Tszyu v Mayweather

[Proud Warrior]

At 140 in Tszyu's prime who wins? I would of loved to see how Mayweather handled a punch flush on the chin from him! Also is it me or in the last few weight divisions Mayweather has won his titles has he done it without fighting the man in each division?

[BigReg]

I think it's just you. He beat the recognized champ at 130 and 135, and 147, there was no universally recognized champ at 154, and Hatton said he wasn't ready to fight him when he was at 140.

[robert ungurean]

Tszyu might catch him. Really tough call.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

At 140 in Tszyu's prime who wins? I would of loved to see how Mayweather handled a punch flush on the chin from him! Also is it me or in the last few weight divisions Mayweather has won his titles has he done it without fighting the man in each division?


It is you mate as the only division he did not fight the man or the linear champion was at Light Welterweight(140 pounds) everywhere else he did. Hernandez and Corrales at Junior Lightweight, Castillo at Lightweight, Baldomir and Judah at Welterweight and Oscar De La Hoya at Ligh Middleweight.

At Light Welterweight Tyzu was injured and when he became available had to face the long overdue mandatory in Mitchell. Then full credit to Frank ****** who pulled a flanker paying over the odds to get an inactive 35 year old Tyzu to Manchester to face Hatton. After Hatton won they decided not to make the match asking for ridiculous sums of money to fight PBF. PBF took care of Gatti taking the prestigious WBC belt and DeMarcus Chop Chop Corley then he went up in weight to beat the true champions at Welterweight and Light Middleweight.

I love Kostya Tyzu I think he was a great champion at the weight and in his prime one of the top pound for pound fighter as an excellent technical boxer puncher. However Mayweather has always been something special. For me PBF takes this one as unfortunately for Tyzu PBF is not Mitchell or Judah.

[Kostya Zoo]

I think it's just you. He beat the recognized champ at 130 and 135, and 147, there was no universally recognized champ at 154, and Hatton said he wasn't ready to fight him when he was at 140.

Well if the Hatton fight happens he could potentially claim lineal @ 140 as well. Would do some good shit for his career.

[Kostya Zoo]

BTW I pick Tszyu in this fight. But it's tough to call, even for me, as a Tszyu fan. Let's just say I wouldn't put a huge amount of $$ on it.

[Gsand]

Hes not taking credit

Sure he may have re-used but thats not uncommon

Maybe opinions have changed since your post

[Proud Warrior]

Hes not taking credit

Sure he may have re-used but thats not uncommon

Maybe opinions have changed since your postThank you mate :thumbsup

[Proud Warrior]

dude , i can resort to swear words, but instead, im gona report u to ESB to get ur a*** banned from this site, u immature 14 yr old.
u just cant hack it u sound like an idiot , and every1 is laughing at u regurgitating whats already been said.. wake up and smell the coffeeGet a life! Me acting like im 14,its you who has been watching to much teenage mutant ninja turtles DUDE!

[tills9191]

Get a life! Me acting like im 14,its you who has been watching to much teenage mutant ninja turtles DUDE!

:lol: :lol:
ok this is the last time I'm gona reply to you , because you sound really not up to my level, and I'm wasting my time replying to you,but learn how to spell, and stop wasting my time... u got done.., so get...:hi:

[EpsilonAxis]

IMO Zoo would always beat Mayweather.

[jimmie]

I like to point out in the only 2 really close fights of Tszyus career he was brutally KOed and quit with a round left in a close fight on the cards. If you think Mayweather either gets blown out or stopped with a single shot in the 2nd round like Judah a man he beat up your fucking nuts. Mayweather wins 116-112.

[Metal Man]

I can see Zoo winning this.He'll keep Mayweather on the outside with fast straight hard punches.Mayweathers style suits Zoo,allowing him to establish a rythm and time Floyds stick and move counters similar to the Mitchell fights.

[jimmie]

I can see Zoo winning this.He'll keep Mayweather on the outside with fast straight hard punches.Mayweathers style suits Zoo,allowing him to establish a rythm and time Floyds stick and move counters similar to the Mitchell fights.

Mitchell was a southpaw who isnt in Floyds league and thats a proven fact. Southpaws are at many times open for a straight right hand which Tszyu made a career of.

[Asterion]

Also is it me or in the last few weight divisions Mayweather has won his titles has he done it without fighting the man in each division?


While it's true that Mayweather never beat the man at 140 (he beat the #1 contender Gatti but never fought Tszyu), he did beat the recent former 147 Champ -Judah- and the Champ -Baldomir-. Oscar was probably the best fighter at 154 (he sure was the biggest name), but nobody knows since that division is fuckin anarchy. Anyway...Mayweather will beat Hatton in November to prove that he beat the best in every division. :yep

[Napoleon]

:lol: :lol:
ok this is the last time I'm gona reply to you , because you sound really not up to my level, and I'm wasting my time replying to you,but learn how to spell, and stop wasting my time... u got done.., so get...:hi:

:rofl You sound like one of those 5 year old kids arguing with an adult.

