrating of him.

I think he was just trolling.

I remember him speaking very highly of the Lone Star Cobra.

[IntentionalButt]

:lol:Maybe. But it's more of an inside joke I have with La Cobra Roja:thumbsup

I see. :good

I actually misread it as SRR, also. Leonard might get it done as well, though.

[riggers]

How good was Curry ? Well at his peak people talked about him moving up to middleweight and dethroning Hagler................. and no one laughed. That obviously never came to be. But that does not alter the fact that at his best he could box like a dream and punch like a night mare. He would outbox De La Hoya and hit him so hard, so fast and so often he would be on queer street long enough to pick up a fag.

Poor mans Julian Jackson, unbelievable.

[MAG1965]

Nobody beats the Curry that fought McCrory. On that night, I would pick Curry over anyone.

Unfortunately, the honeyghan fight showed he was a hot/cold fighter. Curry should win this matchup.I don't know. McCrory was not a great fighter. I thought Curry was great that night also, but in retrospect McCrory was overpowered and shocked in the second round and had no answer for Curry and was confused , that is when Curry landed that left. And another thing, McCrory was tall like Hearns, but his reach was 73 inches. Less than Leonards reach, and Hearns had 78. It was not like Curry fighting Hearns. I think Delahoya had a little more heart than Curry and he would have made it a war yet worked behind his jab and cut and swelled up Curry, and Donald did not do well with a weakness like that. He would lose his gameplan-Curry loses a decision.

[duranimal]

I don't know. McCrory was not a great fighter. I thought Curry was great that night also, but in retrospect McCrory was overpowered and shocked in the second round and had no answer for Curry and was confused , that is when Curry landed that left. And another thing, McCrory was tall like Hearns, but his reach was 73 inches. Less than Leonards reach, and Hearns had 78. It was not like Curry fighting Hearns. I think Delahoya had a little more heart than Curry and he would have made it a war yet worked behind his jab and cut and swelled up Curry, and Donald did not do well with a weakness like that. He would lose his gameplan-Curry loses a decision.

I'am not so sure that Curry's heart is in question here, OK after the Honeyghan hammering & the shocking KO by McCallum obviously would have some traumatic effect especially when he was well favored in both fights.

But Curry was a superb boxer with excellent defense & counter punching ability & power, he was the man at 147 & when he fought Honeyghan all i can say is i've never ever seen Honeyghan fight that good before or after the Curry hammering. Lloyd's speed of counter shocked Curry who clearly may have underestimated an opponant who seized his chance for glory. I just don't see DLH ever using the similar stratergy employed by Lloyd & as we are talking about all things being equal here then to me this will be a schooling by Curry as DLH style IMO is tailor made for a smart fast powerfull counter puncher such as Curry. It'll be a tough fight without doubt but for me Curry will always have the last word as DLH's Jab will get him absolutly no where & if anything he'll be picked off repeatedly as he presses the fight.

You've got too have the ability to swarm Curry & get onto his chest without being caught on the way in as Curry also had fabulous balance & footwork & his timing of a punch was sublime much like you see in Mayweather today & the other approuch to Curry is the way Honeyghan did it by using rapier counters then jumping on him & letting 2/3 go then bouncing out & i just don't see DLH ever being able to adopt that statergy or even having the ability to employ it. Curry by UD.

[anarci]

Damn, this Sweet Pea was an embarassingly bad poster from what I can tell in this thread. How the hell people compare us is beyond me.
Yeah i was thinking the same thing Curry and Julian Jackson same type of fighters:patsch WTF:lol:

[anarci]

I like Curry here, and likewise at 154.

Oscar was at his absolute best below welterweight (where you could argue that four men beat him).

A true "peak version" h2h match-up isn't possible here, as there's no such thing as a lightweight Cobra.
I can see a hth matchup at welter going either way but Curry was no longer the same fighter at JM. No way was he a better JM than ODLH. IMO this should not even be up for debate.

Oscar was more devastating in the lighter divisions but i think he became an all around better fighter at Welter. :think Welter might have been his best division, but JW is where he would have probably peaked had he stood there longer, his power fell of a little at Welter but he was still hitting hard,just not the monster puncher he was at lw.

[TBomb 25]

A peak Donald Curry had a very tight defense and was a very patient boxer. And when the opening presented itself he would strike. Oscar is a better all around boxer then most of the fighters Curry beat with the exception of Marlon Starling, a fighter who lost to Curry twice.Oscar was not a better technical boxer than Milton McCroy as good as Oscar's jab was,Miltons was better and he had more power and better handspeed,Skill wise McCroy was better than Starling,he wasnt better defensively nor did he have a better chin.

