View Full Version : Timur Ibragimov vs Timo Hoffman on the 23rd of June in Germany
rrezike
06-18-2007, 07:40 AM
It is just confirmed they will fight togather in Germany in a 10 round bout. I think it is a very good match.
It is just confirmed they will fight togather in Germany in a 10 round bout. I think it is a very good match.
Interesting match.
I put my money on Timo by close point decision.Timo looked quite convincing in his last few fights.
I somehow hope that Timo will soon be matched against his rising stable mate Povetkin.
Armo_Ruski
06-18-2007, 10:54 AM
timur is imo the most disappointing eastern euro guy i've seen in awhile, great size but looks scared to throw, timo should win this one
rrezike
06-18-2007, 11:07 AM
timur is imo the most disappointing eastern euro guy i've seen in awhile, great size but looks scared to throw, timo should win this one
so it will not be a good match for you?
Armo_Ruski
06-18-2007, 11:55 AM
i dont think it will be a good fight not at all, hope im wrong
rrezike
06-18-2007, 12:17 PM
i dont think it will be a good fight not at all, hope im wrong
So you think the sauerland card is really for this time?
Toney
06-18-2007, 12:33 PM
Timo will just outwork Timor in a boring fight. Timor is Sauerlands sparring partner, so they know him 100%. Saurland dont make often mistakes. Hoffman wins.
Shpion
06-18-2007, 01:38 PM
I hope Timo Ko's that embaressement to boxing- Timur into oblivion.
PREVED
06-18-2007, 01:50 PM
timur is imo the most disappointing eastern euro guy i've seen in awhile, great size but looks scared to throw, timo should win this one
Uzbekistan it's Eastern Europe?:nono
Shpion
06-18-2007, 02:51 PM
Uzbekistan it's Eastern Europe?:nono
He probably meant former USSR.
Artani
06-18-2007, 06:22 PM
Great fight , its interesting for both this fight . Timur is morer than two months in the Saurland camp , if he wins he will sign for Saurland. This is good chance for Timor comeback , also Hoffman looking away for any title.
It will be good to see winner of this match with Virchis.
Armo_Ruski
06-18-2007, 07:32 PM
i meant former soviet union thing. the way it should be :happy :happy
Uzbekistan it's Eastern Europe?:nono
Russia isnt part of eastern europe either.And neither is Belarus.A lot of people think that the russian speaking nations are not part of europe,culturally,mentally,economically,and so on.
Besides any Russian,Belarussian,or Ukranian who travels to -lets say Italia,or Germany will answer when asked where he is heading that he is on his way to europe.Portugese people have more in common with Danish people than Russian people with Dutch,Italian,or other european people.
Of course geographically a country like Belarus is part of europe,but there is a huge canyon between european people and russian speaking people.
rrezike
06-19-2007, 09:24 AM
Russia isnt part of eastern europe either.And neither is Belarus.A lot of people think that the russian speaking nations are not part of europe,culturally,mentally,economically,and so on.
Besides any Russian,Belarussian,or Ukranian who travels to -lets say Italia,or Germany will answer when asked where he is heading that he is on his way to europe.Portugese people have more in common with Danish people than Russian people with Dutch,Italian,or other european people.
Of course geographically a country like Belarus is part of europe,but there is a huge canyon between european people and russian speaking people.
This is a good explanation of gender differences and also people and nations differences.
When you say Russian speaking countries what you mean?
The Russian language as it is belarussian, ukranian, yugoslavian, bulgarian slovenian, macedonian, and thus many other eastern europe countries are derivatives of Slavik language not Russian Language.
All what i mentined eastern europe countries with some ex ussr countries like russia, ukraine , latvia, estonia ans some other that i dont remember have derivatives of slavik language and culture
Anyway we are here to talk about boxing isnt it?
Still it remains a good explantion.:good
joeboxer
06-19-2007, 10:08 AM
good fight for both these guys. they both have a lot to prove and have come up short in big fights.
This will be another borefest involving Timur Ibragimov. How they put this guy on national TV twice in a row already is beyond me.
albaneze
06-20-2007, 10:35 AM
How do you Guys Explain so much disrespect and hate coming from the Russians themselves against Ibragimov, thinking that he is from an ex ussr . personally i am a bit surprised by their comments.
Anyways i saw him box, in his professional career not so good but they say he had a good record on his amatory fights.
Cheers.
How do you Guys Explain so much disrespect and hate coming from the Russians themselves against Ibragimov, thinking that he is from an ex ussr . personally i am a bit surprised by their comments.
Anyways i saw him box, in his professional career not so good but they say he had a good record on his amatory fights.
Cheers.
His lack of heart, determination, and desire to win is an embarassment to true ex-Soviet era fighters/athletes. He makes John Ruiz matches look interesting. Ibragimov-Brock was one of the most boring matches I've ever seen on HBO.
Armo_Ruski
06-20-2007, 07:20 PM
exactly what huki said...
This will be another borefest involving Timur Ibragimov. How they put this guy on national TV twice in a row already is beyond me.