Get our of here retard because at least Proud Warrior has correct capitalization.

P.S your whole paragraph is one sentence.:lol:

[Mosley2Sweet]

Mayweather, comfortably. KT was incredibly easy to figure out.

[cuchulain]

I like to point out in the only 2 really close fights of Tszyus career he was brutally KOed and quit with a round left in a close fight on the cards. If you think Mayweather either gets blown out or stopped with a single shot in the 2nd round like Judah a man he beat up your fucking nuts. Mayweather wins 116-112.


This topic was done about a month ago.

At that ime my prediction was 116-112 for Mayweather.

But I also said ther was about a 40 % chance of Kostya scoring a KO in the first 6 rounds.

Mayweathe would be favourite but it could be risky for him.

[Pimp C]

PBF always beats Zoo.

[cuchulain]

PBF always beats Zoo.

ANY boxer can lose to any other boxer on a given night.

[Koa]

This is a joke. Mayweather schools Tszyu on a bad day. If he was willing to press the issue the fight would be identical to the Gatti fight, but being that Mayweather would play it safe I say he wins the decision, 10-12 round absolute blowout.

[cuchulain]

This is a joke. Mayweather schools Tszyu on a bad day. If he was willing to press the issue the fight would be identical to the Gatti fight, but being that Mayweather would play it safe I say he wins the decision, 10-12 round absolute blowout.


There is absolutely no comparison between Arturo and Kostya.

Arturo was never more than a B-level fighter and would have been KO'd by Tszyu in shorter time than Floyd needed.


I still see Mayweather winning a comfortable decision , but still with a significant chance of being KOd early.

[Shake]

Kostya was never cool under pressure. In fact, taking the play away from him was a sound tactic.

I don't think this is something Floyd can do. Still, I see Floyd eking out a decision in what would be a tactical match.

[PorkChopExpress]

Lol... here we go again...

There was a thread exactly the same as this last week.

In anycase... Tszyu in his prime has the tools to deal with PBF. Same said for PBF as he has the tools for just about everyone...

Tszyu is a great headhunter and can upset Mayweather. Mayweather certainly has the skills to deal with him. It's a close fight to call. If it happened I would have picked Tszyu

[CarltonBlues]

Tszyu would have needed a knockout to win. Mayweather probably would have won a boring decision like he did against Oscar.
Gatti with the way he fights wouldn't have lasted 4 rounds with Tszyu.

[brooklyn1550]

Floyd Mayweather UD12 Kostya Tszyu

[Koa]

There is absolutely no comparison between Arturo and Kostya.

Arturo was never more than a B-level fighter and would have been KO'd by Tszyu in shorter time than Floyd needed.


I still see Mayweather winning a comfortable decision , but still with a significant chance of being KOd early.

Its more the style of fighter I'm seeing. Kostya beat nothing but B level fighters, lost to a c level fighter and has a defense only slightly better than Gatti's.. He has better power than Gatti, and in his last display boasted less heart against Ricky Hatton. I believe his strength was precision power which is the only thing that keeps Mayweather honest, and is the ONLY reason Mayweather would chose to fight him carefully.

[BoppaZoo]

Tszyu to win with accurate punching and being a better Counter puncher,
the fight would be similiar to what MAB did to Hamed.

Tszyu wins by late TKO 10

[BoppaZoo]

Its more the style of fighter I'm seeing. Kostya beat nothing but B level fighters, lost to a c level fighter and has a defense only slightly better than Gatti's.. He has better power than Gatti, and in his last display boasted less heart against Ricky Hatton. I believe his strength was precision power which is the only thing that keeps Mayweather honest, and is the ONLY reason Mayweather would chose to fight him carefully.so your calling Vernon Forrest,Miguel a Gonzalez,Roger Mayweather,Zab Judah,Sharmba Mitchell,Julio C Chavez,Diobelys Hurtado,Rafael Ruelas and Oktay Urkal all B level fighters.

yet nearly all of them have been rated in the top 6 by Ring magazine at 140.

Koa you are the stupidist shit on this board.

trust me Tszyu beat more guys in there Prime than most of todays fighters.
its easy to judge Tszyu's resume when you only know him from one fight his loss to Hatton at 36 years of age.
Styles make fight idiot its not about who beat who when two men are in the ring.
at one side you have PBF a fast defensive guy like Judah but with an orthodox stance.
Kostya Tszyu never and i mean never had a problem with slick guys in fact 95% of the time he KO'd them.

this were people get all caught up in oh but he never beat anyone decent.
but i would call Gonzalez in his prime decent,i would call Judah in his prime decent(Cotto took 11 rounds to put Judah away)
, i would call Hurtado decent in his prime, i would call Mitchell decent in his prime.

have a look at the records Kostya fought everywhere against anyone over in the States and Ko'd the best in his division.
ive heard PBF say that he didnt want to fight Tszyu well not untill he got older. when he said that about Tszyu KOstya was already 35 at the time. ive heard PBF talk shit about everyone out there but ive never heard him say one bad word about Zoo only he wanted no part of him untill he was 38.

