how come Cotto fights anybody?

[Slicknick56]

why is it that cotto is a fight fans dream? bloody, hard hitting, savage with tricks up his sleeve to make his opponent bleed and bruise and brutalness in his heart so that we can watch his opponent slowly be torn apart and his life slowly fade away.

anyway, i used to think jermaine fought anyone with no complaints but after he made the comment about IF THE MONEY IS RIGHT blah blah blah i realized that Cotto is the last of a dying breed.

he has never said a word about who he is fighting, he truly leaves it up to his managers who have done a helluva job. he deserved ALOT of credit. hes fighting the winner of Margo/Williams which is no joke and if he wins that then most likely will fight Mosley with no problem.

hes just vicious.

[hahahax]

who has cotto fought that was oh so dangerous?

[Asterion]

hes fighting the winner of Margo/Williams which is no joke and if he wins that then most likely will fight Mosley with no problem.


That would be great... but how do you know?

[Slicknick56]

who has cotto fought that was oh so dangerous?

is that a serious question?

[Tencount85]

He's good for the sport. He's brutal, causes damage and always tries to make a good fight. He also seems like a good guy in general.

[Slicknick56]

That would be great... but how do you know?

well we know hes fighting the winner of margo/williams. i dont know about mosley but i know he wont take a backwards step.

[Tko4]

who has cotto fought that was oh so dangerous?

Cotto takes tons of high risk, low reward fights. He went through a string of previously undefeated fighters for not a whole lot of cash. That's called fighting anyone. Like the OP said, he throws down with anyone they set in front of him. Who's he ever ducked?

[Slicknick56]

Cotto takes tons of high risk, low reward fights. He went through a string of previously undefeated fighters for not a whole lot of cash. That's called fighting anyone. Like the OP said, he throws down with anyone they set in front of him. Who's he ever ducked?

exactly, has the guy ever whined about fighting anyone? nahhhh

[PorkChopExpress]

I heard it was because he wanted to impress MSTR... aint that right roy?

;)

[HandsOfGold]

Because he believes he can beat anyone he faces. It doesn't matter who it is, if his managers and promoter put them in the ring, Cotto will fight them.

[carras]

boxing really needs more fighters like him

[hahahax]

I don't buy into that... a lot of fighters will fight whoever.. until they get a name and have the opportunity to choose. Wait a few years still before saying he fights anyone.

And being undefeated does not mean being a threat, it means you never lost, nothing more, nothing less.

[El Presidente]

Cotto is the man!

[brooklyn1550]

He is an old school fighter who is an animal in the ring...he's great for the sport.

[djrock247]

I don't see how anyone in their right mind can complain about the level of competition that Cotto has faced. Look at his age, look at the amount of fights. If anything, I'd complain that they brought him along too quickly, but he's answered every challenge.

[brooklyn1550]

I don't see how anyone in their right mind can complain about the level of competition that Cotto has faced. Look at his age, look at the amount of fights. If anything, I'd complain that they brought him along too quickly, but he's answered every challenge.

He's been brought along by Top Rank better than almost any fighter I have seen.

[hopkinsfan07]

i quite like cotto hes a good bloke

he shows lots of heart in his fights if he had no heart he would of been knocked out in alot of his fights his chin isent great and he pull through everytime

[BigReg]

I don't see how anyone in their right mind can complain about the level of competition that Cotto has faced. Look at his age, look at the amount of fights. If anything, I'd complain that they brought him along too quickly, but he's answered every challenge.

He's definately not been brought along too quickly. He's been brought along too slow. He's fought some nice fighters, but he has not fought any top level guys yet. By the time Jermain Taylor was 26 he had fought Hopkins twice, Floyd had fought Genero Hernandez, Corrales, and Castillo by 26. De La Hoya fought Whitaker, Chavez and Quartey by 26. Pac had fought Barrera, Morales, and Marquez by 26. I could go on but you get the point. Cotto will be 27 this October, and his best victory is against a guy who was coming off a 1 year suspension and had lost 2 straight fights. If Cotto wants to be an elite fighter, he better step it up quickly.

