View Full Version : Who do you believe Fighter of the year should be
MJRJJ23
11-12-2007, 06:22 PM
If Mayweather beats Hatton, regardless of how he beats him who do you believe should receive fighter of the year. Or vica Versa if Hatton beats Mayweather.
Cotto- TKO Judah, UD Mosley
Mayweather- SD Hoya, ??? Hatton
Hatton-- KO Castillo, ?? Mayweather
Pacman-- KO Solis, UD Barrera
Joe C-- TKO Manfredo, UD Kessler
Pavlik-- TKO Miranda, TKO Taylor
Thread Stealer
11-12-2007, 06:23 PM
Unless Ricky Hatton pulls off the upset, then Kelly Pavlik should be Fighter of the Year IMO.
mattress
11-12-2007, 06:24 PM
Looking at calibre of opposition i'd have to lean towards Cotto. JC, because of age, doubters, etc. must be very close behind after his win over MK.
MJRJJ23
11-12-2007, 06:25 PM
Unless Ricky Hatton pulls off the upset, then Kelly Pavlik should be Fighter of the Year IMO.
its gonna be a tough call thats for sure. I think if Mayweather wins then it should be Mayweather just because I think a W over Hoya is bigger than Miranda and a W over Hatton is bigger than a W over Taylor, definitly make a case either way though. Cotto definitly has an argument also
Boro chris
11-12-2007, 06:26 PM
The winner of Hatton-Mayweather. If not then Cotto.
MJRJJ23
11-12-2007, 06:28 PM
Calzaghe or Pavlik
I woudlnt' say Joe C just because I think the Manfredo fight will hurt him and you can argue that a Floyd win over Hatton is just if not bigger than the Kessler win also i think Cotto and Pavlik's wins over Mosley and Taylor are a little more significant.
hellblazer
11-12-2007, 06:29 PM
Hatton if he upsets PBF
If Hatton looses...it's either Cotto or Pavlik.
Bodysnatcher
11-12-2007, 06:29 PM
Pavlik, definitely.
Unless Hatton wins.
Amsterdam
11-12-2007, 06:30 PM
Cotto. Hatton will not win a round against Mayweather and Mayweather hand picked Hatton as an easy win over a name opponent, along with Mayweather's win over a past it DLH, it's not enough.
Cotto did -
TKO Urkal, TKO Judah, UD a better Mosely than the version of Hoya that Floyd fought.
Next in line would be Calzaghe for being the first Undisputed SMW.
Then Pavlik.
Mundo
11-12-2007, 06:30 PM
cotto or the winner of the hatton mayweather....
tragicliston
11-12-2007, 06:32 PM
Probably Pavlik. But a real good case could be made for Cotto. The only other serious candidate to my mind is the winner of PBF-Hatton. Calzaghe would be in the running if one of his fights hadn't been the abortion against Manfredo. The other guys in the running have all faced better over-all competition,
brooklyn1550
11-12-2007, 06:32 PM
Miguel Cotto
Runner-Ups
Kelly Pavlik
Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
Joe Calzaghe
Juan Diaz
MJRJJ23
11-12-2007, 06:33 PM
Hatton if he upsets PBF
If Hatton looses...it's either Cotto or Pavlik.
are you saying if Hatton wins he would get it, then why not Floyd if he wins that'll give him Hoya and Hatton which I believe is better wins than Cotto's Judah and Mosley, or Pavlik over Miranda, Taylor. if I had to put them in order i would say Mayweather (if he wins), Pavlik, Cotto, Joe C, Pac. ^^^ just for arguments sake :good
Dorfmeister
11-12-2007, 06:34 PM
Unless Ricky Hatton pulls off the upset, then Kelly Pavlik should be Fighter of the Year IMO.
No doubts about it, that should be crystal clear for anyone... Actually, even if Ricky hadn't kayoed Castillo, a win over Mayweather by itself would put him at the P4P top ratings ( which I don't agree with btw) and in the All Time Great British Boxing Achievements overseas.
