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ryanty22
06-30-2007, 02:03 PM
Anyone know when dimitrenko will be fighting on american tv the clips ive seen of him online he looks awesome especially when he destroyed gonzalo basile.

Fat Tony
06-30-2007, 02:56 PM
Anyone know when dimitrenko will be fighting on american tv the clips ive seen of him online he looks awesome especially when he destroyed gonzalo basile.

He'll fight on July 14th against the famous TBA. The main event is Krasniqi-Thompson. If this Krasniqi-Thompson won't be televised in the US, Dimitrenko-TBA won't be either.

BTW:
Dimitrenko isn't a knockout artist, those youtube clips can be misleading.

sean
07-01-2007, 04:33 AM
what dimetrenko desperatley needs is sparring against pressure fighters to teach him how to relax in the ring , what to do, jab, upercut, work inside and not be worried about fighters pressuring him.

even with his amatuer career and his pro fights he has not got a clue how to adapt to this tatic and must learn.

also the stuff he klearns about moving his head in training is to forced , i think because he is so tensed up all the time in the ring.

relaxation is the key, to easier body movement and sparring the key to pressure fighters.

i am still one of the few in the minority on esb who thinks he can become a contender , just not against the brewster type fighters of this world unless he learns.

frank bruno relaxed and got better as he got older and dimetrenko must do the same.

Cachibatches
07-01-2007, 05:45 AM
what dimetrenko desperatley needs is sparring against pressure fighters to teach him how to relax in the ring , what to do, jab, upercut, work inside and not be worried about fighters pressuring him.

even with his amatuer career and his pro fights he has not got a clue how to adapt to this tatic and must learn.

also the stuff he klearns about moving his head in training is to forced , i think because he is so tensed up all the time in the ring.

relaxation is the key, to easier body movement and sparring the key to pressure fighters.

i am still one of the few in the minority on esb who thinks he can become a contender , just not against the brewster type fighters of this world unless he learns.

frank bruno relaxed and got better as he got older and dimetrenko must do the same.
Man, he's only 24-25 years old.

You have to think that at 6'7" with a solid amatuer background, 25 pro fights under his belt, and youth (!) on his side, he's going somewhere.

Hell, judging by the way other super-heavies have matured, this guy could be 5 or more years off of his physical prime.

Odo
07-01-2007, 09:22 AM
what dimetrenko desperatley needs is sparring against pressure fighters to teach him how to relax in the ring , what to do, jab, upercut, work inside and not be worried about fighters pressuring him.

even with his amatuer career and his pro fights he has not got a clue how to adapt to this tatic and must learn.

also the stuff he klearns about moving his head in training is to forced , i think because he is so tensed up all the time in the ring.

relaxation is the key, to easier body movement and sparring the key to pressure fighters.

i am still one of the few in the minority on esb who thinks he can become a contender , just not against the brewster type fighters of this world unless he learns.

frank bruno relaxed and got better as he got older and dimetrenko must do the same.

You are right,sean! He looks horrible whenever an opponent goes for him attacking and forcing him to fight on his backfoot.Nevertheless Dimitrenko's jab is very good,and his chin seems to be okay,too.
Quite impressive how he took Koval' s murderous haymaker and continued fighting.Lots of better known heavies would not have been able to keep fighting after such a knockdown.
Though I am not really sure how he would fare against some known bangers like Virchis,Wlad,Peter,or Chagaev.

boxexpert
07-01-2007, 09:36 AM
another overrated heavy dude. although he looks like ivan drago,he will probably never be world-champion.

sure,he is young but i dont think he will improve any further. having top-trainers like sdunek doesnt make you a better figher if this is not inside you....

Cachibatches
07-01-2007, 09:24 PM
Yeah but i can´t see him winning a belt even then with guys like Povetkin, Chagaev and Boytsov around. But he could fight for the title and be a contender for some years.
I'll settle far that. We just need some fresh blood. Who knows if Haye can take a heavywieght punch? Is Solis ever going to loose the weight he will have to loose?

Hell, as good as Povetkin looks, we haven't seen him against someone really hitting back.

My god, lets just see a couple of guys under 35.

One other point: sometimes a loss makes a fighter. Maybe Alex needs to take his lumps. I just think that witht his much time, experience and natural ability, he'll find a path to something, even if its not a title.

Flurry
07-02-2007, 03:34 AM
i have said years ago Dimi wansnt developing fast, that he had a prob when getting charged, that his jabbing was being overrated cos he couldnt keep anyone off of him with it. How old is he now? I dont know but hes been stagnating for years, he was supposed to be the next Klitschko about 3 to 4 years ago but it never happened. He should nt have gotten the nod against Bean

Artani
07-02-2007, 04:38 AM
Povetkin fighting better than him. Sdunek saying that he is not ready yet for big bouts. He asked Sdunek and Kohl to give him world title shot. He wants eliminator with Krasniqi but Kohl and Sdunek refused. Sdunek saying hin that Krasniqi is still better than you, i dont want to destroyed you, hahhahaa .
He must fight till 40 bouts like Valuev to have world title shot.

