Jeff Lacy says MMA is a fad!!

[scurlaruntings]

In a recent conference with the media, former super middleweight champion Jeff Lacy (22-1, 17KOs) gave his thoughts on Mixed Martial Arts, primarily the UFC, and whether or not the sport of boxing ([Only registered and activated users can see links]***********.com/?m=show&id=11315#) has stepped up to compete with the UFC as a sport.
"I don't think that we really paid much attention to them. I see that as a fad, to tell you the truth. To me it's not a sport ([Only registered and activated users can see links]***********.com/?m=show&id=11315#). I used to see that in my old neighborhood in the Bronx. The fact of the matter is if you look at it with all their hype and all the rest of the stuff, Oscar de la Hoya verses Mayweather itself in the aggregate grossed as much as almost all of their MMA fights of the year, one fight," Lacy said. "Now you're going to add this card that's coming up now, between the two cards, they out-grossed the entire MMA fights for the year."
Lacy says that MMA is not as popular as the sport of boxing and there is a not a single mixed martial arts competitor on the level of a De La Hoya, Sugar Ray Leonard or even himself. While I won't go as far as stating that Lacy is a more popular athlete than a Chuck Liddell or a Tito Ortiz, two of the most well known stars in MMA, I will say that I wouldn't be surprised if Lacy made just as much money as them in his career.
"So, it's still not as popular as boxing. Boxing is the second most popular sport in the world, next to soccer ([Only registered and activated users can see links]***********.com/?m=show&id=11315#), and MMA is just something that's come along. They've done a great job of marketing it. For people that remember it, there's nobody on the level of Oscar de la Hoya, Ray Leonard, Ali, or Jeff Lacy or any of these guys," Lacy said. "There's nobody at MMA that right off the top of your head is going to go to a Hall of Fame. They're going to either remember them or they're going to have other lives afterwards. I can't remember one guy."
Lacy returns to the ring on the Dec. 8, facing Peter Manfredo Jr. on the undercard to Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Ricky Hatton ([Only registered and activated users can see links]***********.com/?m=show&id=11315#) in Las Vegas.

[McGrain]

Last time I listened to anything this guy had to say was just before Calzaghe kicked the shit out of him. He was wrong then too.

[Goose]

Lacy used to be one of my favorite fighters :-(
what a tool he has become

[Sinew]

Breyers would say the same thing about Haagen Daaz.

[Goose]

Breyers would say the same thing about Haagen Daaz.

thats a terrible comparison, have you even tried Haagen Dasz?
Breyers is not even on the same level :yep

[Kolya]

Jeff Lacy used the word aggregate? WTF is the world coming to?

[El Puma]

Jeff Lacy used the word aggregate? WTF is the world coming to?:lol: :lol:

[yesihavearm]

Breyers would say the same thing about Haagen Daaz.

Never even heard of Breyers but haagen daaz is the win.

[scurlaruntings]

I dont really see what the problem is.At the end of the day its his opinion and not much else.You can hardly call him a tool for voicing his view..

[Sinew]

thats a terrible comparison, have you even tried Haagen Dasz?
Breyers is not even on the same level :yep Oh of course... Haagen Daaz cannot be beaten.

[dave]

Why does the "White Boys" Frase always come up as a negative thing when boxing is discussed, I have a black friend that loves Pavlik's fights and gets pissed at other black guys that assume that white guys can't fight and then he starts naming top white fighters...oh ya he is also a big fan of black fighters also. MMA is a tough dicipline have you ever spent time watching these guys train...I do agree that it seems to be a fad right now,thats because it does not have the history that boxing has,,,similar to snowboarding and sking. Rampage Jackson is one tough bugger and his last fight was a gem.

[Goose]

I dont really see what the problem is.At the end of the day its his opinion and not much else.You can hardly call him a tool for voicing his view..
he said that there is nobody as good as him in all of MMA...how is that not a dumb thing to say
especially after that beatdown that he received

[scurlaruntings]

he said that there is nobody as good as him in all of MMA...how is that not a dumb thing to say
especially after that beatdown that he receivedDont distort what he said.His rhetoric and speaking about himself in 3rd person leaves much to be desired and gives the impression that his aloof.Jeff doesnt really come across that way when he fights and seems like a genuine nice guy in the ilk of guys like Micheal Grant.I wouldnt pay that much attention to it.