PBF waited untill Gatti was finished hell he waited until ODH was finished.

if you recall seeing the MAB vs Hamed fight well that is the sort of style match up you would have.

PBF has great skills and picks his opponents apart.
but where everyone seems to underate Tszyu is in his hands he had qaulity speed everyone thought he was slow. but ask Judah how slow he is ask Vernon Forest how slow Tszyu is.

KOa all i will say is Tszyu cut the Ring off like no other fighter ive seen he stalked his prey. and is the second best counter puncher ive seen in the last 2 decades only to MAB.

Tszyu's style is perfect for PBF.

just like Hattons style is perfect for Tszyu's. why do you think ODH and Tszyu never fought why do you think Shane Mosley skipped the whole division Tszyu ruled.

to much risk for not enough reward against Tszyu.

Tszyu by TKO 10. watch the Gonzalez fight same thing will happen to PBF as what Zoo did to Gonzalez.

[Koa]

Tszyu to win with accurate punching and being a better Counter puncher,
the fight would be similiar to what MAB did to Hamed.

Tszyu wins by late TKO 10

Tszyu was an accurate puncher, but lets remember he wasn't accurate or fast enough to deal with a guy who stood right in front of him and made him quit. This thread is rediculous.

[JMotrain]

Zoo wins. He did well against slick boxers, it was pressure fighters who gave him problems. If he hurt Mayweather early, Mayweather would run the rest of the fight, and he wouldn't have the luxury of a slow start like he did against DLH or Judah because Zoo would keep the pressure on.

[bigtime9]

so your calling Vernon Forrest,Miguel a Gonzalez,Roger Mayweather,Zab Judah,Sharmba Mitchell,Julio C Chavez,Diobelys Hurtado,Rafael Ruelas and Oktay Urkal all B level fighters.


nice try but zoo never fought forrest as a professional:lol: roger and julio where shot beyond belief, the rest of those guys are like nobodies:rofl

[Drexl]

Right now, Floyd wins. that's a no-brainer.

But prime vs prime at 140, Tszyu catches Floyd. I have no doubt about this. People who have tried & failed against PBF in the past don't throw the same straight, quick, accurate & powerful punches as Tszyu. He's versatile in his combinations as well.

Tszyu would have been able to stun floyd at least once, and he's better at following up & finishing than any of Floyd's other opponents.

[bigtime9]

Right now, Floyd wins. that's a no-brainer.

But prime vs prime at 140, Tszyu catches Floyd. I have no doubt about this. People who have tried & failed against PBF in the past don't throw the same straight, quick, accurate & powerful punches as Tszyu. He's versatile in his combinations as well.

Tszyu would have been able to stun floyd at least once, and he's better at following up & finishing than any of Floyd's other opponents.


one question for you..does floyd loose to vince phillips in his prime.:lol:

[Koa]

so your calling Vernon Forrest,Miguel a Gonzalez,Roger Mayweather,Zab Judah,Sharmba Mitchell,Julio C Chavez,Diobelys Hurtado,Rafael Ruelas and Oktay Urkal all B level fighters.

yet nearly all of them have been rated in the top 6 by Ring magazine at 140.

Koa you are the stupidist shit on this board.

trust me Tszyu beat more guys in there Prime than most of todays fighters.
its easy to judge Tszyu's resume when you only know him from one fight his loss to Hatton at 36 years of age.
Styles make fight idiot its not about who beat who when two men are in the ring.
at one side you have PBF a fast defensive guy like Judah but with an orthodox stance.
Kostya Tszyu never and i mean never had a problem with slick guys in fact 95% of the time he KO'd them.

this were people get all caught up in oh but he never beat anyone decent.
but i would call Gonzalez in his prime decent,i would call Judah in his prime decent(Cotto took 11 rounds to put Judah away)
, i would call Hurtado decent in his prime, i would call Mitchell decent in his prime.

have a look at the records Kostya fought everywhere against anyone over in the States and Ko'd the best in his division.
ive heard PBF say that he didnt want to fight Tszyu well not untill he got older. when he said that about Tszyu KOstya was already 35 at the time. ive heard PBF talk shit about everyone out there but ive never heard him say one bad word about Zoo only he wanted no part of him untill he was 38.

PBF waited untill Gatti was finished hell he waited until ODH was finished.

if you recall seeing the MAB vs Hamed fight well that is the sort of style match up you would have.

