What kind of PPV figures would PBF get if fighting in UK...????

[Taffyy]

A big argument on here is the gate v PPV thing.
What kind of figures could Floyd or Hopkins expect if the fight was fought in the UK with say 60000 fans in but was aired at primetime US.....?????
Serious question here so no nobhead replies thanks...:good

[ThePlugInBabies]

who the fuck cares? stop trying to stir up nationalistic bullshit.

[Govanmauler]

I dont get the question the gate would of course be much larger in the UK , but are you suggesting that if the fight took place in the UK but at US time the PPV would be lower ? Why ? Are you suggesting that despite the fight being shown at US time people wouldn't buy it as it came form the UK ??? I refuse to beleive that, I've been to the states loads of times and depite some of the poster here trying to prove Americans are w*nks I know that not to be true.

If I'm missing the point I'm sorry but I really dont get this one ! :think

[Carlos Primera]

A big argument on here is the gate v PPV thing.
What kind of figures could Floyd or Hopkins expect if the fight was fought in the UK with say 60000 fans in but was aired at primetime US.....?????
Serious question here so no nobhead replies thanks...:good
if it was held in the uk, but at the same time shown ppv in the US it would probably make more. but i dont think floyd would be as game for that unless he took more of the purse. HBO probably would do it if the production cost, manpower, materiel etc...were more or less the same as im the states.

[thewoo]

This has already been explained a millions times. Fights held in Vegas do not depend on the gate for their money (although the tickets do typically cost a lot and they make decent money from them), they depend on the site paid by the casino. See the Casino figures if 17,000 people fly into town to see a fight they are not coming for just 4 hours to see the card and then leaving. These people will probably stay for at least a weekend and they will need a place to stay and they will need shit to do while they are not at the fight.

They will spend money eating, watching other shows, gettin massages and most importantly they will lose their balls gambling. The Casino recognizes this and thus puts up a large site fee to have the fight at their casino which makes up for the smaller gate. Trust me, we have large stadiums in the states too, if it made sense to have more people pay at the gate, that's what would happen more often.

[ThePlugInBabies]

That's one nobhead reply right off the bat. :lol:

:huh

[robpalmer135]

Calzaghe vs Kessler got 300,000 new subscriptions for the channel that was showing it.

I reckon 10,000 max! less for Hopkins. It all depends who there fighting.

Tyson vs Holyfield 1 and 2 i am pretty sure the only PPV fights in britain not to involve a british fighter. De La Hoya vs Mayweather was free!

[toffeejack]

I think it's pretty certain they would sell 80,000 tickets at Wembley over here but I'm glad they're fighting in Vegas to be honest. It has that extra glamour and tradition that you don't really get over here.

[ThePlugInBabies]

:deal

he fucking deserved it, he has hidden motives :twisted:

[surreal deal]

Serious question here so no nobhead replies thanks...:good

ohhhh!:twisted::(:|

[Brickhaus]

The US fighter would get taxed at such a higher rate if the fight was in the UK that it still wouldn't be worth it. That's the REAL underlying reason why most of the bigger US fighters won't go there to fight.

[Taffyy]

who the fuck cares? stop trying to stir up nationalistic bullshit.
You obviously didnt read the part about nobheads you silly cunt....!!!
Its a serious question because In the situation I mentioned surely theres even more money...:roll:
What the fuck are you talking about "hidden motives" ????????
There are some serious fucking tools on here & Plug your one of the best ..... Seriously explain what the fuck your talking about & why I "fucking deserved" it you fuckin idiot..

[Taffyy]

if it was held in the uk, but at the same time shown ppv in the US it would probably make more. but i dont think floyd would be as game for that unless he took more of the purse. HBO probably would do it if the production cost, manpower, materiel etc...were more or less the same as im the states.
Fair enough & I suppose Floyd is the Champ at the end of the day....
Dont you think though that the casino venues have kind of spoiled it for the average fan with there leanings toward "high rollers"...????
I mean I'd rather see the fight in some of the big "football" stadiums over there .... ????

[thewoo]

Fair enough & I suppose Floyd is the Champ at the end of the day....
Dont you think though that the casino venues have kind of spoiled it for the average fan with there leanings toward "high rollers"...????
I mean I'd rather see the fight in some of the big "football" stadiums over there .... ????

You know I am not sure that boxing is popular enough over here to fill those places up unless the tickets were offered at near giveaway prices.

[ThePlugInBabies]

You obviously didnt read the part about nobheads you silly cunt....!!!
Its a serious question because In the situation I mentioned surely theres even more money...:roll:
What the fuck are you talking about "hidden motives" ????????
There are some serious fucking tools on here & Plug your one of the best ..... Seriously explain what the fuck your talking about & why I "fucking deserved" it you fuckin idiot..

pretty standard response from you, insult after insult after insult.

no, there is not more money in it, happy?

[Taffyy]

Plug.....I apologise but it was a genuine question in the first place.
Im an irate type of fella who acts first & thinks later & if I come across as a nationlist trouble maker then again I apologise but I just get riled by Terds like unbeatablefloyd etc... constantly knocking British fighters & Britain in general....................rant over.