[Haye]

Negative. Reason they don't get into boxing is because they're smart and don't want to be mumbling like Ali the rest of their lives.:good

Actually retard, Boxing is statistically safer than MMA

[196osh]

Negative. Reason they don't get into boxing is because they're smart and don't want to be mumbling like Ali the rest of their lives.:good

I know that you are busy thinking of Floyd alot. But for fuck sake show some respect!!!:verysad

[Quik]

Negative. Reason they don't get into boxing is because they're smart and don't want to be mumbling like Ali the rest of their lives.:good

Thats the dumbest argument i ever heard.:-(

[marzblkman]

I somewhat agree with him but I don't agree with his reasoning. Frankly I see MMA/UFC/Pride and all that stuff as how Lou Dibella describe it.. "Human Cockfighting". While I respect the various disciplines involved, I'm NOT a fan at ALL of the ground striking that occurs. There is NO WAY any of those guys are gonna have long careers taking those type of ground attacks they take (elbows to the face, come on) ..

I give the MMA props in how they've marketed their sport to the casual "combat" sport fan or more particularly the WWE fan. Thats where they're KILLING boxing as the KING's, ARUM's and GREEDY BOY PROMOTION have pretty much alienated the casual fan with price gouged PPViews and limited exposure(stateside that is).

[Vantage_West]

Actually retard, Boxing is statistically safer than MMAyou havnt read that article abuot how elbows to the head cause major damage to the brain and neck(wow big surprise) far greater than a punch.

some mma guys are retiring rather early but not like boxing where the damage multplys and you have to fight alot to make a living thus fighting more taking more punishment where as mma is a thing on the side unless you are one of the few elite fighters.

[Vantage_West]

I somewhat agree with him but I don't agree with his reasoning. Frankly I see MMA/UFC/Pride and all that stuff as how Lou Dibella describe it.. "Human Cockfighting". While I respect the various disciplines involved, I'm NOT a fan at ALL of the ground striking that occurs. There is NO WAY any of those guys are gonna have long careers taking those type of ground attacks they take (elbows to the face, come on) ..

I give the MMA props in how they've marketed their sport to the casual "combat" sport fan or more particularly the WWE fan. Thats where they're KILLING boxing as the KING's, ARUM's and GREEDY BOY PROMOTION have pretty much alienated the casual fan with price gouged PPViews and limited exposure(stateside that is).great post :good
you have said everything that needs to be said.

human cockfighting in that it's all about one guy getting knocked out , finished beaten and bruised. it's not abot skill then just wieght and push on pike which is not what boxing is about.

and that idea of upgraded pro wreslting is a great point have you seen that poster ufc had afew months back which read "no rules, no holds barred,no scripts":huh no scripts?.....

[Vantage_West]

What the hell are you talking about? Dana White pays those guys peanuts compared to what boxers make.yeah if you are an elite fighter you are made...but come on man journeyman are getting paid £200 a fight if lucky.

you can say that there is abuot 50 fighters in the world who are getting ppv and high pay checks at most.

but compare that to EVERY OTHER fighter in the world that is the top of the iceberg...and the iceberg is a big bit every wieght division every continent. please man not just that you can fight around 6 people and be a ufc contender but with boxing some guys have 30 to 50 fights who get a shto at a title.

[Bodysnatcher]

Dont distort what he said.His rhetoric and speaking about himself in 3rd person leaves much to be desired and gives the impression that his aloof.Jeff doesnt really come across that way when he fights and seems like a genuine nice guy in the ilk of guys like Micheal Grant.I wouldnt pay that much attention to it.

Jeff Lacy does seem like a genuine good guy.

I was watching the Lacy Reid fight on youtube, and it's easy to forget what a legend this guy was in St Pete, I couldn't believe how loved he was there.

Maybe he still is, I don't know.

I think he'll bounce back big time, assuming his shoulder is fully healed.

[scurlaruntings]

I hope he does.There was alot of uneccesary hype surrounding Jeff but the kid is great for boxing and a credit to the sport.

[ThePlugInBabies]

WTF is a £???

i don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[Zhaakal]

Gotta agree with Lacy, UFC does suck.

