the Great Julio Cesar Chavez vs Miguel Cotto/Ricky hatton/or Floyd mayweather

[omega dega Doom]

who would win these fight's Chavez being in his upmost prime? I say Chavez would KO both Cotto and Hatton within 5 rounds in a slugfest that neither Cotto or hatton could withstand! and PBF would go down before 11 rounds from being broke in 1/2 by the most feared and destructive punch in all of Boxing history the Chavez Left Hook(gauncho)to the body!:happy

[RAMPAGE0017]

I think he'd definitely stop Cotto, Hatton I'd see going the distance in Chavez' favor. If Mayweather were to fight Chavez I'd bet my money on Chavez, but I don't necessarily think that Mayweather wouldn't be able to Chavez as well.... Mayweather never takes any gambles, so I think Chavez would out-hustle, and continuously pressure Mayweather in the same fashion which Castillo did in their first fight. As much as I detest PBF he would probably have a chance of coasting/pot-shotting to a decision, as well.

Cotto/Chavez would be an excellent fight.

[BigReg]

I think Chavez knocks out Ricky, but he would have some trouble with Cotto. Floyd I think totally outclasses Chavez. Remember people, Chavez would have lost to Taylor had Taylor not decided to brawl in the 12th and Whitaker gave Chavez a boxing lesson(only to get robbed). Floyd may not better than Whitaker, but he's definately better than Meldrick Taylor. Great boxer beats great puncher almost every time.

[Mundo]

chavez beats both Cotto and Hatton....but gets totally outboxed by Mayweather...but would make a hell of a fight if that makes sense lol.

[omega dega Doom]

chavez beats both Cotto and Hatton....but gets totally outboxed by Mayweather...but would make a hell of a fight if that makes sense lol.your kidding right? JL Castillo took it to mayweather in their first fight which 95% of the experts said castillo won! Chavez and his relentless pressure and desructive body attack would break PBF down and ruin him like he did Meldrick Taylor(unfortunetly the Boxing commisions let him continue to fight way longer then he should have):bbb

[Franchise_411]

Chavez would kill Hatton ... Cotto would get dominated, but he would go the full 12 ... The Mayweather fight wouldn't happen, he'd duck Chavez, probably cop-out with his usual shtick about how he's already the greatest and that he has nothing to prove.

[omega dega Doom]

YEp killed taylor's career pretty much.
Chavez TKO Cotto 6-9 round
Chavez TKO Hatton 10-12th on cuts or hurt to body
CHavez UD Mayweather (JLC/ PBF 1 fight almost the same BUT PBF gets beat all to hell swollen left shoulder, broken ribs, broken hands, pissing blood for 2 weeks etc..)I like your reply! I'm going to put you on my "buddy list":bbb

[BaronBrad]

Interesting thread.

I think Hatton would do better than Cotto. Cotto has had his problems with a lot lower calibre of fighter than JCC. If JCC hit Cotto with some of the shots other fighters have and then followed them up where others didn't then I am quite confident that Cotto would get stopped.

Hatton proved that had he can eliviate a power punchers shots (Tzsku and Castillo). Therefore I do not think that JCC would be able to stop him. Who would win it on points is an interesting one - I'm not sure.

Mayweather would probably adopt a similar strategy as to the one which defeated de la Hoya. Therefore I think he'd outpoing JCC.

[joito3]

Cotto way too big for chavez....

Floyd too smart & too fast for him

Hatton-Chavez....pick em fight 50/50

[CASH_718]

I say Chavez beats Cotto by late TKO and UD's Hatton and Mayweather outboxes him.

And I'll give Freddy's predictions............Chavez KO 1 Cotto, KO 2 Hatton, KO 3 Mayweather.

[CASH_718]

Chavez wins them all, pretty simple. If Castillo could give Mayweather so much trouble, imagine what a rime Chavez could do. Don't bring up Meldrick Taylor, the only thing he and Floyd had in common was skin color and the fact that both were quick, they fought nothing alike.

Chavez either decisions Floyd at 130 or 135 or stops him late, probably decision though. He outboxes and hurts Cotto on the inside and KO's him within 5, and wins a decision or stops Hatton late.What happened in the second fight??? Floyd had an off night vs Castillo in there first fight and this is coming from someone who hates Mayweather.

[Mundo]

your kidding right? JL Castillo took it to mayweather in their first fight which 95% of the experts said castillo won! Chavez and his relentless pressure and desructive body attack would break PBF down and ruin him like he did Meldrick Taylor(unfortunetly the Boxing commisions let him continue to fight way longer then he should have):bbb

after i posted that i thought of the first castillo fight lol. but yeah youre right he would take it to mayweather with a brutal body attack...im just thiking of the mayweather that showed up for the second castillo fight.