Cachibatches
07-02-2007, 06:23 AM
Povetkin fighting better than him. Sdunek saying that he is not ready yet for big bouts. He asked Sdunek and Kohl to give him world title shot. He wants eliminator with Krasniqi but Kohl and Sdunek refused. Sdunek saying hin that Krasniqi is still better than you, i dont want to destroyed you, hahhahaa .
He must fight till 40 bouts like Valuev to have world title shot.
I think Lou savarese is another paralell. He wasted so much time being on deck and never doing anything.

Artani
07-02-2007, 08:27 AM
I think Lou savarese is another paralell. He wasted so much time being on deck and never doing anything.

You are right :good . It will be good idea to fight guys like Bidenko, Virchis or Sinan Samil Sam. With this guys he will learn more boxing skills and will improve to much his self.

Odo
07-04-2007, 11:24 AM
You are right :good . It will be good idea to fight guys like Bidenko, Virchis or Sinan Samil Sam. With this guys he will learn more boxing skills and will improve to much his self.


Dimitrenko fighting Virchis and Bidenko? Hm! I for my part tend to think that both fighters have the wrong style for Dimitrenko.
Dimitrenko's best weapon is his excellent jab,and Samil Sam is tailor made for Dimitrenko's style.Besides Sam is much better known in Germany than either Bidenko or Virchis.
What's more Dimitrenko's purse would be much higher against the Turk!
Virchis=high risk,little reward,he for sure would test Dimitrenko's chin
Bidenko=high risk,little reward,totally wrong style for Dimitrenko

UKITAZ
07-04-2007, 12:19 PM
I agree with Oddo, i think Virchis would be a hard test and an unecessary risk this early in his career.

A fight with Sinal Sam would be an interesting one, Dimitrenko has the technical ability to beat him, but it would all depend how he would cope after getting clubbed a few times and being put under pressure. Would be a good test against a legit top 20 fighter.

Artani
07-04-2007, 06:53 PM
In the last interview he sad that want to fight for world title. Hard contender will broke him.

Odo
07-11-2007, 03:35 PM
I agree with Oddo, i think Virchis would be a hard test and an unecessary risk this early in his career.

A fight with Sinal Sam would be an interesting one, Dimitrenko has the technical ability to beat him, but it would all depend how he would cope after getting clubbed a few times and being put under pressure. Would be a good test against a legit top 20 fighter. Sam would be at the receiving end of Dimitrenko's jab for 12 long rounds. Sinan Samil Sam is tailor made for Dimitrenko IMO.

Toney
07-12-2007, 12:42 AM
I expect Dimitrenko to win a world title after 2-4 years. Universum is doing good job with him. If they would put him against a real tough opponent right now he would be destroyd, but I belive that after 2-3 years he will be ready! He has some great potential!

dupin
07-12-2007, 06:05 AM
I think Dimitrenko is an Universum project gone wrong. They probably thought with his big frame and amateurbackground he could be put in the Klitschko mold, and acted accordingly. But now after investing a huge amount of tv-time, energy and money in him he is not getting along the way they hoped he would do at all. So I guess right now they must be scratching their heads in the Universum office what to do next with him.

Artani
07-12-2007, 02:56 PM
I think Dimitrenko is an Universum project gone wrong. They probably thought with his big frame and amateurbackground he could be put in the Klitschko mold, and acted accordingly. But now after investing a huge amount of tv-time, energy and money in him he is not getting along the way they hoped he would do at all. So I guess right now they must be scratching their heads in the Universum office what to do next with him.

According to my friend who have good relationship with Universum box promotion team, if Dimitrenko wins in the saturday and Krasniqi also they will be ranked one and two in the new WBO rankings and will wait what Chagaev will do with Ibragimov. If Chagaev wins two titles he will left WBO belt and Krasniqi with Dimitrenko will fight for vakant WBO title .
This is the plan, what will happen we will see in the future.

Mendoza
07-12-2007, 03:24 PM
I think Dimitrenko is an Universum project gone wrong. They probably thought with his big frame and amateurbackground he could be put in the Klitschko mold, and acted accordingly. But now after investing a huge amount of tv-time, energy and money in him he is not getting along the way they hoped he would do at all. So I guess right now they must be scratching their heads in the Universum office what to do next with him.