[Zakman]

Lacy is right on the money. And in a few years when the UFC fad is over, people will see what Jeff can right now. Boxing RULES, UFC is nothing more than pale imitation, and a boring one at that - which is why they have to dress it up with all the WWF-style macho hype.

[ralphc]

In a recent conference with the media, former super middleweight champion Jeff Lacy (22-1, 17KOs) gave his thoughts on Mixed Martial Arts, primarily the UFC, and whether or not the sport of boxing ([Only registered and activated users can see links]***********.com/?m=show&id=11315#) has stepped up to compete with the UFC as a sport.
"I don't think that we really paid much attention to them. I see that as a fad, to tell you the truth. To me it's not a sport ([Only registered and activated users can see links]***********.com/?m=show&id=11315#). I used to see that in my old neighborhood in the Bronx. The fact of the matter is if you look at it with all their hype and all the rest of the stuff, Oscar de la Hoya verses Mayweather itself in the aggregate grossed as much as almost all of their MMA fights of the year, one fight," Lacy said. "Now you're going to add this card that's coming up now, between the two cards, they out-grossed the entire MMA fights for the year."
Lacy says that MMA is not as popular as the sport of boxing and there is a not a single mixed martial arts competitor on the level of a De La Hoya, Sugar Ray Leonard or even himself. While I won't go as far as stating that Lacy is a more popular athlete than a Chuck Liddell or a Tito Ortiz, two of the most well known stars in MMA, I will say that I wouldn't be surprised if Lacy made just as much money as them in his career.
"So, it's still not as popular as boxing. Boxing is the second most popular sport in the world, next to soccer ([Only registered and activated users can see links]***********.com/?m=show&id=11315#), and MMA is just something that's come along. They've done a great job of marketing it. For people that remember it, there's nobody on the level of Oscar de la Hoya, Ray Leonard, Ali, or Jeff Lacy or any of these guys," Lacy said. "There's nobody at MMA that right off the top of your head is going to go to a Hall of Fame. They're going to either remember them or they're going to have other lives afterwards. I can't remember one guy."
Lacy returns to the ring on the Dec. 8, facing Peter Manfredo Jr. on the undercard to Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Ricky Hatton ([Only registered and activated users can see links]***********.com/?m=show&id=11315#) in Las Vegas.



Many years ago boxing was a spectacle of savagery. The savagery has been removed from boxing but has returned to the cage. But instead of calling it savagery, they now call it "martial arts." A rose by any other name.....................

[Healy]

Last time I listened to anything this guy had to say was just before Calzaghe kicked the shit out of him. He was wrong then too.
Pretty much same here

Lacy was a fad.

[Bigcat]

You know what...

Jeff is probably right..

UFC.. MMA .. they are popular now, but god forbid they have a ring fatality, Then we will see how credible they are.. Boxing has taken decedes to get to where we are by way of safety measures, They practice a very reckless sport and i think its a ticking timebomb....

[Vantage_West]

WTF is a £???somthing that is twice as powerful as the dollar:hey :deal

[ralphc]

You know what...

Jeff is probably right..

UFC.. MMA .. they are popular now, but god forbid they have a ring fatality, Then we will see how credible they are.. Boxing has taken decedes to get to where we are by way of safety measures, They practice a very reckless sport and i think its a ticking timebomb....


Most of the competitors are so incompetent that they aren't much of a threat. It's like watching two old ladies trying to swat each other.

[Vantage_West]

Pretty much same here

Lacy was a fad.thus making everything he said null and void:think

[Jinx]

Lacy would destroy most welterweights in MMA with just even a little ground-game...

[Goose]

Have any of you posting this trash ever seen any MMA fights involving top professionals like Couture or Emelianenko? How can you say that these people have no skills or are boring to watch?

[Vantage_West]

Have any of you posting this trash ever seen any MMA fights involving top professionals like Couture or Emelianenko? How can you say that these people have no skills or are boring to watch?boring no, skills...hmmm.

couture has a really ugly style it is upright it is open it is easy to see him throw awkward thrown jabs and hooks that hant got the technique nah im not bought on the "ELite have the best technique"

[Zakman]

Have any of you posting this trash ever seen any MMA fights involving top professionals like Couture or Emelianenko? How can you say that these people have no skills or are boring to watch?