[MSTR]

why is it that cotto is a fight fans dream? bloody, hard hitting, savage with tricks up his sleeve to make his opponent bleed and bruise and brutalness in his heart so that we can watch his opponent slowly be torn apart and his life slowly fade away.

anyway, i used to think jermaine fought anyone with no complaints but after he made the comment about IF THE MONEY IS RIGHT blah blah blah i realized that Cotto is the last of a dying breed.

he has never said a word about who he is fighting, he truly leaves it up to his managers who have done a helluva job. he deserved ALOT of credit. hes fighting the winner of Margo/Williams which is no joke and if he wins that then most likely will fight Mosley with no problem.

hes just vicious.

I totally agree. Haters will try to say you don't know for sure and rarara... But I have no doubt what so ever that these fights will take place. He has never bucked over money or opponents before, why would he start now. He is very confident in his team, and very confident in his abilities. All along he has said he will fight whoever his team puts in front of him.

[MSTR]

He's definately not been brought along too quickly. He's been brought along too slow. He's fought some nice fighters, but he has not fought any top level guys yet. By the time Jermain Taylor was 26 he had fought Hopkins twice, Floyd had fought Genero Hernandez, Corrales, and Castillo by 26. De La Hoya fought Whitaker, Chavez and Quartey by 26. Pac had fought Barrera, Morales, and Marquez by 26. I could go on but you get the point. Cotto will be 27 this October, and his best victory is against a guy who was coming off a 1 year suspension and had lost 2 straight fights. If Cotto wants to be an elite fighter, he better step it up quickly.

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[YOUNG*LORD]

I don't buy into that... a lot of fighters will fight whoever.. until they get a name and have the opportunity to choose. Wait a few years still before saying he fights anyone.

And being undefeated does not mean being a threat, it means you never lost, nothing more, nothing less.He's been saying it for years...and he has a name...he doesn't have DLH's or Mosely name but he has a name.

[YOUNG*LORD]

He's definately not been brought along too quickly. He's been brought along too slow. He's fought some nice fighters, but he has not fought any top level guys yet. By the time Jermain Taylor was 26 he had fought Hopkins twice, Floyd had fought Genero Hernandez, Corrales, and Castillo by 26. De La Hoya fought Whitaker, Chavez and Quartey by 26. Pac had fought Barrera, Morales, and Marquez by 26. I could go on but you get the point. Cotto will be 27 this October, and his best victory is against a guy who was coming off a 1 year suspension and had lost 2 straight fights. If Cotto wants to be an elite fighter, he better step it up quickly.who's to say he was moved too slow...what credentials do you have. You have to look at divisions and opportunities...you can't compare apple to oranges...don't be ridiculous.

[dwilson]

Can someone please inform me of the Cotto situation? On this site he is regarded as being amazing, which his record testifies to but not knowing enough about his previous opponents such as who they were, were they any good or just names that look good on a record but are not real dangers such as the shot judah.

[albaneze]

All the info you are looking for My Friend can be found over here:

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[Caper]

Can someone please inform me of the Cotto situation? On this site he is regarded as being amazing, which his record testifies to but not knowing enough about his previous opponents such as who they were, were they any good or just names that look good on a record but are not real dangers such as the shot judah.

:huh :verysad

Rumor has it Judah had an incredible camp and he looked great physically during the fight. Shot is what Castillo looked like in the Hatton fight...Shot is what Roy looked like in his third fight against Tarver...Shot is what Morales looked like in his second fight against Pacman...

Since your a Newbie/full member I'll let you off the hook with this comment but lets try not to let this happen again ok. :smoke

[albaneze]

COTTO Screwed Judah and i was more than happy to see that moron big mouth of Judah screwed.
Let the best and the more humble Fighters win for all times.
Judah the streetfight gambler, what an insult to professional boxing.

GO COTTOOOO.. You are the man.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Can someone please inform me of the Cotto situation? On this site he is regarded as being amazing, which his record testifies to but not knowing enough about his previous opponents such as who they were, were they any good or just names that look good on a record but are not real dangers such as the shot judah.

