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Danny
11-19-2007, 05:32 PM
If Hatton defeats Mayweather, where would you personally rank the victory in comparison with the other great victories by a british boxer?
There have been some memorable one over the years in Turpin-Robinson, Buchanan-Laguna, McGuigan-Pedroza, Conteh-Ahumada, Honeyghan-Curry, etc, etc.
GazOC
11-19-2007, 07:11 PM
Not up there with Turpin-Robinson or Honey-Curry but close to the latter. Certainly a better win than the others in that list....
hitman_hatton1
11-19-2007, 07:13 PM
top 3 easy.
mayweather is the p4p no1 ffs.
not just a good world champion but a great one.
GazOC
11-19-2007, 07:17 PM
Post War top 3 is probably fair...
Betty Swollocks
11-19-2007, 11:59 PM
Hatton at 2/1 is nothing like as big an outsider as say Honeyghan was over Curry, but it would probably be a bigger win.....Curry was perhaps rated top p4p by some at that time...but he was not establisehed in that position as Mayweather is. As things tuned out Curry was flawed and with a dodgy chin.
I say top 5 at least.
brown bomber
11-20-2007, 06:30 AM
Hatton beating mayweather is right behind Turpin Vs Robinson- take those rose tinted glasses off :-)
The Kurgan
11-20-2007, 09:21 AM
Hatton beating mayweather is right behind Turpin Vs Robinson- take those rose tinted glasses off :-)
I agree. While Honeygan-Curry was a big surprise, I think we should all be able to agree that Mayweather is a greater boxer than Donald Curry.
Smith
11-20-2007, 10:25 AM
I think it would rank alongside Benn-McClellan in terms of, absolutely no-one gave the former a chance.
TBooze
11-20-2007, 06:44 PM
I think it would rank alongside Benn-McClellan in terms of, absolutely no-one gave the former a chance.
McClellan was no Mayweather; so if Hatton wins...;)
Personally I would put this up with Turpin/RobinsonI, if Ricky wins.
hitman_hatton1
11-20-2007, 06:52 PM
McClellan was no Mayweather; so if Hatton wins...;)
Personally I would put this up with Turpin/RobinsonI, if Ricky wins.
mayweather is just a box of tricks compared with gerald though.
mcclellan could punch like a bugger.
mayweather is a fairy compared to g-man. :yep
TBooze
11-20-2007, 07:17 PM
mayweather is just a box of tricks compared with gerald though.
mcclellan could punch like a bugger.
mayweather is a fairy compared to g-man. :yep
McClellan was very one dimensional and if you were good enough to still be in the bout after six rounds, you beat him. Mayweather is a grade one arse hole, no doubt, but there is also no doubting his phenomenal talent.
GazOC
11-20-2007, 08:30 PM
I'm not picking this after the event, I won a lot of money on Benn at 5/2. The Yanks thought it was a sure thing but if you step up in weight to challenge a world champ who's a proven puncher then you are usually up against it.
The one I didn't see coming was Honey-Curry, its easy to forget but at the time people were saying Curry was good enough to skip 154 and step up to 160 and beat Hagler, he was really held in that high a regard.
brown bomber
11-21-2007, 06:11 AM
I'm not picking this after the event, I won a lot of money on Benn at 5/2. The Yanks thought it was a sure thing but if you step up in weight to challenge a world champ who's a proven puncher then you are usually up against it.
The one I didn't see coming was Honey-Curry, its easy to forget but at the time people were saying Curry was good enough to skip 154 and step up to 160 and beat Hagler, he was really held in that high a regard. Curry was a beautiful boxer wasn't he but in hindsight so flawed. Still love watching him though.... Norris-Curry was a brilliant little fight.
brown bomber
11-21-2007, 06:13 AM
I think it is actually higher than Turpin/Robinson.
Because Robinson fought a lot those days and was bound to have the odd off night, didnt Sugar robinson lose to turpin during a tour of Europe when he was fightin every couple of weeks? Correct me if wrong, nowadays the ultimate preperation is used where athletes are at their finest I don't agree that beating Mayweather is better then beating Robinson on any night- however think your point is an excellent one.
The Lads
11-21-2007, 06:15 AM
Same for Turpin though. Also, if you looked at the odds for the two fights I think Turpins was a bigger upset. But then, are we talking upsets or achievments?
UKFightFan
11-21-2007, 06:57 AM
Although Floyd is the P4P#1, Hatton is also highly regarded. Therefore it would be a great victory for him but he is not a complete no hoper so it can't be too high up the list. If it were Witter or Rees facing Floyd and they won then the magnitude of the victory would be higher.
brown bomber
11-21-2007, 07:12 AM
Although Floyd is the P4P#1, Hatton is also highly regarded. Therefore it would be a great victory for him but he is not a complete no hoper so it can't be too high up the list. If it were Witter or Rees facing Floyd and they won then the magnitude of the victory would be higher. ??? The magnitude of the victory would be greater if Rees or Witter won? Hatton is probably the Uk's most popular boxer how could the magnitude of victory be any greater if a relative unknown beats Mayweather. I think your confusing the quality of the victory with the odds of an upset. Thats not what we're talking about.
UKFightFan
11-21-2007, 09:05 AM
??? The magnitude of the victory would be greater if Rees or Witter won? Hatton is probably the Uk's most popular boxer how could the magnitude of victory be any greater if a relative unknown beats Mayweather. I think your confusing the quality of the victory with the odds of an upset. Thats not what we're talking about.
I think you are the one that is confused.
When summing up the magnitude of a victory you do not look at how popular someone is. This is not a popularity contest. Instead you have to look at the relative skills of each fighter. The skill gap between Hatton and Mayweather is not that large if we are to believe that Hatton is the best fighter at 147. The gap between Mayweather and the other two fighters I originally named is unquestionably a lot larger so the magnitude on the global boxing world would be larger because the upset would be greater.
brown bomber
11-21-2007, 09:35 AM
The upset would be greater but the magnitude wouldn't be.... If Sharmba Mitchell had of upset Mayweather would that result have reverberated around boxing for a substantial amount of time? The December 8th match is between 2 top class p4p entrants therefore the profile of the match is greater then any other match in boxing therefore the magnitude of 'any' result coming from this contest is more significant then any upset between a top p4p and someone from lower leagues. IMO.
brown bomber
11-21-2007, 09:35 AM
And yes I am now confused lol :-)
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