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MrMagic
12-01-2007, 12:12 AM
I was amazed of what he said in the last 24/7 episodes, he's portraying himself like a thug, a gangster from the ghetto.. with no parents or no love.

I found an interesting article where Jeff Mayweather explained something.

For me, it was a choice to leave. I always try to put my best foot forward and I’m all about family, and up until his like 10th fight, I never took a dime from Floyd Jr. I’m a modest person, I don’t need the fame. In my heart, I know what I have done. That's good enough for me. One day, when we were doing a radio show in Vegas, he shows up with James Prince. Myself or Roger didn’t know anything about this guy, but Floyd wanted him there. Floyd was the one whom put him on the fight scene, that’s how he got Winky Wright and Diego Corrales, Mark "Too Sharp” Johnson and also former IBF Jr Lightweight Champion, Steve "Two Pound" Forbes. I think he just took him to Houston and showed him the big houses, the nice cars and many other things as well. He also promised Floyd that he can establish his own rap label. Soon after, Floyd would act like he wanted to be a thug or something, he didn’t have any real life struggles or lived in the projects or did anything to give him any street credibility He grew up with a loving family in which we all did our part to help him reach his dreams. He never even worked a job growing up.

Interesting comments from Jeff Mayweather in this article.

To Floyd.. he needs to grow up and stop playing. He always said he gives credit to those who earned it, well.. it looks like his family has earned some credit, and I think his dad, his uncle and Jeff have been there for him all his life, he should start showing some respect.

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 12:17 AM
:lol: :lol: i guess we now know how much of a thug growing up in the hood floyd is. he isn't! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: figures!

Money and fame change people.
Glad we have the Kelly Pavlik's and the Ricky Hatton's :good

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 12:26 AM
:good amen bro! i will give pbf all the boxing props in the world, but nothing else!
I'm on the same page.. he's a great boxer.
But unfortunately, it looks like he's a complete douchebag.

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 12:32 AM
Wow, I log on for the first time in a long while and to my surprise another Floyd hating thread. How original.
If you would open your eyes and read what I have to say, and what Jeff had to say.. you would understand.
I do respect Floyd for the fighter that he is, but I question his personality, and his charisma.. is there something wrong in that? :huh

Alcaldemb
12-01-2007, 12:39 AM
Wow, I log on for the first time in a long while and to my surprise another Floyd hating thread. How original.

I have known Jeff for about three years now and that isn't a "hate" thread. The truth is that Floyd grew up with a supportive family, all this talk of him being beaten and growing up in the ghetto is bunk. If you knew Jeff you would know how much it pains him that his family has been ripped apart because of ego, and how much his family's name is being tarnhished because of stupid marketing gimmicks.

David UK
12-01-2007, 12:39 AM
Boxings fans might admire Mayweather's skills, but very few respect him

lillarry
12-01-2007, 12:46 AM
Wow, I log on for the first time in a long while and to my surprise another Floyd hating thread. How original.


For once my friend, Im going to have to agree with you. I swear this is like the 10th one Ive read today. Pathetic

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 12:48 AM
I have known Jeff for about three years now and that isn't a "hate" thread. The truth is that Floyd grew up with a supportive family, all this talk of him being beaten and growing up in the ghetto is bunk. If you knew Jeff you would know how much it pains him that his family has been ripped apart because of ego, and how much his family's name is being tarnhished because of stupid marketing gimmicks.

It does feel as though Roger is the only one in the family receiving props from Jr himself. It's sad to see how split they seem, Jeff seem like a real down to earth guy, in all his interviews I've read he's been top class.
Whenever I see a 24/7 episode, or an interview with Floyd Jr, I always hear him talking about either money or his backgroud, how he was beaten and so on. We never hear about what support he got from his whole family, damn.. he had his dad, Roger and Jeff literally for free for a long time, now that's support and love... I don't know what Floyd is on about sometimes, and I don't know the whole story.. I bet none of us do know the full story, but the least thing he can do is give props to those who deserve props, like the man said himself.

brick city
12-01-2007, 12:52 AM
I don't think PBF acts like a thug, he's just confident. I know what real thugs are like and I never heard him mention he was a thug. I'm know thug but I consider myself cool and layed back.

