Future of Boxing - fighters under 25 only

[PowerPuncher]

Around 2003, I made a thread like this talking about future P4P stars based on their age etc, I picked Pacman and Taylor to be top P4Pers (many said Pac was too 1 dimensional and Taylor wasn't good enough).

So now Mayweather/Hatton/Delahoya/Wlad/Pacman are nearer the end of their careers who are the future P4P stars THAT ARE UNDER 25 AND NOT P4P ALREADY?????

1. Chad Dawson (24) - very skilled, already beat many peoples no1 HW in Adamek, could be P4P with the right fights in the next 2-3years

2. Povetki (27) - hey hes 25 in heavyweight years :D, huge prospect - next HW champ?

3. Paul Williams (25) - young and HUGE at 147, his next fight will tell us ALLOT whether he'll make it or not, as he has technical weaknesses but many champs have done. If he beats Margarito he may go on to be a great

4. Boystov (21) - looks like the russian tyson

5. Juan Diaz (23) - only 23 and already isn't too far away. He has some excellent scalps particularly in his Freitas win and has been a belt holder for 2years already. He should stay at lightweight and clean house though because a move up to 140 would be too much for him

6. Romanov (24) - also at lightweight, not the most active fighter sadly but with plenty of talent and a big puncher reminicent of Tyszu. Was pretty rusty for his 1 loss and it was a close call (I had him winning)

7. Valero (25) - quite raw but brutal power, if he gets a shot at Pacman and wins (which he may do) he jumps into the P4P rankings.

8. Bautista (21) - already fighting Deleon for the 122 WBO belt. Certainly has a big future if he can pass his acid test. Some questions were asked last time out and his big punch didnt look quite as amazing

The best prospects look to be over 25 but this thread is for those under. Who are your picks? :bbb

[Smith]

+David Haye - Future CW linear champ & HW Title holder
+Juan Diaz - Be around the lighties for a long time, great chance.
+Travis Simms(ok ok he's 36 but he was a late starter, so in boxing term's he's 25:yep) - Can beat ANYONE from 47 to 54 on a given night, will he get his chance though?

[Tom_Tocca]

Kelly Pavlik?

[heerko koois]

Julio Cesar Chavez jr .....

[Tom_Tocca]

Marco Huck, future conqueror of David Haye ;)

[PowerPuncher]

Kelly Pavlik?

Could be but I personally see him getting exposed

[1boricua]

Juan Manuel Lopez (Puerto Rico)

[PowerPuncher]

+David Haye - Future CW linear champ & HW Title holder
+Juan Diaz - Be around the lighties for a long time, great chance.
+Travis Simms(ok ok he's 36 but he was a late starter, so in boxing term's he's 25:yep) - Can beat ANYONE from 47 to 54 on a given night, will he get his chance though?

How did I forget Haye? Could be a future HW champ, he won't be at Cruser for long.

Simms looks worldclass but maybe he'll be shot before he gets a big fight. Much like Junior Witter at 140

[PowerPuncher]

Juan Manuel Lopez (Puerto Rico)

hes 1 thats gone under my radar what can you tell me about him??

[1boricua]

Juan Manuel Lopez is gonna be a superstar in 3 years.

Sex Male
Nationality Puerto Rican
Alias Juanma
Birth Name Juan Manuel López Rivera
Global ID 291928
Federal ID PR049005
Hometown Caguas, Puerto Rico
Birthplace Rio Piedras, Puerto Rico
Rated at Super BantamweightWorld
Rank 21 / 727
Date of Birth 1983-06-30
Age 24
Reach 68
Stance Southpaw
Height 5' 7
Trainer Alex CaraballoManager Orlando Piñero ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
W 18 (16 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 18
Lb St:Lb Kg | Date [Only registered and activated users can see links] | [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) | Wiki [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) </B>