PBF has great skills and picks his opponents apart.
but where everyone seems to underate Tszyu is in his hands he had qaulity speed everyone thought he was slow. but ask Judah how slow he is ask Vernon Forest how slow Tszyu is.

KOa all i will say is Tszyu cut the Ring off like no other fighter ive seen he stalked his prey. and is the second best counter puncher ive seen in the last 2 decades only to MAB.

Tszyu's style is perfect for PBF.

just like Hattons style is perfect for Tszyu's. why do you think ODH and Tszyu never fought why do you think Shane Mosley skipped the whole division Tszyu ruled.

to much risk for not enough reward against Tszyu.

Tszyu by TKO 10. watch the Gonzalez fight same thing will happen to PBF as what Zoo did to Gonzalez.


I have no idea what comparison your trying to make by bringing up MAB vs Hamed. In no way was Hamed a technical fighter, nor a polished fighter. He had his own pedigree much like Mayweather, but I don't think many people would call him well rounded. The thing that gets me is the number of threads brought up about hypothetical matches, and what are in my oppinion retarded Kostya Tszyu benchmarks. He is the most over-rated fighter on these boards.

You need to take another look at his professional record. He never fought Forest. He fought an antiquated version of Chavez which means absolutely nothing to knowledgeable fight fans. Who else did he beat? Oh, Sharmba Mitchell, Jesse James Leija, and Miguel Angel Gonzales, Zab Judah.. A respectable list of names for a very good fighter which Kostya Tszyu was. However, when you consider what defeated Tszyu, it should leave you no questions as to whether or not he would be able to compete with Floyd Mayweather Jr.

To be honest, I would love to see KT come out of retirement and shut me the fuck up, because I would be extremely happy if someone would shut Mayweather up for a change.

Thing is, I have the sense to recognize that when it comes to boxing ability, Mayweather is on an entirely different level than Tszyu.

It might be that Tszyu speaks better english than Mayweather, doesn't suffer from ADD and is able to complete sentences, unlike Mayweather.. But when it comes to boxing this is a no brainer..

[IrnBruMan]

Tszyu was an accurate puncher, but lets remember he wasn't accurate or fast enough to deal with a guy who stood right in front of him and made him quit. This thread is rediculous.

Your post is what's ridiculous - you neglect to mention all the holding and clinching that took place in the Hatton fight.

I guess that would take some of the impact out of saying Tszyu was too slow to beat a guy who stood in front of him :deal

[IrnBruMan]

I have no idea what comparison your trying to make by bringing up MAB vs Hamed. In no way was Hamed a technical fighter, nor a polished fighter. He had his own pedigree much like Mayweather, but I don't think many people would call him well rounded. The thing that gets me is the number of threads brought up about hypothetical matches, and what are in my oppinion retarded Kostya Tszyu benchmarks. He is the most over-rated fighter on these boards.

You need to take another look at his professional record. He never fought Forest. He fought an antiquated version of Chavez which means absolutely nothing to knowledgeable fight fans. Who else did he beat? Oh, Sharmba Mitchell, Jesse James Leija, and Miguel Angel Gonzales, Zab Judah.. A respectable list of names for a very good fighter which Kostya Tszyu was. However, when you consider what defeated Tszyu, it should leave you no questions as to whether or not he would be able to compete with Floyd Mayweather Jr.

To be honest, I would love to see KT come out of retirement and shut me the fuck up, because I would be extremely happy if someone would shut Mayweather up for a change.

Thing is, I have the sense to recognize that when it comes to boxing ability, Mayweather is on an entirely different level than Tszyu.

It might be that Tszyu speaks better english than Mayweather, doesn't suffer from ADD and is able to complete sentences, unlike Mayweather.. But when it comes to boxing this is a no brainer..

Because Floyd fights like Vince Phillips and Ricky Hatton :rofl :rofl :rofl

[IrnBruMan]

one question for you..does floyd loose to vince phillips in his prime.:lol:

Oh so I guess the point you're trying to make in your autistic way is that because PBF would probably beat Vince Phillips, then PBF can defnitely beat Tszyu.

Gee, I always thought the whole triangulation theory of "If fighter A can beat fighter B..." was flawed due to the "styles make fights" theory.

I guess not in your asperger's-riddled brain huh chump?

You a dumb motherfucker boy :yep

"hurhurhurhurhur!!!!"

[JMotrain]

Your post is what's ridiculous - you neglect to mention all the holding and clinching that took place in the Hatton fight.

I guess that would take some of the impact out of saying Tszyu was too slow to beat a guy who stood in front of him :deal

Are you serious? Hatton should have been DQ'd for excessive holding. He was also throwing elbows, which is also illegal btw. 2 against 1 is hard to beat.

