View Full Version : If Haye does move up, what C/W could beat Enzo!
robpalmer135
11-15-2007, 12:47 PM
Other than Huck (who will beat Cunningham) I can't see any other C/W troubleing Macceranelli. He would easialy beat Virgil Hill, Godfrey or the other guy fighting for the WBC belt. Bell looks like hes gone mental, Mormeck is probably never gonna be the same after what Haye did to him.
Huck vs Macceranelli is the biggest fight in the division now that Haye is moving up!
kurt2006
11-15-2007, 01:09 PM
Put him in with Tomasz Adamek.
Or maybe FW could get Mark Hobson to change his name by deed poll to David Haye and we could finally have Enzo fighting David Haye.
Claypole
11-15-2007, 02:27 PM
Bobby Gunn would beat Enzo in a rematch. It was only an unfortunate cut that saved Enzo, he doesn't have the bottle to face him again.
achillesthegreat
11-15-2007, 04:18 PM
Enzo has the ability to beat them all.
dwilson
11-18-2007, 06:34 PM
Macca should be able to dominate the division. No one stateside or over in Europe is a top level fighter. You can mention some very good fighters but no one who instantly strikes fear into an opponent. Hopefully we may see all the guys squaring off to find a unified champion over the next year or so.
Huck is dangerous but not as good as Haye, Mormeck is obviously past it and one paced, Cunningham is my overall pick but beatable and most of the rest are just making up the numbers. Right now the division is open for an improving fighter with good punch power like Enzo to over.
huck IMO will be the real deal.
he is a very good pressure/box fighter has very good fundamentals/
good power/good chin/high workrate/can box and infight/good size and strength/
very hard to keep him off you/good speed /good combo`s.
for a cruiserweight he does not have many flaws.
maybe cunningham will give him problem with movement and he will not adapt and cut the corners but he is light on his feet and by no means a plodder.
he was able to take tokorov`s punches with no distress, but maybe if macca lands a big bomb he would go.
at the moment there are a few unanswered questions about huck but all the ingredients are there for him to be a dominant force at cruiserweight.
i have reservations over his temperment as he does like a barney sometimes when there is no need to, but with home advantage in germany, good backing and with his style and workrate he will be hard to beat.
robpalmer135
11-19-2007, 06:51 AM
Macca is not that big a puncher, name a top opponent he has knocked out?
simonsingh
11-19-2007, 07:55 AM
Bell KO's Macaroni, you guys are deluded.
Betty Swollocks
11-19-2007, 08:12 AM
I don't see Macarinismelli as being any better than a clutch of cruisers...there are no stars in the division but Cunningham, Huck, Wilson, Bell to name a few are surely at least as good as the hanpicking Welshman? Mormeck is better, so is Haye.
China_hand_Joe
11-19-2007, 09:39 AM
Any upper end of world class puncher can (certainly have a chance of some sort) beat Enzo. That should be obvious.
Mormeck for example.
Smith
11-19-2007, 09:56 AM
Mormeck
Bell
Huck
Darnell
Could all beat Macca, he's fucking pish.
Steve Fox
11-19-2007, 11:40 AM
I would say he's the best Welsh cruiser out there at the moment, maybe ever.
Adamek, Huck, Bell, Mormeck, Wilson, Alexeev, Tokarev, Wlodarkstkov, Cunningham
Steve Fox
11-19-2007, 11:45 AM
Adamek, Huck, Bell, Mormeck, Wilson, Alexeev, Tokarev, Wlodarkstkov, Cunningham...okay then, name another nine.
Max Molyneux
11-19-2007, 12:01 PM
Adamek, Huck, Bell, Mormeck, Wilson, Alexeev, Tokarev, Wlodarkstkov, Cunningham
Bell was lucky to be a champion.
Wilson most has a punch and an Iron chin.
Adamek has only beat a journyman at Cruiser and was owned by the last boxer he fought.
Mac would school Mormeck, he's a one dimensional target.
Steve Fox
11-19-2007, 12:17 PM
Bell was lucky to be a champion.
Wilson most has a punch and an Iron chin.
Adamek has only beat a journyman at Cruiser and was owned by the last boxer he fought.
Mac would school Mormeck, he's a one dimensional target.Obviously you don't think Enzo's one dimensional then? I'm interested in where you got all this belief in Enzo from, based on what I've seen, he's looked better than the poor opposition he's been put in against.
Words
11-19-2007, 02:50 PM
Mac would school Mormeck!! :lol:
Mormeck is a very dangerous guy, he did pretty well against Haye put him on the deck. Enzo Mac has never had any experience of being under that kind of pressure against someone as world-class as Mormeck.