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 12:53 AM
For once my friend, Im going to have to agree with you. I swear this is like the 10th one Ive read today. Pathetic
Again, I'm not hating.. I'm questioning something that Floyd have stated over and over that he stands for, loyalty.
He needs to give credit to those who earned it, it seems more like he's backstabbing and acting, he's got a good background from what I can see :huh

Dantes
12-01-2007, 01:02 AM
It's interesting to see that he's a pretender in real life, a great fighter but he must have really low self-esteem. Plus he hangs with Fiddy so he has shit taste too.

Betty Swollocks
12-01-2007, 02:17 AM
it's nothing new, Mayweather is a fake and a horrible little spoilt shithead.
The part I don't get is why would he lie about his background?

Fab2333
12-01-2007, 02:36 AM
Money and fame change people.
Glad we have the Kelly Pavlik's and the Ricky Hatton's :good

That may be true but we will se how humble Kelly Pavlik is when he start making the kinda money Floyd is making. We will see then

Betty Swollocks
12-01-2007, 02:41 AM
How rich. This coming from a guy with an avatar pic of a boxer who's been busted twice for steroids, is a scumbag and admitted to selling crack to kids and their mothers. You have no room to talk.

:lol: where did you hear that?
Toney is no scumbag either.
Also, you don't see him making false claims about a tough childhood etc then crying when Larry Merchant tells him he sucks.

Illstate
12-01-2007, 02:48 AM
I see everyone agrees with Jeff that Floyd had a wonderful life. I'm sure if I check some of you guys previous post I might see something written about how his family is all crack heads.

Illstate
12-01-2007, 02:51 AM
Money and fame change people.
Glad we have the Kelly Pavlik's and the Ricky Hatton's :good Yes Than God for Ricky Hatton, Kelly Pavlik, Jesus, The pope, and all of the other wonderful white people.
It's too bad they even allow the undesireables in the sport.

DobyZhee
12-01-2007, 02:55 AM
Grand Rapids is no Detroit. Nuff said

Illstate
12-01-2007, 03:10 AM
It's interesting to see that he's a pretender in real life, a great fighter but he must have really low self-esteem. Plus he hangs with Fiddy so he has shit taste too.50 cent's Net worth is estimated at 500 Million dollars.

baguettesurgeon
12-01-2007, 03:22 AM
:rofl They run and hide under the covers especially when you mention the Collazo fight.

You're the one that has been hiding after you let slip about your stalking exploits:deal

You on WI-FI in a bush outside Floyd's house or something?

HauntingTheHoly
12-01-2007, 03:39 AM
It's interesting when one looks at at the "why" regarding Floyds reputation for being one of the fakest motherfuckers alive. The guy basically started watching MTV at some point and saw Fitty and a handful of others bullshitting about how "real" they are. So then, monkey-see-monkey-do, Floyd starts screaming at everybody about how "real" he is - and this is the proof that he's phony. He's like a child. And phony as hell.

G_RapPBF
12-01-2007, 07:58 AM
Floyds father was a drug dealer, his mother and aunt were drug addicts. His father was shot in the leg while he was holding Floyd. That pretty much says it all about his upbringing despite what his father says. I doubt Vicky saw any of that in his pub.

Relentless
12-01-2007, 08:04 AM
floyds father might have been a drug dealer but he wasn't selling drugs to put food on the table, he was dealing cocaine for the big money, he wasn't out in the streets selling drugs,

and so what if his mom took drugs?

2 of my older brother are addicts, one used to sell, does that make me a thug?

G_RapPBF
12-01-2007, 08:16 AM
floyds father might have been a drug dealer but he wasn't selling drugs to put food on the table, he was dealing cocaine for the big money, he wasn't out in the streets selling drugs,

and so what if his mom took drugs?

2 of my older brother are addicts, one used to sell, does that make me a thug?

Mayweathers not a thug either. Judah is a thug, Judah still roles dice and beats up people on the street. Mayweather is just cocky and arrogant and lives a flashy lifestyle. Thats about as far away from thug as you can get. But when you look at his father and uncle, and you can see that besides boxing these guys dont have much going on in their skulls, then when Mayweather says he grew up 7 to 1 room with no electricity I believe him.

PowerPuncher
12-01-2007, 08:33 AM
Floyd Snr doesnt deny beating Floyd and the fact remains they barely talk now. Something must have gone down.

I dont think Floyd grew up in a ghetto but maybe his upbringing had tough times, you can have tough times without been dirt broke

maracho
12-01-2007, 08:41 AM
Plenty a rich kid have turned to the ghetto when mom and dad were no longer around

mykolakozak
12-01-2007, 10:45 AM
Floyd's character strikes me more of that of a rapper, not a sportsmen. Then again, Ali and Tyson were not too far from him also.