How could Judah possibly be shot when he arguably won 4 rounds against the number one P4P fighter in the sport, knocking him down unofficially, a year earlier? :huh

As far as previous opponents go, N'Dou, Maussa, Torres, and Malignaggi all won world titles/belts/trinkets, whatever you want to call it, after fighting Cotto.

[FiveStoneFists]

Cotto has been fighting decent fighters. I am still not sold on his punch resistance either, but the next 5 fights or so will determine his true standind. I think that Cotto may be overrated by some. Not sure who beats who at 140-147 the upcoming fights. I hope for Mosley - Cotto next, or Hatton - Cotto.

[Chiko_Tech]

Can someone please inform me of the Cotto situation? On this site he is regarded as being amazing, which his record testifies to but not knowing enough about his previous opponents such as who they were, were they any good or just names that look good on a record but are not real dangers such as the shot judah.
That is not a shot Judah and Cotto with only 26 years old had fought 8 current and former world champions (belt holders) and all of them where not shot, and 5 undefeted fighters, there are not so many fighter with taht resume with only 26 years. I will include 2 olimpic medalist. on that list if that is not a good resume for only a 26 year old fighter what the fuck you think is a good resume.

[dwilson]

Thanks for putting me straight. I just wanted to know what all the fuss was about as i have only caught one fight (judah) and he does look good but Maligagi, Maussa and N'dou are hardly worthy of real mention when calculating the greatness of a fighter. I have heard alot about him fighting alot of great guys but you people know as well as anyone about cerain fighters having inflated records (im not saying this is Cotto obviously). Did anyone think that Judah could beat Cotto before the fight?

[BigReg]

who's to say he was moved too slow...what credentials do you have. You have to look at divisions and opportunities...you can't compare apple to oranges...don't be ridiculous.

When he fought at 140, Tzyu, Hatton, Mayweather, and Vivian Harris were all there and he didn't fight any of them. He's at 147 now. 147 is probably the most talent laiden division in boxing. He has to fight the big dogs in this division. I'm not saying Cotto is scared or unwilling, but the fact of the matter is when he fought at 140 the division was loaded and now he's fighting in a loaded WW division. Top rank has shown that they will put young stars in there with good fighters(Mayweather, DLH). The only dangerous fighters that Arum seems to be lining up for Cotto are other Top Rank fighters. This leads me to believe that Cotto's handlers might not have the utmost confidence in their fighter. If Cotto wants to be an elite fighter he has to at least fight a legitimate champion. So far he has not done that(he has only won two vacant "titles").

[achillesthegreat]

Easy - Cotto lets his promoter do the work. Just like Morales and DLH did. Thankfully Cotto has a promoter who does take risks.

[igotJUIC3]

Cotto's toughest challenge to date was Judah.....other than that he really hasn't done much.....he is a good fighter though and i would like to see him against Hatton rather Floyd vs Hatton.

The only knock i have on Cotto is this...he simply gets hit and stunned a awful lot and when does start fighting caliber fighters....such as Mosley, Floyd, Hatton, Margarito, or even Williams...these fighters actually are as gifted if not more gifted than him and could very well beat him and make him look very bad.

[thewoo]

why is it that cotto is a fight fans dream? bloody, hard hitting, savage with tricks up his sleeve to make his opponent bleed and bruise and brutalness in his heart so that we can watch his opponent slowly be torn apart and his life slowly fade away.

anyway, i used to think jermaine fought anyone with no complaints but after he made the comment about IF THE MONEY IS RIGHT blah blah blah i realized that Cotto is the last of a dying breed.

he has never said a word about who he is fighting, he truly leaves it up to his managers who have done a helluva job. he deserved ALOT of credit. hes fighting the winner of Margo/Williams which is no joke and if he wins that then most likely will fight Mosley with no problem.

hes just vicious.

So jermain wants to get well compensated for fighting the best and that means that he is not fighting them? There is no one out there that you can say that Taylor should have fought and didn't

[Knob McDude]

I love the people who think Cotto's chin is a major problem.