"This will be another borefest.."
I fear so ,too.
Both Timur and Timo are not the type of figher who isfun to watch.
KillerInstinct
06-22-2007, 12:24 PM
Hoffman wins via boring decision. T. Ibragimov is one of the most boring fighters I have EVER seen. In his fight with Brock, all he did was clinch, throw maybe 10 punches each round with no authority behind them..AND HE STILL GOT ROCKED 3 TIMES!! From what I have seen, he is chinny, lacks the heart/desire, lacks power, and he really should just call it quits with his career.
Bostonmma
06-23-2007, 05:46 PM
Did Hoffman get a decision, or did Timur actually learn how to fight?
Anyone have full results?
sinan58
06-23-2007, 06:25 PM
Possible watch this fight at Online Tv ?
sinan58
06-23-2007, 06:45 PM
That is good news.
sinan58
06-23-2007, 06:48 PM
Which raund ?
sinan58
06-23-2007, 06:57 PM
one man gang so thks write always pls how is the fight...
sinan58
06-23-2007, 07:06 PM
thks one man gang.
Bummy Davis
06-23-2007, 07:08 PM
Im suprised, Timur disapointed me in his 2 fights prior to this, he just did not do enough and posed then would throw the 1-2, Hoffman just a durable guy but a nothing
the ref from england was shit.
better referee and hoffman would have been ko`d IMO.
anytime there was a few seconds were hoffman did not grab timor timed him lovely.
Alcaldemb
06-25-2007, 03:06 PM
Hoffman is shot if he is losing to T Ibragimov. This man, who looks to be carrying enought excess weight to drop down to cruiser, also seems to lack much in the way of serious technical or physical ability. I'd almost be willing to say that Timur could do better at cruiser, but I don't think he would. Either way Hoffman is done and now Timur will get another decently high profile fight.
the ref from england was shit.
better referee and hoffman would have been ko`d IMO.
anytime there was a few seconds were hoffman did not grab timor timed him lovely.
Didnt hoffman vs timur remind you a bit of Sprott vs hoffman I ???
Hoffman is shot if he is losing to T Ibragimov. This man, who looks to be carrying enought excess weight to drop down to cruiser, also seems to lack much in the way of serious technical or physical ability. I'd almost be willing to say that Timur could do better at cruiser, but I don't think he would. Either way Hoffman is done and now Timur will get another decently high profile fight.
Styles make fights.Fast movers a la Sprott or Timur are Timo's worst nightmare.He would probably look much better against fighters like Sam Peter or Maskaev.Well,of course he would lose those fights,too.However,he looked horrible against a relatively harmless opponent like Timur,but showed decent performances against Vitaly Klitschko or Akinwande.
I would love to watch Timo vs his stable mate Povetkin.
Didnt hoffman vs timur remind you a bit of Sprott vs hoffman I ???
except timor got the nod.
not sure where the judges got hoffmans rounds from in this fight.
timor was far superior and while he got frustrated early on with hoffmans tatics,he gave himself distance , just leaned back the few times hoffamn attacked and then booming right hand counter caught hoffman again and again, hoffman took them well , but the ref let hoffman get away with nearly 7 rounds of hugging and walking timor around, which allowed timor only single shots before hogffman hugged him again and another ref intervention.
except timor got the nod.
not sure where the judges got hoffmans rounds from in this fight.
timor was far superior and while he got frustrated early on with hoffmans tatics,he gave himself distance , just leaned back the few times hoffamn attacked and then booming right hand counter caught hoffman again and again, hoffman took them well , but the ref let hoffman get away with nearly 7 rounds of hugging and walking timor around, which allowed timor only single shots before hogffman hugged him again and another ref intervention.
What would have Boytsov done to Hoffman yesterday night? A fast mover who can bang.Even with the help of that fat ref he wouldnt have survived 10 rounds against such a hungry talent.
Boytsov's style would be a nightmare for Timo.
Timo's matchmaker should not have matched him with Timur.Styles make fights.They should have better matched him again against Akinwande IMO.
Alcaldemb
06-25-2007, 05:58 PM
Styles make fights.Fast movers a la Sprott or Timur are Timo's worst nightmare.He would probably look much better against fighters like Sam Peter or Maskaev.Well,of course he would lose those fights,too.However,he looked horrible against a relatively harmless opponent like Timur,but showed decent performances against Vitaly Klitschko or Akinwande.
I would love to watch Timo vs his stable mate Povetkin.
Povetkin actually can move though, better than Timur, and would most likely stop this version of Hoffman. Hoffman might have had a career changing fight against Vitali, while Vitali is not a tremendous one punch fighter but he has exceptionally heavy hands that do a lot of damange.
Bigcat
06-26-2007, 10:59 AM
Timur is by nature a very lazy heavyweight , If Hoffman showed any signs of fatigue Timur would be comfortable to hold also. On a bad day Hoffman can look awful, Timur has never had a great day so far, maybe this was it..
