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teetop
06-30-2007, 08:51 PM
This ethnic mook beats an old gatekeeper in lovemore n'dou and
all of the sudden he's a marquee guy. Fuck off!
The guy has made a name for himself off the beating he took from
a weightdrained cotto. A refreshed 147 lb cotto slaughters a 147 lb
malignaggi. Paulie is only a top jr. welter because of how dead a division it is right now. He needs to fight the winner of witter/harris before ever mentioning hattons name again.

CASH_718
06-30-2007, 08:54 PM
Shut up you whiny cunt.

teetop
06-30-2007, 09:03 PM
Shut up you whiny cunt.

Right back at you. You new york cocksucker. Fuck you and your
sorry bunch of second rate wanna be fighters. New york sucks and
so do their boxers. Briggs, judah, malignaggi. World champs. Bwaaahaa
haaahaaaa!!

TanstA
06-30-2007, 09:05 PM
Right back at you. You new york cocksucker. Fuck you and your
sorry bunch of second rate wanna be fighters. New york sucks and
so do their boxers. Briggs, judah, malignaggi. World champs. Bwaaahaa
haaahaaaa!!

:lol::lol::lol:

somebodysssssss mad. relax buddy it's ok...

sues2nd
06-30-2007, 09:08 PM
This ethnic mook beats an old gatekeeper in lovemore n'dou and
all of the sudden he's a marquee guy. Fuck off!
The guy has made a name for himself off the beating he took from
a weightdrained cotto. A refreshed 147 lb cotto slaughters a 147 lb
malignaggi. Paulie is only a top jr. welter because of how dead a division it is right now. He needs to fight the winner of witter/harris before ever mentioning hattons name again.

Ummm, Paulie is the champ? Dont you understand that Hatton would be considered the challenger (and dont come at me with "OH HATTON IS THE IBO CHAMPION"....:-( )?

If we are talking about draw then yes, I agree in that right. But what you are saying is equivalent to saying something like John Ruiz never deserved a fight vs Jones....again, Jones was the challenger, Ruiz was the champion.

Suge Green
06-30-2007, 09:12 PM
I don't think Paulie deserves the ass-beating Hatton would give him. He interviews admirably, and is a throwback to the old Italian fighters both in workrate and the way he conducts himself (unlike Peter Man-Fritos). All the guy needs is firepower...losing a fight to him has got to be like falling victim to a form of chinese water torture.

sues2nd
06-30-2007, 09:15 PM
Right back at you. You new york cocksucker. Fuck you and your
sorry bunch of second rate wanna be fighters. New york sucks and
so do their boxers. Briggs, judah, malignaggi. World champs. Bwaaahaa
haaahaaaa!!

Ummmm, Tyson, Bowe, Benitez, Lamotta, McGovern, Tunney, Benny Leonard....do I need to keep going?

What a stupid fuckin comment.

teetop
06-30-2007, 09:17 PM
Ummm, Paulie is the champ? Dont you understand that Hatton would be considered the challenger (and dont come at me with "OH HATTON IS THE IBO CHAMPION"....:-( )?

If we are talking about draw then yes, I agree in that right. But what you are saying is equivalent to saying something like John Ruiz never deserved a fight vs Jones....again, Jones was the challenger, Ruiz was the champion.
Another dumbass northeastern prick who doesn't watch the sport.
IBF, IBO, Idon't care. Hey frosty, ricky is the RING magazine champ.
He beat kostya tsyzu to get it, and he's never lost it, so noooooo
paulie isn't the champ. He's the challenger, but an unworthy and underserving one.

Vantage_West
06-30-2007, 09:19 PM
Ummmm, Tyson, Bowe, Benitez, Lamotta, McGovern, Tunney, Benny Leonard....do I need to keep going?

What a stupid fuckin comment....you could just say robinson:good

teetop
06-30-2007, 09:21 PM
Ummmm, Tyson, Bowe, Benitez, Lamotta, McGovern, Tunney, Benny Leonard....do I need to keep going?

What a stupid fuckin comment.