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])122Giovanni Andrade ([Only registered and activated users can see links])12254-10-0Coliseo José Miguel Agrelot, San Juan, Puerto Rico WTKO1 12[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 2:59 | Referee: Luis Pabón | Judge: Elliot Rosa | Judge: Nelson Vázquez | Judge: Jose R. Torres ~
~ WBO Latino Super Bantamweight Title ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])121¾Jorge Otero ([Only registered and activated users can see links])121¾17-8-2Coliseo Universidad del Norte, Barranquilla, Atlántico, Colombia WTKO7 10[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])123Leivi Brea ([Only registered and activated users can see links])12216-3-3Coliseo Roberto Clemente, San Juan, Puerto Rico WTKO2 10[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 2:24 | Referee: Luis Pabón ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])123Cuauhtemoc Vargas ([Only registered and activated users can see links])12315-1-1Dodge Arena, Phoenix, AZ, USA WRTD6 10[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 3:00 | Referee: Robert Ferrara | Judge: Joe Garcia | Judge: Craig Harmon | Judge: Chris Wilson ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])121½Jose Alonso ([Only registered and activated users can see links])12231-10-2Coliseo Héctor Solá Bezares, Caguas, Puerto Rico WTKO3 12[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 2:59 | Referee: Jose H. Rivera ~
~ Vacant WBO Latino Bantamweight Title ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])122Edel Ruiz ([Only registered and activated users can see links])122¼28-14-4Mohegan Sun Casino, Uncasville, CT, USA WRTD7 8[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 0:02 | Referee: Johnny Callas | Judge: George Smith | Judge: Frank Lombardi | Judge: Clark Sammartino ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])121¼Sergio Mendez ([Only registered and activated users can see links])120½5-0-0Madison Square Garden, New York, NY, USA WUD6 6[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Referee: Samuel Viruet | Judge: Robin Taylor 60-54 | Judge: Tony Paolillo 60-54 | Judge: John McKaie 60-54 ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])124Alberto Chuc ([Only registered and activated users can see links])123¾9-6-0Coliseo Pedrín Zorrilla, San Juan, Puerto Rico WTKO6 10[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 0:02 | Referee: Luis Pabón | Judge: Samuel Conde | Judge: Cesar Ramos | Judge: Jose R. Torres ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])Gilberto Bolanos ([Only registered and activated users can see links])4-9-1Coliseo Ruben Rodriguez, Bayamon, Puerto Rico WUD8 8[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Judge: Samuel Conde 79-73 ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])123½Jose Luis Caro ([Only registered and activated users can see links])1260-3-0Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV, USA WKO3 6[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 1:44 | Referee: Joe Cortez | Judge: Adalaide Byrd 20-17 | Judge: Burt Clements 20-17 | Judge: Patricia Morse Jarman 20-17 ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])125Manuel Sarabia ([Only registered and activated users can see links])12415-16-6Coliseo Roberto Clemente, San Juan, Puerto Rico WTKO1 6[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 2:50 ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])124½Luis Bolano ([Only registered and activated users can see links])12841-4-0Coliseo Pedrín Zorrilla, Hato Rey, Puerto Rico WTKO2 6[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 3:00 | Referee: Jose H. Rivera | Judge: Raul Nieves | Judge: Cesar Ramos | Judge: Samuel Conde ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])120½Roberto Chacon ([Only registered and activated users can see links])121½11-5-1Coliseo Pedrin Zorrilla, San Juan, Puerto Rico WKO1 6[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 2:10 | Referee: Luis Pabón | Judge: Samuel Conde | Judge: Raul Nieves | Judge: Nelson Vázquez ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])120Charles Jones ([Only registered and activated users can see links])1192-3-0Auditorio Juan Vicens, Ponce, Puerto Rico WKO1 4[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 3:00 ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])121½Eric Nemo ([Only registered and activated users can see links])121¼5-0-1Madison Square Garden, New York, NY, USA WTKO3 4[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 1:23 | Referee: Benjy Esteves Jr. ~

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])137Efrain Perez ([Only registered and activated users can see links])1-0-0Coliseo Jose Miguel Agrelot, Hato Rey, Puerto Rico WKO1 4[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])123Ivan Cordero ([Only registered and activated users can see links])0-2-0Coliseo Ruben Rodriguez, Bayamon, Puerto Rico WKO1 4[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])122Luis Colon ([Only registered and activated users can see links])121¼0-0-0Rubén Rodriguez Coliseum, Bayamon, Puerto Rico WKO1 4[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ~ Time: 1:06 ~

[Smith]

How did I forget Haye? Could be a future HW champ, he won't be at Cruser for long.

Simms looks worldclass but maybe he'll be shot before he gets a big fight. Much like Junior Witter at 140

:good for Haye, as for Simms, i'm hoping as he was a late entrant he'll still be fresh for at least 3 years, but that may be all he has!

Marco Huck, future conqueror of David Haye :wink:

He's a shout as well, but future conqueror of David, youre tripping:yep

[Odo]

Around 2003, I made a thread like this talking about future P4P stars based on their age etc, I picked Pacman and Taylor to be top P4Pers (many said Pac was too 1 dimensional and Taylor wasn't good enough).

