Which Weight Class is The Most Difficult to Jump?

[acb]

Excluding the jump to heavy.

I think its the jump to middle.

[4Rounder]

Must be from Jr. Welter to Welterweight, thats a big 7 pounds and most of the Jr Welters do look much smaller than Welters.

Also probably from Light Heavy to Cruiser, you got big guys who weight 220+ pounds who drain down to cruiser, so Light Heavies who are about 10-15 lbs over the limit must really struggle fighting these guys.

I have also read somewhere that making the step from 130 to 135 lbs is one of the hardest things to do, according to some boxers.

[brooklyn1550]

I'd say the jump from 140 to 147 or 154 to 160 - both are tough

[brooklyn1550]

:good Yup, exactly what Floyd did and then to top it off he went up to 154 to face a guy who fought at MW and lost to the MW champ (at the time) who is now a 175 pounder. Unbelievable if you stop to think about it.

I'll give you that - Floyd is a phenominal fighter

[4Rounder]

:good Yup, exactly what Floyd did and then to top it off he went up to 154 to face a guy who fought at MW and lost to the MW champ (at the time) who is now a 175 pounder. Unbelievable if you stop to think about it.

Floyd would be quite fine at Jr. Welter, at his division he has to compete with guys reaching middleweight limit on fight night.

[Illmatic]

Excluding the jump to heavy.

I think its the jump to middle.

i agree. It seems like throughout history fighters have been able to go from 147-154, but not from 154-160

Hearns- kayo losses to barkley, hagler
trinidad- kayo loss to hopkins
oscar- kayo loss to hopkins
mugabi- kayo loss to hagler
griffith couldnt beat monzon...

etc, etc, but it could also be b/c middleweight tends to have dominant, long reigning champion

[sean]

the jump to super middle.

not a single middleweight in the last 10 years maybe even longer, made the transition from middleweight champ or contender to super middle champ.

[bulakenyo]

130 to 135.
I think the max-out weight for small framed fighters coming from the lower weights is 130 lbs. If they go higher, they'll lose relative quickness and power and they'll be adding mostly fat to their weights. (Pacquiao, Barrera, Morales)

While the 135 lbs division is the most effective max-bottom out weight for larger framed fighters. (Dela Hoya, Cotto, Mosely, PBF etc)
They just cut weight and lose fluids for the weigh in, then they gain it all back the next day.


So when a bloated up featherweight matches up with a larger framed fighter who only cut weight, at 135 lbs, it will be a major size and strength mismatch.

[Maxmomer]

:good Yup, exactly what Floyd did and then to top it off he went up to 154 to face a guy who fought at MW and lost to the MW champ (at the time) who is now a 175 pounder. Unbelievable if you stop to think about it.

That's nothing compared to Sam Langford.

[heidegger]

:good Yup, exactly what Floyd did and then to top it off he went up to 154 to face a guy who fought at MW and lost to the MW champ (at the time) who is now a 175 pounder. Unbelievable if you stop to think about it.

I know. DLH is a guy that was able to fight 9 rounds and take a lot of them off a big ATG middleweight. And Floyd beat him easily. Thats Amazing.

[UndisputedUK]

the jump to super middle.

not a single middleweight in the last 10 years maybe even longer, made the transition from middleweight champ or contender to super middle champ.

Hmm, early 1990's Eubank, Benn and Collins did with great success.

[Quik]

154 - 160 is arguably the hardest jump to make. Only great fighters (DLH, Trinidad for example) can make the jump and be competitive.

[ChampionsForever]

Any fighter who was a former Welter and makes the jump to middleweight is fucking good in my book, I think its the difference between a small guy and an average sized guy, worlds apart in boxing terms.

[joito3]

I know. DLH is a guy that was able to fight 9 rounds and take a lot of them off a big ATG middleweight. And Floyd beat him easily. Thats Amazing.

the DLH that fought Hopkins would have beat PBF unanimously and i'm not a DLH fanatic either

[nervousxtian]

I think you guys are misleading this issue.