While Dimitrenko is no Kltischko, I think he is better than Valuev, and Liahovich. When the time is right, Dimitrenko will get his title shot. He can out box Chagaev, Virchis and Ibragimov.

Artani
07-12-2007, 03:48 PM
While Dimitrenko is no Kltischko, I think he is better than Valuev, and Liahovich. When the time is right, Dimitrenko will get his title shot. He can out box Chagaev, Virchis and Ibragimov.

No way , Wlad , Virchis , Chagaev , Ibragimov , Lyakhovich are more better than him.

NBT
07-12-2007, 04:07 PM
According to my friend who have good relationship with Universum box promotion team, if Dimitrenko wins in the saturday and Krasniqi also they will be ranked one and two in the new WBO rankings and will wait what Chagaev will do with Ibragimov. If Chagaev wins two titles he will left WBO belt and Krasniqi with Dimitrenko will fight for vakant WBO title .
This is the plan, what will happen we will see in the future.

COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT (like most of your "inside inforamtion")

If Chagaev wins he will be elevated to SuperChamp status and a new "regular WBA champion" will be introduced. Would Chagaev drop the WBO belt he would also lose the WBA belt because he isn't a unified champ anymore. So if he would vacate the WBO belt he would have no belt at all, that's the WBA rules, that's what happend to Juan Manuel Marquez in a similar case when he was stipped of the IBF belt he held simultaniously with the WBA.

Artani
07-12-2007, 04:11 PM
COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT (like most of your "inside inforamtion")

If Chagaev wins he will be elevated to SuperChamp status and a new "regular WBA champion" will be introduced. Would Chagaev drop the WBO belt he would also lose the WBA belt because he isn't a unified champ anymore. So if he would vacate the WBO belt he would have no belt, that's the WBA rules, that's what happend to Juan Manuel Marquez in a similar case when he was stipped of the IBF belt he held simultaniously with the WBA.

Who is fucking says to answer in my posts . I told you some many time , i dont to watch your threads and you dont look in my ,:hi: .

Bostonmma
07-13-2007, 02:01 PM
He is facing Malcolm "Feet of Stone" Tann. I gave Malcolm that nickname as he is so damn slow. Sure he is 6'5 and looks impressive until he throws a few punches. Dimenritko will tear him a part, he really needs to step up.

Odo
07-13-2007, 02:22 PM
While Dimitrenko is no Kltischko, I think he is better than Valuev, and Liahovich. When the time is right, Dimitrenko will get his title shot. He can out box Chagaev, Virchis and Ibragimov.

You are right,mendoza!
Dimitrenko is able to outbox Virchis,and probably Ibragimov and Chagaev ,too.However,I wouldnt bet any money on him in a fight against those three abovementioned boxers.
Dimitrenko has an impressive jab,but he lacks firepower and fluid movements.He is too stiff for a fighter who doesnt have that much pop in his fists.Dont get me wrong,mate! Dimitrenko is a very decent fighter,but my gut feeling somehow keeps telling me that he lacks the special magic to be a real top dog.
He surely has a decent chance to beat your three mentioned boxer,but far more likely that Virchis knocks Dimitrenko out,that Chagaev wins by tko or ko,and that Ibragimov wins a close point decision against him.
Well,hopefully he proves me wrong by making more noise among his fellow heavies within the next 2-3 years!

Shpion
07-13-2007, 03:35 PM
He is facing Malcolm "Feet of Stone" Tann. I gave Malcolm that nickname as he is so damn slow. Sure he is 6'5 and looks impressive until he throws a few punches. Dimenritko will tear him a part, he really needs to step up.

I guess you missed the latest news then. After the "great" prospect Arreola beat another "great" prospect Tann he was put as #10 HW in the world by The Ring Magazine:patsch

Odo
07-13-2007, 03:51 PM
I guess you missed the latest news then. After the "great" prospect Arreola beat another "great" prospect Tann he was put as #10 HW in the world by The Ring Magazine:patsch

I guess Dimitrenko deserves to be ranked among the top 5 after a victory over Tann,eh!:yep

Shpion
07-13-2007, 04:02 PM
I guess Dimitrenko deserves to be ranked among the top 5 after a victory over Tann,eh!:yep

No kidding.

Bostonmma
07-13-2007, 04:16 PM
I guess you missed the latest news then. After the "great" prospect Arreola beat another "great" prospect Tann he was put as #10 HW in the world by The Ring Magazine:patsch

I knew that Nipples Arreola beat him. I have called him "Feet of Stone" ever since the Cliff Couser fight/disgrace

joeboxer
07-13-2007, 04:27 PM
I think Dimitrenko could develop into a champ, but has a long way to go. watch his fight with Batchelder. Batchelder constantly is succesful at backing Dimitrenko up and connecting to the body. Dimitrenko needs to work on his jab, and his infighting. He also seems a bit lazy in the ring at this point. the good thing is, once he improves on these things, he has all the tools to be succesful.