Punisher33
11-12-2007, 06:35 PM
Pavlik, he finished both of his tough oppenents in Miranda and Taylor in awesome fashion.
psychopath
11-12-2007, 06:35 PM
A toss up between Cotto and Pavlik.
But more on Cotto because it's Judah and Mosley against Miranda and Taylor.
Miranda is nothing but an agressive and exciting upcoming fighter when Pavlik demolished him.
MJRJJ23
11-12-2007, 06:37 PM
Cotto. Hatton will not win a round against Mayweather and Mayweather hand picked Hatton as an easy win over a name opponent, along with Mayweather's win over a past it DLH, it's not enough.
Cotto did -
TKO Urkal, TKO Judah, UD a better Mosely than the version of Hoya that Floyd fought.
Next in line would be Calzaghe for being the first Undisputed SMW.
Then Pavlik.
i think the win over a past it DLH is better than a win over an underachieving Judah, and a win over Hatton which is rated top 10p4p is better than an aged Mosley. I think Manfredo seriously hurts Cals chance, Pavlik has a great argument though
FCDSJ07
11-12-2007, 06:39 PM
Don't forget about Pavlik's KO against Jose Luis Zertuche in January. I think it's gotta be Pavlik - he's got 3 KO victories. Yes, his opposition won't match that of other fighters, like Mayweather for example if he beats Hatton. But if you consider the action and drama involved in Pavlik's KO's and the fact that last December he was doing landscaping for $10.00 for extra money between fights, and now he's middleweight champ, I think this is his year. He accomplished more this year for his career. He's on the cover of Ring magazine next month, too.
igotJUIC3
11-12-2007, 06:39 PM
Cotto. Hatton will not win a round against Mayweather and Mayweather hand picked Hatton as an easy win over a name opponent, along with Mayweather's win over a past it DLH, it's not enough.
Cotto did -
TKO Urkal, TKO Judah, UD a better Mosely than the version of Hoya that Floyd fought.
Next in line would be Calzaghe for being the first Undisputed SMW.
Then Pavlik.
your spinning it to look good for Cotto but Oscar had just came of an impressing win just like Mosley so i say the wins are the same....i dont see how you negate either or raise eithers win over one another.
Illmatic
11-12-2007, 06:40 PM
Clearly Mayweather. An ATG and a top 10 p4p
brooklyn1550
11-12-2007, 06:41 PM
you think the Mosley Cotto fought was better than the one Oscar fought?????????????????
Please boxing GODS have him say no
Yes, he was. Sharper, better reflexes, and better stamina. Mosley was relatively active too.
MJRJJ23
11-12-2007, 06:42 PM
you think the Mosley Cotto fought was better than the one Oscar fought?????????????????
Please boxing GODS have him say no
I think is what he was trying to say is that Mosley was a better boxer, more active and in better condition fighting Cotto than the DLH that fought Mayweather, I dont think he's saying that the mosley that fought Cotto was the same Mosley that fought Oscar
41fever
11-12-2007, 06:46 PM
If Mayweather beats Hatton, regardless of how he beats him who do you believe should receive fighter of the year. Or vica Versa if Hatton beats Mayweather.
Cotto- TKO Judah, UD Mosley
Mayweather- SD Hoya, ??? Hatton
Hatton-- KO Castillo, ?? Mayweather
Pacman-- KO Solis, UD Barrera
Joe C-- TKO Manfredo, UD Kessler
Pavlik-- TKO Miranda, TKO Taylor
Cotto struggled in both fights but won
PBF fought a promoter and Hatton
Pac man wasn't impressive vs MAB
Joe against MAnfredo was a bogus stoppage
Pavlik stopped two tomato cans, J/K
I VOTE FOR KELLY PAVLIK!!!!
sonny73
11-12-2007, 06:46 PM
Before the Mayweather/Hatton fight its a toss up between Pavlik and Calzaghe,I'd go Pavlik as his second opponent was abit better,tho saying that Kessler looked better than Taylor looked leading up to their fights.Cotto hasn't just beaten any number ones in any division this year or ever in his career yet.
