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Titan1
11-16-2007, 10:57 AM
Who would win?

JohnThomas1
11-16-2007, 11:16 AM
Keep out of here dinner!

zippy
11-16-2007, 11:20 AM
I've never seen Conteh fight. What was his style like? This is going to sound weird, but how do you pronounce his name? :lol: It looks like "Con-Tay" but I never heard anyone actually say it, just read it a bunch of times.

jowcol
11-16-2007, 12:09 PM
You know me, if Eddie's heads on straight, with no weight issues he'd win tho a prime Conteh's box/punch style would make for a spirited and interesting scrap, providing John's keeps his head-butting to a minimum ;)

Hey Zip, check out the front cover of Paul McCartney's "Band on the Run" album. Conteh is one of the people shown on the cover...

zippy
11-16-2007, 12:14 PM
You know me, if Eddie's heads on straight, with no weight issues he'd win tho a prime Conteh's box/punch style would make for a spirited and interesting scrap, providing John's keeps his head-butting to a minimum ;)

Hey Zip, check out the front cover of Paul McCartney's "Band on the Run" album. Conteh is one of the people shown on the cover...


Yeah, I actually have that LP. So how do you pronounce his name? :lol:

mcvey
11-16-2007, 06:11 PM
Who would win?
At their best Muhammad,or Eddie Flame Gregory as he was when I started watching him.

littleguy
11-16-2007, 10:13 PM
Prime for prime I think Conteh would have won fairly easily, although Gregory/Muhammad would have had his moments. Conteh wasn't in his prime very long though. Injuries and stupidity wrecked his career.

Woller
11-17-2007, 10:22 AM
I go for Conteh too. He was really tough.

Woller

red cobra
11-17-2007, 12:34 PM
If Eddie falls into his old habit of not letting his hands go, then the resouceful Conteh would win a decision easily, but if the other Eddie showed up, the one who so masterfully took Marvin Johnson apart, or the one who destroyed Lotte Mwale, then the fight would belong to Mustafa. Two excellent fighters, but Eddie Mustafa Muhammad had the potential to be much more.

Mendoza
11-17-2007, 03:50 PM
I don't know a lot about Conteh. I am getting ready to order some DVD's.
Could someone recomend a Coneth fight or two where John was at his best?

mcvey
11-17-2007, 05:03 PM
I don't know a lot about Conteh. I am getting ready to order some DVD's.
Could someone recomend a Coneth fight or two where John was at his best?
The one with Jorge Ahumada is good a gruelling tough fight.

Mantequilla
11-17-2007, 05:17 PM
Conteh was a slightly better overall boxerpuncher than Gregory.Eddie even in his best performances liked to fight at his own pace and keep things slow so he could wait for countering openings.

John had better workrate and could mix things up more, he'd box and move then slip inside and rough you up like Duran and he had no issues with being forced out of his comfort zone.Very very dirty fighter.

I see Eddie waiting too long with his counterpunching and not throwing enough punches.Conteh was the only fighter from that era that matched him technically and had a far more ruthless "win at all costs" mindset.He'd take a close decision after a great chessmatch.

I know there are a lot of Gregory fans who consider him a true waste of all-time great potential and rightfully so but conteh was and still is the best pure technician at this weight since Harold Johnson in my eyes.

JohnBKelly
11-17-2007, 05:37 PM
This is a tough call, Conteh wasted his peak years and Muhammad never really set the world on fire. If the fight's in London Conteh wins, in the States then Muhammad is favourite. Conteh was very much a mood fighter who didn't always turn up.

JohnThomas1
11-17-2007, 09:17 PM
It's nice to see both these guys getting some good respect, if both fully fulfilled their potential they would have been anything.

zippy
11-17-2007, 09:25 PM
I've never seen Conteh fight. What was his style like? This is going to sound weird, but how do you pronounce his name? :lol: It looks like "Con-Tay" but I never heard anyone actually say it, just read it a bunch of times.


Guess I'll just call him John.:verysad

Duodenum
11-18-2007, 04:18 PM
When I consider what a one armed bandit Conteh was in the first Saad Muhammad match, tack on the fact that he was already past his best then, and juxtapose that against Eddie's performance in dethroning Marvin Johnson, I see Conteh taking the UD here.

Even against Johnson, Eddie just wasn't as aggressive as he should have been. (In fact, the most impressive offensive display I ever saw Eddie produce was in knocking out Mwale, a decent boxer, but hardly in Conteh's class.) In glaring contrast to how Eddie went about his business, Conteh went immediately after Saad, with jabs, hooks, and infrequent but accurate right crosses. If John had managed to keep his feet late, he should have won that decision. (As it was, some Yanks felt he did.)

He was easily the most skilled of Saad's title challengers.

ron u.k.
11-18-2007, 05:09 PM
conteh produced a remarkable performance to beat the tough yacqui lopez one handed.didn't throw a right hand all night.

Duodenum
11-18-2007, 06:24 PM
One of the first things I read about boxing instruction was that at least 80 per cent of the right hand's use should be for defensive purposes, and no more than 20 per cent for punching. Conteh certainly demonstrated how effective one could be relying almost exclusively on a great left jab and hook.

Mantequilla
11-18-2007, 07:02 PM
Conteh did have a strong right hand prior to breaking it badly.

After breaking it on Willie the bull Taylor's head he was basically a one-handed fighter.I don't believe he was able to properly make a fist with his right again.

Bummy Davis
11-18-2007, 07:17 PM
Eddie was the harder puncher but Johnny was busier, I think Conteh by Close UD

brownpimp88
11-18-2007, 08:02 PM
eddie by ud

mexman
11-18-2007, 09:25 PM
I think John's name was pronounced Con-tay, with the emphasis on "Con". I remember announcers pronouncing it that way when I watched his fights in the 70's.

This is a tough fight to predict as both were awesomely talented boxer-punchers with Conteh being the slightly better ring technician and Muhammad being the harder puncher.

I favor Conteh by a close decision.

Duodenum
11-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Conteh did have a strong right hand prior to breaking it badly.

After breaking it on Willie the bull Taylor's head he was basically a one-handed fighter.I don't believe he was able to properly make a fist with his right again.Mike Spinks also nearly broke both his hands on The Bull's head, but the referee stepped in to save Mike's hands from further punishment, when Willie was cranking up to throw another roundhouse hook. If Charlie Sgrillo had let that one go ten, boxing history might have changed. (How on earth did Yaqui Lopez ever manage to drop him for the count?)