[IrnBruMan]

Are you serious? Hatton should have been DQ'd for excessive holding. He was also throwing elbows, which is also illegal btw. 2 against 1 is hard to beat.

no shit sherlock - I wasn't commending Hatton's tactics, I was pointing out to Koa that there was more to it than just 'Ricky Hatton standing there in front of Tszyu all night'

[cuchulain]

Its more the style of fighter I'm seeing. Kostya beat nothing but B level fighters, lost to a c level fighter and has a defense only slightly better than Gatti's.. He has better power than Gatti, and in his last display boasted less heart against Ricky Hatton. I believe his strength was precision power which is the only thing that keeps Mayweather honest, and is the ONLY reason Mayweather would chose to fight him carefully.

Kostya beat nothing but B-level fighters?

That statement hurts your credibility.

Judah, Pineda, Gonzalez , Mitchell, Hurtado to name a few.

Harris was a good B-level fighter. (One loss hardly drops you from HOFer to bum)

And against Hatton, he was almost 36.

Our discussion earlier was based on PRIME Kostya, who would be a bigger puncher at 140 than anyone Mayweather ever faced.

His destruction of Zab (who had a very similar style and speed to Mayweather) should be more than enough to cause Floyd concern.

His strength and precision (and you forgot timing) would definitely keep Mayweather honest.

Like I said to begin with, I'd pick Floyd by 116-112 or therabouts, but he stands about a 40 % chance of being KOd early.

[cuchulain]

nice try but zoo never fought forrest as a professional:lol: roger and julio where shot beyond belief, the rest of those guys are like nobodies:rofl


Can you list the other nobodies, nobody?

[cuchulain]

nice try but zoo never fought forrest as a professional:lol: roger and julio where shot beyond belief, the rest of those guys are like nobodies:rofl


Name some of the nobodies, Nobody

[moore]

I like to point out in the only 2 really close fights of Tszyus career he was brutally KOed and quit with a round left in a close fight on the cards. If you think Mayweather either gets blown out or stopped with a single shot in the 2nd round like Judah a man he beat up your fucking nuts. Mayweather wins 116-112.

And I'd like to point out you don't know fuck all. In fact you were too lazy to even goto boxrec and get at least a raw picture.

[SUNOF7]

Tszu was KO by Vince Phillips... he has done nothing in his career comparable to Mayweather. He is not on Mayweather's level in terms of talent. He is more deified for his one shot landing against Zab Judah than for anything else. he landed the perfect shot and never gave Zab a rematch. Tszu is and was overrated...

[fidds]

Tszu was KO by Vince Phillips... he has done nothing in his career comparable to Mayweather. He is not on Mayweather's level in terms of talent. He is more deified for his one shot landing against Zab Judah than for anything else. he landed the perfect shot and never gave Zab a rematch. Tszu is and was overrated...

:rofl :rofl :rofl



Oh dear your in for it now :-(

Oh how come tszyu ko'd mitchel in 3 yet a even more shot mitchel lasted 6 with mayweather ?

[SugarRay]

Tszu was KO by Vince Phillips... he has done nothing in his career comparable to Mayweather. He is not on Mayweather's level in terms of talent. He is more deified for his one shot landing against Zab Judah than for anything else. he landed the perfect shot and never gave Zab a rematch. Tszu is and was overrated...

You the same guy nuthugging Mayweather on the Whitaker vs Mayweather thread? Geez, Mayweather is the guy yet to prove himself. A past-the-prime dela Hoya aint good enough dude. Furthermore, talent alone does not win you fights especially when you are fighting someone like Tszyu. The two fighters who beat Tszyu outhustled and outmuscled him. Mayweather don't all into that category. Tszyu also had excellent boxing skills. He was almost unbeatable as an amateur.

[BoppaZoo]

Tszu was KO by Vince Phillips... he has done nothing in his career comparable to Mayweather. He is not on Mayweather's level in terms of talent. He is more deified for his one shot landing against Zab Judah than for anything else. he landed the perfect shot and never gave Zab a rematch. Tszu is and was overrated...oh and add insult to injury, Kostya KO'd Judah a Prime no loss Judah and 2 rounds my friend.

and it took PBF 12 rounds and he lost the first 4 to Judah.

like i said and will always say by PBF saying he wanted no part of Kostya Tszyu well not until he was Roger's age means he is a pussy why.
because PBF said he was waiting for KT to get as old as Roger before they would think about fighting Kostya yet KT was 35 when PBF made this statement.
you know how old Roger was when he lost to Kostya 34 and KT was 25.

Roger knew Kostya's style would cause havac for PBF why do you think PBF never said anything towards Zoo.

all these so called fans go on and on about who beat who but never mention once about style's and how come PBF would be to good for KT.

you just keep saying the same thing and thats oh but PBF beat Oscar,Castillo,Corrales who are better yeah well i say this did PBF ever put away a guy of even Judah's class in 2 rounds.

oh and by the way this fight scenerio has been done to the ground i wish the fight happened but it was never going to because PBF was a pussy.

because i couldnt see Kostya turning down a fight anywhere anytime.

