View Full Version : Mayweather against these ATGs:
Illmatic
11-30-2007, 11:52 AM
FMJ against:
Arguello at 130
Pryor at 140
Whitaker at 135
Tszyu at 140
Morales at 130
Barrera at 130
Pacquaio at 130
JMM at 130
Stevie Johnston at 135
Camacho at 135
Chavez at 140
KayEpps
11-30-2007, 11:54 AM
He beats everyone but Whitaker - but it's just my opinion.
Amsterdam
11-30-2007, 11:56 AM
FMJ against:
Arguello at 130
Pryor at 140
Whitaker at 135
Tszyu at 140
Morales at 130
Barrera at 130
Pacquaio at 130
JMM at 130
Stevie Johnston at 135
Camacho at 135
Chavez at 140
Mayweather UD Arguello
Pryor TKO 11 Mayweather
Whitaker UD Mayweather
Going to be razor thin, but Mayweather UD Tszyu
Mayweather TKO 8 Morales
Mayweather TKO 5 Barrera
Mayweather TKO 4 JMM
Mayweather UD Stevie Johnston
Mayweather UD Camacho
Chavez TKO 10 Mayweather
....
In my opinion.:good
HolyCityBully
11-30-2007, 11:57 AM
I think he loses to Pryor and Whitaker.
196osh
11-30-2007, 12:00 PM
Arguello at 130 Floyd UD 12 2/3 times other wise Arguello TKO /Arguello late TKO15 2/3 times otherwise Mayweather UD
Pryor at 140 Pryor UD
Whitaker at 135 Mayweather UD 6/10 times
Tszyu at 140 Tszyu KO
Morales at 130 Mayweather UD
Barrera at 130 Mayweather KO
Pacquaio at 130 Mayweather KO
JMM at 130 Mayweather KO
Stevie Johnston at 135 Mayweather UD
Camacho at 135 Camacho UD 2/3 times other time Mayweather UD
Chavez at 140 Chavez late TKO
yesihavearm
11-30-2007, 12:06 PM
Whitaker clear UD.
Pryor and Chavez tko wins.
50/50 against arguello
He beats everyone else
196osh
11-30-2007, 12:11 PM
[quote=Liston_Tyson]Arguello
Morales ( Morales UD )
Pacquaio ( Pacquaio KO )
[quote]
Do you actually think that Pac and Morales would beat Floyd at 130? Floyd would have handed both these guys a lesson in boxing. He was very very good at superfeather. Why do you think he would get beat?
Thread Stealer
11-30-2007, 12:12 PM
FMJ against:
Arguello at 130
Pryor at 140
Whitaker at 135
Tszyu at 140
Morales at 130
Barrera at 130
Pacquaio at 130
JMM at 130
Stevie Johnston at 135
Camacho at 135
Chavez at 140
I'd make Chavez, Whitaker, and Camacho slight favorites over him. Camacho was probably better @ 130, in fact the same goes for Mayweather. I think Pryor @ 140 is a more solid favorite over Mayweather than the rest, although I think Pryor is overrated historically.
The rest, I would make Mayweather the favorite.
Amsterdam
11-30-2007, 12:16 PM
I'd make Chavez, Whitaker, and Camacho slight favorites over him. Camacho was probably better @ 130, in fact the same goes for Mayweather. I think Pryor @ 140 is a more solid favorite over Mayweather than the rest, although I think Pryor is overrated historically.
The rest, I would make Mayweather the favorite.
Castillo is very competitive with Floyd in 2 fights but Chavez is just a slight favourite? Chavez is a 'super Castillo', I think he'd be just as much a favourite as Pryor is.
196osh
11-30-2007, 12:18 PM
Chavez is a 'super Castillo',
:lol: That is the best description of a fighter I have heard in a long time!!
Asterion
11-30-2007, 12:19 PM
FMJ against:
Arguello at 130
Pryor at 140
Whitaker at 135
Tszyu at 140
Morales at 130
Barrera at 130
Pacquaio at 130
JMM at 130
Stevie Johnston at 135
Camacho at 135
Chavez at 140
Mayweather UD12 Arguello
Pryor TKO7 Mayweather
Whitaker UD12 Mayweather
Mayweather UD12 Tszyu
Mayweather UD12 Morales
Mayweather UD12 Barrera
Mayweather UD12 Pacquiao
Mayweather UD12 Marquez
Mayweather UD12 Johnston
Mayweather UD12 Camacho
Chavez UD12 Mayweather
196osh
11-30-2007, 12:23 PM
[quote=196osh][quote=Liston_Tyson]Arguello
Morales ( Morales UD )
Pacquaio ( Pacquaio KO )
I just FEEL, no disrespect to you, that Pac has the ability to box well with Mayweather as well as out power him. I think the left hand would catch up to Mayweather. Morales in his prime, well, that might have been a mistake because I can see Morales' heart and pressure getting to Floyd but I also see Floyd box his ears off.