How about we look at it another way?

#1 - The reason he seems chinny is because he isn't a safety first fighter. He is gonna walk through your shots, or try to, because he knows if he keeps doing it, you are gonna wear down mentally and physically. When he does get buzzed on occasion, it's cuz he gets laced with some massive bombs (Excluding the Corley temple shot), bombs that would straight out drop most others. ( For anyone who doubts this, rewatch the Judah fight. He was buzzed 2, maybe 3 times, in this fight, yet he got hit with several other bombs and took them well.)

#2 - His ability to recover is second to none. I've never seen a fighter do the "Judah" shuffle one second, and within a short period of time is dictating the action and pressing again. (Gatti is similar, but he doesn't recover nearly as quick. He just seems to be recovered, because the way he fights back so viciously when hurt.)

#3 - The most important attribute Miguel has proven to have is HEART. Name a fighter that buzzed him, knocked him down or straight up hurt him, and went on to finish the fight. The man comes back from adversity like a throwback, a guy fighting for his life. This attribute means everything to a boxer, because without it, even a superior boxer aint worth shit.

Cotto isn't perfect, and he hasn't fought an elite or ATG yet, but for his age and number of fights he's doing awesome things. The only people complaining about his chin, or competition are Euro's and clueless haters.

How a boxing fan can hate on a guy who takes risks with no reward, always makes fights fun to watch, and shows the heart of a lion is beyond me.

[kNIVEK]

much props to cotto. got a lotta respect for that man.

[psychopath]

who has cotto fought that was oh so dangerous?

Every fighter the guy has faced were dangerous. :yep

They are not HYPED fighters yet though.

[YOUNG*LORD]

When he fought at 140, Tzyu, Hatton, Mayweather, and Vivian Harris were all there and he didn't fight any of them. He's at 147 now. 147 is probably the most talent laiden division in boxing. He has to fight the big dogs in this division. I'm not saying Cotto is scared or unwilling, but the fact of the matter is when he fought at 140 the division was loaded and now he's fighting in a loaded WW division. Top rank has shown that they will put young stars in there with good fighters(Mayweather, DLH). The only dangerous fighters that Arum seems to be lining up for Cotto are other Top Rank fighters. This leads me to believe that Cotto's handlers might not have the utmost confidence in their fighter. If Cotto wants to be an elite fighter he has to at least fight a legitimate champion. So far he has not done that(he has only won two vacant "titles").Learn the boxing game...Hatton ran to 147, then Cotto went to 147 and Hatton ran back down....PBF said that Cotto was too green for him....and Vivian Harris got knocked out by Maussa...a fighter Cotto destoyed. KT...didn'
t he stop fighting and starred in "Dancing with the Stars" the Aussie version? What else you got Bigreg...:deal

[Chiko_Tech]

Cotto's toughest challenge to date was Judah.....other than that he really hasn't done much.....he is a good fighter though and i would like to see him against Hatton rather Floyd vs Hatton.

The only knock i have on Cotto is this...he simply gets hit and stunned a awful lot and when does start fighting caliber fighters....such as Mosley, Floyd, Hatton, Margarito, or even Williams...these fighters actually are as gifted if not more gifted than him and could very well beat him and make him look very bad.
Yea yea the same if cotto beat mrgo you wil exclude margo if cotto beat williams you will exclude williams if cotto beat hatton you will exclude hatton, just like everybody exclude judah.

[Sheikh]

he only fights hand picked opponents.

[Knob McDude]

he only fights hand picked opponents.

Good thing this website doesn't hand pick people with a clue to do the posting here.

If that was the case, this place would only have 10% of the membership it has now.

Where do you think that puts you?

Ignorant fool.

