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PowerPuncher
07-02-2007, 05:58 AM
Delahoya, Trinidad - and thats it

Mayweather sold at least 350k with his PPVs before Delahoya. Delahoya sold 2.1 PPV with Mayweather and could only sell 700k with Mayorga. Mayweather will sell more PPVs since building a bigger name and been watched by 2.1m PPV buyers.

So who of the big names sell near as many PPVs as Mayweather?

Mosley - no (what did the Vargas PPV make?)
Hatton - no (80k against Maussa)
Cotto - no (220k against Judah)
Pacman - no (even with Morales he was only just going over 300k in PPV sales)

Yet people say Mayweathers not a draw???? Other than Delahoya/Trinidad no other boxer sells as many PPVs as Mayweather does

dangerousity
07-02-2007, 06:01 AM
Delahoya, Trinidad - and thats it

Mayweather sold at least 350k with his PPVs before Delahoya. Delahoya sold 2.1 PPV with Mayweather and could only sell 700k with Mayorga. Mayweather will sell more PPVs since building a bigger name and been watched by 2.1m PPV buyers.

So who of the big names sell near as many PPVs as Mayweather?

Mosley - no (what did the Vargas PPV make?)
Hatton - no (80k against Maussa)
Cotto - no (220k against Judah)
Pacman - no (even with Morales he was only just going over 300k in PPV sales)

Yet people say Mayweathers not a draw???? Other than Delahoya/Trinidad no other boxer sells as many PPVs as Mayweather does

Mayorga-ODLH did 900k. PBF-DLH did 2.1mil with 10* the amount of promotions for that.

Outside DLH PBF did 360k with Gatti and 350k with Judah. Pacman did 350k with Morales 2nd time and 355k 3rd time. He also did 200k against practically unknown Solis with no promotions for fight.

PowerPuncher
07-02-2007, 06:04 AM
Mayorga-ODLH did 900k. PBF-DLH did 2.1mil with 10* the amount of promotions for that.

Outside DLH PBF did 360k with Gatti and 350k with Judah. Pacman did 350k with Morales 2nd time and 355k 3rd time. He also did 200k against practically unknown Solis with no promotions for fight.

I think Mayweather deserves credit for the sales Mayweather-Delahoya. Obviously Delahoya was the draw but Mayweather was the cherry on the cake for sure

Mayweather managed 380k against Baldomir though didn't he?

Remember Morales and the super fight it was brings more buys than Judah/Baldomir

Pacs certainly become a big draw no doubt

Know how much Mosley-Vargas did?

dangerousity
07-02-2007, 06:08 AM
I think Mayweather deserves credit for the sales Mayweather-Delahoya. Obviously Delahoya was the draw but Mayweather was the cherry on the cake for sure

Mayweather managed 380k against Baldomir though didn't he?

Remember Morales and the super fight it was brings more buys than Judah/Baldomir

Pacs certainly become a big draw no doubt

Know how much Mosley-Vargas did?

Mayweather-Baldo did 325k and that was for the undisputed WW belt.

Of course PBF deserves credit for upping the numbers to 2.1, but fact is, those numbers are indicative of what numbers PBF could provide fighting ODLH not other fighters. That fight got CRAZY promotion, shows, magazines, posters, adverts, 24hour reality TV...heck you put that much promotion into any fight and its bound to do atleast 1mil buys.

I believe Gatti, Judah, Morales to be in the same league of PPV sales so thats where I rate them at. So far they did simmilar numbers. Also bear in mind Pacman is not even American and cant speak english. If they start promoting him in the US like they do PBF, hes gonna be huge. Difference being that PBF is promoted to the casual fans and casual fans almost feel cheated of his money and wont wanna watch him again after seing him, whereas the average casual fan would be hooked to Pac once they see his fights.

Mosley Vargas 1 did about 400k I think, 2nd fight did 350k.

DonPrestige
07-02-2007, 06:15 AM
People dont like it but outside of Oscar and I guess Tito now, PBF is the biggest draw. Why? Along with his fans there are a huge amount of people who want to see him lose. Put him against any opponent with a credible chance of beating him (not baldomir) and he'll do the numbers.

dangerousity
07-02-2007, 06:39 AM
People dont like it but outside of Oscar and I guess Tito now, PBF is the biggest draw. Why? Along with his fans there are a huge amount of people who want to see him lose. Put him against any opponent with a credible chance of beating him (not baldomir) and he'll do the numbers.

True, I think Hatton-PBF & Cotto-PBF would do huge numbers. Doubt it'll be over a mil although it does come down to how much promotion they put in it. Still, I think in terms of legion of loyal fans PBF comes behind quite a few...guys like Hatton & Pac IMO could draw more fighting absolute nobodies just because their fans wanna see them fight. Whereas PBF will sell PPV's mainly because people are intrigued to see if he will loose and thats only if its a credible opponent. Margarito, Hatton, Cotto, Mosley.

Richel Hersisia
07-02-2007, 06:46 AM
Mosley Vargas numbers were very good, if i'm correct. about 450 k.

i think that the klits can do very good numbers. specially when they fight Peter or they are in a unification fight.

or what about Klit Holyfield, that would do very good numbers.

Also Pac Barrera can do 400 k easily.

madpup
07-02-2007, 10:10 AM
All good points. And Gayweather was the B-side for the Gatti/Judah bouts. Nobody wants to see Floyd fight...

I guess 350K bought the PBF - Baldomir card to watch Baldomir light it up.