MJRJJ23
11-12-2007, 06:48 PM
Also even though Hoya was over the hill Mayweather did come up to 154 to fight Hoya, which is by far not Mayweathers best weight class. This should come into consideration to
dangerousity
11-12-2007, 06:49 PM
Hatton/PBF winner. You can say Hatton is handpicked all you like but fact is many people rag on PBF for not fighting the best at 140 despite picking up a belt...well hes doing it now. Granted not at 140 but its still Ricky Hatton. Hatton is also top 10 p4p and undisputed JWW champ, if a p4p fighter and undisputed champ is considered handpicked for PBF then thats just a testament to PBF's skill more than anything else. Outside of Cotto, Hatton is also the biggest fight for PBF out there and definetely bigger than Cotto before Cotto beat Mosley. Hatton beating Castillo/FMJ this year pretty much says it all.
Orang-Utan Jim
11-12-2007, 06:54 PM
Cotto or winner of Hatton/Mayweather
Calzaghe definitely not. His Kessler win makes im a Top5 P4Per but not Fighter of the year.
MJRJJ23
11-12-2007, 06:56 PM
Somebody should run a poll maybe. I dont no how to do it or I would've done it
Calzaghe is eligible for Fight of The Year, but no way does he get Fighter of The Year when he fought twice, and one of them was Peter Manfredo. No matter how great the Kessler fight was, the Fighter of The Year should have given a lot that year.
Cotto has an argument, and so does Mayweather, but I have Cotto struggling and possibly losing the Mosley fight, albeit against a HOF-lock. As for Mayweather, with the Fight to Save Boxing a disappointment to so many people, and all that crap about how he was going to KO Oscar, then I don't think he's done it either.
I think Pavlik is the answer. Personally, as a huge fan, I'm all about David Haye this year, but in global boxing terms I recognise that his achievements remain great but are not as significant as Pavlik's to the worlwide audience. Pavlik smashed his way up and deposed the undisputed no. 1, in dramatic fashion, taking out the supposed heir apparent on the way. He did all of it in classy and entertaining fashion.
Should Hatton somehow beat PBF though, then I might be stuck between the two.
41fever
11-12-2007, 07:01 PM
A toss up between Cotto and Pavlik.
But more on Cotto because it's Judah and Mosley against Miranda and Taylor.
Miranda is nothing but an agressive and exciting upcoming fighter when Pavlik demolished him.Judah was coming off losses and Mosley was rebounding from the Winky losses and Vargas wins. Pavlik fought THE champ @160, also Miranda and JT were at their PRIME.
Rock0052
11-12-2007, 07:46 PM
Don't forget about Pavlik's KO against Jose Luis Zertuche in January. I think it's gotta be Pavlik - he's got 3 KO victories. Yes, his opposition won't match that of other fighters, like Mayweather for example if he beats Hatton. But if you consider the action and drama involved in Pavlik's KO's and the fact that last December he was doing landscaping for $10.00 for extra money between fights, and now he's middleweight champ, I think this is his year. He accomplished more this year for his career. He's on the cover of Ring magazine next month, too.
Pavlik's my pick, too. If Mayweather stops Hatton, that would really impress me as well.
As of right now, I've got it:
Pavlik
Cotto
Calzaghe (I give a ton of credit for Kessler, but the Manfredo incident, a necessary evil as it was, hurts him for this award)
Mayweather-Hatton is such a wild card, I can't predict where the winner would rank until the fight actually happens.
gambleer
11-12-2007, 07:51 PM
Pavlik or Hatton if he wins.
Unless Ricky Hatton pulls off the upset, then Kelly Pavlik should be Fighter of the Year IMO.
On target as usual.
mike464
11-12-2007, 08:02 PM
Well I think it could go to one of three fighters. If Hatton beats Mayweather he is fighter of the year easily. If Mayweather wins it could go to either Pavlik or Mayweather. If the fight is a draw it should go to Pavlik.
snoop
11-12-2007, 08:04 PM
pbf if he wins or cotto
stuistylee
11-12-2007, 08:15 PM
im going 2 go with a fighter that i dont have attachments 2(sounds gay i know)...kelly pavlik and thats because he was in fights i enjoyed and some of the brighter lights won but didnt win well or excitingly...i can easily see this 1 going 2 a couple...the ring will prolly pick pavlik ...they seem 2 like the breakthrough guy(oh i forgot hoya owns the ring now)...scratch that
roadrunner
11-12-2007, 08:40 PM
Cotto. Unless PBF wins his next assignment with Hatton.