These guys do have skills certainly, but their fights are not only boring, they're FRIGHTFULLY boring. Two guys charge at one another, throw a few punches in earnest, maybe - and then end up rolling around on the ground for what seems like forever. For the life of me, I will never understand why anyone finds that the least bit entertaining. The few times I watched this crap, it literally put me to sleep. I'd rather watch paint dry, frankly.

[iceman]

Have any of you posting this trash ever seen any MMA fights involving top professionals like Couture or Emelianenko? How can you say that these people have no skills or are boring to watch?

My brother always calls me to tell me that there is a big fight on and when i do watch it all i see is 2 men fighting on their feet for 20 seconds and then rolling on the ground for the remainder of the fight - piss boring:verysad
- he is the dumb one in the family -

[pudding]

Have any of you posting this trash ever seen any MMA fights involving top professionals like Couture or Emelianenko? How can you say that these people have no skills or are boring to watch?


The top men may or may not the best street fighters in the world. Street fighters have only the most primitive skills.

[Tencount85]

I think Jeff Lacy is one of the last people that should comment on stuff like that..hahaha.

At this point and time Lacy would probably get beat up by a MMA referee.

[The Whaler]

Many years ago boxing was a spectacle of savagery. The savagery has been removed from boxing but has returned to the cage. But instead of calling it savagery, they now call it "martial arts." A rose by any other name.....................

I wouldn't really call it savagery. I have never heard of an MMA fatality in the top levels of the sport, and the referees are quick to stop a fight. People are too impressed and/or shocked by the elbows and knees and angry faces to see that MMA is somewhat tame compared to a serious boxing match.

I don't think MMA is a fad. It's pretty damn big in Asian countries, and probably will continue to be popular for quite some time. While most MMA fighters were painfully crude in the beginning, the level of skill and conditioning required to succeed in MMA has jumped up markedly. That said, I've never seen an MMA fight with the kind of excitement I experienced watching Hagler-Hearns or Ward-Gatti I.

[lyraus]

Negative. Reason they don't get into boxing is because they're smart and don't want to be mumbling like Ali the rest of their lives.:good

obviously you have not heard Chuck Liddell speak recently. The guy shows tell tale signs of becoming punch drunk, far worse than any of the top boxers out there right now. He is starting to sound like Tommy Hearns and that is on his good days. On his bad days, just watch his appearance on a morning talk show. The guy was as bad as Ali.

Other MMA fighters like Dave Menne, Alan Goes, and Sakuraba have also received brain damage from fighting.

[lyraus]

the UFC is more popular in the USA (and probably always will be) b/c it's marketed to a crowd that boxing ostricized years ago.

The UFC is only more popular with college frat boys and rednecks. Across the board boxing is still more popular. The numbers do not lie. In 2007, while doing roughly HALF the number of PPV shows, HBO boxing has generated more revenue than the UFC. Also, the live gates for the top boxing cards this year (DLH vs. Mayweather, Mayweather vs. Hatton, Calzaghe vs. Kessler, Cotto vs. Mosley, etc) have FAR surpassed the revenue for the live gates in the UFC.

The UFC is a sinking ship, IMO. Overall PPV numbers are down from their peak last year. Overall the ratings for their little reality show are down from previous seasons. Their biggest draw (Liddell) has lost his last two fights. Their second biggest draw (Couture) walked away from the company with their heavyweight belt. Their lightweight champ is suspended for a year because he got caught with roids. Their welterweight title will have been in limbo for about a year by the time it is finally contested for again. Their big name Pride acquisitions have been busts.

The fact of the matter is that they have trouble generating stars because all of the guys end up losing to each other. It is nice to have parity, but there is too much inconsistency in their product, which IS the fighters. Mega fights like Mayweather vs. Hatton almost never happen because it is difficult for these guys to even string together 3 or 4 fights without losing.

[Beebs]

I do agree with him that boxing is the 2nd most popular sport in the world next to soccer - but the UFC is more popular in the USA (and probably always will be) b/c it's marketed to a crowd that boxing ostricized years ago. I also agree that, pound for pound, boxers are far superior atheletes than anybody in MMA. If these guys could cut it in one field (boxing, kickboxing or wrestling) they would compete there and make FAR more money. They can't cut it in one discipline, so they go into the "cage", which is carefully marketed to the same white boys that grew up watching Macho Man Randy Savage...

