katsidis vs diaz

[maco_187]

apparently the purse bid was won by oscar de lehoya, the purse is 1.5 million and the split between fighters is 80:20 so baby bull will get 1.2 million and katsidis with 300,000....
thats a massive difference in money, i wonder how he feels about that, me personally i would say 70-30 would be more fair...
waynesmale you might know more about what kat is thinking on this??
apparently the fight will be january 28 in houston cant wait..... if kat can titen his defence up he stands a good chance as he can over power baby bull....

[Dr Gonzo]

jesus christ - not one person giving him a chance in the general.... god the yanks are nut huggers.

The thing i dont understand is concerning Kat's facial damage. The guy had 22 pro fights before Amonsot and barely got cut up at all from punches; a bit of swelling but nothing major. Then he fights Amonsot and his face gets beaten to a pulp? Surely Czar doesnt hit THAT much harder than all the other guys. Was it just because he hit Kat more? I really cant figure out a medical reason for the massive difference.

[waynesmale]

apparently the purse bid was won by oscar de lehoya, the purse is 1.5 million and the split between fighters is 80:20 so baby bull will get 1.2 million and katsidis with 300,000....
thats a massive difference in money, i wonder how he feels about that, me personally i would say 70-30 would be more fair...
waynesmale you might know more about what kat is thinking on this??
apparently the fight will be january 28 in houston cant wait..... if kat can titen his defence up he stands a good chance as he can over power baby bull....
Can't really sya much mate but last i heard was DON KING was set to offer a 20/80% cut to Mike which was nothing short of a total joke as for this so I doubt it is real but maybe Mike is saying screw it he will take it and rather take a shot at Juan rather then worry about the money side of things.

Plus it would be alot more than what he would get defending his belt so in the end of the day if it's true it is still a good pay day for him.

[Marcus]

Id be surprised if Katsidis was cut to pices in this fight, maybe Amosot turned his fists over on contact and thats what caused the cuts.... its hard to find a reason.

Kat will be pumped for this fight, and he will train hard as always which will give him a good chance.

Hopefully Baby Bull agrees to the fight, because its not a done deal just yet, i think he will give up the belt and sign to fight David Diaz.

[Dr Gonzo]

Id be surprised if Katsidis was cut to pices in this fight, maybe Amosot turned his fists over on contact and thats what caused the cuts.... its hard to find a reason.

Kat will be pumped for this fight, and he will train hard as always which will give him a good chance.

Hopefully Baby Bull agrees to the fight, because its not a done deal just yet, i think he will give up the belt and sign to fight David Diaz.

yeah you might be right - i mean its hard to believe anyone could have skin that soft. He didnt take that many punches before he was opened up and most of them were jabs. Very strange :huh

[Marcus]

yeah you might be right - i mean its hard to believe anyone could have skin that soft. He didnt take that many punches before he was opened up and most of them were jabs. Very strange :huh

Yeah but, when Amosot threw the first punch of the fight (a fast powerful lead hook) i knew Kat was in for a tough fight.

Amosot is a great boxer, id love to see him come to Australia and fight.

[Dr Gonzo]

yeah he has a great chin and an exciting southpaw style - but i think his fighting days might be numbered. Rocky messed up his head pretty bad mate, internal bleeding and shit

[Marcus]

yeah he has a great chin and an exciting southpaw style - but i think his fighting days might be numbered. Rocky messed up his head pretty bad mate, internal bleeding and shit


The Pinoys dont give a fuck mate, he already had a fight signed in Jan, but they thought more rest time was needed.

I bet he fights in 2008

[Kegsy]

Katsidis will give a great account of himself against Diaz.
He may not win, but he will fight right until the last bell.

[MSTR]

Katsidis will give a great account of himself against Diaz.
He may not win, but he will fight right until the last bell.

I have my doubts of this going the distance to be perfectly honest. Diaz is just a class above, and Katsidis is very limited defensively. The offense of Kat will make things competitive, but Diaz is just better in every department, and the skill difference will start to show as the fight goes on. Katsidis won't be able to take a sustained beating for the full distance.

[Kegsy]

I have my doubts of this going the distance to be perfectly honest. Diaz is just a class above, and Katsidis is very limited defensively. The offense of Kat will make things competitive, but Diaz is just better in every department, and the skill difference will start to show as the fight goes on. Katsidis won't be able to take a sustained beating for the full distance.Fair enough mate.
Either way Katsidis wont die wondering...:yep

[MSTR]

Fair enough mate.
Either way Katsidis wont die wondering...:yep

hahaha... I see this being a cautious tactical battle, with precision counter punching on both parts.

[MSTR]

i definitely give katsidis a chance. diaz is one of my favourites and he'll definitely be putting bombs on katsidis.. but at the end of the day he just doesnt have much power. he's going to score well but with his style he will have to take some of katsidis' shots...

i usually hate the expression puncher's chance but i reckon katsidis has a GREAT one.

