I found the perfect aide to my sleeping problem, it involves boxing.

[Amsterdam]

I have erratic sleeping patterns and trouble falling asleep when I need to and end up with schedule issue's. So last week I ordered a DVD of Andre Dirrell vs. Curtis Stevens and I kid you not, but all I have to do is pop that in and I am out by the end of round 3 everytime.

Normally before I'd have Baseball games on demand and use those to fall asleep, but they stopped working, I have no doubts that Dirrell vs. Stevens will work for a very long time, it is the most boring fight ever conducted.

I also may look into Ruiz vs. Holyfield trilogy and Byrd vs. Williamson just to keep variety. Maybe Gatti-Ward also, the lack of skill level is mind numbing and may work to put me out.

[brooklyn1550]

:lol:

So Dirrell-Stevens was actually good for something

[Executioner]

I am with you on this one amsterdam. Direll-stevens was a fucking disgrace!:-(

Ive never been more disgusted watching a fight than I was that night

[Amsterdam]

:lol:

So Dirrell-Stevens was actually good for something

As much as a boxing fan as I am, a bad fight is a bad fight and this one is either tied with Williamson-Byrd, or just beats it by a smidge for the worst fight ever.

But it really does help me out, I'm not just making this thread for fun.

Exedrin PM, Sleep Aide, Niquil .... these guys hold nothing on Dirrell-Stevens, Dirrell-Stevens is GOLD for falling asleep, if you ever have this problem Brooklyn then I reccommend it.

You may even develop a fond place in your heart for this fight due to how it helps you out in a time of sleeping crisis.

[rekcutnevets]

I dare anyone to watch Rafael Pineda vs. Roger Mayweather.

[brimey]

Maybe Gatti-Ward also, the lack of skill level is mind numbing and may work to put me out.

I agree completlely... In your face Mickey and Arturo, how dare you fight your heart and souls out for our entertainment.... I mean I would be ashamed if I was you for putting on such a pathetic display of boxing skill.... Boxing needs less tools like you and more truly great warriors like PBF, the kind of people who really keep this sport alive....:verysad

[Carlos Primera]

how bout rahman-ruiz amst? that was probably the most sleep inducing fight i have ever seen. i had to sit through that crap waiting for mayorga-spinks/ hopkins-joppy later on during that night.

[PacDbest]

How about Raheem's Fight collection???

[Amsterdam]

How about Raheem's Fight collection???

At least he always wrestles.

[brooklyn1550]

As much as a boxing fan as I am, a bad fight is a bad fight and this one is either tied with Williamson-Byrd, or just beats it by a smidge for the worst fight ever.

But it really does help me out, I'm not just making this thread for fun.

Exedrin PM, Sleep Aide, Niquil .... these guys hold nothing on Dirrell-Stevens, Dirrell-Stevens is GOLD for falling asleep, if you ever have this problem Brooklyn then I reccommend it.

You may even develop a fond place in your heart for this fight due to how it helps you out in a time of sleeping crisis.

Oh yeah, I know you weren't kidding:good

To be honest, I put in Mayweather-Baldomir and I was out probably around the 8th round. I sometimes have troubles falling asleep when I'm stressed with work, so I'll take your suggestion into account!

[IntentionalButt]

I had just about forgotten this fight! And was okay with that! :twisted: ...getting...drowsy...

[Amsterdam]

Oh yeah, I know you weren't kidding:good

To be honest, I put in Mayweather-Baldomir and I was out probably around the 8th round. I sometimes have troubles falling asleep when I'm stressed with work, so I'll take your suggestion into account!

Interchangable with Mayweather-DLH also.

[brooklyn1550]

Interchangable with Mayweather-DLH also.

Another good one - I actually watched it yesterday on On-Demand.

Mayweather's best win as a fighter and an excellent performance, but I was not overly impressed like I was recently with Calzaghe's UD of Kessler.

Mayweather is the better counterpuncher and better defensively, but Calzaghe puts his shots together better.

[IntentionalButt]

Another good one - I actually watched it yesterday on On-Demand.

Mayweather's best win as a fighter and an excellent performance, but I was not overly impressed like I was recently with Calzaghe's UD of Kessler.

Mayweather is the better counterpuncher and better defensively, but Calzaghe puts his shots together better.

+ 34yo Oscar is no 28yo Mikkel. :good

[Amsterdam]

Another good one - I actually watched it yesterday on On-Demand.

Mayweather's best win as a fighter and an excellent performance, but I was not overly impressed like I was recently with Calzaghe's UD of Kessler.

Mayweather is the better counterpuncher and better defensively, but Calzaghe puts his shots together better.