Maybe Mormeck can only keep that up for 6 rounds at his age, fair enough, but Enzo's chances of survival in those 6 rounds are 15% at best. If he makes it out of the early stages and boxes at very long range and he sneak a UD, but thats unlikely.
The Mormeck of about 3, 4 years ago would totally school Enzo.
I'd pick O'Neil Bell to beat Enzo too, he hits too hard and he's got some good skills. Bell is one of the few guys at Cruiser who I think could hack it at Heavyweight. Much bigger, much stronger than Enzo and would have my pick.
You've also gotta look at the guys in the top 10, Ding, Huck, Adamek, Cunningham, Tokarev and so on and I'd give every single one of them a chance of beating Mac. Fact is he's inexperienced at world level, whereas these guys arent, so he could find himself in deep waters and getting KO'd.
Danny Ocean
11-19-2007, 04:11 PM
hill huck cunningham mormeck bell could beat him
rumour24tiger
11-20-2007, 06:54 AM
Macca should be able to dominate the division. No one stateside or over in Europe is a top level fighter. You can mention some very good fighters but no one who instantly strikes fear into an opponent. Hopefully we may see all the guys squaring off to find a unified champion over the next year or so.
Huck is dangerous but not as good as Haye, Mormeck is obviously past it and one paced, Cunningham is my overall pick but beatable and most of the rest are just making up the numbers. Right now the division is open for an improving fighter with good punch power like Enzo to over.I really doubt he can dominate the division. He can dominate the WBO, but what else?
In the US, there's Godfrey and Aaron Williams coming up.
In Europe, there's Huck, Alexeev, Vlad Povetkin (younger brother of heavyweight hope Alexander), big Cuban Yoan Pablo Hernandez, on the way up.
The current crop are gone. Mormeck demolished, Haye moving up, Cunningham never as good as some though he was...The men listed in the above paragraph will be contesting the WBC, WBA and IBF belts.
Mac has shown me nothing to suggest he'll do anything but beat on American journeyman, recycled versions of Mormeck and co...he will be isolated in Wales, improving his skills and whinging that no one will fight him. He desperately needs a charismatic foe like Haye to raise his profile, and he needs the advantage of having a weight drained opponent.
Mac will find he can't have his cake and eat it. Enzo Calzaghe will keep him fit so that when his peers are fading in 5 or 10 years, that Macaroni basically outlasts them. If he's still champ and his peers aren't, then he'll say he was the best...
****** can be as bad as the Germans at burying titles. I guess it'll take an Allen Quatermain to beat Enzo Maranacchio!
Enzo is desperatley overrated on this forum, he shouldn't even have a belt.
hill huck cunningham mormeck bell could beat him
macrannelli would easily beat hill IMO.
i saw hill being a shadow of himself v henry maske and maske had not boxed in years and years and yet won fairly easily..
dwilson
11-20-2007, 06:11 PM
I really doubt he can dominate the division. He can dominate the WBO, but what else?
In the US, there's Godfrey and Aaron Williams coming up.
In Europe, there's Huck, Alexeev, Vlad Povetkin (younger brother of heavyweight hope Alexander), big Cuban Yoan Pablo Hernandez, on the way up.
The current crop are gone. Mormeck demolished, Haye moving up, Cunningham never as good as some though he was...The men listed in the above paragraph will be contesting the WBC, WBA and IBF belts.
Mac has shown me nothing to suggest he'll do anything but beat on American journeyman, recycled versions of Mormeck and co...he will be isolated in Wales, improving his skills and whinging that no one will fight him. He desperately needs a charismatic foe like Haye to raise his profile, and he needs the advantage of having a weight drained opponent.
Mac will find he can't have his cake and eat it. Enzo Calzaghe will keep him fit so that when his peers are fading in 5 or 10 years, that Macaroni basically outlasts them. If he's still champ and his peers aren't, then he'll say he was the best...
****** can be as bad as the Germans at burying titles. I guess it'll take an Allen Quatermain to beat Enzo Maranacchio!
The younger Povetkin is a poor and apart from Hernandez the guys you mentioned are not too hot either. You are right about those two americans looking good but i'm not totally blown on them. So you have to look at the other guys already in the frame and they all have plusses and minuses and can all beat each other, no one stands out.
The division could throw up some great fights but anyone with any real ability will be wanting to jump ship to try his luck with the hw division.
riot187
11-20-2007, 09:01 PM
Mormeck, Bell, or Cunningham would all beat Enzo quite easily in my eyes (as crazy a they appear to be in my avatar... admit it, that's cool!). Enzo is nothing but a hype job and in the unlikely event that ****** ever let him near Haye he would be destroyed. I state my case of which I'm certain!
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