:D Man dw about it. If we all had the same opionons the forum would suck.
Floyd at 130 was like a mini roy jones jr. He let his hands go more he had as much power at 130 as Pac. If Pac tried to box Floyd Mayweather Jr he would get his ass handed to him.
Floyd is better at everything at that weight bar work rate:
Power - Floyd
Speed(Hand and Foot) - Floyd
Footwork - Floyd
Ring Generalship - Floyd
Defense - Floyd
Work rate - Pac
Boom_Boom
11-30-2007, 12:25 PM
Arguello at 130 - Floyd UD
Pryor at 140 - Floyd UD
Whitaker at 135 - Sweet Pea SD
Tszyu at 140 - Floyd UD
Morales at 130 - FLoyd UD
Barrera at 130 - Floyd UD
Pacquaio at 130 - Pac by KO..........seriously floyd by UD
JMM at 130 - Floyd UD
Stevie Johnston at 135 - Floyd UD
Camacho at 135 - Floyd UD
Chavez at 140 - FLoyd UD
Thread Stealer
11-30-2007, 12:28 PM
Castillo is very competitive with Floyd in 2 fights but Chavez is just a slight favourite? Chavez is a 'super Castillo', I think he'd be just as much a favourite as Pryor is.
Chavez is not as big and heavy as Castillo. Castillo's size and 9 pound advantage definitely helped make it a tougher fight for Mayweather. Up close, he was able to use this advantage. Chavez wasn't huge for his weight class like Castillo was.
Furthermore, when you have great fighters, which Chavez and Mayweather are, I tend to think the fights are usually competitive and rarely make one guy a big favorite over the other.
196osh
11-30-2007, 12:29 PM
[quote=196osh][quote=Liston_Tyson]
I agree that he would beat pac but his boxing ability was still not its best.... what has be been sleeping the past few years and not improved?
The one thing that was considerably better was his power of course
At 130 their power was pretty much equal a slight edge to Floyd IMO.
slender4
11-30-2007, 12:45 PM
Stevie Johnson is an ATG? (lol)
Rickypr18
11-30-2007, 12:57 PM
Pryor, Whitaker, and Chavez have a very good chance.
Pimp C
11-30-2007, 02:39 PM
I think he loses to Pryor and Whitaker.
I agree.
Illmatic
11-30-2007, 03:09 PM
Stevie Johnson is an ATG? (lol)
yea, i know, i just wanted a lot of recent champions b/w 130-140
brooklyn1550
11-30-2007, 03:10 PM
Mayweather UD Arguello
Pryor UD Mayweather
Whitaker UD Mayweather
Mayweather UD Tszyu
Mayweather UD Morales
Mayweather TKO10 Barrera
Mayweather TKO11 Pacquiao
Mayweather TKO9 Marquez
Mayweather UD Johnston
Mayweather UD Camacho
Chavez UD Mayweather
Asterion
11-30-2007, 03:13 PM
At 130, I think Floyd beats anybody.
At 135, he loses against the All Time Greats. He would lose against a lot in the Top10.
At 140, the only All Time Great he can beat is Tszyu, but it would be a great fight. He is competitive against the rest, like Locche, Cervantez. He would be defeated by Chavez and Pryor.
At 147, he can be beaten by many fighters. The same happens at 154.
PacDbest
11-30-2007, 03:19 PM
Mayweather UD Arguello
Pryor TKO 11 Mayweather
Whitaker UD Mayweather
Going to be razor thin, but Mayweather UD Tszyu
Mayweather TKO 8 Morales
Mayweather TKO 5 Barrera
Mayweather TKO 4 JMM
Mayweather UD Stevie Johnston
Mayweather UD Camacho
Chavez TKO 10 Mayweather
....