Nobody would ever say Calzaghe is more skilled than Mayweather, because realistically nobody in boxing, save for Cristian Mijares, is as skilled as Floyd Mayweather in their respective styles. Calzaghe's also past his best, pretty deep in also, reflexes are nothing like his peak, which that was absurd, he could hit you accurately with a winged shot and you couldn't see it coming.:yep

But you have to take in intangibles and other factors also, Mayweather didn't impress me vs. DLH because he fought overly safe against a past prime opponent who the P4P #1 should have made easy work of and nearly shutout, which I scored it 8-4 and had no issue's with someone scoring it 7-5.

And I don't really rate DLH as an ATG, he's a seriously flawed fighter and was in his prime and I felt Quartey and Whitaker edged him and this was a prime DLH here, it was no surprise that DLH was going to lose to Mayweather, he was supposed to lose to Mayweather and if Oscar wasn't a good looking guy with the nice guy persona, he'd be rated about where he's at because he'd be less marketable.

Alternatively, it bothers me that Mayweather was so troubled by Castillo, two times, people act like the second fight wasn't competitive, but it was. It's not like Castillo is a great fighter, here's a guy scraping past Stevie Johnston shortly before fighting Mayweather. Castillo was without a doubt a top class fighter, with very good qualities, but also very beatable and not the type that would trouble a guy like Floyd thinks he is. You have to remember Whitaker handling Chavez, who was immensely better than Castillo, Whitaker likely would have won every round over Castillo, yet Floyd claims he's the best ever.

Then further, Floyd's been cherry picking lately, he doesn't want Cotto and the Williams type, he wants easy Hatton. Like I said, if guys like Mijares were natural 140-147's and Floyd had to fight them, he'd either lose or have a damn tough time winning, same with Guzman and others, but Hatton, only acceptable because he's overhyped since day 1.

So I don't like the cherry picking cunt, and I don't like his fans in the same way, because they think he's unbeatable when he's clearly not and clearly can be destroyed by an elite level 'technical pressure fighter', such as Cotto in my opinion. Hatton's not technical, he's a mess, so I don't want any responses from anyone calling Hatton 'technical pressure'. Floyd has a lot of proving to do and not because we are concerned that he's not one of the most skilled ever, but because he and his dumb fans and crew claim that he's one of the best ever and I think he's a notch lower than a guy like Pernell Whitaker.

Those are some big shoes to fill.

[Amsterdam]

+ 34yo Oscar is no 28yo Mikkel. :good

Definitely not, but to assert that Mikkel is a top level elite now after he's lost to Calzaghe is to be criticised, even though we have evidence in video and statistics that he was cleaning out the B level guys like a top elite would, even better than some top elite's, rarely dropping a round.

It's interesting that Michael Nunn, a fantastic fighter, was dropping a lot more rounds than Kessler to comparable opposition before he started fighting on the elite spectrum.:yep

But no, we have to deal with a shot Hopkins and then his overrated co-partner DLH, guys like them hold all of the marbles and it's sick, because they are so beatable.

[Shpion]

I have erratic sleeping patterns and trouble falling asleep when I need to and end up with schedule issue's. So last week I ordered a DVD of Andre Dirrell vs. Curtis Stevens and I kid you not, but all I have to do is pop that in and I am out by the end of round 3 everytime.

Normally before I'd have Baseball games on demand and use those to fall asleep, but they stopped working, I have no doubts that Dirrell vs. Stevens will work for a very long time, it is the most boring fight ever conducted.

I also may look into Ruiz vs. Holyfield trilogy and Byrd vs. Williamson just to keep variety. Maybe Gatti-Ward also, the lack of skill level is mind numbing and may work to put me out.

I don't even have to watch this ... (cannot call it a fight). I just think about it and it puts me to sleep.

[Illmatic]

ruiz-holyfield trilogy were three epic battles that served as ruiz' welcome party to the elite of the heavyweight division

[Carlos Primera]

i stand by my claim that rahman-ruiz is the best cure for insomnia.

[doomeddisciple]

Ruiz vs. Holyfield trilogy may well get you to sleep - But only with restless horrible broken sleep full of nightmares of being caught in a vice like grip and a horrible "KILL EM JAWNNY!!" being yelled out by Stoney...

Joe Cortez owes me many rounds of my life back for calling that Holyfield body shot where he dropped Ruiz low - In the second fight I think it was.

[shelterr]

Another good one - I actually watched it yesterday on On-Demand.

Mayweather's best win as a fighter and an excellent performance, but I was not overly impressed like I was recently with Calzaghe's UD of Kessler.

Mayweather is the better counterpuncher and better defensively, but Calzaghe puts his shots together better.

