Naz offer to help Khan [Archive] - East Side Boxing Forum

Danny Boy

11-23-2007, 03:42 PM

The story is that Naseem Hamed has offered to give Amir some tips and possibly learn him some 'tricks'.

I'm not sure this would work. Naz and Amir are very different . Naz had natural power and was very unorthadox and I don't see that helping Amir's fighting style. Amir relies on his technique - his good jab and his genrally very good but by the book boxing style. If anything Naz can teach Amir about the mistakes he made in his own career. Binning Ingle and lack training before the biggest fight of his career against MAB spring to mind.

Tips on what not to do I can see helping but tips to make him fight like Hamed are a recipe for trouble in my opinion.

Any thoughts ?

The taff

11-23-2007, 03:52 PM

My tip would be for Amir to stay away. I think he should stay where he is and not get involved with Naz at all.

Danny Boy

11-23-2007, 03:57 PM

My tip would be for Amir to stay away. I think he should stay where he is and not get involved with Naz at all.

Is that because their styles are different or because of the problems Naz has had outside of the ring ?

elle

11-23-2007, 04:28 PM

Is that because their styles are different or because of the problems Naz has had outside of the ring ?

For both reasons - such different fighters, Naz was unconventional, more powerful and probably more naturally talented than Khan is.

The similarities unfortunately are outside the ring so I can't see Naz being a positive influence on Khan in this respect - he was a great boxer but hardly a good role model. Lets face it, they won't be swapping driving tips!

The biggest thing Khan could learn from Naz is how it could all go wrong. I think Khan would be wise to steer clear.

scurlaruntings

11-23-2007, 04:35 PM

stuey

11-23-2007, 04:51 PM

Bloody hell are you lot retarded? Naz was a unified world champ and achieved the pinnacle of greatness in boxing with a very unconventional style.His experience would be invaluable to ANY boxer let alone Khan.His style in terms of coaching Khan would have bugger all to do with anything.

bollox. this shows you know fuck all. you cannot take a guy who fights like khan and expect naz to be of any help training wise.
just like naz lost it when manny steward tried to correct him, khan would be knocked spark left right and centre if he fought like naz..

bratwurzt

11-23-2007, 05:40 PM

Perhaps Khan's already used him as a driving instructor.

PrideOfWales

11-23-2007, 05:48 PM

Ham-head has been there and done it - and completely threw away the latter part of his career. If he can get past his own ego, his advice would be useful to Khan. I don't like or trust Hamed one little bit though as a human being so would restrict communication to a written letter.

timber

11-24-2007, 06:58 AM

Perhaps Khan's already used him as a driving instructor.

:lol: :lol: :D

toffeejack

11-24-2007, 07:09 AM

Bad idea IMO.

Two completely different fighting styles, Naz relyed mainly on power, his unorthodox style and his amzing reflexes.

Would only speed up the inevitable exposure of Khan IMO.

unitas

11-24-2007, 07:22 AM

[quote=Danny Boy]The story is that Naseem Hamed has offered to give Amir some tips and possibly learn him some 'tricks'.

I'm not sure this would work. Naz and Amir are very different . Naz had natural power and was very unorthadox and I don't see that helping Amir's fighting style. Amir relies on his technique - his good jab and his genrally very good but by the book boxing style. If anything Naz can teach Amir about the mistakes he made in his own career. Binning Ingle and lack training before the biggest fight of his career against MAB spring to mind.

Tips on what not to do I can see helping but tips to make him fight like Hamed are a recipe for trouble in my opinion.

Any thoughts ?[/quote

how will he help khan?? turn him into a crossdresser???

Id stay away from that nutcase!!

The taff

11-24-2007, 07:35 AM

Bloody hell are you lot retarded? Naz was a unified world champ and achieved the pinnacle of greatness in boxing with a very unconventional style.His experience would be invaluable to ANY boxer let alone Khan.His style in terms of coaching Khan would have bugger all to do with anything.

Sorry i disagree. Naz had his own style - how will it be of benefit to Khan, when they fight completley different?? Yes naz's experience may be of benefit to Khan and he can give him some tips, but they are 2 different fighters.

Naz had awesome power, Amir doesn't. If he tries to emulate Naz, he will get Knocked out for sure.

Also i think hanging around with an Ego maniac wont be of any benefit to Khan, he will build up Khan up to be better than he really is.

The taff

11-24-2007, 07:35 AM

Perhaps Khan's already used him as a driving instructor.

:lol:

kurt2006

11-24-2007, 01:47 PM

Maybe they will go for a chin swap. Naz could take a decent shot and Amir really needs Naz's chin.

achillesthegreat

11-24-2007, 03:32 PM

Not sure its a good idea. Despite being fast and rangy I don't think Khan can do what Naz did. He doesn't have his durability, strength or power.

