Calzaghe and Woods negotiations under way [Archive]

"He's gone!"

11-20-2007, 10:38 AM

The BBC web site is running the headline "IBF Light-heavy weight champion Clinton Woods is negotiating to fight Joe Calzaghe." There's no attached story but a promise of "more soon."

This fight could give calzaghe a title and set up hopkins a a retirement fight. Less dangerous than Dawson and it's gonna get less US interest if it goes ahead.

BewareofDawg

11-20-2007, 10:40 AM

Calzaghe is ducking Hopkins.

Dorfmeister

11-20-2007, 10:41 AM

I should be given credit for predicting this would happen. Anyone?

Rumsfeld

11-20-2007, 10:41 AM

Calzaghe is ducking Hopkins.

:nod

ThePlugInBabies

11-20-2007, 10:44 AM

joe has already mentally beaten b-hop, he is now 45-0.

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Kostya Zoo

11-20-2007, 10:45 AM

joe has already mentally beaten b-hop, he is now 45-0.

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B Hop let me down

djm

11-20-2007, 10:46 AM

After hearing PBF trumpet the "if it don't make dollars, it don't make sense" mantra ad nauseum, does it occur to anyone that an all-UK fight might do better than a Hopkins fight for Joe? I'm not really a fan of his, but it is possible this is partially a financial decision. It's not like Hopkins-Wright was a mega-fight.

ThePlugInBabies

11-20-2007, 10:47 AM

B Hop let me down

...and that $16mil shit? pleeeeeeease. floyd ain't even getting that for the hatton fight, are people trying to suggest b-hop-joe will make more than hatton-floyd?

Kostya Zoo

11-20-2007, 10:49 AM

...and that $16mil shit? pleeeeeeease. floyd ain't even getting that for the hatton fight, are people trying to suggest b-hop-joe will make more than hatton-floyd?

I dont even know where that came from. I definitely haven't found a reliable source that confirms it.

"He's gone!"

11-20-2007, 10:50 AM

Hopkins mentioned the yankee stadium as a venue, would it get filled? Don't know much about Hopkins fan base and i'm not sure you'd get as many Calzaghe fans crossing the atlantic as Hatton gets.

Kostya Zoo

11-20-2007, 10:52 AM

Hopkins mentioned the yankee stadium as a venue, would it get filled? Don't know much about Hopkins fan base and i'm not sure you'd get as many Calzaghe fans crossing the atlantic as Hatton gets.

I know I'd come up from Philly. But I don't know anybody else who would

Honestly, the fight might not even sell out Boardwalk Hall, nevermind Yankee Stadium. I'm almost sure Hops-Tarver didn't sell out. And Tarver was, for a while, a way bigger name in the USA than Calzaghe ever has been.

ThePlugInBabies

11-20-2007, 11:07 AM

This is HORRIBLE fucking news!

Calzaghe should ONLY be taking to Hopkins, RJJ, or the Pavlik-Taylor II winner...

RJJ? :lol:

Bodysnatcher

11-20-2007, 11:08 AM

I can't bear the thought of this fight.

Calzaghe should fight Hopkins in the States even if it doesn't make him as much money as the Woods fight in (probably) Cardiff.

ThePlugInBabies

11-20-2007, 11:09 AM

After the US$16 offer from GBP what excuse will Falzaghe have of fighting Clitoris

what $16mil offer? mayweather is making less for fighting hatton? you think calzaghe-hopkins will rake in more money than hatton-mayweather? are you that fucking stupid?

Spitfire7

11-20-2007, 11:12 AM

This is HORRIBLE fucking news!

Calzaghe should ONLY be taking to Hopkins, RJJ, or the Pavlik-Taylor II winner...

...or Chad Dawson.

Woods should fight Glen Johnson instead (for the nth time:yep until a clear and dominating winner is established).

"He's gone!"

11-20-2007, 11:13 AM

Joe has mentioned only boxing for a year more, which is only one or two more fights. This fight would make him a champ at LH then he could face the champ. Can't see fights with Pavlik/Taylor being made as he's moving up. Would people actaully be happy with a RJJ fight?

thewoo

11-20-2007, 11:14 AM

Hopkins mentioned the yankee stadium as a venue, would it get filled? Don't know much about Hopkins fan base and i'm not sure you'd get as many Calzaghe fans crossing the atlantic as Hatton gets.

