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Haye
11-17-2007, 02:24 PM
Now, with me being 16 I didn't think anything of it when Khan signed with ******. But to you old vets out there - did your hearts sink knowing he had a future of fighting cans for WBU belts?

What was the reaction at the time when Britains best prospect (or so it seemed) for years signed with Frank 'WBU' ******.

Or did you see it as a good move where Khan would be developed nice and slow.

stake501
11-17-2007, 04:42 PM
i was most disappointed when they gave hium to harrison to train, they should have installed him into the calzaghe or ingle camp.

Boro chris
11-18-2007, 06:01 PM
The greatest thing Khan will achieve is making boxing a mainstream sport in Britain again. Boxing geeks like our goodselves may think he's a hype job and possibly a fraud but you can't deny he's having a positive effect at the moment. Boxing is enjoying as high a profile since the glory days of the early 90's!
As long as the England football team continue to act like a bunch of over paid twats boxing will hopefully continue to grow.

GazOC
11-18-2007, 06:57 PM
To sign with ****** is not a bad way to go if you're are a prospect, Khans been brought along pretty well so far IMHO. He's 21 (?), 14-0 and the Commonwealth champ, he is roughly where he should be at this stage in his career.

Napuis
11-18-2007, 09:16 PM
****** will be more interested in him fighting bums and notching more wins than for the good of Khan's career. Khan will be 27 before he fights for a world title, or he will split with ******. I bet he'll split with ****** soon.

GazOC
11-18-2007, 09:25 PM
Khan will be 27 before he fights for a world title, or he will split with ******.

Nah, don't exagerate.....26....;)

Khan will fight for a belt before he's 23...lets hope its not a BS title.

Haye
11-19-2007, 05:15 AM
To sign with ****** is not a bad way to go if you're are a prospect, Khans been brought along pretty well so far IMHO. He's 21 (?), 14-0 and the Commonwealth champ, he is roughly where he should be at this stage in his career.

True, but its getting your career going when you are in your late 20's and prime thats difficult with ******.

robpalmer135
11-19-2007, 06:57 AM
Name a fighter thats done more in 14 fights in british boxing history!

elle
11-19-2007, 07:28 AM
Name a fighter thats done more in 14 fights in british boxing history!


Didn't Prince Naseem Hamed win the EBU European Title in his 12th fight?

Then the WBC International Title in his 14th fight?

Think he was only 20 years old.

robpalmer135
11-19-2007, 07:33 AM
Ok Prince Nas who was the one of the biggest punchers pound for pound in history, name another.

Oh and who was his promoter? ****** is a wanker but he is the best bet for any british boxer starting out. They will get the most exposure, fight on the biggest cards. Look how long its taken Hennasy to get Witter and Froch world title shots, and Maloney for Haye.

Khan is gonna be top 5 p4p when hes older trust me.

elle
11-19-2007, 08:22 AM
Ok Prince Nas who was the one of the biggest punchers pound for pound in history, name another.

Oh and who was his promoter? ****** is a wanker but he is the best bet for any british boxer starting out. They will get the most exposure, fight on the biggest cards. Look how long its taken Hennasy to get Witter and Froch world title shots, and Maloney for Haye.

Khan is gonna be top 5 p4p when hes older trust me.



I named you one and now another? Whats this, name this tune? :smile

Yes Prince Nas was with ****** initially .... think Hatton was also but leaving ****** hasn't done his career any harm.

******'s fighters do tend to get a lot of exposure but in Khan's case I tend to feel he has been over exposed and that has added to some of the criticism he gets. Also I feel the pace Khan is coming along is more down to ITV and Khans team than ******. I don't think its any coincidence that Khan was put in with Limond directly after the widespread criticism the Steffy Bull fight attracted. Do you think Khan would be facing Earl next if it was just down to ******? I suspect not.

As for Hennessy and Maloney - the latter in particular always tends to come up with packed bills full of competitive fights. On the other hand, ****** tends to promise far more than he delivers on his bills usually.

You mention about how long it has taken Maloney to come up with Title shots for Haye - I know you are a big fan of Haye but surely this is preferable to him being signed by ****** and his career managed like Maccarinelli is currently?

Doyley10
11-19-2007, 09:05 AM
It might sound cynical, but pro boxers are there to make money, and ****** does that better than other promoters. Once Khan has a million quid in the bank he can start to worry about risk taking and the pursuit of glory. For someone of Khan's exposure that shouldn't be too far away...

GazOC
11-19-2007, 09:35 AM
True, but its getting your career going when you are in your late 20's and prime thats difficult with ******.