[MAG1965]

Oscar was not a better technical boxer than Milton McCroy as good as Oscar's jab was,Miltons was better and he had more power and better handspeed,Skill wise McCroy was better than Starling,he wasnt better defensively nor did he have a better chin.I do not see that. Milton was overrated a little. At the time Thomas Hearns was the great Kronk fighter and Tommy's appeal helped Milton by people thinking he was the next great Emanual Steward Kronk fighter. but he did not have the power of Tommy or the jab or the reach. Hearns was 78 and Milton only 73. Tommy would have beaten Curry at welterweight with his jab and stopped him in the mid rounds, and Oscar would have won a decision in my mind.

[TBomb 25]

There is a very very short list that can beat a prime Curry,if your name isnt SRR,SRL,Hearns,maybe,Duran,Forrest,Benitez then its not you,and that includes Mayweather,Pac,Sweet Pea,Mosely,Oscar,Trinidad ect and many others.

[anarci]

Oscar was not a better technical boxer than Milton McCroy as good as Oscar's jab was,Miltons was better and he had more power and better handspeed,Skill wise McCroy was better than Starling,he wasnt better defensively nor did he have a better chin.
:patsch Damn that Crack is a muthafucker! Mccory is not even on the same level as ODLH his jab might have been longer and he had more range but not better, as for power Mccory high ko% dropped off when he stepped up his competition, i dont think he hit as hard as ODLH,and no way in hell did his handspeed compare. Starling was a better fighter than Mccory. Mccory was a pretty good fighter but far from great. I can name a helluva alot of guys that would have beat him. Id bet that Luis Collazo would be real competetive with McCory.


PS are you related to McCory?

[TBomb 25]

I do not see that. Milton was overrated a little. At the time Thomas Hearns was the great Kronk fighter and Tommy's appeal helped Milton by people thinking he was the next great Emanual Steward Kronk fighter. but he did not have the power of Tommy or the jab or the reach. Hearns was 78 and Milton only 73. Tommy would have beaten Curry at welterweight with his jab and stopped him in the mid rounds, and Oscar would have won a decision in my mind.True he wasnt a Hearns a much lesser Hearns,but even that is better than nearly everyone,but he still had a very good jab and good power in both hands and he was a very decent body puncher,no way was Oscar beating a prime Curry,no way!:nono

[TBomb 25]

:patsch Damn that Crack is a muthafucker! Mccory is not even on the same level as ODLH his jab might have been longer and he had more range but not better, as for power Mccory high ko% dropped off when he stepped up his competition, i dont think he hit as hard as ODLH,and no way in hell did his handspeed compare. Starling was a better fighter than Mccory. Mccory was a pretty good fighter but far from great. I can name a helluva alot of guys that would have beat him. Id bet that Luis Collazo would be real competetive with McCory.


PS are you related to McCory?I never said he was better than Starling,nor have i said he was great,his jab was better than ODH,and he did hit harder than ODH,I think a lot of you are in love with Delahoya because he fought everyone,but lets remember he didnt win any of them and i doubt McCroy would have gotten his ears jabed off like ODH did against Sturm,ODH is super overrated at Welter and Jr.Middle.

[anarci]

I never said he was better than Starling,nor have i said he was great,his jab was better than ODH,and he did hit harder than ODH,I think a lot of you are in love with Delahoya because he fought everyone,but lets remember he didnt win any of them and i doubt McCroy would have gotten his ears jabed off like ODH did against Sturm,ODH is super overrated at Welter and Jr.Middle. He didnt win any big fights? How bout Prime Vargas,Whittaker(norobbery),Quartey,Tito,Mosley II. Chavez was past it but still a very good fighter at the time and this was a huge fight. Felix Sturm:think Hey if you wanna pull out bad performances by great fighters i can make a list a mile long of even ring immortals who lost to guys they never should have.

Bottom line for as tough as Colin Jones was ODLH would have never gone life and death with him, ODLH would have taken care of him the first time with no one wanting to see a rematch.

[TBomb 25]

He didnt win any big fights? How bout Prime Vargas,Whittaker(norobbery),Quartey,Tito,Mosley II. Chavez was past it but still a very good fighter at the time and this was a huge fight. Felix Sturm:think Hey if you wanna pull out bad performances by great fighters i can make a list a mile long of even ring immortals who lost to guys they never should have.

Bottom line for as tough as Colin Jones was ODLH would have never gone life and death with him, ODLH would have taken care of him the first time with no one wanting to see a rematch.The Tito fight he ran,he should'nt have won,and he didnt win the Quartey fight that was a gift,so was the Whitaker fight and Sweet Pea was past it,ok so he won the Vargas fight,but your comment is true about immortals losing to guys they shoud'nt have.The Jones fight was around the time when Curry was really struggling to make WW,ODH is a very good fighter no doubt but he lost all of his big fights except the Vargas fight,and he may have got robbed out of the 2nd Mosely fight,but he wasnt in "The Cobras" league.