[Taffyy]

You know I am not sure that boxing is popular enough over here to fill those places up unless the tickets were offered at near giveaway prices.
I know what you mean woo , I was brought up on american boxing & you couldnt go a week over here without some kind of big fight from the US being talked about or shown , I mean when the Fab 4 were at it(not the beatles:lol: ) American boxing was untouchable , I just get the impression that of late the soul seems to have gone out of the big american fight nights something that in my opinion began with the demise of Tyson.....:?. Maybe the lack of real American input at HW, , the traditional glamour division, at world level which has always been owned by americans in the past has something to do with it..........I mean the most part time fight fans used to know who the HW champ of the world was & does the fact that its no longer an American mean that all but the most serious of boxing fans in America dont care....???
Im not having a pop with this question Im just saying what I see....;)

[Govanmauler]

This has already been explained a millions times. Fights held in Vegas do not depend on the gate for their money (although the tickets do typically cost a lot and they make decent money from them), they depend on the site paid by the casino. See the Casino figures if 17,000 people fly into town to see a fight they are not coming for just 4 hours to see the card and then leaving. These people will probably stay for at least a weekend and they will need a place to stay and they will need shit to do while they are not at the fight.

They will spend money eating, watching other shows, gettin massages and most importantly they will lose their balls gambling. The Casino recognizes this and thus puts up a large site fee to have the fight at their casino which makes up for the smaller gate. Trust me, we have large stadiums in the states too, if it made sense to have more people pay at the gate, that's what would happen more often.

I don't doubt you are correct but what kind of money do the casinoes put up ? It must be loads if it still makes sense to turn away 35000(ish) people !

say 50 bucks a ticket minimum thats 17.5 million ! !

[BigReg]

I don't doubt you are correct but what kind of money do the casinoes put up ? It must be loads if it still makes sense to turn away 35000(ish) people !

say 50 bucks a ticket minimum thats 17.5 million ! !

Sorry, but no European boxing event is doing a live gate of $17.5 million. The record is $19 million(De La Hoya/Mayweather in the states), Number 2 is $16 million held by Lews/Tyson(also in the states). The Kessler/Calzaghe match did around $8 maybe $9 million

[BigReg]

if it was held in the uk, but at the same time shown ppv in the US it would probably make more. but i dont think floyd would be as game for that unless he took more of the purse. HBO probably would do it if the production cost, manpower, materiel etc...were more or less the same as im the states.

No it wouldn't. Even with a much smaller crowd, this fight will can generate a better live gate in the U.S than over in the U.K. Also, with normal PPV's in the main event starts at between 11:00 P.M and 11:30 P.M EST, that's between 4:00 AM and 4:30 AM in the UK. This could certainly comprimise the live gate figures

[rydersonthestorm]

Sorry mate but your pretty wrong about the calzaghe gate, it was estimated at between 8 and 9 million pounds not dollars.

[BigReg]

Sorry mate but your pretty wrong about the calzaghe gate, it was estimated at between 8 and 9 million pounds not dollars.

$8 or $9 million pounds is about $16 -$18 million, that would be a record. I've never anything about this, I'll check up on it though.

[Govanmauler]

Thats what i figured I mean i could beleive a casino would put up 16-18 million but it seems a lot !

[rydersonthestorm]

Put it this way the cheapest ticket for calzaghe kessler was £50 or $100 dollars and the stadium had 50,000 plus their.

[Govanmauler]

:lol: Sorry, but no European boxing event is doing a live gate of $17.5 million. The record is $19 million(De La Hoya/Mayweather in the states), Number 2 is $16 million held by Lews/Tyson(also in the states). The Kessler/Calzaghe match did around $8 maybe $9 million


Meant to sayt no need to be quite so snipey either Big Reg " No European boxing event" You mean the undisputed Super Middleweigth championship of the world ? :bbb A far more exciting fight than Mayweather De la Hoya and a far more exciting and relevant fight than Lewis Tyson.

Here i was earlier on in that thread defending my American cousin and here I am regretting it already :lol:

[BigReg]

Put it this way the cheapest ticket for calzaghe kessler was £50 or $100 dollars and the stadium had 50,000 plus their.

Here is an article that states estimated live gate figures for if 70,000 tickets were sold at Millenium stadium for a proposed match between Taylor and Calzaghe(before Talyor was KO'D).

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[BigReg]

:lol:


Meant to sayt no need to be quite so snipey either Big Reg " No European boxing event" You mean the undisputed Super Middleweigth championship of the world ? :bbb A far more exciting fight than Mayweather De la Hoya and a far more exciting and relevant fight than Lewis Tyson.

Here i was earlier on in that thread defending my American cousin and here I am regretting it already :lol:

Excitement or relevency don't neccesarily add up to a higher gate. I'm not trying to put European boxing down, I'm just stating the facts.

[Govanmauler]

Excitement or relevency don't neccesarily add up to a higher gate. I'm not trying to put European boxing down, I'm just stating the facts.

No worries Big Reg !

[Middleweight]

Put it this way the cheapest ticket for calzaghe kessler was £50 or $100 dollars and the stadium had 50,000 plus their. 50k tickets at $100 would make $5 million. 16 million seems a bit high...

[ThePlugInBabies]

That would make be 5 million US dollars.. 50k tickets at 100 dollars. 16 million seems a bit high...

you misunderstand, not all 50k tickets cost $100, they were simply the cheapest on offer. they went from $100 up to $4000.