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 11:05 AM
Regarding these hate threads. Well, you have to understand most of these guys (won't name names, you know who you are) are the same people who, if saw someone acting like PBF in their city (or on tv for the rednecks) would instantly say, "Now look at that dumb ____" (i'll let you fill it in with your imagination), so it's no surprise to me when these guys pretend they like Floyd for his boxing ability, but despise him for his attitude. There's a couple of em, who search these forums for "Floyd Mayweather", and never ever contribute anything positive to say about him, only insults on how "he's fake, haha". Again, these guys are pretending to be boxing fans, but how can you be a fan of boxing and not admire the ability of the pound for pound best? Or rather, how can you be a fan of boxing and have nothing good to say about boxing's finest? Most of these posters have pictures of white boxers as their avatar. They want us to believe race has nothing to do with it, but if their white hero ever swears, or acts like a drunken fool, he's just "one of the guys".

Let's get back to boxing folks?

This is a boxing forum, we discuss everything here.
Do you think it's that wrong to question his personality, at least the one he is showing us, and the one he is showing his father, etc?
The other guy said something about me being racist or whatnot, thats complete and utter bullshit, I am just questioning Floyds personality, that is it! Now if you can't take it, or even leave a valid comment without bursting out for your sensitivity on Floyd, then you should stay out of this thread.
Thanks.

Illmatic
12-01-2007, 12:10 PM
so he portrays himself as growing up with no parents, but his mom makes an appearance on 24/7? :rofl

Beebs
12-01-2007, 01:52 PM
Floyds from a nice neighborhood in a city that is mostly nice neighborhoods with a few rough spots, Grand Rapids. He is in no way shape or form a thug.

HolyCityBully
12-01-2007, 01:52 PM
If your mother was on drugs when you grew up, she wasnt really "there". See what I mean?

Relentless
12-01-2007, 02:10 PM
not really, drug addicts aren't how people make them out to be, alot of them are normal and work, they just have an addiction.

maracho
12-01-2007, 03:14 PM
Every town has its ghetto and a parent on drugs is usually a lost parent.

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 03:22 PM
What are you, an investigative reporter?
Not really, no.
I thought this was a boxing forum, were we discussed our great fighters... apparently some people get emotional over some reason, claiming im either racist or a hater. :huh

K2ray
12-01-2007, 03:22 PM
Regarding these hate threads. Well, you have to understand most of these guys (won't name names, you know who you are) are the same people who, if saw someone acting like PBF in their city (or on tv for the rednecks) would instantly say, "Now look at that dumb ____" (i'll let you fill it in with your imagination), so it's no surprise to me when these guys pretend they like Floyd for his boxing ability, but despise him for his attitude. There's a couple of em, who search these forums for "Floyd Mayweather", and never ever contribute anything positive to say about him, only insults on how "he's fake, haha". Again, these guys are pretending to be boxing fans, but how can you be a fan of boxing and not admire the ability of the pound for pound best? Or rather, how can you be a fan of boxing and have nothing good to say about boxing's finest? Most of these posters have pictures of white boxers as their avatar. They want us to believe race has nothing to do with it, but if their white hero ever swears, or acts like a drunken fool, he's just "one of the guys".

Let's get back to boxing folks?

Fuck it, I'm naming names, let's start with that dooshbag Muttley

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 03:24 PM
we have? we have? Fuckin stan.
Oh sorry my lord, I was apparently wrong on the whole situation.
I will hereby call Floyd Mayweather, Floyd "Little man Liston" Mayweather. :bowdown

Beebs
12-01-2007, 03:24 PM
Every town has its ghetto and a parent on drugs is usually a lost parent.

Floyd is not from the ghetto, his family had at least middle class money, my parents lived near where the mayweathers are from when they were first married.

K2ray
12-01-2007, 03:25 PM
Floyds from a nice neighborhood in a city that is mostly nice neighborhoods with a few rough spots, Grand Rapids. He is in no way shape or form a thug.

Are you from there:deal, or were you just looking at its wiki page:patsch :lol:

K2ray
12-01-2007, 03:27 PM
Oh sorry my lord, I was apparently wrong on the whole situation.
I will hereby call Floyd Mayweather, Floyd "Little man Liston" Mayweather. :bowdown

I hear there are quite a few large skinhead movements in Sweden (I do recall the time african-american tourists were atttacked by Swedish neo-nazis during the euro soccer championships not that long ago)?