Yankees stadium seats about 60,000 for a basball game. I imagine for boxig with the ring being so much smaller and seating on the field it would be close to 65-70K. And I can tell you one thing. IN order to fill that up they would need to offer seats at $10 and comp flights from the UK

ThePlugInBabies

11-20-2007, 11:15 AM

So you admit the guy is not that great after all-how come no one wants to watch him fight apart from his grandmother

what i am saying is, is that the 16mil offer is bullshit. if you really think they're offering joe that amount to come to america and fight hopkins then you're a bigger idiot than i thought.

oh, and 50,000 came to see him fight kessler, not bad huh :hey

at least people don't walk out of his fights, did you see FM-baldomir?

Pimp C

11-20-2007, 11:16 AM

I have no interest in this fight. I want Calzaghe-Hopkins or Calzaghe-Dawson.

Bodysnatcher

11-20-2007, 11:22 AM

Thing is, Frank ****** knows he can pack 50,000 into the Millenium Stadium by putting him up against anyone willing to fight there, eg, Manfredo.

Calzaghe's star is high, Woods won't be a tough negotiator, Woods is a Light Heavyweight Champion and they were going to fight before, until Joe's fragile hands mucked it up.

Unfortunately, it's a fight that makes a lot of sense from a financial perspective.

Most American fight fans will mock Calzaghe for taking it, though, and I can't say they'll be totally wrong.

Doesn't seem like a legacy fight to me, although becoming a two weight champion is nothing to be sniffed at.

C Money

11-20-2007, 11:27 AM

Cal vs Woods would have to be a risk/reward/timing/stay busy option setting up a larger fight.

Woods while being a decent journeyman isnt on Calzaghes level. A worthy LHW fight but not THE TYPE of fight Calzaghe should be in right now, UNLESS it's part of a larger plan.

yesihavearm

11-20-2007, 11:47 AM

what $16mil offer? mayweather is making less for fighting hatton? you think calzaghe-hopkins will rake in more money than hatton-mayweather? are you that fucking stupid?

The 16million offer was a buyout offer to Calzaghe and ****** so that GBP would have sole promotion rights over Calzaghe essentially buying him from ******. 16million to Joe with an additional 2mill to ******.

Who knows the rest of the details

ThePlugInBabies

11-20-2007, 11:49 AM

The 16million offer was a buyout offer to Calzaghe and ****** so that GBP would have sole promotion rights over Calzaghe essentially buying him from ******. 16million to Joe with an additional 2mill to ******.

Who knows the rest of the details

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insanity.

"He's gone!"

11-20-2007, 12:03 PM

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robpalmer135

11-20-2007, 12:16 PM

Hopkins is a bigger name in Sheffield than Clinton Woods LOL. Seriously Calzaghe wont except anyone but Hopkins, Jones Jnr or Pavlik Taylor Winner

Words

12-23-2007, 05:09 PM

Boro chris

12-23-2007, 05:34 PM

Why is everyone saying this fight is shit? Clinton Woods is a good fighter, he's not a journeyman he's the light-heavyweight champion ffs!

Infact, I reckon Woods might give Calzaghe a better fight than Hopkins, purely because Woods is capable of matching Calzaghe's workrate, something that Hopkins would never have been able to do in his prime 10 years, let alone aged 43.

The only thing Hopkins offers in this fight is a name, and the worst thing is most people here KNOW that and STILL want him to fight b-Hop.

Apparently the Jones fight entirely summerises the entirety of Clinton Woods career.
Also do any Hopkins fans really want their man to fight Calzaghe at this stage of his career? Surely he's too old now and will only get a kicking.

TFFP

12-23-2007, 06:28 PM

You cats are crazy!

Work rate, work rate, work rate is all you can say.
Slap, slap, slap, is all Joe can do.
If HOP slapped like a woman, he could throw 40-50 punches a round also.

When Calfaghe gets in the ring with an A-level elite we'll see how well he maintains this slapping work rate. :yep
Yes because Hopkins hits hard doesn't he? The last person he knocked out was a welterweight, 3 years ago

Calzaghe hasn't hit hard since he hurt his hand, but still enough to hurt Kessler and Lacy

TFFP

12-23-2007, 06:37 PM

The operative word in your example was "hurt" which is not a KNOCK OUT, or even a TKO.
Yes, a slap can sting, but it won't bother HOPKINS as much as those accurate and SOLID punches are gonna hurt Calfaghe. :yep

Hopkins is neither a Kessler or a Lacy.
And the operative word there is "solid", and even in capitals it doesn't add any weight to your argument

Hopkins solid punches havn't looked like knocking a fighter out, since 3 years ago against a welter weight

So realistically, his punches are going to do nothing more than hurt a strong SMW, if he even bothers to throw any. His prime weapon is his head, to be honest

dodong

12-23-2007, 09:55 PM

Why does some people seems so surprised?