[anarci]

The Tito fight he ran,he should'nt have won,and he didnt win the Quartey fight that was a gift,so was the Whitaker fight and Sweet Pea was past it,ok so he won the Vargas fight,but your comment is true about immortals losing to guys they shoud'nt have.The Jones fight was around the time when Curry was really struggling to make WW,ODH is a very good fighter no doubt but he lost all of his big fights except the Vargas fight,and he may have got robbed out of the 2nd Mosely fight,but he wasnt in "The Cobras" league.

He still schooled Tito and no way did he deserve to lose the fight 3 bad rounds while winning the rest does not warrant losing a decision. I thought he pulled out the Quartey fight at the end of the 11th had ODLH one point behind. 2 or 3 point round(depending on how you scored the 12th) makes him a close winner. Sweet Pea turned back the clock in that fight but didnt do enough to win it this was also Oscars 1st fight at Welter so this was a big win. Jones-Curry:huh You must mean Mccory-Curry cause Curry stopped Jones early. If Mccory did have trouble making weight the 1st time he had a rematch and the fight still could have gone either way, Jones proved his equal despite being 6inches shorter.

I feel we have gotten of topic though i do agree Curry-Odlh is a pretty even match(although i lean toward ODLH) at JM ODLH handles Curry and stops him.

[Flea Man]

Fuck me, Pea used to have some controversial opinions :lol:

[anarci]

Fuck me, Pea used to have some controversial opinions :lol:
Are you talking about the Jackson,Curry fighting alike comment? THat was crazy, sounds like something Frank and Frank would say

[MAG1965]

True he wasnt a Hearns a much lesser Hearns,but even that is better than nearly everyone,but he still had a very good jab and good power in both hands and he was a very decent body puncher,no way was Oscar beating a prime Curry,no way!:nonoOscar above 140 seemed to struggle more and the power in his left hook left a little, but he had that special quality that Leonard had and all greats have to pour it on when he has to and eek out a win. Curry had the great skills and counterpunching, but his will to win was always questioned when things got tough. I do not think Curry would be able to set up Oscar for the left hook like he did Milt, and Oscar jab would be just as good as Donalds. Oscar would not win the fight like Lloyd did but he would be able to win a decision down the stretch with his heart and jab. Curry's skills were good, but not as great as people think. And the McCallum knockout was a great setup by Mike. Faking the punch to the body and coming upstairs.

[natonic]

Oscar above 140 seemed to struggle more and the power in his left hook left a little, but he had that special quality that Leonard had and all greats have to pour it on when he has to and eek out a win. Curry had the great skills and counterpunching, but his will to win was always questioned when things got tough. I do not think Curry would be able to set up Oscar for the left hook like he did Milt, and Oscar jab would be just as good as Donalds. Oscar would not win the fight like Lloyd did but he would be able to win a decision down the stretch with his heart and jab. Curry's skills were good, but not as great as people think. And the McCallum knockout was a great setup by Mike. Faking the punch to the body and coming upstairs.

Please. Different leagues of fighters.

[MAG1965]

Please. Different leagues of fighters.Ray fought great fighters and beat better fighters and that is true, Oscar did not beat many greats when he had to, but he beat JCC and Whitaker, but Oscar did have that great quality of pouring it on and fighting with determination when things got too close. Something Curry did not seem to have. But I agree, Oscar was not Ray Leonard, I just meant on that one quality.

[anarci]

Please. Different leagues of fighters. Well i would rank Leonard higher than ODLH and hth he wins it, but to say they were in different leagues is a little harsh. A prime ODLH is in anyones league he was an elite fighter and not a gimme for even the greatest of fighters.

[Bollox]

Don Curry was a pretty special fighter for a while there. That version would have beaten DLH comfortably by UD

[natonic]

Well i would rank Leonard higher than ODLH and hth he wins it, but to say they were in different leagues is a little harsh. A prime ODLH is in anyones league he was an elite fighter and not a gimme for even the greatest of fighters.

OK guys, maybe a bit harsh. Let me try to re-state. Leonard had the abillity to get guys out of there when he had to. I think he had more power and more killer instinct than Oscar. Yes, Oscar was very game and very competitive but he lacked the quality of Leonard to take the decision out of the hands of the judges if necessary. I can't think of a modern fighter who had more close decisions than Oscar. That cuts both ways. It's a tribute to his competitive spirit but a knock on his finishing ability.
I was not impressed with Curry after the Honeyghan loss. I think Oscar could take Curry at 154. But prime 147 Curry was a different fighter. I don't think he had many flaws at that stage. I think he's clearly better than guys like Mosely, Quartey and an aging Sweet Pea who went tooth and nail with Oscar.