[BigReg]

Learn the boxing game...Hatton ran to 147, then Cotto went to 147 and Hatton ran back down....PBF said that Cotto was too green for him....and Vivian Harris got knocked out by Maussa...a fighter Cotto destoyed. KT...didn'
t he stop fighting and starred in "Dancing with the Stars" the Aussie version? What else you got Bigreg...:deal

Both Hatton and Cotto were at 140 for 5 years together, they could've fought after Hatton fought Tzyu . How come he couldn't fight Harris before he got knocked out? Floyd did say Cotto was green, but tried to fight him afterwards(he was turned down). What was the first thing Cotto's handlers did when he came up to WW? They paid a guy step aside money so that Cotto could fight for a paper title. This move then forced Cotto defend his paper title against sorry ass Oktay Urkal. The thread says "how come Cotto fights anybody?" However, he has not fought any elite fighters, he has not even beaten a legit champ(both titles were vacant when he won them). I'm not blaming it all on Cotto, but you can't say he fights anybody, when he hasn't fought any top tier fighters.

[Brickhaus]

Did anyone think that Judah could beat Cotto before the fight?

A lot of people did, but they've mostly shut up or disappeared by now. I'd say 30 - 40% of the people on here thought Judah was going to win though.

[birddog]

Cotto is being brought along just fine, He's been fighting good fighters with different skillsets and has been developing. Regarding him and Hatton both being at 140 for a while, apparently his management didn't think he was ready at the time or the money wasn't there yet regardless.

For the latter part of his 140 campaign, he was obviously draining to make that weight as his body filled out, and developing as a fighter.

To those that critisize Cotto, would you prefer that he had been brought along like a Mugabi or Cooney, to have been thrown in over his head possibly too soon, and ruin a potentially good fighter.

He seems positioned well in a pretty good welterweight division for some great fights and paydays.

Love Cotto and his come to fight workman ethic, no bitching complaining etc. Also seems like a good guy, as much as you can tell. Reminds me of Hagler and other throwback fighters in that context.

[YOUNG*LORD]

Both Hatton and Cotto were at 140 for 5 years together, they could've fought after Hatton fought Tzyu . How come he couldn't fight Harris before he got knocked out? Floyd did say Cotto was green, but tried to fight him afterwards(he was turned down). What was the first thing Cotto's handlers did when he came up to WW? They paid a guy step aside money so that Cotto could fight for a paper title. This move then forced Cotto defend his paper title against sorry ass Oktay Urkal. The thread says "how come Cotto fights anybody?" However, he has not fought any elite fighters, he has not even beaten a legit champ(both titles were vacant when he won them). I'm not blaming it all on Cotto, but you can't say he fights anybody, when he hasn't fought any top tier fighters.are you retarded? Cotto had half the fight hatton had at the time...and also Hatton didn't call out Cotto, shit he would'nt even mention his name, so what the fuck are you talking about?...he wasn't fighting anywhere but England and he called the shots...not a new jack like Cotto. If Hatton really wanted Cotto the fight would've happened...but of course hatton pussed out. Why is it that all of a sudden Cotto is the one who controls who fights him...All Harris wanted was PBF...he talked alot of shit, but was only gunning for the big dogs...he didn't want Cotto...at the time he wanted bigger and better things but Ko'd anyway. BTW why are you questioning Cotto for not fighting an elite...when fucking hatton didn't fight an elite until he was almost at 40 wins...why the double standard? If you take KT out of the equation...his resume would be shit compared to Cotto's

[Relentless]

at the time mayweather challenged him cotto had about 23 fights.

[BOOKA]

Since your a Newbie/full member I'll let you off the hook with this comment but lets try not to let this happen again ok. :smoke

Does time spent on the internet make someone a bigger boxing expert then ?