Diaz is hardly chinny though. And his power is very under rated. He is sitting down on his punches MUCH more in recent fights, just ask Freitas or Julio Diaz. Freitas is a big puncher, and he couldn't even wobble Diaz, even though he is a better boxer then Katsidis and is more capable of landing clean punches. Although Katsidis will always have a punchers chance, it is very slim against Diaz IMO.

[crash]

go kat,,

[theunderdog]

yeah he has a great chin and an exciting southpaw style - but i think his fighting days might be numbered. Rocky messed up his head pretty bad mate, internal bleeding and shit

you can be sure that amonsot does not give a flying fuck about bleding internally and shit. he'll fight soon. he does not have anything but boxing as a source of income.

anyway, i still think it is too soon for katsidis to be fighting the best lightweight out there. but hey, i also thought it was too soon for pac to face the best featherweight in mab.

point is, pressure fighters always have a chance. katsidis may just catch juan diaz with something that will knock him out.

[stuistylee]

this is good news...i cant help 2 think that i woulda liked mic 2 have a 1or 2 more fights b4 baby bull...i love my aussie boxers and "i have the faith" come on mic i know youll do us proud...you allreasy have...imagine how mic feels when he walks 2 the news agency amd picks the ring up and there he is with a full feature article...i think his cut of the fight isnt up2 his drawing power(i think this is where a cpl more fights woulda helped(experience is the primary benefit but extra cash is always good)...id like 2 know what u guys think of katsidis and or his management team in respect 2 taking this fight at this point in time, i mean lets face it the way 2 becoming the best in your division is not the same as it was when u had 2 fight the man 2 b champ instead of being able 2 buy a shot against 673 diffrent orgs champs?..

[Kegsy]

yeah you're right about the power developing in diaz. alot of people forget that he would have been still maturing physically through his career. still in comparison to katsidis he's the weaker man. i dont think he'll be bullied or anything like that but i do think he's going to wear some REAL shots. and if he's touched down before it can happen again. (same with katsidis obviously)

stuistylee... i dont mind the decision to fight diaz now. alot of people talk about katsidis having a few more fights to get ready for diaz. but lets not forget diaz is younger and improving as well. i think its great that katsidis is striking while the iron is hot. and the great thing about this fight is that he's going to benefit either way. if he puts on a FIGHT the public will love him and he'll get himself the opportunity for future title shots and dollars.

maybe one more fight? i heard HBO wanted a david diaz fight for katsidis.. but i have no problem with him going straight for the king pin.Some very valid points there Katsidis kid.
Should be 1 heck of a contest nonetheless.
Hope Juan Diaz goes through with it, coz Don King his promoter didnt even put in a purse bid.

[stuistylee]

[quote=katsidis kid]yeah you're right about the power developing in diaz. alot of people forget that he would have been still maturing physically through his career. still in comparison to katsidis he's the weaker man. i dont think he'll be bullied or anything like that but i do think he's going to wear some REAL shots. and if he's touched down before it can happen again. (same with katsidis obviously)

stuistylee... i dont mind the decision to fight diaz now. alot of people talk about katsidis having a few more fights to get ready for diaz. but lets not forget diaz is younger and improving as well. i think its great that katsidis is striking while the iron is hot. and the great thing about this fight is that he's going to benefit either way. if he puts on a FIGHT the public will love him and he'll get himself the opportunity for future title shots and dollars. [quote]









yeh man i think when fighters talk about letting fights build i think its bullshit...boxing was doing just fine when it was 1 champion and you had 2 fight THE champ2 win the title and make your dream come true...also ive seen fights fizzle when the 2 best in a division wait 2 fight each other (things come up in the time that their waiting 2 4 it 2 "build up", mayb 1 guy gets floored in a defense of his title and becomes more tentative, mayb he has a short peak) so kudos 2 michael 4 wanting 2 get 2 #1 as quickly as sensibly possible...it is called belief...go katman:bbb :bbb :bbb
maybe one more fight? i heard HBO wanted a david diaz fight for katsidis.. but i have no problem with him going straight for the king pin.[hey katsidis kid i screwed up my reply and didnt know how 2 fix it so that last line was from you

[scorpy]

One way or another... this is a battle I don't want to miss.

My head says Diaz UD but my heart wants a Katsidis UD.

[BoppaZoo]

Katsidis will take a career ending beating from Diaz because he's utterly shit.Fluxstuff you know stuff all about boxing. If Katsidis is shit where is all the so called Scottish boxing Champions.

Oh thats right theres NONE.

[Marcus]

Fluxstuff you know stuff all about boxing. If Katsidis is shit where is all the so called Scottish boxing Champions.

Oh thats right theres NONE.