The jump to welter looks hard for some of the guys listed, but that's only because they usually started at around 130-135.. of course by the prime/after-prime time of their careers then aren't going to be as good 12-17lbs more than their prime younger weights.

Also I don't get how someone can say that 10-15lbs ain't shit to cruiser/lt heavies but then argue that 5lbs is a lot to lightweights.. bullshit.

The biggest jump is lt. heavy to cruiser as you're talking a full 25lb difference in weight.

People who struggles with the other jumps of weight is only because they've ALREADY jumped multiple weight classes.

Take Hearns, by the time he got destroyed at Middle he had already moved to jr. middle after dominating (except Leonard) the welter division.

His prime was Welter.. 147... he wasn't as good when he was fighting as an older 160. It wasn't the one jump.

[TBooze]

The jump from 200 to 105 is a bastard;)

[4Rounder]

the DLH that fought Hopkins would have beat PBF unanimously and i'm not a DLH fanatic either
I agree, that DLH was fast and quick on his feet with a good jab. The version PBF fought had weights on his feet. DLH fought a much more versatile fighter in Hopkins than PBF fighting DLH and scraping through a split decision.

[4Rounder]

I think you guys are misleading this issue.

The jump to welter looks hard for some of the guys listed, but that's only because they usually started at around 130-135.. of course by the prime/after-prime time of their careers then aren't going to be as good 12-17lbs more than their prime younger weights.

Also I don't get how someone can say that 10-15lbs ain't shit to cruiser/lt heavies but then argue that 5lbs is a lot to lightweights.. bullshit.

The biggest jump is lt. heavy to cruiser as you're talking a full 25lb difference in weight.

People who struggles with the other jumps of weight is only because they've ALREADY jumped multiple weight classes.

Take Hearns, by the time he got destroyed at Middle he had already moved to jr. middle after dominating (except Leonard) the welter division.

His prime was Welter.. 147... he wasn't as good when he was fighting as an older 160. It wasn't the one jump.

Not really, Hatton and Judah came out of Jr. Welter and look considerably smaller for 147. Paulie Malignagi will look small at Welter. IMO.

[jecxbox]

140-147 has to be the hardest in boxing.


Look at the size difference, the guys that can make 140 and look strong in it, ricky hatton 5'6 malignaggi is an other tiny guy. Pretty much all those 140lbers are pretty small guys.

7 more lbs at 147 adds the possibility of 6 foot + men to starve themselves down to fight at. Cintron, Williams, Margarito. And of the past Trinidad De La Hoya. And when you got true power hitters like Trinidad for example who is nearly 6 feet tall..imagine Tito hitting a Malignaggi or a Hatton? Decapitation! I don't see how any other division can be harder. I don't think 154-160 is anywhere near as hard to make because if you are a natural 154lber than you aren't a small guy naturally at all and 160 shouldn't be that bad.

[natep]

The jump from 200 to 105 is a bastard;)
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Danny Ocean]

I agree, that DLH was fast and quick on his feet with a good jab. The version PBF fought had weights on his feet. DLH fought a much more versatile fighter in Hopkins than PBF fighting DLH and scraping through a split decision.
:-(

[4Rounder]

:-(

:nod

[MattyC808]

i agree. It seems like throughout history fighters have been able to go from 147-154, but not from 154-160

Hearns- kayo losses to barkley, hagler
trinidad- kayo loss to hopkins
oscar- kayo loss to hopkins
mugabi- kayo loss to hagler
griffith couldnt beat monzon...

etc, etc, but it could also be b/c middleweight tends to have dominant, long reigning champion

I really don't think that's a valid arguement. Hearns was champion at that weight, he just fought two great fighters with fucking chins like granite. All the guys you mentioned just lost one fight at the weight and were champions at one point or another at the weight.