View Full Version : Clarifying the David Haye v Enzo Mac situation
David UK
11-09-2007, 08:44 AM
Enzo Mac has said in a recent interview he wants to fight the winner of Mormeck v Haye, and hopes it'll be Haye, and that he also hopes Haye doesn't duck him again:huh There are two important points to clarify
1) Some time last year Frank ****** was in Boxing News saying that if Enzo wasn't able to beat David Haye, then he(******) would give up the sport.(a good thing most in Britain would agree, but that's another story!!) Shortly after David Haye put an advert in Boxing News daring Enzo to fight him in a 'winner takes all' contest. Enzo accepted,and an agreement was reached between Haye's manager and ******(I'm not suire whether the 'winner takes all' still stood or whether a more conventional purse spilt was agreed). The fight was ON and all boxing fans in Britain were really looking forward to it. However, when the contracts came to be signed, Haye's manager and promotional outfit, noticed that by signing for the fight they would be effectively signing over control of Haye to ****** should Haye win(****** has learnt plenty from boxings Shyster-in-Chief,Don King). Naturally, Haye's team therefore declined to sign and the fight was off. Remember that ****** has publically stated that if Haye beat Enzo, ****** would pack it all in!! So why, if ****** was so convinced of an Enzo victory, would he insist(but only when it actually came to signing the contracts:hey ) on options on David Haye?
2) Haye has stated many times that the Mormeck fight will be his LAST at Cruiser and that he will campaign at HW thereafter. So unless Enzo agrees to fight him at HW(which I doubt very much) he knows he can call out Haye as much as he likes, because it ain't gonna happen!!
Grant1
11-09-2007, 08:51 AM
Enzo Mac has said in a recent interview he wants to fight the winner of Mormeck v Haye, and hopes it'll be Haye, and that he also hopes Haye doesn't duck him again:huh There are two important points to clarify
1) Some time last year Frank ****** was in Boxing News saying that if Enzo wasn't able to beat David Haye, then he(******) would give up the sport.(a good thing most in Britain would agree, but that's another story!!) Shortly after David Haye put an advert in Boxing News daring Enzo to fight him in a 'winner takes all' contest. Enzo accepted,and an agreement was reached between Haye's manager and ******(I'm not suire whether the 'winner takes all' still stood or whether a more conventional purse spilt was agreed). The fight was ON and all boxing fans in Britain were really looking forward to it. However, when the contracts came to be signed, Haye's manager and promotional outfit, noticed that by signing for the fight they would be effectively signing over control of Haye to ****** should Haye win(****** has learnt plenty from boxings Shyster-in-Chief,Don King). Naturally, Haye's team therefore declined to sign and the fight was off. Remember that ****** has publically stated that if Haye beat Enzo, ****** would pack it all in!! So why, if ****** was so convinced of an Enzo victory, would he insist(but only when it actually came to signing the contracts:hey ) on options on David Haye?
2) Haye has stated many times that the Mormeck fight will be his LAST at Cruiser and that he will campaign at HW thereafter. So unless Enzo agrees to fight him at HW(which I doubt very much) he knows he can call out Haye as much as he likes, because it ain't gonna happen!!
Enzo would smash him into smitharines. That's if Haye fights again after Saturday.
Well I never really got why this fight was ever even talked about tbh. I mean Haye was at the time mandatory challenger to Mormeck, the true champ with the best belts. Why fight Enzo for a shitty WBO trinket and lose your shot at the champ? Plus he has stated he is moving up, If he beats Mormeck he has nothing to prove at Cruiser anyway. Dont know why Enzo cant comprehend this and continues to call him out, when the whole world knows it aint gonna happen.
Enzo would smash him into smitharines. That's if Haye fights again after Saturday.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You know nothing
ThePlugInBabies
11-09-2007, 08:57 AM
Enzo would smash him into smitharines. That's if Haye fights again after Saturday.
:rofl :rofl
haye would smash the bitch titted ducker, this wouldn't even be close.
Lacyace
11-09-2007, 08:59 AM
Interesting. That contract thing was slimy on ******'s part.
196osh
11-09-2007, 09:03 AM
Haye would destroy Enzo. As Enzo has 0 advantages. Not power, not speed, not footwork, not ring smarts NOTHING! Enzo despite some talent is thee most protected "World Champion" in the world.
Steve Fox
11-09-2007, 09:15 AM
Enzo would smash him into smitharines. That's if Haye fights again after Saturday.Ain't you got a fight to promote Frank?
robpalmer135
11-09-2007, 09:50 AM
This is what he has said about a Haye fight today.
"He's already pulled out of a fight against me earlier this year, but if he wins and has a title, then the public will want to see us get it on.
There is no reason for it not to happen - only if Haye gets the jitters again.
But if Mormeck wins, then I would be just as happy taking him on. Like Joe Calzaghe, I want to fight the best out there and unify titles."
Reasons why it wont happen???
1) Haye is moving up
2) WBO is not a real belt
3) ****** wants options
4) ****** will offer Haye no money
5) If Haye does make a defense it has to be a mandatory against O'Niel Bell
anymore?
Seriously i used to like Enzo but latley he has come out with some shit about Haye not wanting to face him, Wayne Braithwaite being world class, Sellers being dangerous, Azzouli being dangerous.