You do realize that Kickboxers make less than mma fighters, it is significantly less popular, and the real wrestlers hardly get paid at all, maybe a training stipend to cover expenses if they are national competitors and lucky.

[Beebs]

boring no, skills...hmmm.

couture has a really ugly style it is upright it is open it is easy to see him throw awkward thrown jabs and hooks that hant got the technique nah im not bought on the "ELite have the best technique"

So by your standard of juding Couture by his jabs and hooks, we should judge boxers on their lack of world class wrestling ability that Couture has?

[lyraus]

So by your standard of juding Couture by his jabs and hooks, we should judge boxers on their lack of world class wrestling ability that Couture has?

why? Boxers aren't required to wrestle. MMA fighters are required to know how to throw hands. Apples and Oranges. Fact of the matter is that as of 2007 there isn't an MMA fighter alive that is as good at MMA as a top boxer is at boxing. Maybe in 5 to 10 years that will change, if young kids actually start specifically training MMA from the time they are 10 until they turn pro. Only then will you be able to say that top MMA fighters are as good as top boxers. Right now you mostly just see guys with one dominant style (which they came from) and the rest of their game is completely mediocre.

[Beebs]

why? Boxers aren't required to wrestle. MMA fighters are required to know how to throw hands. Apples and Oranges. Fact of the matter is that as of 2007 there isn't an MMA fighter alive that is as good at MMA as a top boxer is at boxing. Maybe in 5 to 10 years that will change, if young kids actually start specifically training MMA from the time they are 10 until they turn pro. Only then will you be able to say that top MMA fighters are as good as top boxers. Right now you mostly just see guys with one dominant style (which they came from) and the rest of their game is completely mediocre.

Of course boxers are better at boxing right now, simple number dictate that.

But there is no requirement for MMA fighters to be top notch boxers, they only need to be the best figheters, by whatever means they are able.

To call Randy Couture unskilled because he doesn't box as well as a top notch boxer is equally as stupid as saying a top boxer is unskilled because he isn't a top wrestler.

[Tencount85]

These MMA threads are pointless for this very reason, it ends up degenerating into a "which style is better", "a boxer can/can't beat a (insert martial art style) expert". Guys, Boxing is my #1 sport, but these threads are pointless because there is NO WAY TO TELL WHICH FIGHTING STYLE IS SUPREME. Not unless you make a tournament where you pit fighters from various fighting styles against one another. Even then, you still don't know because any given fighter, whether he be a boxer, wrestler, martial artist can LOSE at any time.

I don't even watch UFC either, but I respect what they do and this had to be said.

[sprite]

boxing 4 life!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pudding]

why? Boxers aren't required to wrestle. MMA fighters are required to know how to throw hands. Apples and Oranges. Fact of the matter is that as of 2007 there isn't an MMA fighter alive that is as good at MMA as a top boxer is at boxing. Maybe in 5 to 10 years that will change, if young kids actually start specifically training MMA from the time they are 10 until they turn pro. Only then will you be able to say that top MMA fighters are as good as top boxers. Right now you mostly just see guys with one dominant style (which they came from) and the rest of their game is completely mediocre.



The 10% of the bums that get in the cage are mediocre at everthing, the other 90% are completely useless.

[Beebs]

Not unless you make a tournament where you pit fighters from various fighting styles against one another.

You mean like say, a no holds barred fight? Perhaps the first 5 ufc's or so?

[Tencount85]

You mean like say, a no holds barred fight? Perhaps the first 5 ufc's or so?

Something like that, yes. The old UFC was pretty brutal and you often saw specialists in one style fighting specialists of another.

[smbsmd]

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Fedor Emelianenko

[Beebs]

Guys who aren't good enough for boxing are the ones who usually get into MMA. They first try boxing, but once they get their asses beat daily in sparring and realize how boxing takes much more skills and dedication, they decided to give MMA a try. " hey, why not shave my head, get some tatoos, and fight in the octagon "??? it's much easier than boxing, so they decided to take a try in the lesser sport.

It's funny to even label these guys as some kind of " Martial artists " ..... ROFL hahahahahhaha, fuckin laughable...

Most of these guys can't even throw a proper kick and punch so how the fuck are they Martial artists??? lol

You are fucking stupid.

