Knees to head on ground, kicks to downed opponents

[Ethan Trims]

Ufc should implement some of prides old rules like Knees to an opponents head on the ground or even kicks to them. This would make many fights more exciting. The boring wrestling lay and pray style has an advantage in the Ufc because of its rule set.

[Beebs]

No knees on the grounds limits wrestlers just as much as anybody else, who can get the takedown and get side control as often?

[demzor]

Knees to the head on the ground are a must.. imo.

Soccer kicks to the head and stomps i can do without.

[demzor]

No knees on the grounds limits wrestlers just as much as anybody else, who can get the takedown and get side control as often?

If a wrestler gets you on the ground he's ahead on points anyway.. he doesnt need the knees. It's really no benefit except they may be able to finish the fight.

The knees would be of GREAT benefit to stopping a takedown though. Being able to sprawl and punish a wrestler for shooting in is a must for the sport imo.

[AJAX]

If a wrestler gets you on the ground he's ahead on points anyway.. he doesnt need the knees. It's really no benefit except they may be able to finish the fight.

The knees would be of GREAT benefit to stopping a takedown though. Being able to sprawl and punish a wrestler for shooting in is a must for the sport imo.

yeah , i agree it would be nice to be able to punish Rashad for coming for his usual take down and then lay n pray. But soccer kicks and stomps are a bit savage looking for the casual fan.

[.trunzx]

Get rid of elbows and include stomps and knees to the head of a grounded opponent.

[Beebs]

Why would you get rid of elbows?

[radianttwilight]

I'm not sure...knees to the head would be even more vicious in the UFC than Pride.

Can't fall out of the "ring" in UFC - guys would be turned into straight-up hamburger meet if they got pinned against the cage + kneed repeatedly.

You could soccer kick guys INTO the cage too.

[ufoalf]

I say let em knee to the head on the ground. This will at least make more interesting fights when the wrestler is in the cage.
I remember when Franca kept catching Sherk with the knees mid take down... that was fun imo.

[scurlaruntings]

I say let em knee to the head on the ground. This will at least make more interesting fights when the wrestler is in the cage.
I remember when Franca kept catching Sherk with the knees mid take down... that was fun imo.Fuck knows how that meathead kept standing.He took them knees like a shot of stiff liquor.Anyway elbows should be banned on the mat although elbows standing up should be allowed (maybe) But knees on the ground soccer kicks and stomps have to come back aswell as getting rid of the cage,renaming the UFC to PRIDE, bringing back that crazy old lady, sack Rogan and that idiot Glodberg and bring on the PRIDE team.. that ought to do it!

[demzor]

Why should elbows be banned?

Stats back up the fact that they don't cause fight stopping cuts more than anything else. Look at the cut stoppages lately.. theyve been from punches. Should we ban punches too?

[chimba]

Why should elbows be banned?

Stats back up the fact that they don't cause fight stopping cuts more than anything else. Look at the cut stoppages lately.. theyve been from punches. Should we ban punches too?

They should be banned on the ground not because they cause cuts and stoppage ..

but because far too many people throw it to ill effect and makes the referee thinks theres actual action...

and then we have 4 minutes of lay and pray with short elbows with an 05% connect rate

people call that getting busy on the ground..I call it a waste of $40

Stomps, kicks, knees on the ground are far better...it finishes fights

[demzor]

so instead we can watch ineffective hammerfists?

No thanks

A good elbow shot is a pretty damn effective blow.

[ufoalf]

so instead we can watch ineffective hammerfists?

Last time I watched Fedor, those "hammerfists" were pretty effective :yep

[chimba]

so instead we can watch ineffective hammerfists?

No thanks

A good elbow shot is a pretty damn effective blow.

No so we can watch them stood up if they do shit on the ground..

but I guess laying and holding is great for the "real enthusiast"

[demzor]

I'm not a big fan of laying and praying either.. but taking away elbows wont do anything to stop it.

[radianttwilight]

I'm not a big fan of laying and praying either.. but taking away elbows wont do anything to stop it.

Taking away elbows will make it worse, because it's much more risky to punch a downed opponent than to rain elbows on their face.

If elbow strikes on downed opponents are banned then there will be MUCH more lay and pray, people in top position won't want to risk anything that might cost them that position.

[Shanger]

I love stomps and kicks to downed opponents. I can only pray those weak-stomached pussies man up and include them one day.

[theunderdog]

knees are fine by me but the kicks on a grounded opponent should not be allowed for opponents who are clearly down. kicks to the ehads offighters down on one knee should be allowed, knees also. case in point, vera-sylvia, that sould be legalized IMO

[Beebs]

They should be banned on the ground not because they cause cuts and stoppage ..

but because far too many people throw it to ill effect and makes the referee thinks theres actual action...

and then we have 4 minutes of lay and pray with short elbows with an 05% connect rate

people call that getting busy on the ground..I call it a waste of $40

Stomps, kicks, knees on the ground are far better...it finishes fights

Myth, look what happened at the last k1 show,2 fights stopped because of cuts and a few other fights with nasty gashes; none of which came from elbows?

How many times have elbows that weren't hard actually ended a fight because of cuts?

[Beebs]

Again, another huge cut, not caused by an elbow.

It was a knee, that didn't KO him, if you outlaw elbows you need to outlaw all strikes.

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[scurlaruntings]

Fuck me that might even be worse than Marvin Eastmans cut.It sure is deep! [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[karatekid530]

a lot of fighters design how they throw their elbows just for cutting, thats what its good for. that doesnt mean it shouldnt be allowed. the fighters know what theyre getting into when they decide to train MMA. knees, elbows, everything should be allowed standing, on the ground, mid sprawl, wherever people wanna throw em. there should only be rules preventing strikes that are aimed at joints or things like spearhands and finger strikes to the eye

[Beebs]

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[AJAX]

you really " one uped "him there Beebs.

[Minotauro]

I would prefer to see knees to a downed opponent rather the elbows.