how much is left of these older fighters?

[good right hand]

just a quick percent estimation of the very good but now older fighters that are still fighting for the heavy weight title. from the best years of their careers how much is left of these fighters?

david tua
michael moorer
evander holyfield
tommy morrison
riddick bowe
oliver mccall


my guess

tua maybe 80% as good as he once was?

mccall looks like he is at least 90% as good as his best

holyfield is probably about 60% as he was before

bowe im guessing cant be more then 30% then when he was beating herbie hide and jesse fergesen

[MrSmall]

Bowe is out of it.
Morrison will never fight.

Mccall looks pretty good, and Holy is Holy.

[Sonny's jab]

david tua


70%
Has a good chance against fighters who try to trade with him. That's not many, though anyone is capable of getting careless or stupid.


michael moorer


20%
Finished. A fighter of his style, strengths and weaknesses needs to be in shape, quick, and young. He's finished.

evander holyfield

50%
He's tough. He's got a lot of talent. He's in tip-top shape. But I question his ability to go a few hard rounds nowadays, and he's hittable. He can pick up a belt in these desperate times, though. He's worth taking notice of. If there were a good few monster young HWs out there I'd say no chance. But fact is, most of the new crop look mediocre, so Holy's not to be written off.

tommy morrison

10%
Finished. HIV positive or not. And I think he is.

riddick bowe

5%
Finished. Clubfighters can beat him.


oliver mccall


80%
He's tough. Strong. Good puncher. Determined. He has something left. He's hittable though, more so than Holyfield, but his chin seems to be holding up as well as ever.

McCall and Holyfield are the two I think have a chance of putting on good or even winning performances against recognized titlists/contenders.

Tua has an outside chance to capitalize on anyone's mistakes, but he's a long shot.

The others are going nowhere.

[theunderdog]

if bowe had anything left, he won't ba forced to facce the streetfighter in an mma fight

[The Whaler]

if bowe had anything left, he won't ba forced to facce the streetfighter in an mma fight

I heard about Mercer fighting Kimbo Slice, but I haven't heard anything about Bowe fighting in an MMA fight.

[theunderdog]

I heard about Mercer fighting Kimbo Slice, but I haven't heard anything about Bowe fighting in an MMA fight.


ow shit. i messed up. i was thinking of mercer. fuck it. my brain's too tired. sorry for the mess up. i'm heading to bed

[DamonD]

Sj's ratings look pretty reasonable across the board.

I'd probably argue to have Moorer higher, he still seems to be able to both bang and box when needed, it's more a question of getting in the right shape for him. I'd say about 40%.

[Rollo]

just a quick percent estimation of the very good but now older fighters that are still fighting for the heavy weight title. from the best years of their careers how much is left of these fighters?

david tua
michael moorer
evander holyfield
tommy morrison
riddick bowe
oliver mccall


my guess

tua maybe 80% as good as he once was?

mccall looks like he is at least 90% as good as his best

holyfield is probably about 60% as he was before

bowe im guessing cant be more then 30% then when he was beating herbie hide and jesse fergesen


Tua 65 %
Moorer 50%
Morrison 40%
McCall 80 - 90 %
Holyfield 50 %
Bowe 19.2 %

[Zakman]

Tua- 75 percent
Moorer - 20 percent
Morrison - 15 percent
Holyfield - 60 percent
Bowe - 5 percent
McCall - 70 percent

[Lampley]

Interesting thread. I agree that McCall is the guy most capable of doing something, with Holyfield as a long, long shot to bang out a victory in a title fight. But I think McCall is the only one with a real chance.

Moorer is cooked. He has no drive to train and has lost too much of his quickness to implement his former style. I think Tua is ahead of him now -- at least he still has a punch.

[tampa]

i havent see tua or mcall fighting lately

[tampa]

the ones ive seen recently
holyfield 50%
morisson -30%

[The Italarican]

Tua is more out of it than is being estimated. Perhaps he's not as physically shot as the other guys on the list, but mentally he has been out of the game for about 7 years. He lost his drive, which in many ways is as bad as, or even worse than, losing some speed or reflexes.

[MrMagic]

Even if Tua was a 100% he would not be a title holder today, nor yesteryear.

He's just not good enough to be a champ in any era, imho.