Benitez is puerto rican. and tunney? Just because they've been to the city doesn't make them natives. Bowe was no world champ. He was a coward who wouldn't fight LL, and he got beaten up twice by golota.
The others besides tyson are from a time before machines and stuff.
I'm talking about post ice age. Dickwad!

sues2nd
06-30-2007, 09:23 PM
Another dumbass northeastern prick who doesn't watch the sport.
IBF, IBO, Idon't care. Hey frosty, ricky is the RING magazine champ.
He beat kostya tsyzu to get it, and he's never lost it, so noooooo
paulie isn't the champ. He's the challenger, but an unworthy and underserving one.

Again you open your mouth and put your foot RIGHT in it.

He beat KT how many years ago?

You know nothing about the sport if you dont understand that the IBF title is more relavent then a two year old Ring Magazine championship or the IBO.

Again, if we are talking draw then Hatton is higher, but if they go into the fight, one will be considered the champion....one the challenger. AND I DOUBT PAULIE WILL BE PINING FOR THAT COVETTED 2005 Ring Magazine Belt.

And trust me little boy, I have forgotten more boxing knowledge then you will ever even know.

Now go learn how to type a proper fucking sentance jackass.

:hi:

sues2nd
06-30-2007, 09:26 PM
Benitez is puerto rican. and tunney? Just because they've been to the city doesn't make them natives. Bowe was no world champ. He was a coward who wouldn't fight LL, and he got beaten up twice by golota.
The others besides tyson are from a time before machines and stuff.
I'm talking about post ice age. Dickwad!

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Wilfredo Benitez...born in Bronx NY.

Riddick Bowe is considered one of the 20 greatest HWs ever.

Again, you dont know shit about the sport you are arguing about.

joeboxer
06-30-2007, 09:33 PM
Malignaggi did just win a belt by shut out, and he represented himself very well against Cotto.

Liston3
06-30-2007, 09:34 PM
Malignaggi is a very good fighter, he has the best workrate and stamina in boxing 160 and below

fightking12
06-30-2007, 09:35 PM
He doesn't

teetop
06-30-2007, 09:42 PM
Again you open your mouth and put your foot RIGHT in it.

He beat KT how many years ago?

You know nothing about the sport if you dont understand that the IBF title is more relavent then a two year old Ring Magazine championship or the IBO.

Again, if we are talking draw then Hatton is higher, but if they go into the fight, one will be considered the champion....one the challenger. AND I DOUBT PAULIE WILL BE PINING FOR THAT COVETTED 2005 Ring Magazine Belt.

And trust me little boy, I have forgotten more boxing knowledge then you will ever even know.

Now go learn how to type a proper fucking sentance jackass.

:hi:

Hey bitch, boxing aint for women anyway. And since when did the ring
belt age? Paulie is a paper champ, and hatton is the REAL champ. You
sound like an idiot when say that the IBFelonious belt holds more water
than the ring belt. Why don't you go make a thread on how the IBF belt
is the real title and the Ring belt means shit, and see how quickly you get laughed off ESB. Also, while your at it, tell me who hedgehog has beaten. Hmm?
Exactly, looks like you forget your boxing already. old timie bitch!
Time for araset.

Kostya Zoo
06-30-2007, 09:48 PM
He beat KT how many years ago?

You know nothing about the sport if you dont understand that the IBF title is more relavent then a two year old Ring Magazine championship or the IBO.

Again, if we are talking draw then Hatton is higher, but if they go into the fight, one will be considered the champion....one the challenger. AND I DOUBT PAULIE WILL BE PINING FOR THAT COVETTED 2005 Ring Magazine Belt.
come on son, that's bullshit and you know it.

Ring magazine lineal champ > paper title. Always.

sues2nd
06-30-2007, 09:49 PM
Hey bitch, boxing aint for women anyway. And since when did the ring
belt age? Paulie is a paper champ, and hatton is the REAL champ. You
sound like an idiot when say that the IBFelonious belt holds more water
than the ring belt. Why don't you go make a thread on how the IBF belt
is the real title and the Ring belt means shit, and see how quickly you get laughed off ESB. Also, while your at it, tell me who hedgehog has beaten. Hmm?
Exactly, looks like you forget your boxing already. old timie bitch!
Time for araset.