In my opinion.:good
Where's Pacquiao??? I guess Floyd ducks him right.:rofl :rofl :rofl
PacDbest
11-30-2007, 03:22 PM
Mayweather UD Arguello
Pryor TKO Mayweather
Whitaker UD Mayweather
Tszyu KO Mayweather
Mayweather UD Morales
Mayweather ud Barrera
Pacquiao TKO Mayweather
Mayweather SD Marquez
Mayweather UD Johnston
Mayweather UD Camacho
Chavez SD robbery Mayweather
Hatesrats
12-01-2007, 03:11 AM
Arguello at 130
Pryor at 140
Whitaker at 135
Tszyu at 140
Mayweather at 130
Mayweather at 130
Mayweather at 130
Mayweather at 130
Mayweather at 135
Mayweather at 135
Chavez at 140
errsta
12-01-2007, 03:54 AM
I think a guy that is rarely mentioned but would give mayweather fits at 147 is Jose Napoles.
brooklyn1550
12-01-2007, 03:57 AM
I think a guy that is rarely mentioned but would give mayweather fits at 147 is Jose Napoles.
Agreed - as would Emile Griffith
Mayweather-Curry would be interesting too
HauntingTheHoly
12-01-2007, 04:03 AM
Mayweather UD12 Arguello
Mayweather UD12 Pryor
Whitaker UD12 Mayweather
Mayweather UD12 Tszyu
Mayweather Draw Morales
Barrera UD12 Mayweather
Pacquiao TKO11 Mayweather
Marquez UD12 Mayweather
Mayweather (Fan-man pt.2 occurs, fight cancelled) Johnston
Mayweather TKO3 Camacho
Chavez UD12 Mayweather
brooklyn1550
12-01-2007, 06:54 AM
Mayweather UD12 Arguello
Mayweather UD12 Pryor
Whitaker UD12 Mayweather
Mayweather UD12 Tszyu
Mayweather Draw Morales
Barrera UD12 Mayweather
Pacquiao TKO11 Mayweather
Marquez UD12 Mayweather
Mayweather (Fan-man pt.2 occurs, fight cancelled) Johnston
Mayweather TKO3 Camacho
Chavez UD12 Mayweather
Please explain how Barrera, Pacquiao, Marquez, and Morales all win or at least draw with Floyd, and Aaron Pryor loses. And explain how Mayweather stops Hector Camacho in 3...
Wins all except Whitaker, Tszyu, Pryor. Oh and Chavez.
errsta
12-02-2007, 01:29 AM
Agreed - as would Emile Griffith
Mayweather-Curry would be interesting too
I don't see anyone beating the Curry that fought Mcrory. ANYONE.
Fedor Em
12-02-2007, 01:33 AM
I am making this 15 rounds, for the sake of the old school fighters.
Mayweather UD Arguello
Pryor UD Mayweather
Mayweather UD Morales
Mayweather TKO 13 Barrera
Mayweather UD Pacquiao
Mayweather UD Marquez
Camacho D Mayweather (I honestly cannot chose between the two because Camacho at his best was outstanding)
Whitaker UD Mayweather
Mayweather UD Tszyu
Chavez UD Mayweather
Mayweather UD Johnston
Arguello at 130 Floyd UD 12 2/3 times other wise Arguello TKO /Arguello late TKO15 2/3 times otherwise Mayweather UD
Pryor at 140 Pryor UD
Whitaker at 135 Mayweather UD 6/10 times
Tszyu at 140 Tszyu KO
Morales at 130 Mayweather UD
Barrera at 130 Mayweather KO
Pacquaio at 130 Mayweather KO
JMM at 130 Mayweather KO
Stevie Johnston at 135 Mayweather UD
Camacho at 135 Camacho UD 2/3 times other time Mayweather UD
Chavez at 140 Chavez late TKO
I think the same
Holmes' Jab
12-04-2007, 11:05 AM
FMJ against:
Arguello (Mayweather, UD)
Pryor (Pryor, TKO11)
Whitaker (Whitaker, UD)
Tszyu (Mayweather, UD)
Morales (Mayweather, UD)
Barrera (Mayweather, TKO9)
Pacquaio (Mayweather, TKO11)
JMM (Mayweather, SD)
Stevie Johnston (Mayweather, UD)
Camacho (Mayweather, UD)
Chavez (Chavez, TKO10)
Holmes' Jab
12-04-2007, 11:09 AM
Pryor, Whitaker, and Chavez have a very good chance.
Yep. I'd favour all three to beat him peak-for-peak. :good
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