Michael Moorer at LHW

[Raggamuffin]

At this weight he was a pure menace.
Didn't he knock out everybody (17 fights think)
Powerfull, hungry and unbelieveble menacing

What's youre take on this ?

[brownpimp88]

After Michael Spinks left 175 and before the roy jones jr. era, boxing lacked a domiant light heavyweight champ. I am confident that if Michael Moorer decided to stay at light heavyweight from 1991-1995, he would have been the dominant champ for sure.

[TBooze]

A little overrated IMO. Avoided Hill and Williams like the plague, and if you saw the Allen and Stonewalker fights, you saw his limitations at the weight.

[Raggamuffin]

After Michael Spinks left 175 and before the roy jones jr. era, boxing lacked a domiant light heavyweight champ. I am confident that if Michael Moorer decided to stay at light heavyweight from 1991-1995, he would have been the dominant champ for sure.

He lacked the desire to stay at LHW and decided to take the easy but big money road to HW. I don't think RJJ was that good off a LHW
A alltime SMW he was !!

[brownpimp88]

He lacked the desire to stay at LHW and decided to take the easy but big money road to HW. I don't think RJJ was that good off a LHW
A alltime SMW he was !!
Well we can easily downplay all the big fights roy jones jr avoided and how his resume could have been better. However, i feel he did enough to be considered a top 10 atg at 175 and i will stick with that line of thinking. He was the ring magazine light heavyweight champ for about 7 years and his comp was just as good as foster's if you look at it objectively.

I feel michael moorer would have defeated virgil hill and charles williams at light heavyweight, but then again those fights wouldnt bring home the big bucks he wants.

[Raggamuffin]

A little overrated IMO. Avoided Hill and Williams like the plague, and if you saw the Allen and Stonewalker fights, you saw his limitations at the weight.

Still he destroyed those fighters. Imo he would have beat both Hill and the Prince

[DamonD]

Definitely a powerful LHW, though even with that 17-0 17 KO record he did have a few problems. I remember Frankie Swindell rattling his brain good and proper.

[Raggamuffin]

Definitely a powerful LHW, though even with that 17-0 17 KO record he did have a few problems. I remember Frankie Swindell rattling his brain good and proper.

The very rotound Swindeel gave evrybody a hard time.
But off course he had some flaws and still got the job done

[Mantequilla]

Want to see how good Moorer was against a sound boxer?.

Watch his fight with ordinary Leslie Stewart.

Moorer was nothing special even at 175 and would have been found out as a one-dimensional, fragile fighter had he been fighting in a deeper weightclass.

[Raggamuffin]

Not in my book buttercup
Can't blaim a guy for not having too much recognisable opponents

[markedwardscott]

He was a killer at that weight.

[Russell]

He was a killer at that weight.

Why, in your opinion?

[bxrfan]

Why, in your opinion?
He knocked out everybody he fought at this weight, I say that justifies him being called a killer.

[MattyC808]

Why, in your opinion?

17 fights 17 KOs, also he was very technical. For a southpaw to have a right uppercut and righthook like had is very unusual.

[TBooze]

Still he destroyed those fighters. Imo he would have beat both Hill and the Prince

He did not destroy then journeymen Stewart, Allen and Stonewalker, he struggled with all three.... I think Jeff Harding would of had a 50/50 shot at Moorer, let alone Hill or Williams!

Moorer was also a bit lazy training wise, and getting down to 175 was a constant battle, in part because of that laziness.

[mr. magoo]

Coincidentally, he used to kill himself just to make that weight.

Michael Moorer had no business fighting at 175.

Yeah Lightheavyweight was a bit a of stretch for a man of Moorer's build. Heavyweight was stretching it too. It would have been interesting to see Moorer spend about two years at Cruiserweight fighting the best fighters that the division had to offer at the time. I think it would have been a comfortable weight for him, and he likely would have unfied the titles.

[Russell]

He did not destroy then journeymen Stewart, Allen and Stonewalker, he struggled with all three.... I think Jeff Harding would of had a 50/50 shot at Moorer, let alone Hill or Williams!

Moorer was also a bit lazy training wise, and getting down to 175 was a constant battle, in part because of that laziness.

Moorer can walk around at 250 pounds and more and look quite muscular.

It's no suprise it was nearly impossible to stay at Light Heavy.

[TBooze]

Moorer can walk around at 250 pounds and more and look quite muscular.

It's no suprise it was nearly impossible to stay at Light Heavy.

He was a big 175lber, but as Steward has stated, his training habits ruined his great potential.

As has been pointed out in this thread Moorer probably would of peaked at 190; and with the likes of Holyfield as champion, he could of easily fought him at 200 rather than 215.

[Bigcat]

He was a killer at that weight.

We need not say any more.. Killer he was.. if he would have stayed at Lt heavy he would have completely dominated as did Holyfield at Cruiserweight.. Fearless and ferocious...

[mr. magoo]

We need not say any more.. Killer he was.. if he would have stayed at Lt heavy he would have completely dominated as did Holyfield at Cruiserweight.. Fearless and ferocious...

I think if Moorer had fought Virgil Hill anytime between 1990-1993, Hill would have outboxed him to a decision. Jeff Harding with his heart, chin and power may have been a potential threat too, although I wouldn't give him the kind of chance that i'd give Hill. Moorer still had a lot of things to work on. He had some difficulty getting good boxers with decent chins out of there. Sure he looked invincible against someone like Jeff Thompson or Mario Melo, but when he fought someone who was capable if fighting, he would have to take a bit longer to get them out, and at times even had to come back from being behind on points.

[fists of fury]

Moorer was a big, big light-heayweight. I've got a picture of him and Tyson standing next to each other while Moorer was still a light-heavy, and he didn't look much smaller than Tyson at all. (Between fights, of course.)

However, I think his record at the weight flattered to deceive somewhat. His fight against Danny Stonewalker was average at best, and for 7 rounds Leslie Stewart had his number.
I remember Manny Steward going bonkers in Moorer's corner - "You're a young, strong man! Let your hands go!" Moorer was just sleepwalking, and was getting beaten to the punch time and again.
Fair play to Moorer, in the 8th he wakes up and knocks Sterwart down 3 times to win the fight, but he hardly looked devastating in that one.

On a sidenote, I never really bought into his tough guy image. He tried a little too hard to be like Tyson and it didn't come off naturally.

[mr. magoo]

Moorer was a big, big light-heayweight. I've got a picture of him and Tyson standing next to each other while Moorer was still a light-heavy, and he didn't look much smaller than Tyson at all. (Between fights, of course.)

However, I think his record at the weight flattered to deceive somewhat. His fight against Danny Stonewalker was average at best, and for 7 rounds Leslie Stewart had his number.
I remember Manny Steward going bonkers in Moorer's corner - "You're a young, strong man! Let your hands go!" Moorer was just sleepwalking, and was getting beaten to the punch time and again.
Fair play to Moorer, in the 8th he wakes up and knocks Sterwart down 3 times to win the fight, but he hardly looked devastating in that one.

On a sidenote, I never really bought into his tough guy image. He tried a little too hard to be like Tyson and it didn't come off naturally.

At one point he was living in Steward's basement, and had a huge collection of guns down there. He was a bit of an odd duck really.

[fists of fury]

At one point he was living in Steward's basement, and had a huge collection of guns down there. He was a bit of an odd duck really.

Did he? Interesting. I wonder what Manny thought about that...:lol:

It's just some of the stuff he said...like his love of horror movies and violence and gore and all that...maybe I'm wrong and he really was just a violent person, but some of the things he said had me thinking he had read it somewhere, and was trying to impress.