Im done arguing with you...your a jackass who knows nothing about the sport. Youve already shown that plenty of times in this very post. Plain and simple.

Do some research on boxing before you argue with the big boys ok?

:good and :hi:

sues2nd
06-30-2007, 09:51 PM
come on son, that's bullshit and you know it.

Ring magazine lineal champ > paper title. Always.

He left the weight class already. He WAS the ring champ at that weight.

Right now, if the fight were to happen, Mallinagi would be CONSIDERED the titlist and Hatton the challenger for his belt. THAT IS THE ORIGINAL POINT!

If you know what you are talking about in boxing (and I am assuming you do) then you know the above statement to be the truth.

Kostya Zoo
06-30-2007, 09:56 PM
Right now, if the fight were to happen, Mallinagi would be CONSIDERED the titlist and Hatton the challenger for his belt. THAT IS THE ORIGINAL POINT!


But this is only according to one organization, and it doesn't mean shit since the belt was vacated, and then handed to N'dou. The world over considers Hatton the real champion.

Look teetop is being a real douchebag on this thread, but Hatton is the one and only champion at 140 lbs. All the others are worthless paper title holders.

teetop
06-30-2007, 09:57 PM
He left the weight class already. He WAS the ring champ at that weight.

Right now, if the fight were to happen, Mallinagi would be CONSIDERED the titlist and Hatton the challenger for his belt. THAT IS THE ORIGINAL POINT!

If you know what you are talking about in boxing (and I am assuming you do) then you know the above statement to be the truth.

Now your arguing with another poster who agrees with me. Look woman
why don't you go make some biscuits and leave the boxing talk to the men.

C Money
06-30-2007, 10:19 PM
:yikes :yikes :yikes

What a thread!!!!


First HATTON is the Champion Lineal, IBO and WBC International(:lol: Sorry, gotta be a smartshit!! Especially now that Pac and Hatton both real champs who posess this "distinction'). Malignaggi isnt considered the CHAMP is simply another Titleholder at 40. No way in hell that Malignaggi, calls shots, gets more money or respect than Hatton, unless he beats him. Does he deserve a shot? YES, if Hatton is staying at 40. Hatton may very well face PBF and in between?? Malignaggi should face another titlist and bolster his worthiness even more.

Now, I'm gonna defend Sues2nd and any women that enjoy, posting, partcipating, and supporting the sport of Boxing. Whats the big deal??
Dont agree with their opinions?? FINE, make your point and let the discussion play itself out. Dissing her simply on gender?? It's bullshit, she has every right that YOU DO. Looking for the good ol stone ages again?? GO TRY RADICAL ISLAM:good

rodney
06-30-2007, 10:53 PM
Malignaggi beats Hatton easy.
Hatton too slow and cant box a lick.
Malignaggi would tatoo hatton all nite long.
He wont stand still like Hatton wants.
Hatton just isnt that good.

jazzboy
06-30-2007, 11:14 PM
...you could just say robinson:good
Robinson was from georgia then moved to detroit then new york

Suge Green
06-30-2007, 11:57 PM
And just where the hell have you been hiding??
When I was not here for awhile, atleast I had a reason..I got banned :lol:

Still following boxing...not as much time to post lately. How are things in Klitschkonia...??? :smoke

El Bombasto
07-01-2007, 12:00 AM
This ethnic mook beats an old gatekeeper in lovemore n'dou and
all of the sudden he's a marquee guy. Fuck off!
The guy has made a name for himself off the beating he took from
a weightdrained cotto. A refreshed 147 lb cotto slaughters a 147 lb
malignaggi. Paulie is only a top jr. welter because of how dead a division it is right now. He needs to fight the winner of witter/harris before ever mentioning hattons name again.

Did Paulie steal your girl?

markbrooklyn
07-01-2007, 12:37 AM
This ethnic mook beats an old gatekeeper in lovemore n'dou and
all of the sudden he's a marquee guy. Fuck off!
The guy has made a name for himself off the beating he took from
a weightdrained cotto. A refreshed 147 lb cotto slaughters a 147 lb
malignaggi. Paulie is only a top jr. welter because of how dead a division it is right now. He needs to fight the winner of witter/harris before ever mentioning hattons name again.

You seem like a HATER to me.. And Hatton didnt fight an OLD Tyszu? Or a WASHED UP Castillo? Why hasn't Hatton fought Witter?? Actually why hasnt Hatton fought any pure boxers with speed and movement? Looks to me like he stayed far away from those types of fighters. Malignaggi is the WBO Champion.. You act like he's some club fighter off the street. And you sayd Paulie is only a top jr welter because of how dead a division it is but you can say the same about Hatton cant you?? He just fought someone coming up from the 135lbs division so he didnt even fight a true Junior welterweight! You make no sense so STFU thank you :good

sues2nd
07-01-2007, 12:40 AM
But this is only according to one organization, and it doesn't mean shit since the belt was vacated, and then handed to N'dou. The world over considers Hatton the real champion.

Look teetop is being a real douchebag on this thread, but Hatton is the one and only champion at 140 lbs. All the others are worthless paper title holders.

Your right on a couple of things.

One, teetop is being a doucebag. But doucebag is as doucebag does I guess.

And I agree that Hatton is the class of 140. I never said different. My only point that I attempted to make was that Paulie holds the more legitimate belt...the belt that if they met would be the one recognized THE CHAMPIONSHIP up for grabs to the winner.

So, if a fighter is going against the legitimately recognize champ of an organization, then he is considered the challenger. No matter who is better, no matter who is more proven, no matter who is the bigger draw (as I stated with Roy and Ruiz comparison...Roy was the favorite, the better fighter and the better draw...but he was the challenger).

I said nothing more, nothing less.

markbrooklyn
07-01-2007, 12:41 AM
a lot of people was saying that for Cotto vs Malignaggi, Cotto is too slow bla bla bla bla...what happen?

Yeah but Cotto has WAY more power then Hatton is a WAY better boxer then Hatton. So there's a big difference.

sues2nd
07-01-2007, 12:46 AM
Now, I'm gonna defend Sues2nd and any women that enjoy, posting, partcipating, and supporting the sport of Boxing. Whats the big deal??
Dont agree with their opinions?? FINE, make your point and let the discussion play itself out. Dissing her simply on gender?? It's bullshit, she has every right that YOU DO. Looking for the good ol stone ages again?? GO TRY RADICAL ISLAM:good

Oh ya killin me C Money.

Ive been posting on here for YEARS and you still dont know that Im a dude....

:patsch

The name is an acronym....each letter stands for something...long story. Its cool tho, dont sweat it!

Thanks for the backup tho bro. :good

psychopath
07-01-2007, 01:16 AM
This ethnic mook beats an old gatekeeper in lovemore n'dou and
all of the sudden he's a marquee guy. Fuck off!
The guy has made a name for himself off the beating he took from
a weightdrained cotto. A refreshed 147 lb cotto slaughters a 147 lb
malignaggi. Paulie is only a top jr. welter because of how dead a division it is right now. He needs to fight the winner of witter/harris before ever mentioning hattons name again.

You fuck off . . . idiot.

Malignali earned his belt and he's got all the right to challenge any other belt holders in that division and he deserve it.

Winner of Witter/Harris? Stop crying fo now boii, it sure's gonna happen. :deal

J_Roth
07-01-2007, 01:23 AM
Paulie is a worthy challenger at this stage. Hatton would be a 3 time jr ww IBF champ if he won. Interesting. I would like to see Paulie have one more fight and then take on Hatton. Of course Hatton in the challenger to Paulie's belt and Paulie to his. That doesn't mean Hatton isn't the best at 140 lbs.

brooklyn1550
07-01-2007, 03:24 AM
Paulie Malignaggi along with Junior Witter are the 2 biggest threats to Hatton at 140.

CASH_718
07-01-2007, 05:20 AM
I think the point that this thread proves is that teetop is a jagoff.

Taffyy
07-01-2007, 06:32 AM
Malignaggi beats Hatton easy.
Hatton too slow and cant box a lick.
Malignaggi would tatoo hatton all nite long.
He wont stand still like Hatton wants.
Hatton just isnt that good.
Jesus............I fight it hard to beleive that some people actually believe some of the posts like this...........Malignaggi can box...no doubt & he is a good fighter with a good future but please lets not get carried away.........!!!!!..........As for beating Hatton easy..:patsch ......... sigh...!!!
No one wants to stand still but if your being pressured into it by arguably one of the best pressure fighters about then you aint got much choice........I also admit that Rickys grappling ,certainly whilst not being pretty is very effective for "teeing up" quick combos out of the clinch.............Ask Castillo's ribs how "bad" Hatton & his tactics are....

IrnBruMan
07-01-2007, 06:39 AM
Malignaggi beats Hatton easy.
Hatton too slow and cant box a lick.
Malignaggi would tatoo hatton all nite long.
He wont stand still like Hatton wants.
Hatton just isnt that good.

:rofl :rofl :rofl

IrnBruMan
07-01-2007, 06:41 AM
You seem like a HATER to me.. And Hatton didnt fight an OLD Tyszu? Or a WASHED UP Castillo? Why hasn't Hatton fought Witter?? Actually why hasnt Hatton fought any pure boxers with speed and movement? Looks to me like he stayed far away from those types of fighters. Malignaggi is the WBO Champion.. You act like he's some club fighter off the street. And you sayd Paulie is only a top jr welter because of how dead a division it is but you can say the same about Hatton cant you?? He just fought someone coming up from the 135lbs division so he didnt even fight a true Junior welterweight! You make no sense so STFU thank you :good

Wow, a hater accusing another poster of being a hater :think

ApatheticLeader
07-01-2007, 06:44 AM
I don't think Paulie deserves the ass-beating Hatton would give him. He interviews admirably, and is a throwback to the old Italian fighters both in workrate and the way he conducts himself (unlike Peter Man-Fritos). All the guy needs is firepower...losing a fight to him has got to be like falling victim to a form of chinese water torture.
I don't mind Malignaggi at all, but that is a funny quote :lol:

Taffyy
07-01-2007, 06:44 AM
I just like to say I'm not saying Paulie doesnt deserve a shot...........I just have a BIG problem with people saying he'd beat Hatton easily......pure noncence........I could see PM starting off well but by the middle rounds I think Hatton would begin to get to him , stop him dancing & then tag him with some "slowers"...!!!!!.......Like I said he's a good boy but I dont think he could live with Ricky......

ApatheticLeader
07-01-2007, 06:48 AM
Malignaggi can live with Hatton - all the biggest names he has beaten were on the decline. He wore Tszyu down, but it's rather easy to wear down 35yo legs. Hatton has never faced anyone with Malignaggi's stamina and footwork. Quite frankly whilst Hatton may well win, he struggles. Badly.

Taffyy
07-01-2007, 06:54 AM
Malignaggi can live with Hatton - all the biggest names he has beaten were on the decline. He wore Tszyu down, but it's rather easy to wear down 35yo legs. Hatton has never faced anyone with Malignaggi's stamina and footwork. Quite frankly whilst Hatton may well win, he struggles. Badly.
This kind of post I can live with.......Someones own point of view but with a decent argument to back it up.............Its the "Paulie beats Hatton easily" shit I dont like !!!!

sean
07-01-2007, 07:27 AM
IMO malinaggi gives hatton a lot of problems and i like the match up stylewise , boxer v a pressure fighter.

lateral movement to keep hatton of balance could do the trick but i see hatton walking through anything malinaggi could throw to land his harder punches , and the fact that hatton goers to the body negates a lot of leg movement as so often you see punchers always aim for the head when in with a slick fighter .

IMO hatton has better and lighter feet than cotto , and cotto managed to tag malinaggi, so i see hattons quick feet and quick hands being able to offset malinaggi`s boxing abilty, but still hatton is going to miss some of his wind up off his feet punches by a country mile .

i think malinaggi defeniatley is in the mix, in fact looking at 140 it should only be malinaggi/witter and harris in the frame if hatton stays at 140 which i think he should.

hopkins would get mullered and is not ready now and i suspect not ready in the future going by the robbery he was gifted against forbes i think it was.