No, most fighters do not come from boxing, most come from a grappling and/or kickboxing background. If they have boxed at all, most guys did pretty well. The pure boxers that decide to fight, lose, badly.

[Galaxy]

I think Calzaghe may have scrambled Lacy's brain if he thinks MMA is not a sport.

[Punisher33]

Guys who aren't good enough for boxing are the ones who usually get into MMA. They first try boxing, but once they get their asses beat daily in sparring and realize how boxing takes much more skills and dedication, they decided to give MMA a try. " hey, why not shave my head, get some tatoos, and fight in the octagon "??? it's much easier than boxing, so they decided to take a try in the lesser sport.

It's funny to even label these guys as some kind of " Martial artists " ..... ROFL hahahahahhaha, fuckin laughable...

Most of these guys can't even throw a proper kick and punch so how the fuck are they Martial artists??? lol Good post, while there are a few fighters in UFC that are more than just half assed street fighters, but the majority of them are a joke. Zelenoff punches with more technique than most of them, at least he dont throw punches with both of his eyes closed.

[Eastcoast]

Guys who aren't good enough for boxing are the ones who usually get into MMA. They first try boxing, but once they get their asses beat daily in sparring and realize how boxing takes much more skills and dedication, they decided to give MMA a try. " hey, why not shave my head, get some tatoos, and fight in the octagon "??? it's much easier than boxing, so they decided to take a try in the lesser sport.

It's funny to even label these guys as some kind of " Martial artists " ..... ROFL hahahahahhaha, fuckin laughable...

Most of these guys can't even throw a proper kick and punch so how the fuck are they Martial artists??? lol

I think there are plenty boxers out there at the top level who still haven't learned how to throw a proper punch, let alone defend themselves from one. Last night was a good example.

Boxing and MMA are like baseball and football. Different sports all together. Your not even allowed to wear shoes in MMA because of the added leverage it adds on a punch. Then if you were to hold your hands up high and commit to a proper punch, you better have fast hands with a strong delivery because you've just made yourself vulnerable to a number of different sh*t storms.

Next time people bring up boxing vs. MMA, might as well include arm wrestling aswell.

That said, nothing touches the sustained drama of a well fought boxing match.

[brimey]

I think Lacy is right. I live in Davenport, Iowa one of the biggest MMA centers in the world, and a lot of the furor has died down in just the last year. I think you will be able to see MMA on TV for quite a while but Dana Whites proclomations that boxing is dead and Joe Rogan shouthing "There will be no more new stars in boxing!" are certainly premature and untrue.

[Goose]

Dana White and those idiots who say that boxing is dead are all full of crap
Boxing and MMA are two different sports and could co-exist with one another. Both require tremendous amounts of skill and heart to successfully compete in these sports

[chimba]

MMA is a new sport relatively speaking...

unlike boxing skills are not filtered thru over a century of existence.

Boxing also focuses on specific skills while MMA focuses on a vast array

I give MMA that

But...the problem with MMA is that it has regressed..Instead of getting better the fights are getting worse.

People nowadays have no patience for two "supposed world class fighter" gassing after 2 minutes.

I havent seen a last 10 second of a fight rally since Grif/Bonnar

and please Karo...please finish a damn fight . I dont get it!

I'm tired of these guys going to Big Bear running in high altitude and gasses in 2 minutes

And please punch and kick at least 5 times a round.

The problem I think is that unlike Boxers who usually heads to the hospital after a fight..MMA guys are more interested in going to their post fight parties. There lies the problem

Hard to pay $40 bucks for that

It doesnt look good for MMA

[elTerrible]

I dont really see what the problem is.At the end of the day its his opinion and not much else.You can hardly call him a tool for voicing his view..


yeah hes a boxer and has been doing it almost all his life, of course he isnt going to think that highly of MMA.

I bet 90% of the NFL guys think rugby is a stupid and boring game, that doesnt mean theyre dumb or uninformed, its just their oppinion and you would expect a boxer to like boxing better than MMA or a foorball player to like US football better than rugby.

[elTerrible]

I think Lacy is right. I live in Davenport, Iowa one of the biggest MMA centers in the world, and a lot of the furor has died down in just the last year. I think you will be able to see MMA on TV for quite a while but Dana Whites proclomations that boxing is dead and Joe Rogan shouthing "There will be no more new stars in boxing!" are certainly premature and untrue.