Bummy Davis
07-13-2007, 09:20 PM
Tann is a good test but Alex should stop him in order to be impressive

Bostonmma
07-14-2007, 07:06 PM
How did Alexander look?

NBT
07-14-2007, 07:28 PM
It was an ok performance. There were some slight improvements so maybe there's hope after all. Good movement, speed and technical skill. But he still needs to work on his power. For a guy his size he is still too featherfisted and has too thin arms.

Mendoza
07-14-2007, 08:49 PM
It was an ok performance. There were some slight improvements so maybe there's hope after all. Good movement, speed and technical skill. But he still needs to work on his power. For a guy his size he is still too featherfisted and has too thin arms.

Fighters get stronger as they age. Dimitrenko looks like a late bloomer to me. He still has some youthful looks. By age 25-26, bones harden and strength increases. Dimitreko will get a little stronger. I prefer to focus on what Dimitreko is and can be instead of what he never will be. ie a big puncher.

Dimtrenko is a super heavyweight with good skills and speed. Dimtrenko doesn’t need to win a world title his next fight. He is still developing. The Tann TKO win is a step in the right direction for Dimitrenko. One or two more fights like this then he will be ready for a world title fight.

Odo
07-14-2007, 09:14 PM
Tann is a good test but Alex should stop him in order to be impressive

He did stop him,and looked quite good in doing so! He has surely improved since his last fight against Batchelder.
Decent performance! Well done,Sacha!

Odo
07-14-2007, 09:23 PM
By the way anyone seen Dimitrenko's interview with German tv after his victorious encounter with Tann?

"I hope my next fight with Thompson comes off"
What on earth does that mean?

Toney
07-15-2007, 12:46 AM
He means he wants to fight Thompson!!:nut
That is a great idea! Dimitrenko get´s to fight a limited heavyweight, who just beat a big name heavybag (Krasquitti). They sure can do some business in Germany! :good Even if Universums fighter loses, still at the end Universum wins. Now they are gonna get a "big name" in Dimitrenkos record.

Farmboxer
07-15-2007, 02:09 AM
Dimitrenko was impressive against Tann.

Flurry
07-15-2007, 08:37 AM
He definitely looked grittier and fiercer in this one than he had in most of his fights before, looks as though he indeed has improved. Great idea to fight Thompson if it comes off, thats a fight that would tell us something, this tann guy did dissapoint me a bit after all the credit he was given before, for one his accuracy was poor. It would make sense if Kohl had Thompson signing over options for the Luan contract, thats his usual style, I wouldnt be surprised if thats what he did.

sean
07-15-2007, 11:10 AM
what is clear is that dimetrenko prefers and looks better fighting the taller heavys.

when tann did throw , dimetrenko actually watched the punches anbd countered instead of what he noermally does which is back off.

dimetrenko used his extra speed and jab to control the fight and then punch of the jab, while tann struggled to find a way in .

maybe kohl will get a bit of confidence and match dimetrenko with a few other big men, as the fight was quite entertaining even for allowing tann bending low and dimetrenko trying to do his best lewis impression and lean all over tann when he did so.

nice win and nice way he closed the fight with some nice power shots.

still got to be matched right though and it is imperative his sparring is competitive and against pressure fighters who teach dimetrenko what to do.

at range with his jab dimetrenko is quite fast and fluid .

Toney
07-16-2007, 10:00 AM
I just saw the fight and I am once again impressed. Dimitrenko will be a world champ after 2-3 years! I see him even dominating the whole division. He has great potential. He aint ready yet, but after 2-3 years he will be great!

By the way did you others think that the referee Paul Thomas favoured the hometown kid pretty good. Alexander got the do everything he wanted to do and the ref just complained to Malcolm all the time. I hate to see an unfair referee, althought nothing that bad happened in this fight.

Odo
07-16-2007, 01:49 PM
I just saw the fight and I am once again impressed. Dimitrenko will be a world champ after 2-3 years! I see him even dominating the whole division. He has great potential. He aint ready yet, but after 2-3 years he will be great!

By the way did you others think that the referee Paul Thomas favoured the hometown kid pretty good. Alexander got the do everything he wanted to do and the ref just complained to Malcolm all the time. I hate to see an unfair referee, althought nothing that bad happened in this fight.

I strongly disagree with you,toney!
I for my part think that the British ref did an excellent job!
Generally spoken,I prefer British refs to other european refs as they are not that keen to interrupt a fight for any minor illegal punch or action.
Tann 's head was a bigger threat to Dimitrenko than his fists that night.