Prime Tszyu vs Prime PBF at 140

Tszyu by TKO 10.

[Thom]

oh and add insult to injury, Kostya KO'd Judah a Prime no loss Judah and 2 rounds my friend.

and it took PBF 12 rounds and he lost the first 4 to Judah.

like i said and will always say by PBF saying he wanted no part of Kostya Tszyu well not until he was Roger's age means he is a pussy why.
because PBF said he was waiting for KT to get as old as Roger before they would think about fighting Kostya yet KT was 35 when PBF made this statement.
you know how old Roger was when he lost to Kostya 34 and KT was 25.

Roger knew Kostya's style would cause havac for PBF why do you think PBF never said anything towards Zoo.

all these so called fans go on and on about who beat who but never mention once about style's and how come PBF would be to good for KT.

you just keep saying the same thing and thats oh but PBF beat Oscar,Castillo,Corrales who are better yeah well i say this did PBF ever put away a guy of even Judah's class in 2 rounds.

:roll:

You're back again with nonsense. Prove that Mayweather ducked prime, uninjured Tszyu when they weren't in the same weight class. I'm waiting to see some evidence.

[igotJUIC3]

oh and add insult to injury, Kostya KO'd Judah a Prime no loss Judah and 2 rounds my friend.

and it took PBF 12 rounds and he lost the first 4 to Judah.

like i said and will always say by PBF saying he wanted no part of Kostya Tszyu well not until he was Roger's age means he is a pussy why.
because PBF said he was waiting for KT to get as old as Roger before they would think about fighting Kostya yet KT was 35 when PBF made this statement.
you know how old Roger was when he lost to Kostya 34 and KT was 25.

Roger knew Kostya's style would cause havac for PBF why do you think PBF never said anything towards Zoo.

all these so called fans go on and on about who beat who but never mention once about style's and how come PBF would be to good for KT.

you just keep saying the same thing and thats oh but PBF beat Oscar,Castillo,Corrales who are better yeah well i say this did PBF ever put away a guy of even Judah's class in 2 rounds.

oh and by the way this fight scenerio has been done to the ground i wish the fight happened but it was never going to because PBF was a pussy.

because i couldnt see Kostya turning down a fight anywhere anytime.

Prime Tszyu vs Prime PBF at 140

Tszyu by TKO 10.

Some of you are making too much of the 2nd round knockout...FIRST off...im not discrediting Zoo because he earned his knockout...BUT...if anyone ever REALLY paid attention to the fight...ZOO could not handle ZAB's speed he was gettin his ass whopped...he won the first round with EASE....the only thing that got Judah which is his life story is that he knew he could beat Zoo lost his head let his hands down all the way to his side and Zoo is jut way to good for that and thus your results...PLUS had Judah took his time he gets up easily and still overcomes that.....Zoo obviously had no heart anyway Floyd's defense would break him down mentaly and Floyd dominates later rouds anyway if he doesnt win the close early rounds....i say this because as good as Zoo is....HE QUIT WITH HATTON.....that says enough about his mentality and heart...Zoo was very good..but beat FLOYD...come on man....be for real.

[BoppaZoo]

:roll:

You're back again with nonsense. Prove that Mayweather ducked prime, uninjured Tszyu when they weren't in the same weight class. I'm waiting to see some evidence.ask any PBF fan this is a comment PBF made after Tszyu beat Mitchell.

i dont have the link but we were shown a link by a PBF fan.

yes he said this ask around someone should have the link. you know what good old PBF did intsead he went after you guessed it he went after Brusells to get to a old done Gatti.

i am terminated this discussion why your not on my level why its always about who PBF's beat and never about his style and why he beats Tszyu.

Why his defense. he some how aviods Tszyu's right for a whole 12 rounds whitout getting hurt once. he is to fast for Tszyu which is BS why because they said the same about Judah.

still the same shit with the PBF fans just a different day.

ive given my reasons why Tszyu would beat PBF.
1. Tszyu is a far better counter puncher and Counter Punchers always have the upper hand over quick guys. e.g MAB vs Hamed.

2. Tszyu's right hand and i doubt very much that PBF can go 12 rounds without getting hit with Tszyu's right.

3. why because he is the most accurate most patient fighter ive seen.

4. Everyone thinks Tszyu's slow but ask anyone that seen Tszyu in his prime or fought Zoo in his prime if he was slow.

5. last but not least fighters that need room to run to pick there oppoent's appart need space out there to win like PBF does.
Tszyu cut of the ring better than anyone we have seen and stalked his prey and put there lights out.

now if you can come up with why PBF would aviod all of that then go for it. but if your like all the other phony's i bet you say oh but PBF beat better comp. well in a Ring Style is everything and ive never seen Kostya Tszyu lose to a guy like PBF at all. the only type he had truoble with was big strong wrestling type guys aka Hatton and Phillips.

