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ipswich express
11-26-2007, 07:40 PM
Here's episode 2... [Only registered and activated users can see links] Makes for great viewing. Hatton's going to give Mayweather a helluva fight. He's extremely focused, to say the least.

Dr Gonzo
11-26-2007, 08:00 PM
i didnt realise PBF had so many health issues

hatton is in great shape and seems to be insanely focused to say the least

maco_187
11-26-2007, 09:36 PM
awesome stuff, im still backing mayweather though but hatton was funny saying lets his the pads how he does then doing a bunch of slaps and hand movements that mimmick mayweather and saying i can punch for a whole fortnight like this... hes a character hatton thats for suree... both are actually... fukn mayweathers family has lost the plot lol.... roger looks out of it...

IrnBruMan
11-26-2007, 09:47 PM
cheers for that ipswich, much appreciated! :good

Mayweather would have to be one of the most uncharismatic people I've ever come across...he simply isn't funny, but doesn't seem to realise it, and with all of his yesmen surrounding him, he doesn't know any better.

I picked Hatton to win this some time ago - he's a jovial enough bloke but he's got that inner mongrel that comes out when he steps in the ring, and I think he's going to be more fired up than ever for this fight.

PBF's going to hurt his hands on Hatton, and Hatton is going to shut him down :yep

Hatton will brutalise him!

MSTR
11-26-2007, 10:26 PM
As much as i would like Hatton to win based on personality, Mayweather will beat him based on both natural and technical ability. It will be closer then a lot of people on ESB, I have picked an 8-4 UD. To beat Mayweather you need to use effective pressure, in other words, being patient, tight defensively and picking your times to fire combinations at him. Hatton will give Floyd too many opporunities to counter punch, and Hatton IMO will not fight SMART enough to win. Floyd will need to keep his offense active though to take this one out. If he doesn't throw back enough Hatton will simply over whelm him. Especially if PBF is employing the shoulder role, as it is very hard to punch back with when defending against combinations. Hatton squares himself up inside far too often, so watch for the uppercuts from floyd on the inside, and the lateral movement on the ropes from Hatton to prevent Floyd from getting out. Floyd will use his jab, right hand lead and counter/lead left hook primarily, as well as mixing in his lead and counter uppercuts occasionally at range. Hatton will most likely be looking to do 95% of his offense from the inside, and will be coming in behind quick jabs and hooks, moving his head when floyd throws and trying to smother his offense with his guard held high on the way in. I think Floyd will start out moving well, and will take the first couple. I think during the middle rounds Hatton will start to come on, taking most through workrate, although Floyd will still be landing crisp fast counters. Come the latter rounds Floyds shots, especially the jab will start to slow Hatton down, and Floyd will pick his offense up to take the majoirty of the latter rounds and walk away with the win.

Dr Gonzo
11-26-2007, 10:44 PM
As much as i would like Hatton to win based on personality, Mayweather will beat him based on both natural and technical ability. It will be closer then a lot of people on ESB, I have picked an 8-4 UD. To beat Mayweather you need to use effective pressure, in other words, being patient, tight defensively and picking your times to fire combinations at him. Hatton will give Floyd too many opporunities to counter punch, and Hatton IMO will not fight SMART enough to win. Floyd will need to keep his offense active though to take this one out. If he doesn't throw back enough Hatton will simply over whelm him. Especially if PBF is employing the shoulder role, as it is very hard to punch back with when defending against combinations. Hatton squares himself up inside far too often, so watch for the uppercuts from floyd on the inside, and the lateral movement on the ropes from Hatton to prevent Floyd from getting out. Floyd will use his jab, right hand lead and counter/lead left hook primarily, as well as mixing in his lead and counter uppercuts occasionally at range. Hatton will most likely be looking to do 95% of his offense from the inside, and will be coming in behind quick jabs and hooks, moving his head when floyd throws and trying to smother his offense with his guard held high on the way in. I think Floyd will start out moving well, and will take the first couple. I think during the middle rounds Hatton will start to come on, taking most through workrate, although Floyd will still be landing crisp fast counters. Come the latter rounds Floyds shots, especially the jab will start to slow Hatton down, and Floyd will pick his offense up to take the majoirty of the latter rounds and walk away with the win.

thats a great analysis - but i dont even think Hatton will win 3 rounds. Dont get me wrong, i like the guy and i like his style, but Floyd is going to totally shut him out. Too fast, too much skill, too smart and better footwork. I predict 10 rounds to 2 Floyd UD.