RafaelGonzal

12-23-2007, 11:24 PM

I savor the moment when this guy finally gets exposed, but he is a slippery fuck and always has been.

mstar

12-24-2007, 09:17 AM

bhop is under estimating joe and he knows it!! it be a great fight but JC to win UD. I really do not think bhop can apply any tactics which joe hasn't seen, joe is so adaptable in the ring. Also in the welsh papers joe has stated he tends to puch within himself sometimes due to his injury to his hand so those knockout punches in the past are not his main weapen these days.

bhops head is his main weapon to upset his apponents game so they expose themselves, and he willl try to do this again the racist b%%%%%%

uppa kut

01-19-2008, 09:30 AM

Damn!!! Make the fight in the uk and sellout a 70,000 seat arena. Make the fight in the US and sellout a 15,000 seat casino. Seems simple to me!!

Calzaghe has a huge fanbase in his country. Hopkins, not so much.

Grant1

01-19-2008, 09:33 AM

HolgerD

01-19-2008, 09:48 AM

British people are level headed folks. People with good common sense. That's why we are going to see Calzaghe-Woods instead of Calzaghe vs. Old Bag Hopkins. Bring it on!:good

box_fan_uk

01-19-2008, 09:57 AM

Apparently the Jones fight entirely summerises the entirety of Clinton Woods career.
Also do any Hopkins fans really want their man to fight Calzaghe at this stage of his career? Surely he's too old now and will only get a kicking.

woods would beat roy in rematch now,

and woods has a great chance against calzaghe

a really really good chance, will not be the walkover people are saying

in fact i am going to say Clinton Woods will win

Imperial1

01-19-2008, 09:59 AM

Calzaghe is a bitch if he goes through with this fight ..All the yrs he's been calling Hops out he finally gets him to commit and he wants to fight Woods ?What a byatch move !!

cableguy

01-19-2008, 10:02 AM

Calzaghe is a bitch if he goes through with this fight ..All the yrs he's been calling Hops out he finally gets him to commit and he wants to fight Woods ?What a byatch move !!

Check the date of the original post....it was made 2 months ago. Thus Calzaghe/Hopkins has ben signed since!

Steve Fox

01-19-2008, 10:28 AM

Hopkins is scared and I dare say Woods will turn out to be scared. Howard Eastman on the other hand might not be scared, maybe Joe should try him.

Toopretty

01-19-2008, 10:35 AM

Nobody is fucking scared of Calslappy. He aint nobody. He aint shit. HE IS BACKING OUT. THAT ARTICLE POSTED IS FROM FUCKING NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. Look at the dates assholes. Bhop is fighting Calzaghe. The only recent news is that it is going to be non ppv.

Bomber

01-19-2008, 11:57 AM

Hahaha the Internet warriors are out today, aint they. Apparantly a undefeated fighter with very good skills is a "Byatch". Some people really need a long hard chat with their Daddy.

scott is cool

01-19-2008, 12:17 PM

Calzaghe should fight Hopkins first in the USA. Then fight Woods in Cardiff, then retire. Hopefully he could do that by the end of 2008, and who knows he may even fight again in early 2009.

NFLBound

01-19-2008, 12:30 PM

what the hell....dont tell me that Joe is backing dow from Hopkins.

safe_pa

01-19-2008, 01:24 PM

Either some people can't read or they're just plain fucking stupid. This thread was started in NOVEMBER 2007. Before the contract details were agreed between Hops and Calzaghe. Learn to read.

HolgerD

01-20-2008, 09:27 AM

Either some people can't read or they're just plain fucking stupid. This thread was started in NOVEMBER 2007. Before the contract details were agreed between Hops and Calzaghe. Learn to read.

Come on! Where is your humor? Can't we be allowed just a little bit of fun?:lol:

Maxime

01-20-2008, 10:15 AM

Guys.... this tread is 2 months old. :lol:

Imperial1

01-20-2008, 10:52 AM

Check the date of the original post....it was made 2 months ago. Thus Calzaghe/Hopkins has ben signed since!

Alright then I retract my statement ...

WAR CALZAGHE :lol: