Why would any Brits want Earl or Thaxton to beat Khan

[robpalmer135]

When it comes to a fight nationality means nothing to me, for example I want Mayweather to beat Hatton because i like Mayweather and dont really like Hatton, nationality has nothing to do with it. I wanted Haye and Calzaghe to win recently because i like them as people and there styles.

Now there are alot of people on here who pick National Pride above anything else, I do not get why those guys would then want Earl or Thaxton to win agaisnt Khan.

Khan clearly has the potential to be a world wide star, but if Thaxton or Earl win agaisnt him they will never go further than Euro Level. surley most should be routing for Khan as he is our best shot at another top level world champ right now to join Calzaghe, Haye and even Hatton.

No matter how bad you think Khan is, you have to amdit he has more potential to become a world champ than Earl and Thaxton.

[GazOC]

I'd have to have a VERY good reason to go against a British fighter against a foreign opponent...I can't remember the last time I did it, probably one of Eubanks SMW defences.

[robpalmer135]

I'd have to have a VERY good reason to go against a British fighter against a foreign opponent...I can't remember the last time I did it, probably one of Eubanks SMW defences.

OK, so who do you want to win between Khan and Earl, bearing in mind that Khan can go places after thise fight, but Earl will go no where!

[GazOC]

Khan, for the reasons you mentioned. I rooted for Lewis against Bruno for the same reasons....

[Doyley10]

I see your point. I don't think that people want to see Khan in particular take a fall, more Frank ******. In teh big picture, I think we all want Khan to do well, but would ahve a quiet smirk if he lost to Thaxton as it might even do him some good in the long run.

[elle]

When it comes to a fight nationality means nothing to me, for example I want Mayweather to beat Hatton because i like Mayweather and dont really like Hatton, nationality has nothing to do with it. I wanted Haye and Calzaghe to win recently because i like them as people and there styles.

Now there are alot of people on here who pick National Pride above anything else, I do not get why those guys would then want Earl or Thaxton to win agaisnt Khan.

Khan clearly has the potential to be a world wide star, but if Thaxton or Earl win agaisnt him they will never go further than Euro Level. surley most should be routing for Khan as he is our best shot at another top level world champ right now to join Calzaghe, Haye and even Hatton.

No matter how bad you think Khan is, you have to amdit he has more potential to become a world champ than Earl and Thaxton.


I find it ironic, to say the least, that you should start a thread entitled "Why would any brits want Earl or Thaxton to beat Khan" and yet go on to say you want Mayweather to beat Hatton because you like Mayweather and don't really like Hatton.

You want everyone to back Khan as he has more potential than Earl or Thaxton - by that token why don't you want everyone to get behind Hatton when a win over Mayweather on Dec 8th would be a far greater accomplishment by a British boxer?

[GazOC]

Its hard to be a Frank ****** fighter and popular with the hardcore boxing fan....

[Cobbler]

It's a British tradition to hype up our sportsmen to levels that they are unlikely to fulfill, then gleefully wait for them to fail to do so, so that we can villify them for their failure.

[victorhugo4222]

It's a British tradition to hype up our sportsmen to levels that they are unlikely to fulfill, then gleefully wait for them to fail to do so, so that we can villify them for their failure.
You mean like the england football team???

thats what annoys me about the english media. they build them up to be world-beaters but as soon as they lose they cant slag them off enough!! most scots dont have a problem with england or the fans its the media the way they portray england as the best team in the world but really all there doing is setting them up for a fall. its the same with all there sports football, cricket, rugby etc.

[mike464]

Because they dislike Khan. It seems most Brits who are actually boxing fans dislike him.

[robpalmer135]

I find it ironic, to say the least, that you should start a thread entitled "Why would any brits want Earl or Thaxton to beat Khan" and yet go on to say you want Mayweather to beat Hatton because you like Mayweather and don't really like Hatton.

You want everyone to back Khan as he has more potential than Earl or Thaxton - by that token why don't you want everyone to get behind Hatton when a win over Mayweather on Dec 8th would be a far greater accomplishment by a British boxer?

Its clearly not ironic as i say it doesnt matter to me, i am curious as why people it does matter to would support Earl. i think pretty much everyone who read that would get it!

[GazOC]

Because they dislike Khan. It seems most Brits who are actually boxing fans dislike him.

Whats to dislike about him? His level of oppostion hasn't been the greatest but theres no need to rush a kid his age.

[Betty Swollocks]

because Khan is a jumped-up little shit who has had the red rug rolled out before him, and in my opinion ridiculously overhyped, simple as that. Can't wait to see him get crushed.

[GazOC]

He got the 'red rug' because he got sliver at the Olympics, thats just the way it is....

[Betty Swollocks]

He got the 'red rug' because he got sliver at the Olympics, thats just the way it is....

and that's a nonsense in my opinion. Proper boxing fans will surely agree. How many successful Olympic boxers go on to be major players in the pros? The kind of major player Khan is being built up to be. I sometimes despair at the stupidity and naivity of the human race.
(not aimed at you Gaz).

[elle]

Its clearly not ironic as i say it doesnt matter to me, i am curious as why people it does matter to would support Earl. i think pretty much everyone who read that would get it!


The irony is you could change the thread title to 'Why would any Brits want Mayweather to beat Hatton'.

What I don't get is that you are supporting Mayweather over Hatton because you like him more and yet are curious as to why people choose to support Earl over Khan - perhaps they just like Earl more also!

[GazOC]

and that's a nonsense in my opinion. Proper boxing fans will surely agree. How many successful Olympic boxers go on to be major players in the pros? The kind of major player Khan is being built up to be. I sometimes despair at the stupidity and naivity of the human race.
(not aimed at you Gaz).

Its just the way it is, just look at how the Yanks get behind their medalists....

[faisal]

whether people like to admit every one wants to see there own kind win, khan may be born in britain but his parents are south asian, and for some people theres enough reasoning in this argument to see him loose against an ''english'' fighter. go to a few local pubs on fight night and you'll know what i mean.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Its clearly not ironic as i say it doesnt matter to me, i am curious as why people it does matter to would support Earl. i think pretty much everyone who read that would get it!


Many fans of boxing, and indeed all sports, love to root for the underdog. You wanna try it sometime, it's a lot of fun.

[mike464]

because Khan is a jumped-up little shit who has had the red rug rolled out before him, and in my opinion ridiculously overhyped, simple as that. Can't wait to see him get crushed.spot on

[K2ray]

whether people like to admit every one wants to see there own kind win, khan may be born in britain but his parents are south asian, and for some people theres enough reasoning in this argument to see him loose against an ''english'' fighter. go to a few local pubs on fight night and you'll know what i mean.
:good

What do the ignorant likes of GazProm & David Wiki UK have to say about that then?:deal

[rooq]

whether people like to admit every one wants to see there own kind win, khan may be born in britain but his parents are south asian, and for some people theres enough reasoning in this argument to see him loose against an ''english'' fighter. go to a few local pubs on fight night and you'll know what i mean.

yeah...and that will continue until he starts fighting non-brits.

i know its not everyone but there is an element of this going on.

[David UK]

and that's a nonsense in my opinion. Proper boxing fans will surely agree. How many successful Olympic boxers go on to be major players in the pros?



Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Sugar Ray Leonard
Oscar dela Hoya
Lennox Lewis
Wladimir Klitschko etc etc etc How many do you want?

[David UK]

I don't want either Earl or Thaxton to beat Khan. And neither will. Not a chance.

[GazOC]

Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Sugar Ray Leonard
Oscar dela Hoya
Lennox Lewis
Wladimir Klitschko etc etc etc How many do you want?

Bah!! What did Teofilio Stevenson, one of the most successful Olympic boxers ever, accomplish as a pro??;)

[GazOC]

Its not Khan I dislike.. its his hype..

Thats one of my points, its not his fault. He's just playing the cards he's been dealt...good luck to the kid.

[Dunky McCafferty]

whether people like to admit every one wants to see there own kind win, khan may be born in britain but his parents are south asian, and for some people theres enough reasoning in this argument to see him loose against an ''english'' fighter. go to a few local pubs on fight night and you'll know what i mean.

I wanted to see Limond beating Khan cos Limond is a scotsman & I always support 'my own' no matter what. 'My own' being scottish fighters.

However, I want Khan to beat Earl very much.

[Betty Swollocks]

Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Sugar Ray Leonard
Oscar dela Hoya
Lennox Lewis
Wladimir Klitschko etc etc etc How many do you want?

what I mean is what percentage of olympic medal winners go on to be anything special as a pro? I don't know exactly but it won't be high.
all Khan is is a kid who won an olymipc medal and has beat up a few tomato cans and almost got knocked out against a solid domestic fighter in Limond.
How can this justify the hype? It can't.

[maka]

You mean like the england football team???

thats what annoys me about the english media. they build them up to be world-beaters but as soon as they lose they cant slag them off enough!! most scots dont have a problem with england or the fans its the media the way they portray england as the best team in the world but really all there doing is setting them up for a fall. its the same with all there sports football, cricket, rugby etc.

got it in one victor me old son.

take the croatia game, the boo's at half time said it all for me hahaha and its not the first time i've heard those boo's from wembley new or old.

if that was us scots we'd have been sing gin :lol: at half time to let the team know we're still behind them even at 2-0 down:good

[Taffyy]

I know this may sound a bit strong but alot of the hype Khan is getting stems from the fact he is Asian , A good technician but one from a tiny minority of fighters from his ethnic group in the sport. Britain's government likes to be seen nowadays as politically correct to the max & you just have to look at the state of our country to see the detrimental effect this is having. I am not a Racist but Im not blind either & you go into ANY building site or factory across the country & there is mild racism & anti foreign feeling everywhere , The media know this & are pushing to make a hero out of a man from an ethnic background in an attempt to get the nation "behind him". Afterall we have an actual world champion in Gavin Rees(Who happens to be a friend of mine) who most casual fans in the UK know nothing about...How fucking sad is that...?????
Please dont take this as an inflamatory post as Im no racist just someone who lives in the real world.

[Top Dog]

whether people like to admit every one wants to see there own kind win, khan may be born in britain but his parents are south asian, and for some people theres enough reasoning in this argument to see him loose against an ''english'' fighter. go to a few local pubs on fight night and you'll know what i mean.

Mate, your wrong here. Most people would like to see Khan get beaten by Earl cause he is a total muppet, nothing to do with colour, creed, money etc. The guy is a very unlikeable character, total split tail. His head is in the clouds, and is full of arrogance, a total wanker basically. I will laugh my arse off when he gets beaten. ****** is also a total wanker imo

[Betty Swollocks]

Mate, your wrong here. Most people would like to see Khan get beaten by Earl cause he is a total muppet, nothing to do with colour, creed, money etc. The guy is a very unlikeable character, total split tail. His head is in the clouds, and is full of arrogance, a total wanker basically. I will laugh my arse off when he gets beaten. ****** is also a total wanker imo

:lol:
that's what I'm saying too. Ignore the race card players on here. A dick is a dick.

[elle]

yeah...and that will continue until he starts fighting non-brits.

i know its not everyone but there is an element of this going on.


He has already been fighting non-brits in his pro career (four at least) - Medjadji, Drilzane, Komjathi & Martynov.

[kerrminator]

Because Khan is a gobby, over-rated little twat who needs a serious wake up call before he ends up with egg on his face.

[robpalmer135]

I'm really sorry but do you think that Khan should shun the fame and go and fight on a Carl Froch undercard like John Murray. Khan did it the hard way same is everyone else when he was an amateur, and im sure if he hadn't of been so succseful at the Olympics at such a young age then im sure he would of been more than prepared to fight on undercards like other fighters have to. Sure he is being over Hyped but he is the best british prospect out that and if you don't think that then im sorry i think your crazy.

If Khan had not won a medal and turned pro, but put on the performances like he has everyone on this forum would be raving about him. People just wanna be pesamists and be able to say "I told you so" but with Khan im going to be laughing last because he will be a World Champion and a top level one like Hatton and Calzaghe, it may take longer than Khan and ITV casual viewers expect but it will happen!

Every young boxer is envious of Khans position, every boxer would want the sponsership deals that he has, the money he earns, the fame he has achieved, the fact that he fight on Prime Time National TV and gets a bigger audience that Hatton and Calzaghe put together (ok due to that face they are PPV but Khan get 6mil and i reckon Calzaghe and Hatton would find it hard to top that)

Mitchell, Murray and all the other young fighters coming up would love to be in Khans position.

Good luck to Khan and long may it continue, Sure he is cocky but so is every other bloody boxer, they got to sell the fights.

I think Khan gets alot of flack from hardcore fan becuase of how badly Audley Harrison did. I don't think anyone can say that Harrison fought the same level of Opponent in 3 years after winning Gold that Khan has?

I bet you can name as many Olympic medal winners than have gone on to win World Titles as fighters who have fought a fighter whos previous fight was for a World Title in there 14th fight.

You also can't expect every Olympic Champion to win a world title but some of the best World Champs have been former Olympians. Muhamed Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and Oscar De La Hoya the 3 biggest names in the sports History (apart from Tyson) all took gold at the olympics and current P4P champ Mayweather won Bronze.

If Khan beat Earl and Thaxton convincingly, will you start to beleive in him?

[elle]

I don't think its fair to say people just want to be pessimists where Khan is concerned. Perhaps some are genuinely unconvinced - there could be many reasons for this such as his questionable chin & punch resistance and the fact he still looks amateurish at times, etc.

As for the hype surrounding him my problem is that he seems to actually believe it and we are seeing this more and more in the way he conducts himself out of the ring.

He is a great prospect but whilst I am able to recognise this I wouldn't dismiss others potential such as Murray or fail to recognise the achievements of Earl and Thaxton as is sadly too often the case in Khan threads on here.

A lot has been made of Khan's Olympic success and he did us proud but there is only so much you can milk it three years down the line. As for the Audley Harrison comparison, I think a case has already been made on a previous thread that Harrison's opponents were ahead of Khan's.

Yes, its great for Khan that he gets to headline on prime time tv - but its not so great for fans when his last fight certainly didn't live up to expectations or that billing. Whilst it is not Khan's fault that Lawton didn't put up any sort of challenge it inevitably, once again, led to criticism about Khan's level of opponents. Then the Earl fight was announced - a genuine contest and one which should, hopefully, answer some of the doubts about Khan.

[Taffyy]

:lol:
that's what I'm saying too. Ignore the race card players on here. A dick is a dick.
No one is playing race cards mate they are just stating facts. I work in a rough trade that is full of rough arse white british fellas , The majority of which are casual boxing fans , They all want Khan to loose as he is Asian & the other fella is "one of them"....:? Its sad & ignorant especially to myself as a genuine boxing fan.
As it happens I think the boy is over-rated & the force feeding of him to the public only add's to the average person hoping he gets beaten....
Genuine fight fans can ignore race , creed etc but to the masses Amir is an uppity ****stani who needs a good hiding from a "real" brit........very very sad but reality Im afraid & for all you naive people out there go do the pepsi challenge on this subject in some local pubs & building sites & you'll see the truth...:?

[achillesthegreat]

Brits don't like winners, they like losers. They like Benn over Eubank and Bruno over Lewis. They want Earl and Thaxton over Khan.

Why the fuck would anyone not want Khan to be successful, help British boxing etc

[toffeejack]

because Khan is a jumped-up little shit who has had the red rug rolled out before him, and in my opinion ridiculously overhyped, simple as that. Can't wait to see him get crushed.

Totally agree :good

[eddie007]

Pro boxing is a business and part of any sucessfull business is a descent product thats sells. Amir Khan like or hate him is a product that sells and sells big. That is the bottom line money, and think of how many people are getting a wage out of khan, people like his trainer and his "business advisor" some little asian dude who is always hanging around him. Lots of people are making too much money for khan to have a risky fight yet. Boxing is all about timeing and they are getting that pretty much spot on. To summarise Khan is worth too much money to too many people for him to have a trully 50/50 yet.

[Taffyy]

Brits don't like winners, they like losers. They like Benn over Eubank and Bruno over Lewis. They want Earl and Thaxton over Khan.

Why the fuck would anyone not want Khan to be successful, help British boxing etc
See my post above mate..............I know what you mean but we are speaking from a real boxing fans perspective the casual masses dont look at it like that.
Personally though I think the fat cats are protecting him because of the £ involved for now , As soon as he steps up to world class he's getting knocked out........He's got the offensive technique but not the defence or chin to be the superstar some are touting him to become.

[robpalmer135]

You can;t hate the guy for having the reg rug rolled under him. and its a fact that probably 85% of boxers have had run ins with the law but nobody hears about it because there nobodys. If Graham Earl got arrested nobody would care, if Murray got arrested nobody would care, but because its Khan its big new and rightly so because what he did was bad. Hopefully he will change.

Khan World Champ by 2010!

[garymcfall]

I want Khan to win, I think the kids immensly talented. People are nitpicking on his faults but see if you took Floyd Mayweather Jr 13th fight or something im sure you could sit and pick fault with his performance. Khan is learning , the only difference is he is making his mistakes and learning from them infront of the whole nation.

[Betty Swollocks]

No one is playing race cards mate they are just stating facts. I work in a rough trade that is full of rough arse white british fellas , The majority of which are casual boxing fans , They all want Khan to loose as he is Asian & the other fella is "one of them"....:? Its sad & ignorant especially to myself as a genuine boxing fan.
As it happens I think the boy is over-rated & the force feeding of him to the public only add's to the average person hoping he gets beaten....
Genuine fight fans can ignore race , creed etc but to the masses Amir is an uppity ****stani who needs a good hiding from a "real" brit........very very sad but reality Im afraid & for all you naive people out there go do the pepsi challenge on this subject in some local pubs & building sites & you'll see the truth...:?

yeah can't really argue with that, I hear ya.
From a proper boxing fans point of view we can't wait to see him get crushed as he's a cocky, overrated muppet.

[robpalmer135]

I want Khan to win, I think the kids immensly talented. People are nitpicking on his faults but see if you took Floyd Mayweather Jr 13th fight or something im sure you could sit and pick fault with his performance. Khan is learning , the only difference is he is making his mistakes and learning from them infront of the whole nation.


Spot on!

[timber]

Its not the end of the world if khan's chin is a bit weak. As long as he learns to tighten up his defence he's got the tools to be succesful.Look at David Haye for example many of us on here (and other forums) dissmissed him especially after that Carl Thompson fight but the lad is an undisputed champion now even with his 'questionable chin'. Over the years there have been many great champions with questionable whiskers but still made quite an impact .
He also is still a growing boy and not fulfilled his body frame.Once he finds his optimum weight his punch resistance could improve (a la Cotto), same goes for Haye.
I think he'll do ok ,wont set the world on fire but at least another Brititish world champ........cant be all bad can it?
:hat

[achillesthegreat]

See my post above mate..............I know what you mean but we are speaking from a real boxing fans perspective the casual masses dont look at it like that.
Personally though I think the fat cats are protecting him because of the £ involved for now , As soon as he steps up to world class he's getting knocked out........He's got the offensive technique but not the defence or chin to be the superstar some are touting him to become.
Boxing fans can sometimes be the worst. The best get hated.

The only thing you can do prior to pros is amateur and Khan set himself up much better than he did. His amateur work is sensational.

Khan has height, reach and speed. He keeps showing better strength and power that people believe. He keeps showing better ring savvy i.e. footwork, pacing himself, fighting on the inside etc We can only go off what we know.

His chin is suspect as is his defence but he is working hard on it. Nothing more can be asked.

I think he needs to be treated like a star but by that I mean quality coach, quality sparring etc He has got Moore and M'Baye so they should be giving him amazing work.

I wish him alot of success. No reason not to.

[brown bomber]

Khans resume after 13 fights is better then Mayweathers at the same time.

[robpalmer135]

Khans resume after 13 fights is better then Mayweathers at the same time.

Certainly better than Hatton, Calzaghe and all other Brit champs apart from Haye.

Infact he has faced tougher competition than Macceranelli has! Khan would beat Bobby Gunn!

Sugar Ray Robinson fought bums for 6 years, Ali fought nobodys for a long time, Lewis and Tyson the same.

[elle]

Khans resume after 13 fights is better then Mayweathers at the same time.


An interesting comparison.

Here is another - Khan is about to go into his 15th pro fight, didn't Mayweather win a WBC Title in his 18th fight just turned 21 years old?

[robpalmer135]

An interesting comparison.

Here is another - Khan is about to go into his 15th pro fight, didn't Mayweather win a WBC Title in his 18th fight just turned 21 years old?

1) Floyd won it in his 19th fight
2) Khan is about to have his 14th fight
3) Floyd only fought a former world title challenger in his 18th fight, Khan is doing so in his 14th.
4) Floyd never a fought somebody with one defeat before becoming a world champion, Khan fought Limmond.
5) Floyd was 21 when he won a world title, so Khan has a year to win won.
6) Nobody critisised any of Floyd opponents on the way to a world title as they new he was a young contedner, they do for Khan for some reason.

[toffeejack]

I don't like Khan.

Apart from the media going completely overboard over him (which I understand is not his fault), he comes across as an arrogant, disrespectful prick who believes his own hype.

If, however he manages to dimsmantle Earl and Thaxton in impressive fashion I will give him credit because he will certainly deserve it. I don't believe he will ever reach World Class though.

[UndisputedUK]

He got the 'red rug' because he got sliver at the Olympics, thats just the way it is....

He lost in the final, and got the best of treatment. More money than some world champs make in their careers.
He is not world class at the moment and has been fed light hitters. The boxing fans are not fooled.
I'd like to see Earl win, some payback for him for the Katsidis fight.

[robpalmer135]

I don't like Khan.

Apart from the media going completely overboard over him (which I understand is not his fault), he comes across as an arrogant, disrespectful prick who believes his own hype.

If, however he manages to dimsmantle Earl and Thaxton in impressive fashion I will give him credit because he will certainly deserve it. I don't believe he will ever reach World Class though.

name a succesful boxer that is not arrogant? there is a difference between arrogance and confidence!

[achillesthegreat]

An interesting comparison.

Here is another - Khan is about to go into his 15th pro fight, didn't Mayweather win a WBC Title in his 18th fight just turned 21 years old?
In hindsight you can say Floyd stepped up but who is to say Khan won't be fighting Diaz in his 18th fight?

You just don't know.

For the time being Khans record is VERY good.

If it is to be scrutinised, the fact he hasn't faced a puncher is suspect. However Earl has good pop and is a brawler so its a step up in power and overall class.

[toffeejack]

name a succesful boxer that is not arrogant? there is a difference between arrogance and confidence!

There are many. Like you said there is a difference between arrogance and confidence and Khan is on the "arrogant" level.

He's also very disrespectful to other fighters which I don't like and there are many great boxers who always showed respect to the opponent no matter what.

[robpalmer135]

He has only been disreqpectful to guys like Mitchell, Murray, Thaxton, and Earl becasue they have been disrespectful towards him. They are all jelous of him!

[toffeejack]

He has only been disreqpectful to guys like Mitchell, Murray, Thaxton, and Earl becasue they have been disrespectful towards him. They are all jelous of him!

Thats nonsense. Khan was the one running his mouth off at all the above mentioned before they all called him out.

Like I said, he believes his own hype which is never a good thing. It's a matter of time before he gets sparked out, we all saw what happened when light-hitter Limond almost stopped him. Credit to him for coming back in that fight but all the ones you mentioned would have finished the job in the same position.

[elle]

1) Floyd won it in his 19th fight
2) Khan is about to have his 14th fight
3) Floyd only fought a former world title challenger in his 18th fight, Khan is doing so in his 14th.
4) Floyd never a fought somebody with one defeat before becoming a world champion, Khan fought Limmond.
5) Floyd was 21 when he won a world title, so Khan has a year to win won.
6) Nobody critisised any of Floyd opponents on the way to a world title as they new he was a young contedner, they do for Khan for some reason.


1) The records say Floyd won the WBC Title in his 18th fight.

2) Khan's 14th fight was against Lawton. He is about to have his 15th.

3) If Floyd only fought a former world title challenger in his 18th fight that must have been for the WBC title he won. Khan may be fighting a former world title challenger in his 15th fight but that is only in defence of his Commonwealth title.

4) Don't understand the point being made.

5) Floyd was 21 when he won a WBC world title which I think he went on to defend in his next 5 fights so will be interesting to see if Khan can equal that in the next year.

6) The posts in this and other Khan thread's explain why Khan is criticised whether that is justified or not.

[elle]

In hindsight you can say Floyd stepped up but who is to say Khan won't be fighting Diaz in his 18th fight?

You just don't know.

For the time being Khans record is VERY good.

If it is to be scrutinised, the fact he hasn't faced a puncher is suspect. However Earl has good pop and is a brawler so its a step up in power and overall class.


I see your point - Mayweather's career is easier to analyse because its there for all to see whereas Khan's destiny is based mainly on his potential. Early promise doesn't always translate to lasting success. Time will tell.

Given ******'s reputation for protecting his fighters its highly unlikely Khan would be fighting Diaz in his 18th fight though.

Khan is such a high profile boxer (something he himself has embraced it has to be said) he is bound to be scrutinised and I agree the fact he has yet to face a known puncher is suspect. Just how suspect that is we may find out during the Earl fight.

[Danny Boy]

I'd hate to see Khan lose because he has the opportunity not only to be a flag ship for British Boxing but also to maybe tahe some of the edge out of the attitude towards Muslims that the country currently has. Just like McGuigan united the Irish - Khan could unite the English.

Earl is a test of his chin but Thaxton would have been a nightmare for Khan at this stage of his development. In 3 or 4 more fights Khan would be able to handle Thaxton.

I'd like to see Khan win but humbled a little. His comments after Limond knocked him down worried me. He sounded a bit like Naz and that road leads to oblivion.

[elle]

He has only been disreqpectful to guys like Mitchell, Murray, Thaxton, and Earl becasue they have been disrespectful towards him. They are all jelous of him!

I recall Khan calling out and being disrespectful towards his british lightweight rivals around the time of his 12th fight earlier this year - insulting some established boxers who had achieved more in the sport than he had was bound to get a response from them.

[Danny Boy]

I recall Khan calling out and being disrespectful towards his british lightweight rivals around the time of his 12th fight earlier this year - insulting some established boxers who had achieved more in the sport than he had was bound to get a response from them.

You're right... like I suggested before he's sounding more like Naz all the time. If he's doing it to sell fights I can understand it it but there's a line you don't cross. Confidence is one thing arroganve is totally different. That's why I'd like to see someone like Thaxton (a guy I admire for being a true down to earth British fighter) give him a gentle reminder ( a left hook to the head would do) that respect costs nothing but means a lot.

[robpalmer135]

I recall Khan calling out and being disrespectful towards his british lightweight rivals around the time of his 12th fight earlier this year - insulting some established boxers who had achieved more in the sport than he had was bound to get a response from them.

I recall his rivals calling him out by his 1st pro fight!

[elle]

I recall his rivals calling him out by his 1st pro fight!

Can you back this up?

I genuinely don't recall (was two and a half years ago) so please elaborate.

[madpup]

The hate for him is way over the top. He does tend to be a bit cocky, but look at someone like Carl Froch, who is way worse. I dont see anyone willing for him to lose to Inkin. Also and this is unfortunate, the guy is very young and any person getting so much hype at a young age, is likely to have success go to his head somewhat.

Khan's record for his number of fights is better than any of the great current British fighters.

Also so many young British boxers have been highly disrespectful to him and they havent achieved shit compared to him. I remember O'Donnel mouthing of before a fight in the US 'I will show America what a world class lighweight British prospect is like'..only to be knocked out by a journeyman in the third round (I think).

I respect the fact that Khan is pushing ****** to give him tough fights at this stage of his career, how many other fighters did you see do that? If ****** had his way, Khan would still be fighting no-hopers.

[elle]

Also so many young British boxers have been highly disrespectful to him and they havent achieved shit compared to him. I remember O'Donnel mouthing of before a fight in the US 'I will show America what a world class lighweight British prospect is like'..only to be knocked out by a journeyman in the third round (I think).


Not sure that quote from O'Donnell is accurate - doesn't he fight at welterweight and was facing a fighter who usually fights at light middleweight in the States? He did come a cropper that night though unfortunately.

It was the lightweight fighters who responded to Khan's challenge to step up and face him before its too late. To put this in context, he was saying this BEFORE he even had a really notable win on his record (Limond).

[madpup]

Not sure that quote from O'Donnell is accurate - doesn't he fight at welterweight and was facing a fighter who usually fights at light middleweight in the States? He did come a cropper that night though unfortunately.

It was the lightweight fighters who responded to Khan's challenge to step up and face him before its too late. To put this in context, he was saying this BEFORE he even had a really notable win on his record (Limond).

I was going on memory...so got it slightly wrong, this is taken from the bbc article:

The 21-year-old said: "I'm going to show the American's what a world-class British prospect really looks like. "I know I'm in a different league to Khan. People will realise that soon."

He then proceeded to get knocked out in the second round by someone who lost 11 out his last 15 fights.

[faisal]

Not sure that quote from O'Donnell is accurate - doesn't he fight at welterweight and was facing a fighter who usually fights at light middleweight in the States? He did come a cropper that night though unfortunately.

It was the lightweight fighters who responded to Khan's challenge to step up and face him before its too late. To put this in context, he was saying this BEFORE he even had a really notable win on his record (Limond).
Yes he's a welterweight, and he did say that he would show how a british prospect is supposed to fight, words to that effect, and he did go on to say that he was at another level compared to khan and khan wouldnt last 3 rounds if they both met in the future, as to the opponent who humiliated him on that fateful night he was a journey man who was recently out boxed by a 16 year old kid
the hype hennsely was giving these 2 fighters was rediculous, both murray and odonnel underperformed against less then average opponents that night,

[elle]

Yes he's a welterweight, and he did say that he would show how a british prospect is supposed to fight, words to that effect, and he did go on to say that he was at another level compared to khan and khan wouldnt last 3 rounds if they both met in the future, as to the opponent who humiliated him on that fateful night he was a journey man who was recently out boxed by a 16 year old kid
the hype hennsely was giving these 2 fighters was rediculous, both murray and odonnel underperformed against less then average opponents that night,

I agree O'Donnell underperformed that night but he is still young so hopefully he can bounce back. He is a fighter who is known to start slowly and got caught very early in that fight - he learned a hard lesson.

As for the other fighter you mention - Murray must have impressed someone with that 7th round knockout as he has top billing in Vegas on 7th Dec and will gain valuable exposure in the States as it will be televised.

I like to give these young fighters some credit for stepping out of their comfort zone.

On another note Faisal - would appreciate a response about a post you made in the 8th December thread.

[ron u.k.]

When it comes to a fight nationality means nothing to me, for example I want Mayweather to beat Hatton because i like Mayweather and dont really like Hatton, nationality has nothing to do with it. I wanted Haye and Calzaghe to win recently because i like them as people and there styles.

Now there are alot of people on here who pick National Pride above anything else, I do not get why those guys would then want Earl or Thaxton to win agaisnt Khan.

Khan clearly has the potential to be a world wide star, but if Thaxton or Earl win agaisnt him they will never go further than Euro Level. surley most should be routing for Khan as he is our best shot at another top level world champ right now to join Calzaghe, Haye and even Hatton.

No matter how bad you think Khan is, you have to amdit he has more potential to become a world champ than Earl and Thaxton.i don't understand your question.how can national pride come into this when we're talking about 3 english fighters?

[kerrminator]

1) Floyd won it in his 19th fight
2) Khan is about to have his 14th fight
3) Floyd only fought a former world title challenger in his 18th fight, Khan is doing so in his 14th.
4) Floyd never a fought somebody with one defeat before becoming a world champion, Khan fought Limmond.
5) Floyd was 21 when he won a world title, so Khan has a year to win won.
6) Nobody critisised any of Floyd opponents on the way to a world title as they new he was a young contedner, they do for Khan for some reason.

Perhaps Floyd didnt recieve the same criticism as Khan at this stage, but then again, Floyd had bags more potential (not to mention the fact that PBF didnt get floored by a part time fighter who mostly operated a weight division below )

In fact, I cant believe that some people are even puttin A mere Khon in the same sentence as PBF

[IronBull]

Floyd didnt recieve the same criticism because not many people had internet that time.. that is why.