Pavlik... until Hatton shocks the world.
Floyd by a mile. After he gets rid of Hatton, who else can you pick?
Pavlik. He has beaten (and devastated) the champ at 160lb and a top level, dangerous Miranda this year.
That exceeds a 34 year old DLH and a guy who you yourself on this thread are saying has no chance against Floyd in Hatton.
Lol, when you devalue a fighter and say he has no chance to beat Mayweather, you probably have no business claiming Mayweather should be fighter of the year. :good
darkness
11-12-2007, 10:44 PM
Hatton if he wins. Floyd if he dominates and Pavlik if niether of those happens.
Sorry to beak it to you buddy. Hatton ain't shocking the world.
No you're right, I at least won't be that shocked when he wins :yep
chimba
11-12-2007, 10:50 PM
Pavlik...hands down!!!
drvooh
11-12-2007, 11:05 PM
Unless Ricky Hatton pulls off the upset, then Kelly Pavlik should be Fighter of the Year IMO. :good
saul_ir34
11-12-2007, 11:21 PM
From Caguas Puerto Rico! Miguel Angel COTTOOOO!!!!!
Fuck Pavlik Cotto did better
platnumpapi
11-12-2007, 11:22 PM
mayweather beating odh and hatton is big on paper
but i like the kelly pavlik koing miranda and then taylor more then anything right now.
cotto beating or tko judah and then beating shane in a ud is good to.
id say
kelly
mayweather
cotto
pac
in that order
mayweather beating odh and hatton is big on paper
but i like the kelly pavlik koing miranda and then taylor more then anything right now.
cotto beating or tko judah and then beating shane in a ud is good to.
id say
kelly
mayweather
cotto
pac
in that order
Good post.
I guess you will be in complete shock when Floyd handles your boy like a rag doll in there.
:lol::lol::lol:
You obviously haven't seen (m)any Hatton fights
From Caguas Puerto Rico! Miguel Angel COTTOOOO!!!!!
Fuck Pavlik Cotto did better
Any reasoning?
You obviously haven't ssen many Mayweather fights. Did you see what happened to Hatton last time he stepped up to WW? Imagine what the p4p best fighter in the world is goiing to do to him.
Well I'd imagine he'd pretty soundly dominate him! Skill differential aside, the size difference would be an unsurmountable problem for Ricky... but then he's not fighting Joe Calzaghe is he. :patsch
BobDigi5060
11-12-2007, 11:55 PM
Pavlik has nothing going against him this year. If Floyd wins he will get it but Hatton shouldn't if he wins. Cotto is just behind the MW champ but only Pavlik is worth.
Monstar
11-13-2007, 01:24 AM
cotto
RealIzm
11-13-2007, 04:18 AM
Pavlik:good
I think the winner of Hatton-Mayweather is a lock to get FOTY Award becuase both guys have already beaten big names this year and the winner of this fight willl have another big name on his list that he has defeated this year. Cotto has defeated both Judah and Mosley and that would probably get him FOTY any other year but this has been such a great year for boxing that I am thinking it goes to the winner of Mayweather-Hatton.
Spot On.
The only guy who comes close in terms of MULTIPLE big wins is Pavlik - Miranda and Taylor.