MSTR
11-26-2007, 11:40 PM
thats a great analysis - but i dont even think Hatton will win 3 rounds. Dont get me wrong, i like the guy and i like his style, but Floyd is going to totally shut him out. Too fast, too much skill, too smart and better footwork. I predict 10 rounds to 2 Floyd UD.

Jesus Chavez fought Mayweather in a very similar fashion to how Hatton will. He stayed on the chest of Floyd, and tried to overwhelm him with offense. Chavez ended up winning about 2-3 rounds off Floyd before being stopped in the 9th. Now Chavez is neither as big, as fast as strong or as good as Hatton. And Mayweather was fighting at 135 which is much closer to his natural weight. At 147, a very fit, focused Hatton can surely do a couple rounds better then this, if the fight goes the distance (very high chance). That is my thoughts anyway. What a lot of people are underestimating is just how defensive floyd becomes in the face of a very active offense. He almost refuses to be hit, to hit, and as such against a very active puncher will lose rounds simply due to inactivity in stages. Hatton will brutally attack the body, and because Floyd uses his arms to defend, it prevents him often times from firing back (as seen when Oscar flurried). Against a fighter who stays throwing, wrestling and moving right on chest this will be even more apparent. Mayweather cannot move the whole fight, and at some point will have to fight Ricky off the ropes, and this is where Ricky will pick up some points. Like I said, overall Mayweather, but don't expect a shut out.

ipswich express
11-27-2007, 12:11 AM
The one thing I like about Hatton in this fight is that unlike DLH he won't go head hunting. Floyd is damn near impossible to tag upstairs, but your body doesn't move. When Hatton goes downstairs, he might not necessarily hit PBF's ribs but he'll be hitting something. I'm hoping that Hatton's management were clever enough to negotiate a normal sized ring. It could play a big part.

Words
11-27-2007, 12:21 AM
Jesus Chavez fought Mayweather in a very similar fashion to how Hatton will. He stayed on the chest of Floyd, and tried to overwhelm him with offense. Chavez ended up winning about 2-3 rounds off Floyd before being stopped in the 9th. Now Chavez is neither as big, as fast as strong or as good as Hatton. And Mayweather was fighting at 135 which is much closer to his natural weight. At 147, a very fit, focused Hatton can surely do a couple rounds better then this, if the fight goes the distance (very high chance). That is my thoughts anyway. What a lot of people are underestimating is just how defensive floyd becomes in the face of a very active offense. He almost refuses to be hit to hit, and as such against a very active puncher will loose rounds simply due to inactivity in stages. Hatton will brutally attack the body, and because Floyd uses his arms to defend, it prevents him often times from firing back (as seen when Oscar flurried). Against a fighter who stays throwing, wrestling and moving right on chest this will be even more apparent. Mayweather cannot move the whole fight, and at some point will have to fight Ricky off the ropes, and this is where Ricky will pick up some points. Like I said, overall Mayweather, but don't expect a shut out.

Well said. If Floyd closes up shop, especially on the ropes, Hatton will pick up rounds on workrate and persistance alone. Floyd always starts slow, and comes on strong down the stretch after he's figured a guy out properly. But if he does that with Hatton, and Hatton gets the first 2 rounds under his belt and gets in control, then Mayweather might have problems later in the fight. He might have to drastically step it up mid-fight and start trading toe-to-toe, which he can do but I'm sure anyone who knows boxings knows that if this fight becomes a war that favours Hatton. This is the scenario that excites me most about the fight, because Ricky Hatton is exactly the sort of fighter who can bring out that side of Floyd, make him put it all on the line and dig deep.