Timur is by nature a very lazy heavyweight , If Hoffman showed any signs of fatigue Timur would be comfortable to hold also. On a bad day Hoffman can look awful, Timur has never had a great day so far, maybe this was it..
Haha! Timur looked like a top fighter against Timo.But to be fair Timo let him look like a top fighter.Styles make fights.Timur just has the wrong style for the slow and one-dimensional German.Sprott,who has a similar style to Timur,had already proved how easy it was to outbox that predictable German giant.
boxexpert
06-30-2007, 03:53 PM
hoffmann is just a worthless bum. he should go back and work in a bakery as he did before and let younger and better boxers come forward
hoffmann is just a worthless bum. he should go back and work in a bakery as he did before and let younger and better boxers come forward
not fair.
hoffman has always sucked it up and he also trains hard as when he first came onto the scene he was a doughboy and he has obviously trained hard/dieted and been in shape since then.
also he does not quit .
he also improved a lot of his basic fundamentals and when outclassed , turns into survival mode and uses his great size to spoil and make a poor spectacle.
he has made the absolute most of what talent he has .
not fair.
hoffman has always sucked it up and he also trains hard as when he first came onto the scene he was a doughboy and he has obviously trained hard/dieted and been in shape since then.
also he does not quit .
he also improved a lot of his basic fundamentals and when outclassed , turns into survival mode and uses his great size to spoil and make a poor spectacle.
he has made the absolute most of what talent he has .
People are quite quick with jumping to one side of a fence calling the opposite side a bum or joke.
Timo is a limited big heavy weight who can hold his own against a lot of his fellow big boys.Styles make fights.Timur just had the wrong style for the huge and clumsy German.Hoffman would have looked much better against much better opponents than Timur-lets say Maskaev for example.No,it doesnt really mean that he would be able to beat Maskaev,but IMO he would look much better against these kind of opponents.Fast,capable,and mobile opponents are his worst nightmare.
Timo,too,had a very tough time with Sprott who gave him hell in their two encounters.
boxexpert
07-01-2007, 08:33 AM
maybe not fair,but true.
hoffmann had his years and fights such ones like vs.klitschko which i take my hat off because he was standing 12 rounds. but now,being on a certain ranking-level,it shows who had a solid amateur-background and who has that bit talent more than the others.
fact is,hoffmann doesnt. he will be (almost) always a good test for an upcoming prospect,but not more.
he will probably end up similar as willi fischer (and many other overrated heavies).
sorry,but thats how the business goes...
maybe not fair,but true.
hoffmann had his years and fights such ones like vs.klitschko which i take my hat off because he was standing 12 rounds. but now,being on a certain ranking-level,it shows who had a solid amateur-background and who has that bit talent more than the others.
fact is,hoffmann doesnt. he will be (almost) always a good test for an upcoming prospect,but not more.
he will probably end up similar as willi fischer (and many other overrated heavies).
sorry,but thats how the business goes...
I dont think that anybody has ever overrated Timo Hoffman,boxexpert!
Sprott and Timur looked great against the slow and clumsy German.However,he went the full route with Vitaly Klitschko,and has beaten some decent journeyman(Zuri Lawrence,Cengic Coc,etc) in his long pro career.
Styles make fights,mate!
Timo is a decent boxer,nothing special,and certainly no match for any top gun,but he is no pushover.He keeps trying to win big fights.He failed to win his big fights though.
boxexpert
07-01-2007, 05:25 PM
Odo
look: the germans are desperately looking for a heavyweight-champion,the first since max schmeling. the only "real" german is definitely hoffmann and his name sounds very german. all others are either russians,turkish,albanians or any other nationality.
this way, the germans do definitely overrate him. its nothing wrong with that,but this doesnt make a boxer better than he really is or even a champion
Odo
look: the germans are desperately looking for a heavyweight-champion,the first since max schmeling. the only "real" german is definitely hoffmann and his name sounds very german. all others are either russians,turkish,albanians or any other nationality.
this way, the germans do definitely overrate him. its nothing wrong with that,but this doesnt make a boxer better than he really is or even a champion
I dont know,boxexpert.Of course you are German,and certainly entitled to your opinion,but I have seen lots of German people who enthusiacically support fighters like Artur Abraham.Actually,I usually have the feeling that -as you put it-"real" German fighters have the least support of fighters who appear on a given fight card in Germany.
I can still-vividly-remember those bunch of cunts behind me who were shouting insults to Michel Trabant in his fight against Rivera.The American had knocked Trabant down.Nevertheless Trabant came back trying his best to turn the tables,and those cunts-by the way Germans-were constantly shouting insults towards their compatriot.I for my part really admired Trabant for his game but vain try to make Rivera pay for that knockdown.
I almost started a fight with those bums.
Of course I always support fighters from home country,but I also root for my favourite fighters irrespective of their origin.
As for Hoffman I have seen of his fights live,but I have never seen much support for him in a fight arena.
I wouldnt argue the toss with you about it,but I dont think that anybody has ever overrated Timo Hoffman -neither in Germany nor in any other country.
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