Smith
07-01-2007, 08:34 AM
Interesting thread this! Some of the posters opinions are cringeworthy though! Its worth noting a lot of you are making it sound like Ricky is slow about the ring, the guy has brilliant footwork and is no slouch, more so than a Cotto that faced Paulie. My personal opinion is Ricky would end this fight with Paulie in 9, but Paulie puts on another 'brave' showing

C Money
07-01-2007, 02:05 PM
Oh ya killin me C Money.

Ive been posting on here for YEARS and you still dont know that Im a dude....

:patsch

The name is an acronym....each letter stands for something...long story. Its cool tho, dont sweat it!

Thanks for the backup tho bro. :good


:lol: :lol: :lol:

My apologies then my man!!!!! I've just come to east side this year, please forgive the faux paux.:good With all the biscuit baking/woman comments, I was thrown off track. :yep :yep :yep

sues2nd
07-01-2007, 02:25 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

My apologies then my man!!!!! I've just come to east side this year, please forgive the faux paux.:good With all the biscuit baking/woman comments, I was thrown off track. :yep :yep :yep

Its all good bro. The name has thrown a few people off before.

But, I do consider myself a lesbian tho, CHICKS ARE GREAT :nut !!! So I guess you could look at it that way?!?!?

:good

:huh

Danny Ocean
07-01-2007, 02:27 PM
this fight depends on how malignaggi sets about winning

if he goes to win on points by jabbing moving creating angles and also frustrating hatton he COULD win on points

but i doubt it

KillerInstinct
07-01-2007, 03:04 PM
Malinaggi does not deserve a fight with Hatton? That's not a very nice thing to say :nono :hey Honestly, Hatton faced plenty of Lovemore N'Dou type fighters before he got the shot with KT..why did Hatton deserve it? Especially considering that Hatton got to fight the champ in his hometown..I don't think Hatton deserved that.

Anywho, if Hatton can't get a fight with PBF..what else is he gonna do? He has to fight some of the 140 paper champions. PBF got a lot of crap when he went from 140 to 154 without cleaning out any of those divisions, but Hatton hasn't cleaned out 140 yet. Whether Malinaggi deserves the fight or not, doesn't really matter. Hatton has thin options considering he won't go to 147 again, and if he does, he won't last long.

As for the fight itself, I see Malinaggi's speed and workrate confusing Hatton for the first couple rounds, but then Hatton's hold and hit style, with some body work will wear down Paulie and Hatton will stop him late. This is by no means an easy fight for Hatton though.

igotJUIC3
07-01-2007, 03:22 PM
Cotto gets hit WAY to much and as much as i dont rally like Hatton his holding keeps him from taking lost of hits so i can see hatton beating Cotto....but i also can see Cotto beatng Hatton....cant see Paulie winning because Coto backed him down and punished him as will Hatton..maybe even worse because Hatton holds all the time!

Craig
07-01-2007, 03:45 PM
According to boxrec Hatton vs mayweather is taking place 10 nov in vegas so hopefully this will happen. This is the fight everyone wants to see and has to happen now before any of the 2 fighters go in decline which could happen in a couple of years time. I would no way settle for a fight against malignaggi. Hatton has stated he only wants to fight the elite fighters now which are Mayweather, Cotto, De La Hoya, Margarito/Williams, Mosley and possibly Casamayor and Diaz if they move up. Ok malignaggi is the IBf champ but in my eyes Hatton would still be the champ if he didnt have to give it up to fight better fighters than the mandatories. Also it has been said hatton struggles against slick fighters and avoids them well this isnt strictly true - he struggles against south paws - Collazo and Magee (he wasnt slick just a south paw!!) malignaggi IMO would be stopped and sure its for a title but Hatton would just vacate it again. I would only consider malignaggi if he beat the winner of Witter/Harris.

markbrooklyn
07-01-2007, 04:35 PM
Wow, a hater accusing another poster of being a hater :think

If speaking FACTS is being a hater then I'll be a hater :)

Bigcat
07-01-2007, 05:09 PM
Paul is one who does deserve a fight with Ricky..

He faces whoever they put him in with , he is a newly crowned champ and is very game..

Floyd will demand massive payment , while Paul doesn't demand half as much..

I just don't like the stipulation that Paul wont fight outside of MSG..

strange..