Thread Stealer
07-02-2007, 11:17 AM
Mayweather puts up solid PPV numbers. There's Oscar, then there's Tito (when he's active), then there's everyone else.

The other notable PPVs of the last couple years, outside of the Odd Couple, fights like Mosley-Vargas, Hopkins-Taylor, Hopkins-Tarver, etc.....did around 300-400k, which is around where Floyd generally does.

ibragimovfan
07-02-2007, 11:57 AM
bernard hopkins.....

igotJUIC3
07-02-2007, 12:01 PM
Believe what you will, but many people tuned in to see if Baldomir could keep his magic streak going and shut up that little bastard. HBO hyped the hell out of that farce of a fight and had built Mayweather up with the Gatti and Judah bouts. 80% of that 350K was due to HBO's marketing, not Floyd.

90% of the 2.1M that tuned in a few months back were due to ODLH and HBO's mad promotion.

Mayweather-Mosley (or most other champs) might do 500K buys...

Mayweather-Hatton would do near a million...

See the difference? Mayweather needs a popular dance partner - he cannot "carry" a card by himself.

Good points but i truly think with Golden Boy Promotions the Mosley fight will be very big numbers man...i mean they promote very well plus its a great fight and ontop of that you know PBF is gonna play the bad guy role to a T!!

madpup
07-02-2007, 12:29 PM
Believe what you will, but many people tuned in to see if Baldomir could keep his magic streak going and shut up that little bastard.

You are delusional, if you really believe that.

Don't let your hatred for PBF cloud rational judgement.

acb
07-02-2007, 12:34 PM
If you want to say PBF is the 2nd biggest draw in boxing, fine. But one thing you can not dispute is that there is a HUGE dropoff between the 1st and 2nd biggest draw in boxing. DLH can fight nearly anyone and do 900,000 buys. Floyd willl be more in the range of 300,000.

charlievint
07-02-2007, 04:25 PM
Delahoya, Trinidad - and thats it

Mayweather sold at least 350k with his PPVs before Delahoya. Delahoya sold 2.1 PPV with Mayweather and could only sell 700k with Mayorga. Mayweather will sell more PPVs since building a bigger name and been watched by 2.1m PPV buyers.

So who of the big names sell near as many PPVs as Mayweather?

Mosley - no (what did the Vargas PPV make?)
Hatton - no (80k against Maussa)
Cotto - no (220k against Judah)
Pacman - no (even with Morales he was only just going over 300k in PPV sales)

Yet people say Mayweathers not a draw???? Other than Delahoya/Trinidad no other boxer sells as many PPVs as Mayweather does

Mosley for sure! Floyd isn't really a draw. He may be a slight draw now, but that fight could have done him ALOT better had he faught toe to toe, but that would have risked a KO loss. Either way he is only a slightly better draw than he was prior to his bout with DLH. He had the chance to become a household name but he decided to fight "safety first" to walk away with a close win. Mosley and Tito have bigger names than floyd and would do bigger numbers than Floyd.

charlievint
07-02-2007, 04:27 PM
I think Mayweather deserves credit for the sales Mayweather-Delahoya. Obviously Delahoya was the draw but Mayweather was the cherry on the cake for sure

Mayweather managed 380k against Baldomir though didn't he?

Remember Morales and the super fight it was brings more buys than Judah/Baldomir

Pacs certainly become a big draw no doubt

Know how much Mosley-Vargas did?

Floyd did some decent numbers for sure and I didn't know he did that well. He's still behind Tito and SSM!:hey

cableguy
07-02-2007, 07:46 PM
Usually whoever he's fighting against!

Thread Stealer
07-03-2007, 12:35 AM
Usually whoever he's fighting against!

Other than the PPV king Oscar, none of the guys Floyd has fought on PPV (and done solid #s against) have really done any good on PPV. Judah-Cotto did relatively low PPV numbers, and Judah otherwise was only the undercard on PPV events. Same with Gatti, and I don't know of any PPVs that Baldomir has otherwise been on.

Thread Stealer
07-03-2007, 12:37 AM
Good points but i truly think with Golden Boy Promotions the Mosley fight will be very big numbers man...i mean they promote very well plus its a great fight and ontop of that you know PBF is gonna play the bad guy role to a T!!

Floyd has no choice BUT to play the bad guy. Nobody likes him ANYWAY!

Floyd did a good job playing the bad guy role but I credit HBO (and GBP) a lot for the incredible PPV sales of Mayweather-DLH. 24/7, being shown right between Entourage and The Sopranos, was obviously key in selling so much. Mayweather did his part, and GBP and HBO sure did its part in promoting the fight (and spending a lot to promote it).

Stinky gloves
07-03-2007, 01:57 AM
Everybody who fight DLH will make more money than Floyd without DLH.

fatcity
07-03-2007, 08:42 AM
Dysfunctional family shows always do fairly well.:-(

DonPrestige
07-03-2007, 08:46 AM
So stinky would Cotto-DLH make more money, be serious man. The whole good guy bad guy thing sold tickets, people lapped it up and that was why it sold tickets.

I guess a Floyd would make less than Cotto would in that fight if he fights Mosley or Hatton. You seem to forget DLH makes the money and know way would he give Cotto Floyd money.

Thread Stealer
07-03-2007, 11:26 AM
Everybody who fight DLH will make more money than Floyd without DLH.

Floyd made plenty of money in his fights leading up to the DLH fight.

Don't underestimate that HBO money.

Biggame
07-03-2007, 12:54 PM
Everybody who fight DLH will make more money than Floyd without DLH.

That's comedy!!!