View Full Version : When and why was the cruiserweight limit moved from 190 to 200 lbs?
doublesuited
07-01-2007, 12:08 PM
Was it met with approval, disapproval, or indifference?
TBooze
07-01-2007, 12:14 PM
It seemed fairly logical, which is strange for alphabet crap.
It happened about two years ago.
It was done because Heavyweights are getting bigger, so it was considered a way to attract the small heavies to the division....
Of course it never works because normally there is a lot more ££££ or $$$$ in a Heavyweight fight!
enquirer
07-01-2007, 12:14 PM
I dont really know,but it means that todays heavyweight division wouldnt include dempsey,the rock,fitzimmons and a few other guys of that ilk...
TBooze
07-01-2007, 12:58 PM
Why is there even a cruiserweight division?
Well where else are lazy Light Heavies going to fight?
achillesthegreat
07-01-2007, 01:04 PM
It wasn't clever. It got rid of guys who would be or at least start off as smaller heavies. Quality fighters like Mormeck, Haye, Maccranelli, Bell may be gracing the heavies had they not been given a ten pound breather.
Plus it pushed cruiser and heavy further away from 175s. 25 pounds is too much. 15 pounds for men of that size was ok. I think because of this alot of 175 pounders aren't going north because cruiser is shit and heavyweight is now 25 pounds away. This is changing history because historically most 175s take a stab at heavy.
Club Fighter
07-01-2007, 01:09 PM
You'll probably be surprised to know that the WBO Cruiserweight limit is still 190 lbs.
boxexpert
07-01-2007, 03:56 PM
is that so? WBO cruiser still 190 lbs??
The Kurgan
07-01-2007, 05:53 PM
People met it with indifference because no-one cares about cruiserweights. Personally, I think the current cruiserweight top 5 (Bell, Mormeck, Wilson, Haye and Cunningham) are the most evenly matched and exciting top 5 in any division today. It is true that, were 200 lbs not the limit, we probably wouldn't have most of that top 5 in the cruiserweight division.
I'd ideally like to see the cruiserweight division carved up between the light-heavyweights and the heavyweights. A 185 light-heavyweight limit would populate what has become a very sparse and uninspired class. A lighter heavyweight division might inspire some of the smaller heavyweights to get into a better condition, which will be better for being competitive with the big slugs of the heavyweight division.
hopkinsfan07
07-01-2007, 05:58 PM
i like the cruiserweight divison i think its a good divison with good fighters
TBooze
07-01-2007, 08:14 PM
i like the cruiserweight divison i think its a good divison with good fighters
Let me guess, you are a Bastard? ;)
No offence intended, it jsut that Cruiserweight are to 80s babies the bastard division
Mendoza
07-02-2007, 06:28 AM
Was it met with approval, disapproval, or indifference?
The cruiser weight division is rather good these days. Honest. The fights have been great. The effective weight of cruiser weights is now 185-210 pounds. Historically speaking this weight range has produced great fights.
Like other divisions, a man can lose 10 pounds of water weight before the weigh in, and then re-hydrate to his normal weight for fight night.
In essence the new 200 pound cruiser weight limit has given fighters with a natural best weight in the low 200’s a chance to compete against men their own size, and not against 240 pound giants.
heerko koois
07-02-2007, 06:30 AM
is that so? WBO cruiser still 190 lbs??
You are some boxing expert..........:lol:
CASH_718
07-02-2007, 06:31 AM
You'll probably be surprised to know that the WBO Cruiserweight limit is still 190 lbs.Then how come Enzo Mac weighed in at 200 pounds vs Bobby Gunn(195lbs)???
CASH_718
07-02-2007, 06:33 AM
It wasn't clever. It got rid of guys who would be or at least start off as smaller heavies. Quality fighters like Mormeck, Haye, Maccranelli, Bell may be gracing the heavies had they not been given a ten pound breather.
Plus it pushed cruiser and heavy further away from 175s. 25 pounds is too much. 15 pounds for men of that size was ok. I think because of this alot of 175 pounders aren't going north because cruiser is shit and heavyweight is now 25 pounds away. This is changing history because historically most 175s take a stab at heavy.If those guys were going to fight heavyweights then they would probably weigh over 200 pounds anyway the weight change didn't change that.
CASH_718
07-02-2007, 06:36 AM
The guys who really suffer from the change are guys like Wayne Braithwaite who are to big to get down to 175 and now are to small for these mini giants like Haye, Jones, Mac, Mormeck ect.
Braithwaite's career turned to shit after the change.
Bummy Davis
07-02-2007, 06:59 AM
Ex Light heavys and middleweights keep moving up and winning the titles, so they wanted to bring in bigger men who are not in the Super class
Fitir
07-02-2007, 07:42 AM
The guys who really suffer from the change are guys like Wayne Braithwaite who are to big to get down to 175 and now are to small for these mini giants like Haye, Jones, Mac, Mormeck ect.
Braithwaite's career turned to shit after the change. Mormeck is a small cruiser. He is also a natural LHW and he fought at middle as an amateur. He came at cruiser cause he would have never obtained a chance at LHW. The only french promoter Acaries had the WBA titleholder Girard under contract and he wanted to protect his belt, Mormeck had refused to sign with Acaries and he was a big threat... Mormeck would have destroyed Bruno Girard imo and he would have been a very decent LHW titleholder. Mormeck vs Adamek, Mormeck vs Tarver or Mormeck vs G.Johnson etc. would have been good fights.
Sonny's jab
07-02-2007, 10:07 AM
I remember it happened no long after Roy Jones Jr. , 193, beat John Ruiz, 226, for the WBA heavyweight championship.
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