Mohak

11-24-2007, 08:42 PM

Perhaps Khan's already used him as a driving instructor.

:rofl

stuey

11-25-2007, 04:23 AM

Maybe they will go for a chin swap. Naz could take a decent shot and Amir really needs Naz's chin.

sorry:shock: naz was chinny as fuck, watch the kevin kenny fight and tell me naz had a good chin. he rode the shots well so he never got hit flush, but even grazing shots landed him on his arse

kurt2006

11-25-2007, 05:41 AM

sorry:shock: naz was chinny as fuck, watch the kevin kenny fight and tell me naz had a good chin. he rode the shots well so he never got hit flush, but even grazing shots landed him on his arse

Bollacks did they. Even when he was caught he was always up in a second, he never did the Zab chicken dance or the Amir bugaloo. The guy had amazing recovery powers, most the time he was on his arse was more to do with his balance due to the angles he threw his punches from.

stuey

11-25-2007, 06:03 AM

Bollacks did they. Even when he was caught he was always up in a second, he never did the Zab chicken dance or the Amir bugaloo. The guy had amazing recovery powers, most the time he was on his arse was more to do with his balance due to the angles he threw his punches from.

chinny. could not wear a shot without landing on his ass.

rooq

11-25-2007, 11:46 AM

chinny. could not wear a shot without landing on his ass.

i take chinny to mean being prone to getting hurt by shots, not just getting knocked over.

rydersonthestorm

11-25-2007, 11:56 AM

How was naz chinny anybody how gets hit when they are off balance is more then likely going to go down, i don't remeber him being hurt by these shots.

The Kurgan

11-25-2007, 12:25 PM

Perhaps Khan's already used him as a driving instructor.

:rofl

The Kurgan

11-25-2007, 12:26 PM

chinny. could not wear a shot without landing on his ass.

Does this mean you think Naz was robbed against Barrera, or that Barrera punches like a little girl?

achillesthegreat

11-25-2007, 12:53 PM

Naz chinny? Whoever thinks this has to be having a bubble.

Naidah

11-25-2007, 04:11 PM

sorry:shock: naz was chinny as fuck, watch the kevin kenny fight and tell me naz had a good chin. he rode the shots well so he never got hit flush, but even grazing shots landed him on his arse

I'm not a Hamed fan, never liked the guy from about 1996 onwards, but this comment is ridiculous.

I've seen Hamed get smacked with huge, flush punches, due to a lack of defence, yet not even blink. He never really wobbled, and whenever he was put down, he was straight back up, head clear, legs fine which indicated he never had a chin problem.

Naz's problem was his balance was poor. Anyone who's ever been in a ring will know the difference between poor balance and a poor chin, no actually you don't even have to have been in ring, just watch and use some common sense.

Outboxer

11-25-2007, 05:11 PM

Naz, chinny?

Ridiculous thing to say.

Naz's problem was his balance was poor. Anyone who's ever been in a ring will know the difference between poor balance and a poor chin, no actually you don't even have to have been in ring, just watch and use some common sense.

Exactly. Naz would lean/sway away from punches in such a way that if he was even tapped the momentum would take him to the canvas because of the horrible balance. If anything, Naz's chin was good -- he was never knocked out and he NEVER looked as hurt as Khan looked against Limond.

Naidah

11-27-2007, 06:22 PM

Naz, chinny?

Ridiculous thing to say.

Exactly. Naz would lean/sway away from punches in such a way that if he was even tapped the momentum would take him to the canvas because of the horrible balance. If anything, Naz's chin was good -- he was never knocked out and he NEVER looked as hurt as Khan looked against Limond.

Yep, this is very true and very worrying as far as Amir Khan is concerned. Hamed went through his whole career without really being in serious trouble, yet Khan is down and badly hurt in only his 12/13th fight against pretty light puncher.

Khan might be Herbie Hide-esq in the whiskers department.

stuey

11-27-2007, 06:29 PM

sorry but i still say naz was chinny, he never got stopped because of his fantastic head movement and uncanny abilty to ride punches, but when he got clipped, he went over, simple as...

bill poster

11-27-2007, 06:30 PM

Naz had a great chin. Sure he got knocked down a few times but he always looked embarrassed not hurt!

ps is he giving khan driving lessons?

stuey

11-27-2007, 06:31 PM

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4.30...nothing shot, on his ass..

stuey

11-27-2007, 06:35 PM

What on how to end up in prison by the times hes 25?.:think Lets face it from the way Amir's been driving lately it looks like hes given him some tips.

hello princess. where you been?