I really wish Haye would Knock him out!
yesihavearm
11-09-2007, 10:24 AM
This is what he has said about a Haye fight today.
"He's already pulled out of a fight against me earlier this year, but if he wins and has a title, then the public will want to see us get it on.
There is no reason for it not to happen - only if Haye gets the jitters again.
But if Mormeck wins, then I would be just as happy taking him on. Like Joe Calzaghe, I want to fight the best out there and unify titles."
Reasons why it wont happen???
1) Haye is moving up
2) WBO is not a real belt
3) ****** wants options
4) ****** will offer Haye no money
5) If Haye does make a defense it has to be a mandatory against O'Niel Bell
anymore?
Seriously i used to like Enzo but latley he has come out with some shit about Haye not wanting to face him, Wayne Braithwaite being world class, Sellers being dangerous, Azzouli being dangerous.
I really wish Haye would Knock him out!
I stopped reading as soon as you said "WBO is not a real belt"
joeboxer
11-09-2007, 10:24 AM
I think Mac vs. Haye would be an interesting fight. I think Mac is more skilled but Haye would be able to land the big one. I predict that Haye would ko Mac while behind on the score cards in the later rounds, but if Mac can avoid that big punch he'd win a decision. Haye's own chin and boxing skills I still question. I didn't think he looked that great against Johanssen where he sufferred a huge cut.
robpalmer135
11-09-2007, 10:26 AM
I stopped reading as soon as you said "WBO is not a real belt"
They don't make you fight Mandatorys, you just have to fight someone in the top 15, thats why its not a real belt!
robpalmer135
11-09-2007, 10:27 AM
I think Mac vs. Haye would be an interesting fight. I think Mac is more skilled but Haye would be able to land the big one. I predict that Haye would ko Mac while behind on the score cards in the later rounds, but if Mac can avoid that big punch he'd win a decision. Haye's own chin and boxing skills I still question. I didn't think he looked that great against Johanssen where he sufferred a huge cut.
Haye sufferd the only cut of his career agaisnt Fragomeni. Mac is no way more skilled that Haye!
FlatNose
11-09-2007, 10:33 AM
Frank ****** demanding options on Hayes fights for signing to fight Enzo is a trick he learned in promoters school from Proffesers King and Arum.Fortunatly, Haye has other options.Unfortunatly, some fighter don't, and fall prey to the unscroupulous sharks in promoters suits.
robpalmer135
11-09-2007, 10:35 AM
The fact that ****** has never denied this, but still claims Haye ducks Macceranelli is Hilarious!
Decebal
11-09-2007, 10:38 AM
I'm surprised Froch didn't go with ******...together with Enzo and Khan, he would have made a nice trio...:-(
Darien
11-09-2007, 10:39 AM
They don't make you fight Mandatorys, you just have to fight someone in the top 15, thats why its not a real belt!
That's not entirely true. You have to choose from their top 15 if you make a VOLUNTARY defence. They do force mandatories just not as often as the IBF for example.
Grant1
11-09-2007, 11:13 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You know nothing
I suppose your totally impartial given your username ???
Haye is overrated massively.
robpalmer135
11-09-2007, 11:56 AM
I suppose your totally impartial given your username ???
Haye is overrated massively.
Would he still be if he K.Os Mormeck?
HIS amateur record was fantatic, and his current record is to, so how can be he overrated massivley.
if i was david haye and won on saturday i would say publicy to ****** letting all the media know that i will offer you the same as you offered me.
namely £250 k and options on me promoting enzo`s next 4 fights with the stipulation they be against matt skelton/danny willams and michael sprott if enzo steps up to heavy.
whats the likleyhood of ****** accepting these terms?
Decebal
11-09-2007, 12:02 PM
if i was david haye and won on saturday i would say publicy to ****** letting all the media know that i will offer you the same as you offered me.
namely £250 k and options on me promoting enzo`s next 4 fights with the stipulation they be against matt skelton/danny willams and michael sprott if enzo steps up to heavy.
whats the likleyhood of ****** accepting these terms?
:lol:
janpot
11-09-2007, 12:32 PM
It makes you think just think if it was Calzaghe and not Hatton (no offence) that split from ******?. He would of been a major superstar.
David UK
11-09-2007, 06:24 PM
The fact that ****** has never denied this, but still claims Haye ducks Macceranelli is Hilarious!
****** is a clown anyway
Zakman
11-09-2007, 07:05 PM
Whoever lands the first big punch wins. Neither of these guys takes a great shot. :nod
blueballs1978
11-09-2007, 07:15 PM
Enzo would smash him into smitharines. That's if Haye fights again after Saturday.
EH??????????????????????????????????? :huh
Enzo would smash him into smitharines. That's if Haye fights again after Saturday.
Hi Enzo
I would like to see Dings opinion on Haye v Mac myself i think it is an easy win for Haye.
Carlos Primera
11-09-2007, 08:38 PM
enzo has a glass jaw
Haye would destroy Enzo. As Enzo has 0 advantages. Not power, not speed, not footwork, not ring smarts NOTHING! Enzo despite some talent is thee most protected "World Champion" in the world.
What about stamina? What about the jab?
Matthew W
11-10-2007, 03:52 PM
enzo has a glass jaw
Not really, Braithwaite proved otherwise. What he is is annoyingly protected. Whether that is all ******'s doing or is partly Enzo's fault I don't know.
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