[brooklyn1550]

Chavez KOs Cotto at 140
Chavez KOs Hatton at 140
Chavez decisions Mayweather at 135 or 140

[gilad]

Chavez Ko's Cotto at 140 but loses to him at 147, loses to Floyd on points in a close fight and against Hatton it's a 50:50 fight at 140 (no knoockout, both guys are animals at this weight). Chavez is a little overrated in my opinion, but he was a great fighter.

[o_money]

Chavez Ko's Cotto at 140 but loses to him at 147, loses to Floyd on points in a close fight and against Hatton it's a 50:50 fight at 140 (no knoockout, both guys are animals at this weight). Chavez is a little overrated in my opinion, but he was a great fighter.

If Floyd got everything he could handle by a Chavez sparing partner he'd get his ass spanked by the real deal.

[Wilhelm]

I think JCC beats Hatton no matter what. I think he beats Cotto at 140, but at 147 I'm not so sure. I don't think he beats PBF at all.

[Sonny Carson]

Mayweather would simply just outbox Julio. Julio couldn't deal with boxer's with great speed like Mayweather. He would knock Hatton and Cotto out. The fight against Castillo was his first fight at lightweight he didn't know what to expect and he didn't really take Castillo serious. Lampley said that before the fight all Mayweather talked about was money and not Castillo. The second time around it wasn't close.

[Koa]

There is one opening that nobody has exploited vs PBF and thats the right hand behind the elbow when he's standing sideways with the shoulder roll.

Reason I bring this up is because SRL used this punch against Senior.. Not sure this is an illegal punch today, but you can see it thrown to some extreme effect at 2:24, 2:45, and 2:52... Now if Chavez throws shots like those against Mayweather Jr I think he would be slowed down.. Mayweather likes to go into that position when his opponents crowd him, or he goes into that position and looks to counter with left hooks, or cover up for right hands to the head..

Check the vid..

If Chavez watched this vid he would have at least part of an offensive answer to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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[warchild]

Assuming that all of these matches take place at 140 lbs., where all of these fighters fought at one time....

Chavez stops Hatton inside of 10 rounds no problem....Hatton relies too much on toughness, which would be a non-factor against Chavez.

Chavez stops Cotto inside of 10 rounds, with Cotto doing pretty well, but getting beat up too much, getting caught, and ultimately getting stopped.

Chavez wins a decision against Mayweather, with the deciding factor being that Mayweather, suprisingly not able to out-box Chavez, attempts to win rounds by moving during the second half of the fight, which only makes matters worse, as an undaunted Chavez moves forward picking off shots with his gloves and staying busy.

All of these fighters would stand a chance of beating Chavez, but stylewise....Cotto fares the best because he'd get Chavez' respect with some solid shots early on, Hatton gets pummeled when he runs into a brick wall, and Mayweather runs into problems when he finds that Chavez can land on him much more than he thought and that plan B isn't really a plan at all.

[omega dega Doom]

Mayweather would simply just outbox Julio. Julio couldn't deal with boxer's with great speed like Mayweather. He would knock Hatton and Cotto out. The fight against Castillo was his first fight at lightweight he didn't know what to expect and he didn't really take Castillo serious. Lampley said that before the fight all Mayweather talked about was money and not Castillo. The second time around it wasn't close.LOL, Meldrick taylor was way faster then PBF and he threw tons of combo's unlike PBF and chavez got to him repeatly in 12 rounds! Chavez would KO him within 11 rounds for sure!:bbb

[digiram]

There is one opening that nobody has exploited vs PBF and thats the right hand behind the elbow when he's standing sideways with the shoulder roll.

Reason I bring this up is because SRL used this punch against Senior.. Not sure this is an illegal punch today, but you can see it thrown to some extreme effect at 2:24, 2:45, and 2:52... Now if Chavez throws shots like those against Mayweather Jr I think he would be slowed down.. Mayweather likes to go into that position when his opponents crowd him, or he goes into that position and looks to counter with left hooks, or cover up for right hands to the head..

Check the vid..

If Chavez watched this vid he would have at least part of an offensive answer to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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That shot's also an invitation for a counter left hook or right hand(if he's using the elbow to parry), and PBF is quick enough to land it, unlinke Snr.

[digiram]

LOL, Meldrick taylor was way faster then PBF and he threw tons of combo's unlike PBF and chavez got to him repeatly in 12 rounds! Chavez would KO him within 11 rounds for sure!:bbb

Taylor also had greater defense and reflexes as well right?? :patsch

I think the fight goes 12 rounds, and Chavez takes it b/c he's the agressor although the fight could go either way.