[kerrminator]

With or without internet criticism was just as regular back then (you must be a young un lol )

Khan gets the abuse due to the fact he claims to be the best in the world at his weight even though he hasnt met anyone with half an eggcup of talent at lightweight yet.

Juan Diaz is the main man of the division imo.....I'd love to see the over-confident young twat tell him he's the best

[achillesthegreat]

I see your point - Mayweather's career is easier to analyse because its there for all to see whereas Khan's destiny is based mainly on his potential. Early promise doesn't always translate to lasting success. Time will tell.

Given ******'s reputation for protecting his fighters its highly unlikely Khan would be fighting Diaz in his 18th fight though.

Khan is such a high profile boxer (something he himself has embraced it has to be said) he is bound to be scrutinised and I agree the fact he has yet to face a known puncher is suspect. Just how suspect that is we may find out during the Earl fight.
****** will let his fighter fight depending on his confidence in him. For example Calzaghe was British champ and was going to take on top 10 168 in Collins and then replaced him with a top 10 168 in Eubank. ****** clearly thinks high of Calzaghe and always called out Jones, Hopkins, Ottke etc Hatton on the other hand looked good but not great and ****** admits he thought this. Naz looked amazing and thus he developed a great featherweight. Look at Arthur, Earl etc they are good but not WOW. ****** monitors their career perfectly.

My beef with ****** is the fact he brings in the WBU to hold fighters off of world title honours but claim they are champs. He also uses the belt to stop them fighting top domestic opposition.

I think its clear that ****** thinks Khan is good but he doesn't really think he is the next Floyd, hence the reason hes put him in with top comp but no punchers and no MAJOR step ups like WBO title shot now.

[dwilson]

I want Khan to lose every fight but only because he is complete ass hole and his link with Wank ******.

[Naidah]

When it comes to a fight nationality means nothing to me, for example I want Mayweather to beat Hatton because i like Mayweather and dont really like Hatton, nationality has nothing to do with it. I wanted Haye and Calzaghe to win recently because i like them as people and there styles.

Now there are alot of people on here who pick National Pride above anything else, I do not get why those guys would then want Earl or Thaxton to win agaisnt Khan.

Khan clearly has the potential to be a world wide star, but if Thaxton or Earl win agaisnt him they will never go further than Euro Level. surley most should be routing for Khan as he is our best shot at another top level world champ right now to join Calzaghe, Haye and even Hatton.

No matter how bad you think Khan is, you have to amdit he has more potential to become a world champ than Earl and Thaxton.


You're right what you're saying but I'm not sure Amir Khan is good enough to win a world title. I'd rather reserve judgement until I've seen him against a few punchers. It looks like he has a glass jaw, which doesn't bode well for the future, plus he still leaves his chin in the air, not much improvement there.

I'll definately support him against Earl and Thaxton as he has more potential.

I don't think he's as arrogant as people are making out. Sure there have been some cheeky comments but all boxers make cheeky comments, Hatton is one of the most humble fighters out there, but he did point out that 'we'd seen more action in 4 rounds than in the whole of Mayweather's career!'

Khan always praises his opponents after the fights, hasn't really trash talked to the extent of say a Carl Froch or Junior Witter, so I wouldn't say he's 'arrogant.' He's always tried to come across as patriotic, even wished the England rugby team and Lewis Hamilton well in his last fight. I don't have a problem with his personality although he doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box, nor would I say I'm a 'fan.'

I think it's a case of let's wait and see what he can do, far too early to be calling him the next British world champion, yet also too early to write him off as a chinny bum.

[robpalmer135]

With or without internet criticism was just as regular back then (you must be a young un lol )

Khan gets the abuse due to the fact he claims to be the best in the world at his weight even though he hasnt met anyone with half an eggcup of talent at lightweight yet.

Juan Diaz is the main man of the division imo.....I'd love to see the over-confident young twat tell him he's the best

Khan has only said that hes going to BECOME the best in the world. show me a quote where he has said he is the best already.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Khan has only said that hes going to BECOME the best in the world. show me a quote where he has said he is the best already.


He says it on Page 19 of December's: Glass Beard Monthly magazine.

[bingbong]

I want Earl to win because he is 6-1 and with £10 on if he sparks out khan it will help my hatton vs mayweather beer fund :D

Props to Khan though, he should win but Earl is no easy fight. Earl never really looked like winning against Katsidis he put up a decent fight.

[Taffyy]

You mean like the england football team???

thats what annoys me about the english media. they build them up to be world-beaters but as soon as they lose they cant slag them off enough!! most scots dont have a problem with england or the fans its the media the way they portray england as the best team in the world but really all there doing is setting them up for a fall. its the same with all there sports football, cricket, rugby etc.
Hear fucking hear.........:thumbsup