Get a clue.

[BoppaZoo]

Some of you are making too much of the 2nd round knockout...FIRST off...im not discrediting Zoo because he earned his knockout...BUT...if anyone ever REALLY paid attention to the fight...ZOO could not handle ZAB's speed he was gettin his ass whopped...he won the first round with EASE....the only thing that got Judah which is his life story is that he knew he could beat Zoo lost his head let his hands down all the way to his side and Zoo is jut way to good for that and thus your results...PLUS had Judah took his time he gets up easily and still overcomes that.....Zoo obviously had no heart anyway Floyd's defense would break him down mentaly and Floyd dominates later rouds anyway if he doesnt win the close early rounds....i say this because as good as Zoo is....HE QUIT WITH HATTON.....that says enough about his mentality and heart...Zoo was very good..but beat FLOYD...come on man....be for real.this is the worst post ever.

yeah Tszyu starts slow but if anyone that seen this fight will tell you Tszyu was clearly ahead in round 2 before he knocked Zab down.

and you could tell in Zab'z face that he was trying hard to aviod Zoo's power. he was affraid of it and its written all over his face.

Tszyu would have dominated Zab no matter what just like he did ever other fast southpaw.

in fact his record against southpaws speaks for itself.

8-0 8 KO's
Get a Clue.

[igotJUIC3]

this is the worst post ever.

yeah Tszyu starts slow but if anyone that seen this fight will tell you Tszyu was clearly ahead in round 2 before he knocked Zab down.

and you could tell in Zab'z face that he was trying hard to aviod Zoo's power. he was affraid of it and its written all over his face.

Tszyu would have dominated Zab no matter what just like he did ever other fast southpaw.

in fact his record against southpaws speaks for itself.

8-0 8 KO's
Get a Clue.

SLOW starter....he cant afford that with Floyd cus Floyd gets stronger and better at the end....all im saying is ZAB whopped Zoo ass and Zoo was not the clearly leading the second untill the KO...and if you ask ANYONE with good knowledge of boxing ...had ZAB took his time getting up he still overcomes that and wins decision Zoo could not withstand Zab's speed...and LIKE i said ZAB mentality is horrible hence the hands being at his side when he got KO'd.....Zoo deserved that KO not taking it away but had that not taken place he loses the fight to a decision.

[igotJUIC3]

ask any PBF fan this is a comment PBF made after Tszyu beat Mitchell.

i dont have the link but we were shown a link by a PBF fan.

yes he said this ask around someone should have the link. you know what good old PBF did intsead he went after you guessed it he went after Brusells to get to a old done Gatti.

i am terminated this discussion why your not on my level why its always about who PBF's beat and never about his style and why he beats Tszyu.

Why his defense. he some how aviods Tszyu's right for a whole 12 rounds whitout getting hurt once. he is to fast for Tszyu which is BS why because they said the same about Judah.

still the same shit with the PBF fans just a different day.

ive given my reasons why Tszyu would beat PBF.
1. Tszyu is a far better counter puncher and Counter Punchers always have the upper hand over quick guys. e.g MAB vs Hamed.

2. Tszyu's right hand and i doubt very much that PBF can go 12 rounds without getting hit with Tszyu's right.

3. why because he is the most accurate most patient fighter ive seen.

4. Everyone thinks Tszyu's slow but ask anyone that seen Tszyu in his prime or fought Zoo in his prime if he was slow.

5. last but not least fighters that need room to run to pick there oppoent's appart need space out there to win like PBF does.
Tszyu cut of the ring better than anyone we have seen and stalked his prey and put there lights out.

now if you can come up with why PBF would aviod all of that then go for it. but if your like all the other phony's i bet you say oh but PBF beat better comp. well in a Ring Style is everything and ive never seen Kostya Tszyu lose to a guy like PBF at all. the only type he had truoble with was big strong wrestling type guys aka Hatton and Phillips.

Get a clue.

these reasons ae not valid my man.....FAR better counter puncher....come on man...do you watch Floyd's fights??? Matter fact watch any of his fights and they praise his counterpunching i dont care who it is like him or not they praise his counter punching so thats NONSENSE...and Floyd is well beyond just being a "quick guy"

his right hand...please he went 12 rounds without ODH's left which is better than Zoo's right.

You stating Zoo being the most accurtate fighter you have seen speaks volumes of your knowledge of boxing...again...FLOYD is one of the most accurate if not the most accurate today....look at his fight stats im willing to bet Floyds best accuracy is better than Zoo's best accuracy.