So now Mayweather/Hatton/Delahoya/Wlad/Pacman are nearer the end of their careers who are the future P4P stars THAT ARE UNDER 25 AND NOT P4P ALREADY?????

1. Chad Dawson (24) - very skilled, already beat many peoples no1 HW in Adamek, could be P4P with the right fights in the next 2-3years

2. Povetki (27) - hey hes 25 in heavyweight years :D, huge prospect - next HW champ?

3. Paul Williams (25) - young and HUGE at 147, his next fight will tell us ALLOT whether he'll make it or not, as he has technical weaknesses but many champs have done. If he beats Margarito he may go on to be a great

4. Boystov (21) - looks like the russian tyson

5. Juan Diaz (23) - only 23 and already isn't too far away. He has some excellent scalps particularly in his Freitas win and has been a belt holder for 2years already. He should stay at lightweight and clean house though because a move up to 140 would be too much for him

6. Romanov (24) - also at lightweight, not the most active fighter sadly but with plenty of talent and a big puncher reminicent of Tyszu. Was pretty rusty for his 1 loss and it was a close call (I had him winning)

7. Valero (25) - quite raw but brutal power, if he gets a shot at Pacman and wins (which he may do) he jumps into the P4P rankings.

8. Bautista (21) - already fighting Deleon for the 122 WBO belt. Certainly has a big future if he can pass his acid test. Some questions were asked last time out and his big punch didnt look quite as amazing

The best prospects look to be over 25 but this thread is for those under. Who are your picks? :bbb


Watch out for the young Chechen Zaurbek Baysangurov who fights on the undercard of Wlad vs Brewster.He looks like a sure bet for a future title holder.Great and very promising talent!

[Smith]

1boricua, was hoping you would put a personal spin on Juan, anyone can look on boxrec

[Tom_Tocca]

I totally forgot about one of my favs, Zaurbek Baysangurov (thanks for the reminder, Odo).

He is a thread to the whole jr. middlweight division and will be a big player at middleweight in the future.

I will watch his European Championship bout next week live in Cologne...

[1boricua]

1boricua, was hoping you would put a personal spin on Juan, anyone can look on boxrec

OK man, Juanma is a combination of the Felix Trinidad punching power with the boxing ability of Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez. He has the talent to be better than Trinidad and Cotto. Truely is a new version of Wilfredo Gomez.

[DaHead242]

Andre Berto

[Odo]

I totally forgot about one of my favs, Zaurbek Baysangurov (thanks for the reminder, Odo).

He is a thread to the whole jr. middlweight division and will be a big player at middleweight in the future.

I will watch his European Championship bout next week live in Cologne...

Have a pleasant and entertaing fight night there,tom!

Would have loved to watch Brewster vs Wlad,and Baysangurov vs Bayram live,too.
I will watch Suda vs Neferi,and Abraham vs Gevor live.

[Tom_Tocca]

Have a pleasant and entertaing fight night there,tom!

Would have loved to watch Brewster vs Wlad,and Baysangurov vs Bayram live,too.
I will watch Suda vs Neferi,and Abraham vs Gevor live.

I will also attend Abraham - Gevor live in Berlin... :hi:

[Sizzle]

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr looks excellent.

Chad Dawson is an easy one to pick, he's already just about proved himself as the No.1 lightheavyweight in the world.
(Considering Hopkins stepped down)

David Haye looks good - I think he can and will beat Mormeck, but how much he accomplishes at heavyweight is something I'm not confident enough to predict just yet.

I didn't think Bautista looked anything special, same goes with Pavlik - Haven't had a chance to watch Boytsov.

Diaz looks fundamentally excellent but decidedly unspectacular. I expect him to do well but pick up a few losses against top level competition.

[T.S.]

44 year old Holyfield can whip 99.9 percent of all heavyweights on the planet 25 or younger. :yep

[PacDbest]

pavlik
Bautista
AJ Banal
Victor Ortiz

[Relentless]

miguel cotto

[Marnoff]

Andre Berto.

[DaHead242]

miguel cotto

he's 26

[Relentless]

1 year wont make a big difference.

[Bad_Intentions]

Kelly Pavlik?kelly is 25 years old.

[Bad_Intentions]

Around 2003, I made a thread like this talking about future P4P stars based on their age etc, I picked Pacman and Taylor to be top P4Pers (many said Pac was too 1 dimensional and Taylor wasn't good enough).

So now Mayweather/Hatton/Delahoya/Wlad/Pacman are nearer the end of their careers who are the future P4P stars THAT ARE UNDER 25 AND NOT P4P ALREADY?????