Katsidis KO1 Scotland

fuck off and dont come back :hi:

[LeonMcS]

William Wallace was their last name contender.

[ozziebattler]

What the fuck's that got to do with anything?

What a surreal point: using that sort of argument I could post the following - if Katsidis is great why is Oscar De La Hoya not from Switzerland?

Oh that's right, cause he's not. See, stupid, just like your entire post.

I have based my opinion on katsidis on two things: his woeful defence and his big mouth. Between the two of them he is cruising for a beating from Diaz.

Katsidis is shit, it's about time you accepted it.

And the scottish are pastey skinned inbreds,and your women are whores..

All it took from me was a G'day to get all the scottish's lass's to line up with their kneepads on.

No wonder they got Fosters on tap....Baby you scots are duds.

[BoppaZoo]

What the fuck's that got to do with anything?

What a surreal point: using that sort of argument I could post the following - if Katsidis is great why is Oscar De La Hoya not from Switzerland?

Oh that's right, cause he's not. See, stupid, just like your entire post.

I have based my opinion on katsidis on two things: his woeful defence and his big mouth. Between the two of them he is cruising for a beating from Diaz.

Katsidis is shit, it's about time you accepted it.Well im saying it because you come in here saying how shit Aussie boxing is and how shit our boxers are but there is not one world boxing champ that hales from Scotland.

You bag Katsidis,Mundine,Green,Briggs,Bika,Soliman,Darchinyan yet all are ranked higher than any other Scot in boxing.

So Fuck off. Oh and by the way the best striker in the SPL is Scott McDonald a Aussie.

Now you can say what you want but we shit all over you.

[WhataRock]

Plus at least we got our own country, you are still the queens bitches.

Enough enough, I think thats enough scottish bashing.

Why dont we all just get along, get together and bash the english instead?

[Kegsy]

Plus at least we got our own country, you are still the queens bitches.

Enough enough, I think thats enough scottish bashing.

Why dont we all just get along, get together and bash the english instead?Yeah we all gotta team up to hate the poms.
The irish would side with us as well, tho they are pretty useless.:hey

[Hmmm]

whats that? Did I hear someone say Ice Cold Beer?????

[Marcus]

I love the aussie forum, i think we went to far against the gitt, it was great!!!! :lol:

[stevekaradeniz]

Bika is good but Katsidis is not?

YOU ARE A FUKW1T!!!!

and no you cant have an opinion when you say something as stupid as that

i like bika..i think he's awesome in fact....but if you tell you think he is good and katsidis is 'shit'...i mean look what your saying dude...you are calling him a shit fighter.... in other words he cant fight.... go home mate

and to think im not even a huge katsidis fan myself.....

[LeonMcS]

So to recap, you wont die wondering what the other posters think of you on the Aussie forum.

[Kegsy]

When the hell did I say all Aussie boxers are crap?

Mundine's good (though a fanny), Bika's good, Green's so-so. But Katsidis is shit.Katsidis shit hey.:-(
Your a tool my friend.

[Marcus]

Katsidis signs to fight Diaz!
Thursday, December 6 2007

"Now Juan Diaz will know why he is afraid of the dark" was the only comment offered by WBO interim lightweight Mike Katsidis even writing it on the bottom of the contract before it was sent to WBO headquarters and Golden Boy Promotions. "I still have not received confirmation that Juan has signed but do expect that he will and not allow the WBO to strip him as that is exactley what they will do if he does not sign today," quoted manager/trainer Brendon Smith. "Febuary 9 is the date and we are looking forward to this fight and everyone will know Michael as 'Katsidis the Great' from then on!" Smith continued "I have the perfect name for this promotion 'Honour' in respect to the 80/20 split that was awarded to Juan Diaz. It wasn't possible for Juan to become super champion if it wasn't for the agreeance of Micheal to allow him to have one more fight and therefore if Juan is a genuine human being, which I know he is, out of his 1.2 million dollars he should give Michael $200,000 on top of Michaels $300,000 at least!. This fight should be a 50/50 split, but let's see."

I dont think Baby Bull will sign.

What do people think?

[Dr Gonzo]

i think he will opt for a softer opponent and let Rocky have the WBO strap

but i pray that he signs :yep

[Marcus]

Yeah, i know it would be a good fight, but i dont want Rocky to have this fight yet, he should develope himself a lot like Baby Bull has, i dont think he should be calling out Pacman yet either.

[theunderdog]

it will be a good fight while it lasts, if it happens, that is

[Achilles]

I have based my opinion on katsidis on two things: his woeful defence and his big mouth. Between the two of them he is cruising for a beating from Diaz.

Katsidis is shit, it's about time you accepted it.

Using this logic Mayweather must be half as good as everyone says he is because he also has a big mouth.

:nut :nut :nut :nut :nut

Are you from the McDonald clan with the Christian name of Ronald by any chance????

:patsch