Zoo was not slow by no means....but he wasnt fast either he just had good timing and rhthym..totally diffrent....Floyd is nothing but timing and need i say faster...which means beating Zoo to the punch.

Zoo does have good ringsmenship i do believe that but what you have to remember is that Zoo coming forward is all PBF knows how to fight anyway....he will be used to that and slip slide and duck out the way...he has done it several fights...we all know PBF will not be forced to fight anyone's fights which is why his fights are boring to some....PBF simply wins this bout because he is just better than Zoo and this is not taking anything away from Zoo it would be a competitive fight maybe even a SD...i didnt think ODH would be a SD(it shouldnt if you asked me) but it was. People dont like PBF for personal reasons...FACT is...he is in his prime RIGHT NOW...this prime against Zoo's prime and Zoo will not win...just my opinion.

[SugarRay]

Some of you are making too much of the 2nd round knockout...FIRST off...im not discrediting Zoo because he earned his knockout...BUT...if anyone ever REALLY paid attention to the fight...ZOO could not handle ZAB's speed he was gettin his ass whopped...he won the first round with EASE....the only thing that got Judah which is his life story is that he knew he could beat Zoo lost his head let his hands down all the way to his side and Zoo is jut way to good for that and thus your results...PLUS had Judah took his time he gets up easily and still overcomes that.....Zoo obviously had no heart anyway Floyd's defense would break him down mentaly and Floyd dominates later rouds anyway if he doesnt win the close early rounds....i say this because as good as Zoo is....HE QUIT WITH HATTON.....that says enough about his mentality and heart...Zoo was very good..but beat FLOYD...come on man....be for real.

And if you really did pay attention did you not realise that Tszyu had Zudah figured out late in the 1st round!? Tszyu's punches were beginning to find their mark and that Zudah despite his BIG uppercut couldn't floor Tszyu. Zudah had to change tactics a bit that's why he didn't come out blazing in the second round.

Why discredit Tsyzu (who was 35yo) just because he couldn't make the 12th round against a very good Hatton??? The great Chavez was TKO'd by Tszyu in the 6th when Chavez was 36yo. No one seems to discredit Chavez.

Prime Mayweather barely beat a 135lb Castillo. You call that impressive??? Prime Tszyu would have been hungrier, bigger, sharper, fitter, stronger, bigger puncher, better boxer, etc...

[Dekkers]

Some of you are making too much of the 2nd round knockout...FIRST off...im not discrediting Zoo because he earned his knockout...BUT...if anyone ever REALLY paid attention to the fight...ZOO could not handle ZAB's speed he was gettin his ass whopped...he won the first round with EASE....the only thing that got Judah which is his life story is that he knew he could beat Zoo lost his head let his hands down all the way to his side and Zoo is jut way to good for that and thus your results...PLUS had Judah took his time he gets up easily and still overcomes that.....Zoo obviously had no heart anyway Floyd's defense would break him down mentaly and Floyd dominates later rouds anyway if he doesnt win the close early rounds....i say this because as good as Zoo is....HE QUIT WITH HATTON.....that says enough about his mentality and heart...Zoo was very good..but beat FLOYD...come on man....be for real.

Tszyu's been in tough fights, and shown heart plenty of times in his fights with Urkal, Phillips and Hurtado that i've seen. His corner pulled him out against Hatton and why not? Tszyu was out of it, had nothing left and was behind on the cards... what would three more minutes of what Hatton gave him in the 11th prove? I personally felt that Castillo could've gotten up from the bodyshot he caught from Hatton, yet who's going to call Castillo a quitter after all that he's shown in his career? Both guys have plenty of heart at their best.

Tszyu started a little slow in the first, but towards the end of the first he was getting the better of Judah. In the second he just continued what he started towards the end of the first and clearly took the round. Guys who say Judah 'dominated' before getting stopped have no credibility. Floyd himself respected Tszyu and he doesn't respect all that many fighters.

A prime Tszyu has a lot of things that would trouble Floyd, excellent handspeed, accuracy, an excellent counterpuncher (he'll take a shot to simulataneously deliver a counter, fakes to set up counters), power in both hands, very strong physically and great offensive technique (nice kit of punches, great left hook to the body, nice jab, can fight inside). Tszyu has as good an offensive arsenal as you could want from a fighter to take on a Floyd Mayweather that's going to fight in the pocket.

If Floyd moves a lot he has a better chance in the fight, he need to be a constantly moving target, in and out. That's a much more draining pace to fight at though, so Tszyu will have his chances late. If he stays in the pocket though i'm pretty sure Tszyu would have caught him and possibly stopped him. It's Floyd's fight to lose in some ways depending on the tactics he uses to face Kostya. You can never count out a puncher of Tszyus quality though.

I think a lot of the guys here giving Tszyu no chance just haven't seen enough of him.

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