If Khan keeps winning he'll have the promotional leverage to be able to do what the hell he likes in a few years. If he's got any sense he'll go self managed and retain a few advisors.

robpalmer135
11-19-2007, 10:12 AM
I named you one and now another? Whats this, name this tune? :smile

Yes Prince Nas was with ****** initially .... think Hatton was also but leaving ****** hasn't done his career any harm.

******'s fighters do tend to get a lot of exposure but in Khan's case I tend to feel he has been over exposed and that has added to some of the criticism he gets. Also I feel the pace Khan is coming along is more down to ITV and Khans team than ******. I don't think its any coincidence that Khan was put in with Limond directly after the widespread criticism the Steffy Bull fight attracted. Do you think Khan would be facing Earl next if it was just down to ******? I suspect not.

As for Hennessy and Maloney - the latter in particular always tends to come up with packed bills full of competitive fights. On the other hand, ****** tends to promise far more than he delivers on his bills usually.

You mention about how long it has taken Maloney to come up with Title shots for Haye - I know you are a big fan of Haye but surely this is preferable to him being signed by ****** and his career managed like Maccarinelli is currently?


yeh your spot on there in most respects, i jst get annoyed with people slagging of Khan, he is the biggest prospect in pro boxing worldwide, who his age is ahead of him, how many other 18 year olds have got to olympic finals?

robpalmer135
11-19-2007, 10:13 AM
It might sound cynical, but pro boxers are there to make money, and ****** does that better than other promoters. Once Khan has a million quid in the bank he can start to worry about risk taking and the pursuit of glory. For someone of Khan's exposure that shouldn't be too far away...

he has alot more than a million already mate trust me on that.

elle
11-19-2007, 10:34 AM
yeh your spot on there in most respects, i jst get annoyed with people slagging of Khan, he is the biggest prospect in pro boxing worldwide, who his age is ahead of him, how many other 18 year olds have got to olympic finals?


I know you are a Khan fan but there is such a thing as constructive criticism.

He did superbly at the Olympics - especially as he was only 17!

Steve Fox
11-19-2007, 11:43 AM
Name a fighter thats done more in 14 fights in british boxing history!Lewis was EBU after 14.

"He's gone!"
11-19-2007, 12:05 PM
I think Khans being pushed too fast for ****** liking. Thought he be up to around 20 wins before fighting anyone remotely dangerous. Even fighting at domestic level the attention Khan gets can only be ggod for British boxing.

If ITV had kept the rights to calzaghe's fights sure British Boxing would be even bigger, but instead this weekend we had darts, great!

David UK
11-21-2007, 10:53 AM
I wasn't pleased when I heard he'd signed for ******, but wasn't surprised either. I also predicted right at the outset that there would, at some stage, be conflict between the ambitious Khans and the ultra cautious ******. I think the original contract isn't an especially long one,so Khan could leave at the end of the term if he felt he wasn't getting the fights he wanted.

NB Harrison is a poor choice as trainer. With the possible exception of Willie Limond, Amir Khan would have be able to beat all his pro opponents so far even as a 17yo amateur. I don't believe harrison has brought him along very much at all

faisal
11-21-2007, 02:58 PM
I wasn't pleased when I heard he'd signed for ******, but wasn't surprised either. I also predicted right at the outset that there would, at some stage, be conflict between the ambitious Khans and the ultra cautious ******. I think the original contract isn't an especially long one,so Khan could leave at the end of the term if he felt he wasn't getting the fights he wanted.

NB Harrison is a poor choice as trainer. With the possible exception of Willie Limond, Amir Khan would have be able to beat all his pro opponents so far even as a 17yo amateur. I don't believe harrison has brought him along very much at all
khan has an ameture like style, if he continues to fight like an ameture he wont move beyond domestic level, i dont understand hy he chose harrison either, may be enzo gym is a little too far away but trainers like billy graham and ingle could have easily honed his skills

Polymath
11-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Khan has to at least get a new trainor; sorry but the standard of coaching in the UK is generally appalling, especially re. fighters who stick with the bloke who's trained them since they were 11 out of loyalty/naivety.

China_hand_Joe
11-21-2007, 03:12 PM
Khan is gonna be top 5 p4p when hes older trust me.

Absolutely no chance whatsoever.

rooq
11-21-2007, 03:26 PM
harrison also trains jamie moore so he can't be that bad can he?

David UK
11-21-2007, 03:51 PM
Khan has to at least get a new trainor; sorry but the standard of coaching in the UK is generally appalling, especially re. fighters who stick with the bloke who's trained them since they were 11 out of loyalty/naivety.

The only trainers I really rate are Enzo C and Brendan Ingle. Not sure about Billy Graham. he may be very good or he may just have got lucky with Hatton. As he only trains two other fighters(neither of whom have set the world alight) it's difficult to tell. All the others range from average to awful