[taino]

mofo need to stop hateing on cotto the guy leves it all in the ring blood and guts.and his glory is testing his own blood and giving a onslot of punishment to his opponents .he is truly one of the last of old school fighter
enjoy his style of fighting and stop hating on him.

last of the moricans

[BigReg]

are you retarded? Cotto had half the fight hatton had at the time...and also Hatton didn't call out Cotto, shit he would'nt even mention his name, so what the fuck are you talking about?...he wasn't fighting anywhere but England and he called the shots...not a new jack like Cotto. If Hatton really wanted Cotto the fight would've happened...but of course hatton pussed out. Why is it that all of a sudden Cotto is the one who controls who fights him...All Harris wanted was PBF...he talked alot of shit, but was only gunning for the big dogs...he didn't want Cotto...at the time he wanted bigger and better things but Ko'd anyway. BTW why are you questioning Cotto for not fighting an elite...when fucking hatton didn't fight an elite until he was almost at 40 wins...why the double standard? If you take KT out of the equation...his resume would be shit compared to Cotto's

Why would I be questioning Hatton's resume in a thread that says "How come Cotto fights anybody" ? If there was a thread talking about how Hatton fights anybody I would question why he never fought Cotto and Floyd. Also, say what you want, but the point I made was that it's hard to say that the guy fights anybody when not only has he not yet beat an elite fighter, but he hasn't even beat a legitimate champ. The guy is going on 27 and he has fought in two talent laiden divisions. Yet despite this his best win to date was against a guy coming off two losses and a 1 year suspension. For 2 years I've been waiting for this guy to take the next step and it hasn't happened yet. I'm not saying it's all his fault, but it hasn't happened.

[DanePugilist]

Just wait and see - Cotto will eventually say what Taylor says. I wouldn't blame him for it - afterall - once you get to the top, you better make sure you make the money you intend to live on for the rest of your life.

As up now - he is not at the very top(yet) - thus he will still fight whoever.

[the brown bomber]

I thought this thread was a joke at first. Cotto was an olympian. In the past Olympians like Leonard, DeLaHoya, Whitaker etc were in mega fights and winning them far sooner than Cotto. Cotto certainly isn't old school in his willingness to fight anyone. I mean where are the great names on his record? Judah:patsch

[taino]

judah give pbf hell the first half of the fight

[taino]

ya lets talk about big names that weren't over the hill

[Relentless]

I thought this thread was a joke at first. Cotto was an olympian. In the past Olympians like Leonard, DeLaHoya, Whitaker etc were in mega fights and winning them far sooner than Cotto. Cotto certainly isn't old school in his willingness to fight anyone. I mean where are the great names on his record? Judah:patsch

you do know he is only 26 right??

actually the best fighter he has beat is malignaggi.

look at the records of the fighters he faced.

unfortunatley for cotto he doesn't have duran and hearns in his weight class.

[obedt]

Cotto was supposed to fight Margarito in June. That was supposed to be his first legit champion. When Margarito turned his back on the fight Judah was selected so that they could sell out the Garden. Cotto's next opponent will probably either be Antonio Margarito or Sugar Shane Mosley (either one good enough for you guys?). Newspapers have asked him his preference. You should already know what his answer is.

[the_what]

Cotto would have had Margarito on his resume already. But the Tijuana Chihuahua punked out and they replaced him with Judah. Dont worry, Margarito will get his this coming Fall.

[igotJUIC3]

Yea yea the same if cotto beat mrgo you wil exclude margo if cotto beat williams you will exclude williams if cotto beat hatton you will exclude hatton, just like everybody exclude judah.

uhhhhhh...what????:think

[obedt]

ARE YOU CLASSING ME IN YOU GUYS?? IF SO READ MY REPLY AGAIN AND TELL ME WHERE IVE BEEN OBJECTIVE ABOUT COTTO
It was more directed at brown bomber, but then again nothing I said was offensive, so I would have nothing to apologize for even if it were directed towards you. I think Margarito/Sugar Shane is just about as good as it gets in the ww division. Both are established and although Mosley 'only' has an interim belt no one is going to question his resume.

[obedt]

OH RIGHT I WERENT AFTER AN APPOLOGY ANYWAY,JUST SAYING IM NOT CALLING COTTO IF YOU GOT THAT IMPRESSION:thumbsup
No prob. It was my bad - misinterpreted the tone in your post. :patsch

Anyways, the ww division is tearing it up right now. Can't wait till July 14. 10 more days!!!!

[pipe wrenched]

Cotto is the unmistakeable MAN!!! Dude is the whole show.:happy