If Floyd starts fast though, and gets comfortable early, Hatton will have a hard time shaking Mayweather's ryhtym. If Floyd can move well and stay out of trouble, and offer Hatton some real resistance when a fight breaks out, he will get into cruise control and win by 8-4. Hatton's chin, heart and workrate keep it interesting, but Floyd wins. This is the scenarious I fear coz I want Hatton to win.

Honestly I can see it going two ways, 60/40 in favour of scenario 2, but much closer than most of the pbf nuthuggers make out.

planetzion
11-27-2007, 12:40 AM
thanks mate legend effort

MSTR
11-27-2007, 12:54 AM
The one thing I like about Hatton in this fight is that unlike DLH he won't go head hunting. Floyd is damn near impossible to tag upstairs, but your body doesn't move. When Hatton goes downstairs, he might not necessarily hit PBF's ribs but he'll be hitting something. I'm hoping that Hatton's management were clever enough to negotiate a normal sized ring. It could play a big part.

Oscar was throwing a lot to the body though also especially in his flurries, and then going upstairs afterwards. Fact is, Hatton doesn't possess the power, reach, jab or hand speed that Oscar does either. Oscar was more patient, picking his opporunities where as Hatton will come in throwing more frequently, but also leaving himself more open.

ipswich express
11-27-2007, 01:03 AM
In those last couple of rounds, DLH did two things, IMO. Abandoned his body attack and stopped throwing his jab. He had the fight with in his grasp, but he couldn't sustain his attack, one thing Hatton will be able to do. My only disagreement with your analysis (which was a great read!) is that Hatton needs to be on Floyd all the time. Backing him up and not letting him plant his feet. When he does this, he pot shots beautifully, and Ricky can't afford that. Hatton's jab is pretty underrated IMO. I'm not saying he'll continuously find Mayweather with it, but it might be enough to start Floyd backpeddling.

MSTR
11-27-2007, 01:23 AM
In those last couple of rounds, DLH did two things, IMO. Abandoned his body attack and stopped throwing his jab. He had the fight with in his grasp, but he couldn't sustain his attack, one thing Hatton will be able to do. My only disagreement with your analysis (which was a great read!) is that Hatton needs to be on Floyd all the time. Backing him up and not letting him plant his feet. When he does this, he pot shots beautifully, and Ricky can't afford that. Hatton's jab is pretty underrated IMO. I'm not saying he'll continuously find Mayweather with it, but it might be enough to start Floyd backpeddling.

Fair enough, Oscar did have the fight within his grasp, and did stop throwing the jab most importantly, but his body attack ceased also. These were his two biggest weapons in the early rounds. I think Ricky does have an under rated jab, although its not as good as Oscars, and not as good as Floyds. Plus being a shorter figher, FLoyd should have the reach on him. If Hatton can keep him backing up he can win, but it will be hard to do without eating crisp counter punches on the way IMO. Regardless, should be an excellent fight. Even though both guys do fight ugly at times, I think the contrast of styles should make this a very interesting fight.

Kegsy
11-27-2007, 02:05 AM
Episode 1 i found way more entertaining than episode 2.
Hopefully 3 is enjoyable like the 1st.

justin23
11-27-2007, 04:40 AM
mate ur a star bn searchin for it think hbo spat the dummy and took em off youtube...cheers bud

T.C.W
11-27-2007, 05:31 AM
Thank you guys for that, I can't wait for this fight.

raff
11-27-2007, 06:07 AM
go ricky!!!!!

teke
11-27-2007, 12:30 PM
I happen to think Hatton will be more effective against PBF than Cotto would. Hatton would get tagged alot but he doesnt wait as much, he is constantly looking to get in and rough you up. whether its by clinching or trying to smash the body apart.

Cotto is the better boxer but he wont touch PBF anywhere near as easy as he did Mosley who sat within reach trying to bomb him out. Im also not saying Hatton would beat Cotto either that is a 50/50 fight.

Hatton will go ok against PBF but I dont think it'll be enough. PBF effectively outpunched Oscar and he should do it to Hatton with a little bit more trouble.