[omega dega Doom]

Taylor also had greater defense and reflexes as well right?? :patsch

I think the fight goes 12 rounds, and Chavez takes it b/c he's the agressor although the fight could go either way.his superior speed and agressive offense was his superior defense dufus!:roll: Fighters are suppose to "fight" not play "peek-a-boo" or "hide and seek" or the worst style yet "Tag" :nono :roll:

[omega dega Doom]

I don't see how people say Floyd beats Chavez in his prime when Floyd clearly has trouble with pressure fighters. Hell Jesus Chavez was giving him a very hard time before his corner stopped it. Castillo gave him the fights of his life and most think he was robbed in the first one, and Oscar was giving him a lot of trouble before he got winded. Chavez was a better, smarter pressure fighter and a better body puncher than all of these guys. Chavez is one I have full confidence would beat Floyd.amen!:happy

[Sonny Carson]

I think people are forgetting that Chavez didn't have the footwork to cut off the ring Castillo did. He cut off the ring against Stevie Johnston and Floyd. When Whitaker and Taylor were using there legs and hand speed Chavez had a tough time. Manny Stewerd also said that "Chavez didn't have the footwork to cut off the ring. Chavez was a greater fighter than Castillo but he didn't have his skill of cutting off the ring against quicker guy's.

[sweet_scientist]

I think people are forgetting that Chavez didn't have the footwork to cut off the ring Castillo did. He cut off the ring against Stevie Johnston and Floyd. When Whitaker and Taylor were using there legs and hand speed Chavez had a tough time. Manny Stewerd also said that "Chavez didn't have the footwork to cut off the ring. Chavez was a greater fighter than Castillo but he didn't have his skill of cutting off the ring against quicker guy's.

There was no need to cut the ring off on Taylor, Taylor was right there in his face exhibiting a whirlwind of activity. He wasn't running.

Whitaker had unconventional mobility being close (but just out of range) the whole fight. Put Castillo in with Pea and its Pea-Ramirez II all over again.

[Sonny Carson]

There was no need to cut the ring off on Taylor, Taylor was right there in his face exhibiting a whirlwind of activity. He wasn't running.

Whitaker had unconventional mobility being close (but just out of range) the whole fight. Put Castillo in with Pea and its Pea-Ramirez II all over again.
Ramirez had trouble catching Ray Mancini so leave him out of this.

[Biggame]

I don't see how people say Floyd beats Chavez in his prime when Floyd clearly has trouble with pressure fighters. Hell Jesus Chavez was giving him a very hard time before his corner stopped it. Castillo gave him the fights of his life and most think he was robbed in the first one, and Oscar was giving him a lot of trouble before he got winded. Chavez was a better, smarter pressure fighter and a better body puncher than all of these guys. Chavez is one I have full confidence would beat Floyd.

I don't understand why ppl are so obsessed w/the the 1st Castillo fight as if there wasn't a 2nd one! Floyd was injured before, and during the fight and still won. The 2nd fight was a very easy fight for Floyd, but you guys never bring that up.

You guys also seems to still be stuck on Floyd's fights at 147lbs and up where he's fighting much bigger guys. Between 130lbs-140lbs Floyd was a monster w/lighting speed, and good pop. He threw more punches, and used his jab more. IMO he'd easily outbox Chavez who had problems w/boxers, and guys w/good footwork would have a ton of them w/Floyd. He was blessed by Steel in his fight w/Taylor, and he lost to Pea(not officially) Both these guys had speed, good movement w/the exception of Taylor once he stopped moving he was an easy target. One thing that should be noted...Taylor was easy to hit, and not the smartest guy inside the ring yet he took Chavez to the limit w/just speed before both those things caught up w/him. Pea was not that offensive that fight, but used his superior footwork, speed and defense to control the fight(Jabs) and keep Chavez at a distance and in check and all this is w/no power! At 130-140lbs Floyd didn't lack speed, or power. His defense is/was superior, along w/his footwork, and movement. I'm sry folks if this hurts, but Chavez never had good footwork, and he wasn't that great at caughting off the ring against Pea at all. Trying to cut off the ring against Floyd would be the same thing, except there be punches w/more power coming at him, and counters he wouldn't even see coming. Floyd fights excellent off the ropes, and in the pocket. He's a highly intellegent fighter, and plays no games when the bell rings.

I see Chavez cut and swollen up from accumulative damage trying catch up to Floyd. He'd be outlanded 3-1 against Floyd easily. Also...Floyd wouldn't allow himself to be in Taylor's situations(to smart), and he would be more offensive, and not be in Pea's situation at the end of thier fight by landing more telling and affective shots!

Floyd by UD!!!