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 03:30 PM
I hear there are quite a few large skinhead movements in Sweden (I do recall the time african-american tourists were atttacked by Swedish neo-nazis during the euro soccer championships not that long ago)?
There's a few in breed retards just like in every country.
If I was there personally, I'd glass them motherfuckers to death, and believe me.. racism isn't very popular over here :bbb

Beebs
12-01-2007, 03:31 PM
Middle class my ass...do you know what middle class is?
I remember when I was a kid, I thougt we were middle class...until I saw what middle class was. My pride wouldnt let me see we were just abover poverty. Now, my mother would have said we were doin good, but not me. See, you lames dont understand, his uncle is a old head. They don't know what goes on with the younger dudes...now, not sayin Floyd was out grindin or what not, but I'm sure he has been in shit his uncle don't know about. Stop lettin your hate make you sound stupid.

How the fuck is saying somebody is middle class "hating" ? How fucking sad of a culture do you live in that saying somebody is NOT ghetto is an insult, what are you 15? If I'm insulting Floyd by saying he lived in a middle class area of Grand Rapids I'm insulting my own fucking family.

He lived very near my parents first home in Grand Rapids, its middle class.

Shit, I live in Indy like you, I would consider my apt on 38th street about equal or even more ghetto than where Floyd is from.

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 03:32 PM
That's your conscience talkin...I never called you a hater or a racist...are you? Anyway, I'm a grown ass man. You can look through every post I have posted. I don't run around talkin about who I hate or who I like...that woman shit. I don't care about who likes who...thats gay. You sir need to pull up your thong.
:lol:
If you would read a few comments back in the thread, you would know what I'm talking about. :good

Relentless
12-01-2007, 03:43 PM
what i dont understand is why is kodon so butt hurt about people hating floyd?

MrMagic
12-01-2007, 03:47 PM
Nah, the hate is in between the lines. My thing is how people go far out to discredit Floyd, period. In been through fire, and I damn sure don't glorify it. But you get the point. What up though...I'm off 38th too.:hi:
Again, I'm not hating or discrediting Floyd in any way, I am merely questioning his personality and his charisma. I bet there's a ton of people crossing their fingers come fight night, hoping that Floyd gets his head smashed in, I doubt that will ever happend. But I am not the one digging deep and doing some research about Floyd, because he just leaves it all out there himself, he keeps talking about his background, and he keeps waving them money in the camera. And next thing you know, he's in an interview saying money isn't everything, the only thing I want is some feedback on this from Floyd supporters, looks like there's two of them giving a shit, and they aren't even reading what I have to say, but instead calls me a racist, a hater and whatnot.
Again, taken from Floyds own words.. he says he gives credit to those who deserved it, in my point of view, Jeff, Floyd SR and many others deserve that credit, looks like he had a good, average upbringing.

keepemup
12-01-2007, 03:53 PM
The fact of the matter is that Grand Rapids has not always been a great place. It was largely a run down suburb until the Devoss' family poured money into the place.

I'm not saying whether FLoyd grew up poor or middle class, but according to what he's said and other things concerning his family business, it wouldn't be hard to believe. Especially since Floyd's mother was on drugs, he father went to jail and was shot, and his mother and father don't get along. I don't think that things were all that great. Despite a lot of you guys eager to say the opposite of whatever he says, it is more than likely true.

Relentless
12-01-2007, 03:55 PM
floyd lived with his grandmother.

keepemup
12-01-2007, 04:00 PM
floyd lived with his grandmother.
All his life?

Illstate
12-01-2007, 04:01 PM
Well if Mayweather has done one good thing for society it's the fact that at least one black man in the world is not considered a thug.
He even has people defending crack addiction on ESB. "They're not as bad as people make them out to be"
Deep down crack users are great, wonderful, warm, nurturing people.

Relentless
12-01-2007, 04:06 PM
Well if Mayweather has done one good thing for society it's the fact that at least one black man in the world is not considered a thug.
He even has people defending crack addiction on ESB. "They're not as bad as people make them out to be"
Deep down crack users are great, wonderful, warm, nurturing people.

stop acting like an idiot,

drug addicts aren't all crazy fuckers who suck dick for dope.

