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dpw417
11-28-2007, 10:38 PM
I know....I know...
It's not exactly a fair fight. But back in the early '80's, I really wanted this fight to happen. Marvin Hagler made the right decision to stay at middle..But the styles and personalities of these fighters really captured my imagination....Suppose it would have happened?
Humor me.... I think it would have been possibly a great fight...
The Hagler from the Sibson fight (Hagler looked so sharp and accurate with his punches) against Qawi from the second Sadd fight (Qawi was so intense it was scary). Outside chance?... Could the faster jabbing southpaw outpoint the shorter Qawi?
Who and why?

JohnThomas1
11-29-2007, 02:10 AM
Qawi's prolly as fast, hits harder i'd say, takes as good a shot, easily as good stamina wise, better inside, better defensively, is stronger, works the body better etc etc. Also highly motivated and very intense at his peak. It's Qawi's fight for sure.

JohnThomas1
11-29-2007, 03:21 AM
Qawi would be a difficult night for any 175 in history.

GoldenHulk
11-29-2007, 06:29 AM
I think Qawi beats Hagler by UD. I know that Dwight wanted to fight Hagler, but couldnt make it down to middleweight, and Marvin didn't want to go up to light heavyweight.

Titan1
11-29-2007, 09:00 AM
Qawi would stop Hagler late. Like with Spinks, wise choise for Hagler not to move up.

PhillyPhan69
11-29-2007, 11:16 AM
I like Hagler alot....but ther are reasons he never tried to go above MW...IMO a wise decision. Qawi is a beast and naturally the bigger man...Hagler may have an iron chin at middle but I don't see him lastin 10 in this one

dpw417
11-29-2007, 11:24 AM
Qawi would be a difficult night for any 175 in history.
Agreed. In fact, I'd take Qawi against Foster:think . Qawi was very strong light heavy!

dpw417
11-29-2007, 06:07 PM
Qawi is way too strong for Hagler but I don't see him stopping him. Hagler had an IRON cast jaw so I don't see why it's all the sudden going to go to average against a bigger man who isn't a huge puncher.

Qawi UD15, 11-4 or 12-3
I totally agree with your statement about Qawi's strength...but I don't thinkl Hagler would even attempt to match strength with the light heavy....I think that he would fight Qawi similar to his fight with Briscoe, jabbing and moving....Marvin had very good hand speed and footwork. I really do not see a stoppage at all, Qawi would have to work very hard at cutting off the ring, and forcing the exchanges. With Hagler strictly boxing however:think ....I think it's close:thumbsup

Longhhorn71
11-29-2007, 11:13 PM
Qawi is way too strong for Hagler but I don't see him stopping him. Hagler had an IRON cast jaw so I don't see why it's all the sudden going to go to average against a bigger man who isn't a huge puncher.

Qawi UD15, 11-4 or 12-3

A prime Braxton/Qawi was too strong for even Saad Muhammad.

A middleweight Hagler couldn't keep Qwai off of him....and JoeCal
of this era would be bouncing BB's off Dwight who would just laugh at
him thru his mouthpiece.

birddog
11-29-2007, 11:46 PM
Big Hagler fan here but Dwight would be too much for him. I don't agree with JT regarding Qawi being a better in fighter than Marvin, I think it's a pretty even there. But Dwight would just be too strong and relentless nonetheless.

Hagler knew he was a natural Middleweight, and knew better than try to move up. Also he was a culmulative puncher with good power at middleweight, but not great power, which wouldn't serve him well againt LH's. Meaning he couldn't keep Dwight off him, also don't think he would be able to pull a leonard and just peck and move and pile up points.

Decision Qawi, Hagler's grill is too hard for him to be stopped

JohnThomas1
11-30-2007, 12:48 AM
I don't agree with JT regarding Qawi being a better in fighter than Marvin, I think it's a pretty even there.

Well, at 175 Qawi IMO is definitely the better infighter. On a P4P basis it would tighten, but in this fight at 175 i really don't think Marvin can battle it out inside with Qawi. I do think Qawi is superb inside practicioner, huge arms and shoulders used well defensively in close.

Manassa
11-30-2007, 12:37 PM
I really don't understand the people who say Hagler would be stopped by Qawi or Michael Spinks. The same people would pick Eddie Gregory to stop him and probably Marvin Johnson as well. It's ridiculous. 'Just' because of fifteen pounds in weight... As I've said many a time before, a fighter doesn't go from being practically invincible to fairly stoppable just because he moves up a bit. Especially a fighter as skilled and experienced as Hagler.

mcvey
11-30-2007, 01:11 PM
I really don't understand the people who say Hagler would be stopped by Qawi or Michael Spinks. The same people would pick Eddie Gregory to stop him and probably Marvin Johnson as well. It's ridiculous. 'Just' because of fifteen pounds in weight... As I've said many a time before, a fighter doesn't go from being practically invincible to fairly stoppable just because he moves up a bit. Especially a fighter as skilled and experienced as Hagler.
You back again? Testosterone gone down? Qawi by dec,Hagler had an all time great chin,it would take a Foster or Moore to stop him ,and thats not a given.

Manassa
11-30-2007, 01:13 PM
You back again? Testosterone gone down? Qawi by dec,Hagler had an all time great chin,it would take a Foster or Moore to stop him ,and thats not a given.

I never left :huh

mcvey
11-30-2007, 03:01 PM
I never left :huh
I thought you were ranting about the paucity of intelligent debate on here and swearing at us mere mortals,aand had decided to grace us with your presence no more,oh well,seems we are stuck with you.

Manassa
11-30-2007, 03:42 PM
I thought you were ranting about the paucity of intelligent debate on here and swearing at us mere mortals,aand had decided to grace us with your presence no more,oh well,seems we are stuck with you.

Don't act like you don't like me. I know you do - everyone does.

Executioner
11-30-2007, 03:58 PM
qawi by decision. not a fair matchup, qawi is so much physically stronger than hagler

mcvey
11-30-2007, 04:06 PM
Don't act like you don't like me. I know you do - everyone does.
Oh I know you, after all I was once young myself,back when an old Joe Louis was still "The King". Stick with it young sir,and as I said to Ricky,recently,"keep punching" !