I fell asleep to PBF-DLH on-demand the other night too! Only made it 3 rounds. The only thing that made the fight interesting was when it was live, you didn't know who was going to win or if there was going to be some bullshit scoring. Without that to look forward to, its a real snoozer.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Rahman - Ruiz will not only put one to sleep, it may induce a coma. I recommend we NEVER speak of that fight again for fear of Banishment. I mean, from now on. Starting.......now.

[Carlos Primera]

Rahman - Ruiz will not only put one to sleep, it may induce a coma. I recommend we NEVER speak of that fight again for fear of Banishment. I mean, from now on. Starting.......now.
a black page in boxing history if there ever was one.

[sues2nd]

I have erratic sleeping patterns and trouble falling asleep when I need to and end up with schedule issue's. So last week I ordered a DVD of Andre Dirrell vs. Curtis Stevens and I kid you not, but all I have to do is pop that in and I am out by the end of round 3 everytime.

Normally before I'd have Baseball games on demand and use those to fall asleep, but they stopped working, I have no doubts that Dirrell vs. Stevens will work for a very long time, it is the most boring fight ever conducted.

I also may look into Ruiz vs. Holyfield trilogy and Byrd vs. Williamson just to keep variety. Maybe Gatti-Ward also, the lack of skill level is mind numbing and may work to put me out.

:lol:

[codeman99998]

Nobody would ever say Calzaghe is more skilled than Mayweather, because realistically nobody in boxing, save for Cristian Mijares, is as skilled as Floyd Mayweather in their respective styles. Calzaghe's also past his best, pretty deep in also, reflexes are nothing like his peak, which that was absurd, he could hit you accurately with a winged shot and you couldn't see it coming.:yep

But you have to take in intangibles and other factors also, Mayweather didn't impress me vs. DLH because he fought overly safe against a past prime opponent who the P4P #1 should have made easy work of and nearly shutout, which I scored it 8-4 and had no issue's with someone scoring it 7-5.

And I don't really rate DLH as an ATG, he's a seriously flawed fighter and was in his prime and I felt Quartey and Whitaker edged him and this was a prime DLH here, it was no surprise that DLH was going to lose to Mayweather, he was supposed to lose to Mayweather and if Oscar wasn't a good looking guy with the nice guy persona, he'd be rated about where he's at because he'd be less marketable.

Alternatively, it bothers me that Mayweather was so troubled by Castillo, two times, people act like the second fight wasn't competitive, but it was. It's not like Castillo is a great fighter, here's a guy scraping past Stevie Johnston shortly before fighting Mayweather. Castillo was without a doubt a top class fighter, with very good qualities, but also very beatable and not the type that would trouble a guy like Floyd thinks he is. You have to remember Whitaker handling Chavez, who was immensely better than Castillo, Whitaker likely would have won every round over Castillo, yet Floyd claims he's the best ever.

Then further, Floyd's been cherry picking lately, he doesn't want Cotto and the Williams type, he wants easy Hatton. Like I said, if guys like Mijares were natural 140-147's and Floyd had to fight them, he'd either lose or have a damn tough time winning, same with Guzman and others, but Hatton, only acceptable because he's overhyped since day 1.

So I don't like the cherry picking cunt, and I don't like his fans in the same way, because they think he's unbeatable when he's clearly not and clearly can be destroyed by an elite level 'technical pressure fighter', such as Cotto in my opinion. Hatton's not technical, he's a mess, so I don't want any responses from anyone calling Hatton 'technical pressure'. Floyd has a lot of proving to do and not because we are concerned that he's not one of the most skilled ever, but because he and his dumb fans and crew claim that he's one of the best ever and I think he's a notch lower than a guy like Pernell Whitaker.

Those are some big shoes to fill.

Blah blah blah...

Mayweather fights Hatton? He shoulda fought Cotto. Mayweather fights Baldomir? He shoulda fought Judah. Mayweather fights Judah? He should have fought someone else...

I mean, say what you will dude, but we are talking about the linear WW champ, followed by a much bigger much stronger hall of fame fighter in DLH, followed by an undefeated in over 40 fights champion in Hatton. Three years ago EVERYONE wanted to see Hatton versus Mayweather, and neither of them have lost since then.

No matter who Mayweather fights some people will say he is fighting the wrong guy.

[huki]

Am I the only one that's never bored by any live fight on HBO? Even the Andre Dirrell fight was entertaining in an interesting/funny way. I could seriously watch paint dry if Larry Merchant and the rest of the HBO crew are commentating during it.

[Maxmomer]

I'm the exact same way with sleep, I just went to bed at noon and woke up and 11pm. I'll have to look into this.

[Boro chris]

Blah blah blah...

Mayweather fights Hatton? He shoulda fought Cotto. Mayweather fights Baldomir? He shoulda fought Judah. Mayweather fights Judah? He should have fought someone else...