RealIzm
11-13-2007, 05:07 AM
The only guy who comes close in terms of MULTIPLE big wins is Pavlik - Miranda and Taylor.[/quote]Let's not forget Zertuche when talking about Pavlik. Oddly it was the only fight this year where Kelly was expected to win but had arguably his toughest challenge especially if you take away rd 2 of Pavlik-Taylor. Anyone who has seen the Zertuche fight knows what I'm talkin about. So 3 big fights(2 eliminators and 1 title fight)all won by ko in rd 7 to become the new middleweight champion= Fighter of the Year. Mayweather?:lol: :lol: He struggled against an old DLH and will soon struggle with a blown up LWW. Cheers:good
Pavlik has nothing going against him this year. If Floyd wins he will get it but Hatton shouldn't if he wins. Cotto is just behind the MW champ but only Pavlik is worth.
why shouldn't hatton if he beats mayweather? moving up in weight to beat the p4p #1, lol that would be enough on it's own. but ko'ing castillo who had never gone down before would make it a certainty
razor
11-13-2007, 07:51 AM
Unless Ricky Hatton pulls off the upset, then Kelly Pavlik should be Fighter of the Year IMO.
:good:bbb:bbb
ssabripo
11-13-2007, 08:20 AM
pending a shocking Hatton win over PBF, it should be:
1. Pavlik
2. Cotto
3. Calzaghe
if Hatton wins, it should be:
1. Hatton
2. Pavlik
3. Cotto.
MrMagic
11-13-2007, 08:22 AM
Most definitely Pavlik, then Cotto, and then Calzaghe/PBF/Hatton
Cotto hasn't beaten a top P4P opponent, so it can't be him. mosley was about 12th before the loss, so it wasn't as big a win as Pavlik over Taylor or Mayweather over Hatton or vice versa. His win over Judah wasn't anything either. Considering most people predicted a win for Cotto within 5 rounds, was it really such a big win?
Fighter of the year should have a win over the best opposition. Mayweather has a win over DLH, who was about 15th. Hatton has a win over Castillo who was about 22nd. Whoever wins this fight will have the best couple of wins, so deserve to win it.
Calzaghe shouldn't be too close either. his win over kessler, who was ranked about 14th, is not big enough.
1. Winner of Mayweather/Hatton
2. Pavlik
3. Cotto
Gsand
11-13-2007, 10:53 AM
If Hatton wins then him, if not Calzaghe, Pavlik or Cotto
ChampionsForever
11-13-2007, 12:30 PM
If Hatton does a job on Mayweather then I think it should be him, especially if he did it in style, otherwise I think Cotto is #1 or Pavlik or unfortunatley PBF. The fact that there is 4 people in serious contention shows us how great a year of boxing this has been.
Pimp C
11-13-2007, 12:33 PM
PBF should be fighter of the year if he beats Hatton. Going up to face Oscar at 154 for his first fight there and beating a top 10 P4P fighter in Hatton helps him as well.
Chief_Second
11-13-2007, 12:37 PM
jury's out on "Hatton-- KO Castillo, ?? Mayweather" if the ?? becomes a KO then no doubt it will be hatton.
otherwise i think pavlik or PBF deserves it
BeeGee
11-13-2007, 01:25 PM
Cottos a serious choice. KO zab win over shane. Pavlik ko miranda KO taylor. Floyd if he wins over Hatton and Hatton if he wins over Mayweather. A choice cant be made until Hatton Mayweather is over.
Mind Reader
11-13-2007, 02:47 PM
If Hatton beats Mayweather I think It will be him, good cases could be made for all mentioned though.
Between Hatton is he wins, Joe Calzaghe or Pavlik.
the_what
11-13-2007, 02:49 PM
Kelly Pavlik is the sure Fighter of the year.
booradley
11-13-2007, 03:26 PM
Cotto or Pavlik. UNLESS Hatton upsets PBF.
David UK
11-13-2007, 03:35 PM
Pavilk without doubt. Not only did he have a couple of good wins, he did the boxing world a favour by exposing the whole Taylor,Hopkins,Tarver,Wright(at170) shot Jones charade
valdez
11-13-2007, 05:07 PM
Cotto or Pavlik..
snoop
11-18-2007, 12:26 AM
the winner of hatton vs pbf
madjabber
11-18-2007, 01:55 AM
Cotto
Pavlik
PAC
Isreal Vasquez
Boom_Boom
11-18-2007, 01:56 AM
most impressive this year is Pavlik
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