Joe Rogan is a knuckleheaded cunt that knows fuck all about anything. He got into annoucing and reality show shit because his standup comedy is horrible and he couldnt make it big there.

[Beebs]

Good post, while there are a few fighters in UFC that are more than just half assed street fighters, but the majority of them are a joke. Zelenoff punches with more technique than most of them, at least he dont throw punches with both of his eyes closed.

Yea, except those all-american, national championship, and olympic wrestlers...just street fighters.

If its so easy, go try it and get some respect beat into you, fucking idiot.

[scurlaruntings]

Joe Rogan is a knuckleheaded cunt that knows fuck all about anything. He got into annoucing and reality show shit because his standup comedy is horrible and he couldnt make it big there.Joe is very knowledgeable on MMA and a Jujitsu brown belt.His only problem is his enthusiasm which just boils over uncontrollably, which is then eqaully increased by that prize fool Goldberg.

[achillesthegreat]

I dont really see what the problem is.At the end of the day its his opinion and not much else.You can hardly call him a tool for voicing his view..
I agree.

[ralphc]

I think Calzaghe may have scrambled Lacy's brain if he thinks MMA is not a sport.


I haven't been anywhere near Calzaghe.

[Chief_Second]

Jeff Lacey says calzaghe slaps and can't harm him

Jeff the visionary on the world!!!

[RUSKULL]

thats a terrible comparison, have you even tried Haagen Dasz?
Breyers is not even on the same level :yep

:rofl But true.

[ralphc]

Joe is very knowledgeable on MMA and a Jujitsu brown belt.His only problem is his enthusiasm which just boils over uncontrollably, which is then eqaully increased by that prize fool Goldberg.


....and he can shovel shit with the best of them

[RUSKULL]

Yea, except those all-american, national championship, and olympic wrestlers...just street fighters.

If its so easy, go try it and get some respect beat into you, fucking idiot.

:rofl :lol: :yep :rofl

[ralphc]

Yea, except those all-american, national championship, and olympic wrestlers...just street fighters.

If its so easy, go try it and get some respect beat into you, fucking idiot.



I have heard the announcers claim that just about everybody in ufc has 17th degree black belt in chop suey. Yet when I watch the action in the cage all I see is street fighters. I suppose that at the chop suey training academy they teach streetfighting also.

[chimba]

I have heard the announcers claim that just about everybody in ufc has 17th degree black belt in chop suey. Yet when I watch the action in the cage all I see is street fighters. I suppose that at the chop suey training academy they teach streetfighting also.

You know you are correct to some extent...But streetfighters will be more exciting. Diego and koschek are the most "decorated" fighters out there..so then throw a fuckin kick and punch..How many kicks did koscheck throw? How many takedowns for the greatest wrestling pedigree at WW? How many punches did "the nightmare" threw? This is what kills MMA...

[pugilistspecialist]

I do agree with him that boxing is the 2nd most popular sport in the world next to soccer - but the UFC is more popular in the USA (and probably always will be) b/c it's marketed to a crowd that boxing ostricized years ago. I also agree that, pound for pound, boxers are far superior atheletes than anybody in MMA. If these guys could cut it in one field (boxing, kickboxing or wrestling) they would compete there and make FAR more money. They can't cut it in one discipline, so they go into the "cage", which is carefully marketed to the same white boys that grew up watching Macho Man Randy Savage...

:good I said this a while ago, most MMA fighters couldnt succeed in a single fight discipline so they do MMA. Glass-jawwed silver glove winners who couldnt make it in the pros in boxing. Most MMA fighters couldnt barely throw a proper punch to save there lives.

[Ethan Trims]

yeah hes a boxer and has been doing it almost all his life, of course he isnt going to think that highly of MMA.

I bet 90% of the NFL guys think rugby is a stupid and boring game, that doesnt mean theyre dumb or uninformed, its just their oppinion and you would expect a boxer to like boxing better than MMA or a foorball player to like US football better than rugby.

You should look up the definition of of uninformed. Of course his opinion is stupid, he's talking out of his ass.

[dave_mur]

Never even heard of Breyers but haagen daaz is the win.
haagen daaz - ud 116 - 112

[theunderdog]

lacy is talking from experience. he was a fad too. look at how quickly he became obsolete