Relentless
12-01-2007, 04:07 PM
nah not really! i just wanted to use the phrase 'butt hurt' :good

maracho
12-01-2007, 05:24 PM
Floyd is not from the ghetto, his family had at least middle class money, my parents lived near where the mayweathers are from when they were first married.

But did any of you really follow him around to see who he was hanging around?:nut

Beebs
12-01-2007, 06:16 PM
But did any of you really follow him around to see who he was hanging around?:nut

No, he might very well have pretended to be something he wasnt, but he grew up in an average, middleclass area of an average, middleclass city.

He might have had a terribly rough childhood for all I know, lots of middle class people do. All I am saying is that he didn't grow up in a "bad part of town"

beerman
12-01-2007, 08:27 PM
Grand Rapids is no Detroit. Nuff said


I live in Grand Rapids and have for 40 years, while it's not Detroit it has some areas I dont care to drive thru. I know where Floyd grew up and the school he went to, it is'nt the worst part of town but far from the best.

Triplesod
12-02-2007, 10:09 AM
That's your conscience talkin...I never called you a hater or a racist...are you? Anyway, I'm a grown ass man. You can look through every post I have posted. I don't run around talkin about who I hate or who I like...that woman shit. I don't care about who likes who...thats gay. You sir need to pull up your thong.

"a grown ass man", eh?

You seem to be about 12 to me.

Imperial1
12-02-2007, 10:14 AM
Oh this comes a no surprise ..Money does change you ..This is why he acts like an insecure little brat !

I could act like a thug if I had 6 bodyguards around me !!


I guess this is why people want him to lose ..Just so he can get humbled ..I think Ricky said it best in 24/7 everybody knows your the best now change the dam record !!

Haye
12-02-2007, 10:37 AM
How rich. This coming from a guy with an avatar pic of a boxer who's been busted twice for steroids, is a scumbag and admitted to selling crack to kids and their mothers. You have no room to talk.

Yep, but that is what James Toney really was (even though he actually comes from a pretty well off middle class family) Floyd is a pretender, whereas Toney doesn't lie about his background for street cred.

badger6
12-02-2007, 11:19 AM
Oh this comes a no surprise ..Money does change you ..This is why he acts like an insecure little brat !

I could act like a thug if I had 6 bodyguards around me !!


I guess this is why people want him to lose ..Just so he can get humbled ..I think Ricky said it best in 24/7 everybody knows your the best now change the dam record !!

Why would such a tough guy need 6 body guards ??? :lol:

Imperial1
12-02-2007, 12:02 PM
Why would such a tough guy need 6 body guards ??? :lol:

Look who's he close friends with ...Mr Security himself 50 cent another thug who rolls around w/10 or so bodyguards !!


Thats real talk :rofl

Mrboogie23
12-02-2007, 12:19 PM
50 cent's Net worth is estimated at 500 Million dollars.


what does that have to do with anything. 50 cent is a shitty ass pop rapper.

Imperial1
12-02-2007, 01:13 PM
what does that have to do with anything. 50 cent is a shitty ass pop rapper.

He must also be impressed with money maywether as well !!
:rofl (cough)loser!

Relentless
12-02-2007, 01:22 PM
what does that have to do with anything. 50 cent is a shitty ass pop rapper.

i think we were supposed to be impressed?

badger6
12-02-2007, 02:51 PM
50 cent's Net worth is estimated at 500 Million dollars.
Yea it's amazing how low class, low talent bums get lucky sometimes. Actually, it just shows how gullable and stupid the buying public really is !!!


Look who's he close friends with ...Mr Security himself 50 cent another thug who rolls around w/10 or so bodyguards !!


Thats real talk :rofl
Well then between them why would they both need 16 body guards ??? I guess cause they both talk shit and can't back it up out in public. Hate to see a couple 18 year olds kick their ass in public. No, actually it would be funny as hell would probably really happen. What a couple fucking poser cunts !!!

maracho
12-02-2007, 07:00 PM
No, he might very well have pretended to be something he wasnt, but he grew up in an average, middleclass area of an average, middleclass city.

He might have had a terribly rough childhood for all I know, lots of middle class people do. All I am saying is that he didn't grow up in a "bad part of town"

Exactly, we dont know for sure but thats why we should focus our criticisms on his always choosing semicans over many years.

My respect for Floyd has gone up considerable for taking the Hatton fight who I feel is about as tough as they come especially after last night when I watched him fighting as a little kid.:yep