I mean, say what you will dude, but we are talking about the linear WW champ, followed by a much bigger much stronger hall of fame fighter in DLH, followed by an undefeated in over 40 fights champion in Hatton. Three years ago EVERYONE wanted to see Hatton versus Mayweather, and neither of them have lost since then.

No matter who Mayweather fights some people will say he is fighting the wrong guy.

Well thats boxing and it can be applied to everyone.
I do think if Floyd fights Cotto he'll not recieve the same criticisim though.

[Andre]

Has anyone got a link to that Andre Direll fight? Im curious to see how boring this fight really is :lol:

[huki]

Has anyone got a link to that Andre Direll fight? Im curious to see how boring this fight really is :lol: I don't think it was nearly as boring as some of John Ruiz matches. Clinching excessively is much worse than running/potshotting. The reason why Andre Dirrell gets so much hate is because he truly is the definition of a runner. He was much taller than his opponent, so he literally ran around the ring and fought as safe as he possibly could while still winning rounds. It was mildly entertaining to watch just because of how funny Dirrell looked fighting scared and running. Plus, the reactions of the fans and the HBO crew were funny. John Ruiz's punch/hold technique was not entertaining on any level though and it sllowed down fights ilke hell. Watching his entire fights feels like 24 rounds.

[Maxmomer]

I'm the exact same way with sleep, I just went to bed at noon and woke up and 11pm. I'll have to look into this.

[yesihavearm]

Worse than Skelton vs Sprott ?

[enquirer]

Watch carlos de leon v johnny nelson....Makes hagler/hearns look like slo mo spoilers......

[Chunk]

Nobody would ever say Calzaghe is more skilled than Mayweather, because realistically nobody in boxing, save for Cristian Mijares, is as skilled as Floyd Mayweather in their respective styles. Calzaghe's also past his best, pretty deep in also, reflexes are nothing like his peak, which that was absurd, he could hit you accurately with a winged shot and you couldn't see it coming.:yep

But you have to take in intangibles and other factors also, Mayweather didn't impress me vs. DLH because he fought overly safe against a past prime opponent who the P4P #1 should have made easy work of and nearly shutout, which I scored it 8-4 and had no issue's with someone scoring it 7-5.

And I don't really rate DLH as an ATG, he's a seriously flawed fighter and was in his prime and I felt Quartey and Whitaker edged him and this was a prime DLH here, it was no surprise that DLH was going to lose to Mayweather, he was supposed to lose to Mayweather and if Oscar wasn't a good looking guy with the nice guy persona, he'd be rated about where he's at because he'd be less marketable.

Alternatively, it bothers me that Mayweather was so troubled by Castillo, two times, people act like the second fight wasn't competitive, but it was. It's not like Castillo is a great fighter, here's a guy scraping past Stevie Johnston shortly before fighting Mayweather. Castillo was without a doubt a top class fighter, with very good qualities, but also very beatable and not the type that would trouble a guy like Floyd thinks he is. You have to remember Whitaker handling Chavez, who was immensely better than Castillo, Whitaker likely would have won every round over Castillo, yet Floyd claims he's the best ever.

Then further, Floyd's been cherry picking lately, he doesn't want Cotto and the Williams type, he wants easy Hatton. Like I said, if guys like Mijares were natural 140-147's and Floyd had to fight them, he'd either lose or have a damn tough time winning, same with Guzman and others, but Hatton, only acceptable because he's overhyped since day 1.

So I don't like the cherry picking cunt, and I don't like his fans in the same way, because they think he's unbeatable when he's clearly not and clearly can be destroyed by an elite level 'technical pressure fighter', such as Cotto in my opinion. Hatton's not technical, he's a mess, so I don't want any responses from anyone calling Hatton 'technical pressure'. Floyd has a lot of proving to do and not because we are concerned that he's not one of the most skilled ever, but because he and his dumb fans and crew claim that he's one of the best ever and I think he's a notch lower than a guy like Pernell Whitaker.

Those are some big shoes to fill.

i would consider myself to be a PBF fan and i dont consider the best fighter ever,i do however consider him one of the best of my generation(which he is) so dont rub all PBF fans with the same brush we are not all nut-huggers some are genuine boxing fans...

[Amsterdam]

i would consider myself to be a PBF fan and i dont consider the best fighter ever,i do however consider him one of the best of my generation(which he is) so dont rub all PBF fans with the same brush we are not all nut-huggers some are genuine boxing fans...

He is one of the best of the generation and has the ability to seal himself as the cemented best of the generation, that's not the issue at all. Some of his fans think he's the best of the last 25 years, I can't rate him with Jones and Whitaker, he's not in the realm of those guys as the full package.