1. Chad Dawson (24) - very skilled, already beat many peoples no1 HW in Adamek, could be P4P with the right fights in the next 2-3years

2. Povetki (27) - hey hes 25 in heavyweight years :D, huge prospect - next HW champ?

3. Paul Williams (25) - young and HUGE at 147, his next fight will tell us ALLOT whether he'll make it or not, as he has technical weaknesses but many champs have done. If he beats Margarito he may go on to be a great

4. Boystov (21) - looks like the russian tyson

5. Juan Diaz (23) - only 23 and already isn't too far away. He has some excellent scalps particularly in his Freitas win and has been a belt holder for 2years already. He should stay at lightweight and clean house though because a move up to 140 would be too much for him

6. Romanov (24) - also at lightweight, not the most active fighter sadly but with plenty of talent and a big puncher reminicent of Tyszu. Was pretty rusty for his 1 loss and it was a close call (I had him winning)

7. Valero (25) - quite raw but brutal power, if he gets a shot at Pacman and wins (which he may do) he jumps into the P4P rankings.

8. Bautista (21) - already fighting Deleon for the 122 WBO belt. Certainly has a big future if he can pass his acid test. Some questions were asked last time out and his big punch didnt look quite as amazing

The best prospects look to be over 25 but this thread is for those under. Who are your picks? :bbbyou forgot peter quillin. :good

[brooklyn1550]

Andy Lee
Johnathon Banks
Vernon Paris

[Sonny Carson]

Andy Lee
Johnathon Banks
Vernon Paris
Vernon Paris is a future star he's only 19 hard as hell to hit.

[brooklyn1550]

Vernon Paris is a future star he's only 19 hard as hell to hit.

I saw him fight a few times (live once and on TV) and he is very elusive indeed.

Ted Sares said he hasn't seen moves like Paris since a young Pernell Whitaker and Doug Fischer said he is like a poor man's Floyd Mayweather.

To early to tell I guess, but he's got potential

[SkillsSoSmooth]

Yoan Pablo Hernandez

Darnell Jiles Jr (the next Mayweather imo)

Anthony Patterson

T. Munyai

[C7LBT]

amir khan

[DoumB]

Lucian Bute.

[Asterion]

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Ray Bautista
Amir Kahn
Juan Diaz
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Andre Berto
Vernon Paris
Andre Ward
Chad Dawson
Marco Huck
Alexander Alexeev
Denis Boytsov (if his health is ok)



David Haye is 26. Cotto and Povetkin are 27 already. Paul Williams is 25. Kelly Pavlik is also 25.

[Tom_Tocca]

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Ray Bautista
Amir Kahn
Juan Diaz
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Andre Berto
Vernon Paris
Andre Ward
Chad Dawson
Marco Huck
Alexander Alexeev
Denis Boytsov (if his health is ok)



David Haye is 26. Cotto and Povetkin are 27 already. Paul Williams is 25. Kelly Pavlik is also 25.

You forgot Zaurbek Baysangurov...

[Charles187]

Amir Khan

[Asterion]

You forgot Zaurbek Baysangurov...


Who is he? :D


I also forgot that Cotto is actually 26, not 27. :patsch

[BigReg]

Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s kid. I believe he is about 5 or 6. He's got a good jab and a hell of a left hook. Watch out for this kid in the next 15 years.

[brooklyn1550]

Has anybody seen the kid who Jose Aguire interviews? I think his name is Bruce Carrington...he's little, but good. I wonder how his amateur career will go.

[Tom_Tocca]

Who is he? :D


I also forgot that Cotto is actually 26, not 27. :patsch

former amateur jr. world champion, former ibf jr. world champion, undefeated in 15 fights (12 KOs), 5th ranked by the WBC, 22 years old, schooled Marco Antonio Rubio in his last fight.

He's ranked in the 154 lbs division.

[OBCboxer]

Denis Boytsov is good if you look at his record, in his first 17 fights is much like Tyson's record.

Boytsov: [Only registered and activated users can see links]
Tyson: [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Melo]

you forgot peter quillin. :good
:thumbsup Thanks, I was trying to remember this guy's name, I was very impressed by this kid.

Other obvious candidates:

Andre Berto
Amir Khan
JCC Jr.

I can't really speak on the eastern europeans mentioned, as I haven't seen them in action...

[madjabber]

Doesnt Julio Ceaser Chavez have another son besides junior that fights? I heard that kid is one to watch.

I also agree Peter Quillin future P4 Pounder
Julio Ceaser Chavez jr
Rey Buatista
Z Gorres
Juan Manuel Lopez
Andre Berto